Re: fsck on boot is major usability issue
I've spent a lot of time looking for the reasoning behind still doing the checks, all I've found is anecdotal evidence, some people say they have first hand experience of errors creeping in, which were then fixed by fsck. On the other hand some people, although a small number, have turned them off with no apparent trouble. I would very much like to hear from somebody on the ext3 team about this. I'm not against simply disabling the checks on principle, but I would want to be confident that it wasn't going to cause problems. On Dec 21, 2007 9:31 AM, Phillip Susi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Musther wrote: Hi, I'm new to this list, I joined it because I saw in the archive that recently you were discussing the problem with running fsck on boot as a 'just in case' filesystem check. I joined the list because I'm the author of AutoFsck, the script you discussed which effectively moves fsck to shutdown, and asks the user before it is run. I still say we should just disable the checks entirely. No other filesystem still does this nonsense. It's just a holdover from ext2, which had it as a leftover from ext, which had it out of convention from minix, which did it as purely pedantic ( or did it actually perform some maintenance then that needed done periodically? I can't remember ). On the other hand, your solution looks like a great improvement. -- Slingshot - a unique game everyone enjoys - and it's free :-) http://www.slingshot-game.org -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows
What card are you using? I was just wondering if anybody else is having troubles with nvidia cards and two monitors? On Dec 16, 2007 6:58 PM, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there. I meant to write this email to Ubuntu-Desktop ML, but since you brought this topic, I'll reply here. Last Saturday, I did a small presentation on apt-cacher, and using Ubuntu Hardy, without any xorg.conf due to the new X 7.3 and xrandr 1.2, and plug-in for the first time a projector (@ 1024x768 vs 1280x800 12.1 LCD) with hardy on my 855 Intel, it was a great surprise that (almost) everything Just Worked. After GDM started, I could see both screens. Sure, some parts of it were cut-off 'cause of the 10241280. After login, i just clicked on Grandr v0.2 applet and changed the resolution to 1024. For some freak setting, my LCD got turned off, and I was left with only the projector. I opened up a console, and typed xrandr --auto. My LCD turned on, the top and bottom bars were set to 1024 px, but I still could see and use an extra screen space at the right of the screen. Bottom line, at least on Hardy, most of it worked great, and even better then using displayconfig-gtk (which requires X restart) or grandr UI ( that seems to not work that great on current xrandr and crashs a bit). Didnt had the time to test using xrandr --left-of output/--right-of output (to have a dual-monitor system, instead of clone screen system) or --size (to fix my LCD strange look), but I guess I'll give it a go with an external CRT/LCD this week. Sure, I agree with you, that the OS/X should (automatically) detect the the VGA is no longer in use, instead of requiring the [power]user to punch xrandr --auto, but I can live with it on an Alpha/Developement OS. My magor peeve with my transaction from windows still remains the lack of S-Video / TV Out support on pre-9xx Intel GPUs. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://Ubuntu.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: fsck on boot is major usability issue
On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 09:44 +1300, Jonathan Musther wrote: I would very much like to hear from somebody on the ext3 team about this. When ext3 was new, I am pretty certain that I have read quotes by Theodore T'so that he does not recommend turning off the checks. It's been a long time though, and searching now turns up nothing definitive for me. I find the long-standing insecurity abut this topic very weird, though. If an important ext3-using distro like Ubuntu asked the ext3 team, wouldn't they get an answer quickly? I would think so. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
RE: regular fsck runs are too disturbing
A little while ago there was a discussion here about fsck running at boot, and the program AutoFsck. The author of AutoFsck just contacted me and asked me what his next step should be. I don't have any official standing in the Ubuntu dev community, so I'm just going to forward his message out here in the hopes that it will get opened up for a more comprehensive discussion. Evan PS I also sent him a link to join this list, so hopefully he'll be able to contribute to the discussion. I too was contacted by a Jonathon Musther. But the email I received was different. It reads... Hi Chris Jones I wouldn\'t normally use this mailing list for anything other than announcements about new versions of AutoFsck. But I have been inundated with people requesting information on how to promote AutoFsck, and get it (or something with the functionality) into the Ubuntu distribution. I\'ve been trying to do this myself for a long time, but have not got very far. To this end I have set up a petition at the bottom of the page: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsck Please read it and consider adding your name. Also feel free to email me if you have any comments, suggestions etc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kind Regards Jonathan Musther I'm not quite sure why I received it either. I suspect it's just because I'm a member of the AutoFsck Mailing List. -- Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Easy Add/Remove Porgrams for non-sudoers with local PREFIX?
Like in many packages, you can say ./configure PREFIX=~/bin you'll install the package locally and don't need to be superuser. Are there any plans to integrate this functionality with synaptic/Add-Remove for non-sudoers, or am I missing something? br Carsten -- http://www.modspil.dk -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss