Re: Solang or Shotwell vs. F-Spot for Lucid
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com wrote: Did anybody looked at how those other software handle exporting to flick, picasa or other web services? For Shotwell uploading to Flickr and Facebook is planned for 0.4 which is to be released in December. Picasa is planned for a later version. Btw. an important feature missing from all available programs is uploading to online print services. A list of all planned features is here: http://trac.yorba.org/report/16 An (incomplete) comparison of photo managers is on their wiki: http://trac.yorba.org/wiki/ShotwellFeatureComparison Solang also has exporting to webservices on the todo list, but they also have more extensive plans: acting as a front-end to them, as a photo manager for both your photos on the desktop and in the cloud. Cheers, Wouter -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Keyboard layout change visual feedback. Thoughts?
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Dylan McCall dylanmcc...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a cute little bug (and patch) I filed upstream... Is it on the right track? Suggestions, etc. would be great :) It looks good, but I think it should also say how you can change it back, because if you accidentily hit those keycombination you still don't have a clue how to get back to the previous situation. Cheers, Wouter -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Data loss with trash in intrepid?
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Vincenzo Ciancia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must have pressed DEL by mistake on my keyboard with the desktop focused, and deleted the directory. Such a thing should not be possible to happen unnoticed. See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/95853 Cheers, Wouter -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: F-spot 0.5.0.1 for Intrepid?
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The current version of F-spot in Intrepid was released back in May. A new version was released in the middle of September. Is there any hope of seeing this in Intrepid? Should I bother filing a freeze exception request for it? There is already an open bug report about that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/f-spot/+bug/271895 Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Landscape-common installed by default in intrepid?
Hello, I was wondering why landscape-common is recommended by ubuntu-desktop in intrepid? It seems only useful to Canonical clients and even then I guess they also need to install the landscape-client package? It seems to include one useful command, landscape-sysinfo, but 918kb seems a lot for the limited info it provides, none of which isn't also provided by other utilities included in Ubuntu. Thanks, Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Bugs for NM 0.7
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Jordan Mantha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Peteris Krisjanis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, a slight offtopic from this message, but does it mean that there will be no network-admin from g-s-t in Ibex? Would be very sad if that happened. It won't be installed by default. However, it is still in the archive in the gnome-network-admin package. NM 0.7 seems to have gotten to the place where it has basically all the same features so having 2 tools to do the same thing becomes an issue. I was really against removing the g-s-t network admin tool, but after using and testing NM 0.7 in Intrepid for a while I think it'll be a good move for users. -Jordan Please replace this with something to configure the networkmanager system wide configuration. Networkmanager has had this ability for a while, and both fedora and opensuse support, but as far as I know Ubuntu doesn't. Wouter -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Bugs marked incomplete
Hello, Bugs that are marked incomplete and subsequently get a reply from the original reporter often stay in the incomplete status. This means they automatically get closed even though the needed info was provided. I think it would be a good idea to automatically change the status to new once a new comment is made on an incomplete bug. Wouter -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Bugs marked incomplete
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Bryce Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, afaik automatic-expiration is not enabled for Ubuntu. It tracks when bugs will expire but doesn't close them without human action. Ok, so what does expiring mean then? So... I think this isn't a problem. If you could show a (recent) example where something in Ubuntu got expired this way, that'd be worth knowing about. No I don't :-) (although if I remember right it did happen to some of my bugs a while ago) I guess I misunderstood the expiring concept. Thanks for explaining. Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu boot speed fall in Hardy
