Re: Icons in Place and System
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 coz DS wrote on 12/10/09 17:05: Hey all, I am running ubuntu 9.10 right now fresh install... I noticed no icons under System menu and a few missing from Places menu in Gnome. There are fewer icons in menus generally. Places and System are just two examples. Shouldn't this be an all or nothing approach? I'm not attached to the icons myself but it does look a bit inconsistent in these menus to have some items without icons and other items (or submenu items) with icons. It makes it look, at least to me, as if the icons are missing by accident. Maybe it is worth discussing with upstream whether there is widespread agreement on the right approach, and following that. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Why Ubuntu is not ready for prime time
Hi Mat, On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Mat Tomaszewskimat.tomaszew...@canonical.com wrote: I'm currently reviewing the download process on Ubuntu.com and been looking into various help and support options that the user is presented with. The non-paid choices basically are: - Ubuntu documentation (help.ubuntu.com) – very information-rich resource but very beginner-unfriendly (lots of technical jargon) help.ubuntu.com (which reproduces the desktop help system) is intended to be helpful to beginners as well as more technical users. Primarily, it should be useful to beginners. If it's not, then that is something to explore with the documentation team and something we'll be keen on fixing. If you've got any specific feedback, then I suggest that you open a discussion on the ubuntu-doc mailing list so that we can develop that and look into making some improvements. Obviously individual items can be reported as bugs on the ubuntu-docs package. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)
Christopher, On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: You're nuts. ... What on earth is wrong with you people? ... Geez. Your interventions on this thread have been unnecessarily aggressive and, at times, personal. Please have a read of the Ubuntu Code of Conduct and try and avoid aggressive, sarcastic, or personal responses. You'll find that people will respect your opinion more, as well. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: bug #114521: No help or documentation available for Ubuntu installer
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Stewart Johnston s...@stooj.co.uk wrote: Bug #11452 ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/11452 ) is a release-specific bug for warty, so I wouldn't imagine it to be worth your while. Perhaps you meant a different bug? Paste a link into the email for lazy people like me :) It's in the subject line... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/114521 See also this spec: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/karmic-installation-guide Anyone interested in contributing should feel free to followup on the ubuntu-doc mailing list. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Use of apt-url in the documentation wiki
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: 2009/1/7 Richard Tattersall tatter_s...@msn.com: Perhaps this suggests a problem with how ubuntu is documented for new users? It is. Maybe we should go through the wiki doing a global replace of apt-get install with click apt:// :) (note for the humour impaired, this is not a serious suggestion, but you get the idea). This is a discussion which should continue on the ubuntu-doc list, but for the record: apt urls don't currently work on the documentation wiki. The question of whether to use them has been discussed by the documentation team, and a request has been made to the sysadmins back in September last year (ticket 3005 for those interested) to enable apt urls on the server that runs the wiki. As for the non-wiki part of the help website, we're hoping to introduce apt-url links in those documents during this release cycle. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Apport in stable releases [was: Re: Do you really want developers to be on this list]
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:25 AM, Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard people discuss post-release regressions due to SRU/security updates. I was chatting with another developer last night who said he'd found Hardy very stable at release and less so as it got updated. Perhaps Apport could be taught to roll the dice and return crash reports in some fraction of cases post-release (perhaps 5 or 10 percent). This would help us catch regressions. Would enabling it in -proposed help with that? -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Do you really want developers to be on this list was (Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions)
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Martin Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This list was created to give users a way to discuss Ubuntu development with developers. Comments like I was just joking about you having to know anything make the decision to unsubscribe easy. I'm seriously considering it myself. It should remain, developers should remain. I agree. If developers are unsubscribing from one of the two main development mailing lists, we have a serious communication problem in the community that needs to be addressed. When the distinction between -devel and -devel-discuss was set up, it relied on developers to take responsibility for following both lists. In the description of -devel-discuss, you see the phrase Point of contact for Ubuntu users to reach Ubuntu developers. For this list to be successful, developers need to be reading it, or it's not worth having the list in the first place. So on one side I think that list moderators or peers should be very prompt in telling the wrong sorts of emails where to go, perhaps with a standard template which explains the rules and a little checkbox by the offence. That seems a good idea also. Unsubscribing from a mailing list is not the correct response to rudeness, it should be perfectly simple to correct it simply by pointing out some ground rules. That's why we have the code of conduct. If individuals who regularly read the list are interested in taking on the role of doing a little gentle moderating, then I'm pretty sure that it would be successful. From what I read on this list, I don't actually think that much intervention would be required. