Re: Ubuntu Server seeded package review

2013-12-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 04:33:26PM +, James Page wrote:
 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.trusty/view/head:/cloud-image
 
 Description: Default cloud-image install
 
 tasksel (drops aptitude etc.)
[...]
 aptitude

I'd recommend keeping these on any d-i-based images, because otherwise
d-i is just going to install them dynamically and it'll slow everything
down.

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qreal change in Qt 5.2

2013-12-04 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
Hi,

qreal is a Qt typedef that used to be defined as float on ARM and
double on all other platforms.

However, since Qt 5.2 release candidate 1, qreal is double everywhere
(in Debian we are considering to keep it double on armel, but that
isn’t relevant to Ubuntu). Please be prepared to update your packages
if they rely on the old behaviour.

We will probably need to do a transition (i.e. rebuild everything
that has armhf binaries), however the problem is that upstream did
not bump the SONAME of Qt libraries, so we are considering doing the
bump as a Debian/Ubuntu-specific change.

Feel free to express your opinion about (not) bumping the SONAME at
http://bugs.debian.org/731261 (that bug also contains links to
previous discussions on this subject).

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Re: qreal change in Qt 5.2

2013-12-04 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 4 December 2013 13:52, Dmitry Shachnev mity...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi,

 qreal is a Qt typedef that used to be defined as float on ARM and
 double on all other platforms.

 However, since Qt 5.2 release candidate 1, qreal is double everywhere
 (in Debian we are considering to keep it double on armel, but that
 isn’t relevant to Ubuntu). Please be prepared to update your packages
 if they rely on the old behaviour.

 We will probably need to do a transition (i.e. rebuild everything
 that has armhf binaries), however the problem is that upstream did
 not bump the SONAME of Qt libraries, so we are considering doing the
 bump as a Debian/Ubuntu-specific change.

 Feel free to express your opinion about (not) bumping the SONAME at
 http://bugs.debian.org/731261 (that bug also contains links to
 previous discussions on this subject).


This has been discussed at the last vUDS:

http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/21986/core-1311-qt5-versions-in-ubuntu/
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-qt5-versions-in-ubuntu

And it's agreed that we do want to take up the transition.

Regards,

Dmitrijs.

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Desktop Icon placement on xfce4

2013-12-04 Thread Lutz Andersohn

  
  
I was hoping somebody can answer a question for me: lately, whenever
I reboot, my desktop icons are bunched up on the left side of the
screen and not where I left them. I noticed in my
~/.config.xfce4/desktop folder are several icons.screen0* files with
resolutions that don't even exist:
icons.screen0-1258x890.rc
icons.screen0-1424x835.rc
icons.screen0-1904x1015.rc
icons.screen0-1904x1064.rc
icons.screen0-1920x1080.rc

The resolution I am using is 1920x1080. This file has the correct
icon locations and after clicking F5 everything appears fine. The
other files have the icon locations bunched on the left. My
questions are:
1) which .rc file is used when initially logging in after a reboot
and why?
2) why are there .rc files which indicate screen resolutions that do
not even exist (like 1904x1015) ?

BTW, I for now fixed the problem by copying the good .rc file under
all the other names but I'd still like to understand what is going
on

Thanks all


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Re: qreal change in Qt 5.2

2013-12-04 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 13:58:49 +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com 
wrote:
 This has been discussed at the last vUDS:

 http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/21986/core-1311-qt5-versions-in-ubuntu/
 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-qt5-versions-in-ubuntu

 And it's agreed that we do want to take up the transition.

My goal was to invite a broader set of people to that discussion (everybody who
followed vUDS already knows about that).

Also, IIRC, nothing was decided about the SONAME stuff (and I would really want
if we got synchronized with Debian on (not)doing the bump).

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Re: Ubuntu Server seeded package review

2013-12-04 Thread Timo Aaltonen
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03.12.2013 18:33, James Page kirjoitti:
 Hi Folks
 
 As part of tidying for the next LTS release, the Server Team are 
 proposing a review of server released seeded packages that are 
 currently in Ubuntu main (proposed changes tracked in [0] for
 now).
 
 Here's the initial review of seeds, and some proposed moves and
 drops we are considering:
 
 Description: Server ISO image
 
 likewise-open (largely unmaintained in distro - 
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LikewiseOpen)

please drop it, not necessary to have something like this on the
image, and sssd replaces it in multiple ways and will be in main soon..


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Re: Ubuntu Server seeded package review

2013-12-04 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Robie Basak robie.ba...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 04:33:26PM +, James Page wrote:
  Hi Folks
  Description: Default server install
 
  [...]
  wireless-tools
  wpasupplicant

 For bootstrapping reasons, it would be nice to keep these on the ISO
 even if not in the default install. Would there be any real cost to
 doing this? I presume they're in main due to desktop needs anyway?


Seems right to just have it on the CD and not installed by default. And
yes, it is also in main via desktop-common.

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Re: qreal change in Qt 5.2

2013-12-04 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2013/12/4 Dmitry Shachnev mity...@ubuntu.com:
 Also, IIRC, nothing was decided about the SONAME stuff (and I would really 
 want
 if we got synchronized with Debian on (not)doing the bump).

I'd go for not bumping SONAME and doing all rebuilds at once. Debian
should lead the way, and since they seem to do either this or not
switch from float on arm, this seems a lot better option for the
future. According to the bug report Fedora already switched without a
bump.

-Timo

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