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Sam Tygier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Intrepid seems to me like a good time to include the prefetching work that was done in 2007 summer of code. and maybe preload as well (more for application load time than boot time), if the two can work together. Quoting one of the last comments from the brainstorm idea: Hello everyone. I am the author of Google Summer of Code 2007 prefetching for Ubuntu. I did not get any feedback on prefetch project mailing list (or any other way), so I thought it is not used, and did not have motivation to further work on it. And then I have come across this site :) I will soon be working on adapting my prefetching solution to K/Ubuntu 8.10, so I need as much information about performance, problems, regressions, etc. as possible. Please send comments about prefetching to mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] (no subscription necessary, just send e-mail) or report bugs on Launchpad project (https://launchpad.net/prefetch/). TIA Krzysztof Lichota -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: hardy release freeze, coming soon to an archive near you
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 5:32 AM, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The list of release-critical bugs is tracked here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-8.04 Additional bugs that are considered targets of opportunity for the release are found at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+bugs If there are other bugs that you believe are important to fix before the release which are not yet listed on the above pages, please get in touch with me or another member of the release team. Hello Steve, I think the following bug needs to be considered release-critical: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apturl/+bug/203538 This is about apturl, a really cool feature that was added just one or two releases ago, does not work at all in firefox 3 in hardy. It would be a shame to leave a feature that was recently successfully introduced completely broken. Additionally websites which provide apt: links would have to tell people to look which version of ubuntu they are running to see if they are able to use the links. I hope this can be added to the list. Cheers, Wouter -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [Policykit] No possibilty to unlock the save option in Gedit while trying to modify xorg.conf
Gedit should notice you when you open a file with it that you can't write to. Preferably in a nonintrusive way, like those yellow bars that are shown for some other messages at top of the window. On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:14 PM, thibaut bethune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Policykit is there to avoid the user to get a dialog box that would say that can't be done without offering a workaround (if i'm not mistaken) well i've run Nautilus, and i've opened in Gedit etc/X11/xorg.conf i've made some changes in it and pressed the save button (which was active) and i've gotten an error message I think that : either the save button should not be active (at less) either the user should have the possibilty to give the password to be able to save the file (that would be perfect to me) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Automatically sync new packages until feature freeze
Hello, Currently the automatic import of new packages from debian stops at the debianimportfreeze, which is very early in the release schedule. After that, sync requests have to be filed and acknowledged, which is a lot of unneccessary work I think and causes packages for which no requests are filed not to be in ubuntu, while they could have been. Would it be possible to automatically sync new packages in debian unstable until featurefreeze (or even later)? Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Automatically sync new packages until feature freeze
On Jan 19, 2008 9:13 PM, Wouter Stomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently the automatic import of new packages from debian stops at the debianimportfreeze, A small clarification: by new I mean new as in not previously in the archives, not newer versions. Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Proposal: include Brasero by default
On Jan 15, 2008 12:33 AM, Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would not consider features like inhibiting Gnome Power Manager from suspending while burning niche, that is something that should just work. That's rather a small bug and likely easy to fix, the software just need to send a signal over dbus No matter how easy it is to fix, that is irrelevant when it isn't done. There has been an open bug report on that for 18 months. Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Proposal: include Brasero by default
On Jan 15, 2008 12:39 PM, Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And next time you find a bug in brasero not fixed yet you will advice switching to yet another software? No of course not. This is only one of the many issues mentioned earlier. Have you read my first email? Besides that, development of brasero is very active, with bugs like these getting fixed very fast. That's not really a constructive comment. Why? The bug has no duplicate, The amount of duplicates doesn't say anything. This bug is not likely to occur often, but when it happens, you have wasted a cd or dvd. This is just something basic that applications should get right. no comment since it has been opened Plenty of comments in the upstream bug report. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344949 Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: gThumb