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ma, 2008-11-03 kello 08:17 +0100, Mario Vukelic kirjoitti: On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 11:31 +0530, shirish wrote: had to rename it to cruft-remover-gtk due to trademark related names. Non-technical users have absolutely no idea what cruft means. Wikipedia correctly says, Cruft is computing jargon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruft Hmmm. That is, unfortunately, a very good point. Not sure what would be the best way to deal with that. It's to remove the word. The whole application needs a thorough review. To be honest, it's pretty surprising that it was included by default in Intrepid, considering the high quality of presentation of the rest of the desktop. For me, it has the feeling of an application that was rushed in without much attention to detail. Aside from the unfortunate name (it would work for a geeky superhero, but not an application on a professional desktop), here are some other issues: 1. The menu entry has no icon and the menu entry tooltip is long and unwieldy. 2. The application window contains an explanation of what the program is. It says This application helps you get rid of cruft. Considering that the program is called Cruft Remover, that doesn't really take things very far! 3. It's unclear from the application window what is actually going to happen to the things which are ticked in the window if you click Apply. A user won't know whether to tick, or to untick a box in order to uninstall a particular package. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:15 AM, James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 10:06 +, Matthew East wrote: This is the second time I've been bitten by a problem like this... it seems that people tracking intrepid frequently end up with a desktop that is different to that which is finally released. No doubt this policy has been considered and there is a reason for it, but it sure is confusing! Perhaps we need some sort of tool installed by default that removes packages that are no longer needed, and may be considered cruft :-) If there is genuinely no way of keeping the system clean without some user intervention, then certainly there is a use for such a program. It's a little dangerous I guess because there if such a program exists, then it might be difficult to reserve its use strictly for situations where it is impossible for the developers to effect the cleanup in the upgrade process. But this thread so far has been about the design of the application, rather than whether its existence is justified or not. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Chris Coulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/11/3 Matthew East [EMAIL PROTECTED] The whole application needs a thorough review. To be honest, it's pretty surprising that it was included by default in Intrepid, considering the high quality of presentation of the rest of the desktop. For me, it has the feeling of an application that was rushed in without much attention to detail. Matthew, It is not included in Intrepid by default. It was dropped from the dependencies of ubuntu-desktop before release. Thanks for letting me know. This is the second time I've been bitten by a problem like this... it seems that people tracking intrepid frequently end up with a desktop that is different to that which is finally released. No doubt this policy has been considered and there is a reason for it, but it sure is confusing! -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Preparing for Ubuntu Open Week
Hi Jorge,
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Jorge O. Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right now we've penciled off Monday 3 November to 7 November as Open
Week for this cycle.
{snip}
Basically, if you're doing something cool that you'd like to run a
session on, put your name down on the list.
I had added Documentation to the list for this, but it wasn't
included in the final schedule. Obviously, I appreciate that it's not
possible to include every subject that you get recommendations on, but
the Ubuntu Documentation Project has been rather neglected in recent
Open Weeks: since appearing in the first two Open Weeks, it hasn't
appeared since then, and documentation is quite an important area of
the community because it's a substantial part of the user experience,
the project needs more contributions, and it is a great place for
people who don't code to get involved.
Perhaps documentation can be considered for a future Open Week?
One other small comment on the schedule: it's not totally clear
whether the aim of Open Week is about attracting new contributors
(which is what I had understood it to be about), because a few of the
sessions appear to about how to use particular features on Ubuntu,
which is something which will appeal to users, rather than
contributors. Those sessions look a bit like walkthrough sessions, or
live tutorials. I'm not saying that one type of session is more
valuable than the other, but perhaps it is worth making a clear
distinction because that way you are more likely to get the right
demographic of people attending each type of session. If there are
sessions which will be showing off particular features of Ubuntu, they
could be publicised as support sessions, or even be used as concrete
marketing initiatives.
