Re: You devs rock. Thanks for your work.
It's a fresh relief to see positive comments once in a while :) Thanks for your kind words. On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 09:40:04AM -0700, Dane Mutters wrote: I'm writing in response to some recent emails on this list that may have had a discouraging effect on the developers and other community members. While Some constructive criticism is needed, I would like to remind people that the developers are essentially volunteers who put a LOT of hard work into making a really great Linux distribution. So, the essence of what I'd like to say is that the Ubuntu devs (and those who contribute in any to the Ubuntu distro) are awesome and deserve a lot of respect. You've done wonders for making this (IMHO) the best distribution out there. Thanks for your work. I look forward with great anticipation to installing Gusty on my box. --Dane -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Untrusted software and security click-through warnings
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 07:08:45PM +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: how about using a captcha-like mechanism to trigger this decisionmaking process? - Alexander In order to install this package, you need to demonstrate your ability to make sound decisions: (1) Please click the term of the following equation that represents the Maxwell Correction of Ampere's loop law: The [Divergence of the magnetic field] is equal to the [permittivity times the charge density] plus the [the partial time derivative of the electric field times a constant] (2) When Compiz by default was deferred from Feisty, did you cry? [Yes] [No] (3) How do you install VLC Media Player? [A] VLC Media Player permits playback of patent encumbered non-free audio formats and is a moral sin to even consider installing. [B] Double-click Automatix, choose Media Player and Editors, then check VLC Media Player and press the orange Start button. :) signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Untrusted software and security click-through warnings
More seriously, I don't think it's a good idea to force the user to intake a warning by locking out the UI until the user performs some magic unlock sequence dictated by the warning (such as a CAPTCHA). It is cumbersome and inconvenient to the user, and most like the user would just grumble and direct his attention at completing the test, not spending any time looking at the warning. The maximum level of warning I'd be comfortable with is for gdebi to show a bold red warning that the package is not signed by the official Ubuntu Archive key, like the one I suggested earlier. Any additional popup dialogs or user interaction would be nuisances. John On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 01:23:58PM -0400, jdong wrote: In order to install this package, you need to demonstrate your ability to make sound decisions: (1) Please click the term of the following equation that represents the Maxwell Correction of Ampere's loop law: The [Divergence of the magnetic field] is equal to the [permittivity times the charge density] plus the [the partial time derivative of the electric field times a constant] (2) When Compiz by default was deferred from Feisty, did you cry? [Yes] [No] (3) How do you install VLC Media Player? [A] VLC Media Player permits playback of patent encumbered non-free audio formats and is a moral sin to even consider installing. [B] Double-click Automatix, choose Media Player and Editors, then check VLC Media Player and press the orange Start button. :) signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: 4 More days...
I understand your frustration -- I too have reported bugs that have not seen a resolution. It's bound to happen, on a distribution where the users far outnumber the developers. There's a finite number of developers and they are doing the best that they can. You seem to be implying that all the developers are just sitting around, slacking off, and doing nothing, which is simply inaccurate. Also, having programming or computer science knowledge is not a requirement for helping out with the bug tracker scene. Why not try to triage some bugs? I'm sure you've been using Ubuntu long enough to have an understanding of what is a valid bug, and what is user error or a duplicate of some other bug. Performing these elementary triaging tasks frees up time that more programming-oriented developers would be spending doing this, not to mention it makes the entire bugtracker cleaner, thus developers can easily see bugs that are valid and can be fixed. If you have any other constructive solutions or suggestions, we'd be more than happy to hear them out. Otherwise, we are all just wasting time -- you writing these e-mails, us reading/replying to them. Time that can be better spent doing more productive things. Regards, John On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 06:50:46AM -0700, Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: It wasn't meant as flamebait. It was my foolish way of venting pent-up frustration (see my replies to others in this thread). -- Scott signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Restricted tab-completion is annoying
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 06:43:15PM -0700, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote: If I modify them, doesn't that mean they will get overwritten by the next update to the bash package? not if you modify them in your own .bashrc Yeah--but system-wide I want it off. On the hosting server I own, I have 4 other admins that would absolutely hate this. Well, then you should remove it from /etc/skel/.bashrc, and instruct existing users how to edit their .bashrc -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