On Jan 15, 2008 5:59 AM, Bryan Quigley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering what the reasoning was to get rid of gThumb in the default install (ubuntu desktop package). Is their an application that has been added to help people organize home movies that I missed? To reduce duplication. F-spot is included to organize your photos (not movies, but I don't think gthumb does that either?). Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Main inclusion for transmission, vinagre and cheese
Hello, After it was decided that ubuntu would ship transmission and vinagre in hardy, these were directly moved from universe to main. Cheese is also new in main. I couldn't find main inclusion reports for these packages. Even though it is already decided to go with these programs, shouldn't these programs go through the usual main inclusion process first? Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Proposal: include Brasero by default
On Jan 6, 2008 4:16 PM, Wouter Stomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I would like to propose including Brasero in the default Ubuntu installation. For anyone interested: the desktop team has decided to include brasero, replacing serpentine, in the default installation. N-c-b will still be shipped. Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Proposal: include Brasero by default
On Jan 14, 2008 7:07 PM, Joel Bryan Juliano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If burning files is much concerned, using Nautilus CD Burner is the easiest way for both advanced and new users. Brasero is just as easy, did you try it (especially the latest version, 0.7)? Anyway, n-c-b is still included for now. To clear up some preconceptions, Nautilus: 1. does asks the user to blank non-empty CD-RW DVD-RW's upon writing. Yes, but it cannot blank cd's withouth writing to them. 2. burns CUE files via right-clicking it and choosing Write to Disk. Yes, as I wrote in my first email, serpentine does not support cue files, n-c-b does. I think any other features is a niche, and/or can be done manually. I would not consider features like inhibiting Gnome Power Manager from suspending while burning niche, that is something that should just work. Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Proposal: include Brasero by default
On Jan 6, 2008 4:16 PM, Wouter Stomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I would like to propose including Brasero in the default Ubuntu installation. Who takes the final decision on things like this? Or should this be posted elsewhere? Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Proposal: include Brasero by default
On Jan 7, 2008 5:50 PM, Mario Vukelic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAICT from the Brasero GUI, it does not create Video DVDs that any standalone-player can play, just data DVDs (DeVeDe or similar is needed for Video DVDs) No, but it is on the developers todo list: http://live.gnome.org/Brasero -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Proposal: include Brasero by default
Hello all, I would like to propose including Brasero in the default Ubuntu installation. Brasero is an application to burn CD/DVD's for the Gnome Desktop. It is designed to be as simple as possible and has some unique features to enable users to create their discs easily and quickly. Brasero is actively being developed and is maintained in Ubuntu by one of its developers, Luis Medinas. Currently Ubuntu relies on nautilus-cd-burner and serpentine for cd/dvd burning. Both are nice and simple programs, but both N-c-b and serpentine have several limitations that Brasero does not have which are listed below: Nautilus cd burner: - Lack of multisession support! - Does not inhibit Gnome Power Manager from suspending while burning - Doesn't do on the fly burning (dvd to dvd or disk to dvd), severly limiting burning possibilities when low on disk space (a situation in which you might want to move files to cd/dvd) - Does not show the amount of space left - Does not show the progress while burning - Has no option to verify burned cd - Can't copy/write video DVDs - Has no option to erase cdrw's withouth burning new content to them Serpentine: - Doesn't do on the fly writing (mp3/ogg to wav conversion) - Doesn't detect the size of the inserted disc - Has several open bugs on program crashes, both on launchpad and in gnome bugzilla - Lacks audio track preview - Doesn't support cue files Additionally, Brasero has features such as automatic filtering for unwanted files, beagle file search (tracker support planned) and saving/loading of projects, allowing them to be burned later. It would be good to provide users one common interface to burn cd's. Brasero is already in the main repository and installed and tested by many users, so it should not be a problem to include it on the cd. Of the other distro's, opensuse already ships it. Therefore, I would like to propose including it by default in Hardy. Cheers, Wouter -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Bug(s) that should be fixed for release
On 10/4/07, Brian Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bugs that have a milestone for the development release can be found at: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-7.10-rc Is it possible to nominate bugs for that list somehow? Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Graphical installer for the alternate CD?