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Re: System-Administration cleanup
Hi, On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew East wrote on 23/10/08 14:37: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a design to combine the Preferences and Administration menus into something more wieldy. Isn't gnome-control-center the answer to this? ... The Control Center makes scanning the available settings easier, and avoids the increasingly-meaningless distinction between Preferences and Administration. Right: that's what I like best about it. At the very least, even if its decided to keep the utilities in the menu rather than using the control center, the same structure in terms of categories of applications could be kept: this would have the benefit of reusing thinking and work done upstream. But my personal preference would be to have the control center and fix any problems in it. In the end, I guess all this discussion and work should take place directly upstream anyway, ideally. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: System-Administration cleanup
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a design to combine the Preferences and Administration menus into something more wieldy. Isn't gnome-control-center the answer to this? Having tried OpenSUSE and noting a big improvement on Ubuntu in the way preference tools are presented, I raised the issue of its activation by default in Ubuntu a while back on the -desktop list, and there was a brief discussion about the fact that it seems to be rather slow to appear on some systems, but no serious discussion or justification offered for including the long unwieldy menus. Even if gnome-control-center has some bugs, I would have thought that working on those is more efficient and upstream friendly than redesigning the menu. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: System-Administration cleanup
Hi, On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Mackenzie Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 14:37 +0100, Matthew East wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a design to combine the Preferences and Administration menus into something more wieldy. Isn't gnome-control-center the answer to this? Having tried OpenSUSE and noting a big improvement on Ubuntu in the way preference tools are presented, I raised the issue of its activation by default in Ubuntu a while back on the -desktop list, and there was a brief discussion about the fact that it seems to be rather slow to appear on some systems, but no serious discussion or justification offered for including the long unwieldy menus. It's still overcrowded and doesn't address the fact that many of the items should really combine for clarity. Keyboard, keyboard shortcuts, OnBoard...those seem like they could all go together. Printing and Default Printer? Put them together. Preferred Applications and Removable Drives and Media should go together as well. Removable Drives and Media is really preferred applications for handling removable drives and media, so it doesn't really need to be separate. That is of course true, but it's a separate problem, not a problem with gnome-control-center. It exists both in the Ubuntu menu and in gnome-control-center. I'm fairly sure it's a known problem upstream and there is at least some gradual work to combine utilities (such as the Appearance utility). -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: 'developers' in preamble of CoC
Hi Mitsuya, On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Mitsuya Shibata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, What's mean of 'developers' in preamble of CoC [1] ? In third paragraph of the preamble: That collaboration depends on good relationships between developers. I think that its 'developer' means community member, and it contains normal user. If so, it should be replaced by 'members'. [1] http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct We've created a project on Launchpad so that you can file bugs on the Code of Conduct. Please go ahead and report the issue here, or if you like I can do it: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-codeofconduct -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Usage of apturl in the documentation
Hi Michael, We're currently considering whether to use apturl in installation instructions on the Ubuntu documentation wiki at https://help.ubuntu.com/community, and potentially also in the onboard documentation provided with yelp (Ubuntu/Xubuntu) or khelpcenter (Kubuntu). Can you confirm that there are no security related reasons for not doing so? Are there any other disadvantages that you can see with converting our instructions to use apturl. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: libpam-modules patch pam_group for NSS groups
Hi Edward, On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 4:41 AM, Edward Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've written a patch to allow the use of NSS groups in pam_group. Is this a good place to submit it? The patch is for 8.04/hardy 0.99.7.1-5ubuntu6.1 package. Patches will tend to get lost in a mailing list archive - you should probably file a but to describe the problem which the patch fixes, and attach your patch. That should lead to it getting some attention. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: feedback on new wiki theme
Thank you everyone for your comments so far. I've already made changes to my branch which address some of the comments. I can't reply individually to each suggestion but I'm considering them all. Please keep them coming! -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: feedback on new wiki theme
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not see anything as having changed. Could you post a few static pages, both with the new and old themes? There are some screenshots here - http://doc.ubuntu.com/~mdke/wikitheme/ Note that the testing theme is available on the *help* wiki, at https://help.ubuntu.com/community and not the development wiki yet. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: feedback on new wiki theme
Hi Jordan! On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Jordan Mantha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a very nice theme and looks more professional and usable to me. My only complaint is that it's rather narrow on all my computers (widescreen laptop and LCD displays). It looks like we're losing an awful lot of screen real estate. Is it possible to make it a fluid rather than fixed width theme? http://www.ubuntu.com has the same issue. I did think about this, but one of the points of the theme was to be consistent with the ubuntu.com website. As a result I'm pretty reluctant to depart from that unless the ubuntu.com website design changes. That's probably a discussion we could have separately on the ubuntu-website list (which I'm adding back into cc). -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: us.archive.ubuntu.com
