Re: Broken package with ppa of Empathy (Ubuntu)

2010-02-04 Thread Thomas Meire
Hi Laurent,

   I Think that the Empathy's package is broken in the ppa

The ppa isn't really broken, but some packaging stuff changed.

 snip

 LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 Calculating upgrade... Done
 The following packages have been kept back:
   empathy


 Is there any trick to do ?

Try sudo apt-get install empathy. Memory fades quickly, but i think
that fixed it for me when i upgraded from the ppa. It will remove the
packages libempathy and libempathy-gtk, but that's normal as upstream
dropped them.

Kind regards,
Thomas Meire

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Re: Removing Ubuntu releases, just Ubuntu (Aitor Pazos)

2010-02-04 Thread Brett Mahar

Nowadays Ubuntu has to support 4 releases at a time (8.04,8.10,9.04 and
9.10) and as result of that some issues aren't solved as quickly as it
could. Having a LTS (Desktop and Server) with periodical releases and a
Ubuntu for human beans ;) could be interesting.

Is it still necessary to even have releases every 6 months? How many more new 
features/changes need to be made to the OS? It seems pretty well developed 
as-is.

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Re: Removing Ubuntu releases, just Ubuntu (Aitor Pazos)

2010-02-04 Thread Ben Gamari
Excerpts from Brett Mahar's message of Thu Feb 04 20:00:19 -0500 2010:
 
 Is it still necessary to even have releases every 6 months? How many
 more new features/changes need to be made to the OS? It seems pretty
 well developed as-is.
 
You are kidding, right? It amazes me that someone would say such a
thing. I can tell you right now that the competition (Apple, and, yes,
even Microsoft) do not have this attitude. While Ubuntu in its current
form is a great distribution, it is by no means perfect and is certainly
nowhere near a point where we can start considering stagnation. With the
spread of constant internet connectivity, the potential for innovation
is endless. Moreover, user interfaces need to change to adapt to the new
form factors which are now hitting the market. Lastly, in many areas we
haven't yet even caught up with our competition. Have you tried using
OpenOffice recently?

Moreover, upstream packages continue to release new versions and this
will not change any time in the near future. Some of these changes are
small, whereas others are much larger. IMHO, it would be generally
irresponsible to release the latter category onto stable machines
without some sort of release structure indicating to users that things
will change, maybe drastically. Act accordingly.

In short, our work is nowhere close to done.

Cheers,

- Ben

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