On 9/26/07, Michael R. Head [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 05:13 +0800, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: On 9/24/07, Tormod Volden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here, I think there's a need for a console-based Ubiquity installer, and a need for it to be accessible on the isolinux boot prompt I wonder if it's worth trying to spec this out as a launchpad blueprint? -- There is one here: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubiquity-sans-live-session -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Apturl (security) issues and inclusion in Gutsy
On 9/18/07, Alexander Sack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 10:33:15PM +0200, Wouter Stomp wrote: 1. It's possible to run arbitrary scripts in the preinst/postrm phase of dpkg installation or the installed program itself could be malicious. By allowing the repository to be specified the deb can come from anywhere. So, you've basically got just a yes/no dialog stopping arbitrary code execution. (Not far from UAC and ActiveX in windows.) This is a feature of deb packages in general. ATM, you can provide .deb links that will run gdebi by default. The difference of apturl is that it allows you to ship dependencies of your provided packages as well. When clicking on a .deb link, the user is given the choice between downloading the file or opening it with an application of the user's choice. Gdebi is only opened when the user chooses to do so. 2. Repositories added through apturl could provide packages included in Ubuntu but with higher version numbers with malicious code. ... this is a feature, not an issue. This is not a feature, it is very dangerous. 3. there should be a VERY OBVIOUS visual indication of whether the program is going to be installed from the official repos or some third party site (right now it is not) If this is not obvious enough, we should take a look. ATM you get at least a warning because the 3rd party repository is not signed with a trusted key. But once you have added the 3rd party repository, it can replace any package without warning. 4. It is not well maintained. In the two months that it has been in the archives, 20 bugs have been reported, none have been fixed. Only one had a response and that is a bug about a spelling mistake in the package description. (all together it seems to have been uploaded only to enable the plugin wizard in firefox to work, after whcich it hasn't had any more attention) Are there any serious bugs filed? I think so yes, but it actually doesn't matter if they are serious or not. One of the requirements for inclusion in main (let alone to be shipped on the cd) is that upstream supports and cares for the package. Well here clearly no one seems to care for the package. 5. It hasn't had a lot of testing. It wasn't mentioned in any of the tribe release notes. There hasn't been a post in the dev-link forum or on the mailing lists. So not many people know about it or have tested it. The ffox plugin finder wizard was announced with tribe-5. I agree though, that we should call for more widespread testing/comments, especially how we can raise awareness about the security implications of 3rd party packages. apturl itself wasn't announced anywhere 6. It functions for firefox only, even though solutions to enable it for konqueror and opera have been provided in bug report. This makes it impossible for a website to provide an install this link for an Ubuntu package. They have to mention that it only works if you are running firefox, not if you are a kubuntu user running konqueror for example. I don't think that this is a valid argument. As you say, there are solutions for other browsers available. The fact that they haven't been integrated yet is not an issue of apturl. But they should be integrated before shipping apturl by default, otherwise it will reflect badly on ubuntu when a link works on ubuntu but not on kubuntu or xubuntu for example because they use a different browser. 7. There is currently no way for a website to know whether apt urls will work on the users operating system. If a website provides an apt install link it will be broken for feisty and earlier ubuntu versions or other linux distributions, How is this different from providing links to .deb packages? Users unaware about architectures et al are not really capable to understand comments next to the link either. If they are, you can do the same for apturl links. The users don't need to be aware of architectures or anything. But there shouldn't be links to install programs on websites when they don't work. The links should be hidden/removed when they won't work anyway. 8. making people enter their sudo password in a popup you got from clicking on a link on an arbitary website is definitely not secure. I see the point of this. We should investigate how we can make the installer more spoof-proof. IIRC, it shades the application that started the installer atm, which is a good start and probably hard to spoof with just HTML mechanisms. Maybe we can add more prominent/graphical hints that its now the ubuntu install wizard processing your request? It should be made a lot harder. Currently it is very easy to spoof. You know that effect that some pages have when an image pops up and the website itself goes gray? Use that and add a popup asking for the users password and the majority of users won't notice the difference. 9. apturl in its current version
Re: python-cjson is on Debian but not on Ubuntu