Hi, On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Richard A. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 08 May 2008, Joe Terranova wrote: | Are there problems with us.archive.ubuntu.com , or does it seriously | need an upgrade? | Every new version, it's unusable for weeks -- as of today, it's still | unusable. I'm tired of having to change my sources.list to a different | country every time there's a new version. I get that with us.archive, ca.archive, or just archive right now. I believe us.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com use the same group of servers. ca.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be different though. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Unneeded System Tools menu
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:20 AM, Jan Claeys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op maandag 31-03-2008 om 09:05 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef George Farris: The best example lately is and I suppose it was a technical reason and so maybe not avoidable because of gvfs is: moving the Removable drives and Media from the preferences. That was really a horrible move. There aren't even drives in the menu any more and yet it still says Drives. +1 Do you have a bug report # for that? I filed an upstream one at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524195. No reply yet though. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Unneeded System Tools menu
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Milan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Hardy, all applications that don't really manage system-wide or user settings were moved from System-Preferences and -Administration to Applications-System Tools. This is a good idea as a general rule since previously both configuration menus were bloated by numerous tools. But in the default install, adding a System Tools menu in Applications in not user-friendly. The two only tools that appear there are hwtest-gtk and gnome-system-monitor: these are not likely to be used by the base user; furthermore, their use is very different from that of most applications, i.e. editing documents, and so on. So I suggest we choose either to put g-s-m and back to System-Administration, or we hide its icon, adding elsewhere a way to start it (a keyboard shortcut?), and the sme for hwtest-gtk. We may consider short-term and long-term solutions to this, because the current situation is IMHO not very good. This was already raised in this bug (with one duplicate): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-monitor/+bug/205190 I agree that the current solution is badly presented. The problem for me is that we already have a System menu, so it's inelegant in the extreme to show the user a System Tools menu under the Applications menu. A better solution in my opinion would be to move the Applications - System Tools submenu to a System - Tools submenu. Copying this email to -desktop. Matt -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Reminders: 1. UI freeze == string freeze, notifications needed for translators. 2. please remember i18n.
Hi, On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Timo Jyrinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at the very least notifications about changed/new strings are needed to be sent to ubuntu-translators mailing list. Just a reminder that this also applies to documentation - any changes which affect the documentation should be notified to the ubuntu-doc mailing list. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess Thanks -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing
On 10/10/2007, Christof Krüger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I strongly agree that the user should be given the option to abort the scan. Me too. This whole fsck business is a really ugly hole in the Ubuntu experience; first the fact that it can't be aborted, and secondly the fact that it isn't integrated with a splash screen. I understand that there are technical issues behind this which I don't have the knowledge to address properly, but the target must absolutely be to solve this problem, rather than make excuses from it. Has someone created a specification about the issue? -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Automatix Team-Ubuntu Developer Collaboration
Hi, On 08/10/2007, Jared B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many people have been asking us, members of the Automatix Team, for a long time to collaborate with the Ubuntu Developers. We have decided that things need to change. So starting with the Hardy development cycle, we hope to start working with the Ubuntu Developers to improve both Ubuntu and Automatix. I think this displays a positive attitude. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Automatix/Ubuntu_Team_Collaboration The specification basically seems to be very similar to an existing one - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/common-customizations (which also includes an analysis of automatix and other scripts). That specification is marked as Implemented for the feisty release. As you probably know Ubuntu now includes a number of easier ways to install commonly requested programs. However, not all of the items discussed in the spec appear to be implemented. An example is the one you give in your spec, DVD playback. It's very important for you to identify specific programs which are still not well supported by Ubuntu, so that these can be considered in the same way as the common-customizations spec was done. Good luck! -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
seeding ubuntu-serverguide
Hi there, We recently included a package ubuntu-serverguide which contains an html version of the server guide developed by the documentation team. We'd like for it to be included automatically on the Server Edition. I discussed it with Fabio once and he recommended that I ask for it to be seeded. Can someone take care of that please? Also, if any server minded people would like to review it and file some bugs or suggestions, please do so immediately - string freeze is now about a week away!! Matt -- http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Technical Board decisions
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 08:21 +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: Hi, Matt Zimmerman [2007-02-28 14:27 -0800]: I believe Martin Pitt (CCed) is working on the driver bits, and can advise if there's any necessary documentation. The intention was that enabling desktop effects would automatically enable the driver if necessary, while informing the user of the relevant issues. I got a 'restricted manager' tarball from Scott yesterday night, but I didn't have time yet to look at it. I will do so by the end of the week. That's exactly what I wanted to know, thanks both. I will poke Martin soonish to find out how it works. Matt -- http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