On 9/17/07, Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It wasn't in Sid when the auto-sync was turned off. It'll be automatically sync'ed for Hardy. Scott K For Hardy, could there be made a distinction between autosyncing new versions and autosyncing new packages? Autosyncing new packages could continue to sync new packages long after the importfreeze until universe new packages freeze. Wouter -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Apturl (security) issues and inclusion in Gutsy
Hello, I would like to discuss the recent inclusion of apturl in the Gutsy default installation. The idea of apturl is great but the current implementation has a lot of issues, some of which I will list here: 1. It's possible to run arbitrary scripts in the preinst/postrm phase of dpkg installation or the installed program itself could be malicious. By allowing the repository to be specified the deb can come from anywhere. So, you've basically got just a yes/no dialog stopping arbitrary code execution. (Not far from UAC and ActiveX in windows.) 2. Repositories added through apturl could provide packages included in Ubuntu but with higher version numbers with malicious code. 3. there should be a VERY OBVIOUS visual indication of whether the program is going to be installed from the official repos or some third party site (right now it is not) 4. It is not well maintained. In the two months that it has been in the archives, 20 bugs have been reported, none have been fixed. Only one had a response and that is a bug about a spelling mistake in the package description. (all together it seems to have been uploaded only to enable the plugin wizard in firefox to work, after whcich it hasn't had any more attention) 5. It hasn't had a lot of testing. It wasn't mentioned in any of the tribe release notes. There hasn't been a post in the dev-link forum or on the mailing lists. So not many people know about it or have tested it. 6. It functions for firefox only, even though solutions to enable it for konqueror and opera have been provided in bug report. This makes it impossible for a website to provide an install this link for an Ubuntu package. They have to mention that it only works if you are running firefox, not if you are a kubuntu user running konqueror for example. 7. There is currently no way for a website to know whether apt urls will work on the users operating system. If a website provides an apt install link it will be broken for feisty and earlier ubuntu versions or other linux distributions, 8. making people enter their sudo password in a popup you got from clicking on a link on an arbitary website is definitely not secure. 9. apturl in its current version doesn't show the package description so people don't have a clue about what they are about to install other than the information provided on the website Conclusion: apturl is a great idea, but needs some work before it can be included and enabled by default on Ubuntu. In its current form it would do Gutsy more harm than good. With some work I think Gutsy could ship with it if for now it would only allow installation of packages from the official ubuntu repositories. Adding of third party repositories by clicking a weblink is something that at least needs some discussion and imho should not be done at all. Cheers, Wouter n.b. link to apturl bug list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apturl -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: update-db cron job: solving a long-standing issue
On 9/15/07, Milan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We can also think (and this is my opinion ;-) ) that the locate command is only used by advanced users that now how to install slocate in two minutes, and thus that we don't need to install it by default. Newbies don't use locate in a terminal, but Tracker in GNOME. And we should remember that users are likely to use new background processes with Tracker or Beagle, that may even be installed by default. So the less are running, the better the system will work. Replacements like find can be used when necessary (eg for occasional remote help), though they are less efficient. Wouldn't it be possible to replace locate with tracker somehow? Or let locate use the tracker database? Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Main Frozen for Tribe 5
On 8/21/07, Jonathan Riddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have frozen the archive for Tribe 5, scheduled for Thursday. Uploads will be held in the unapproved queue, if you have an upload for main which should be in the Tribe please let me know. Uploads to universe can be let through without review by asking me. Please continue fixing bugs and close any that have already been fixed. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone:Alist=472 Is it possible to nominate a bug for that list? Currently the open source ati driver is broken for many people, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/133192 Cheers, Wouter -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Announcement: One Click Installer
On 8/6/07, Greg K Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The apt protocol ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptFirefoxFileHandler ) will fix this. Can anyone tell if this will be implemented in time for Gutsy? Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Single CD for Server Desktop?
On 7/30/07, Kevin Fries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, what would be ideal in the corporate or business environments would be a very minimal install with all updates coming from a central repository (i.e. not from the CD). Something similar to the old Debian or RedHat FTP based install. A netboot cd image already exists: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ Wouter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
