Dell, Microsoft, Novell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Did we (Ubuntu, Canonical) just join the Novell-Microsoft partnership indirectly? By accident? If Dell is going into that much-dreaded deal (according to this[1], it indeed is), and if Canonical is in partnership with Dell (through the sale of Ubuntu-installed Dell systems), I think we just partnered up with Microsoft in making their FUD of Linux is stealing from us much more credible. I am no developer, and maybe I am a little too fanatic to say that I wouldn't want to see Ubuntu on a Dell system if Dell is going to use Ubuntu to actually help Microsoft conquer the world :) But, were Dell's plans known to any of you (including, and most importantly those working for Canonical) prior the Dell-Canonical partnership? What might the implications of this be for the community? I knew that nothing is perfect, but this seems too fishy... Thanks. [1] http://lwn.net/Articles/233232/rss -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGP3eTLM1JzWwJYEYRApNUAJ9cJezhR+EMNG4wf+RsiJ1xxEmaAgCdH/94 T0e37fktmEvE5q9KtB4N8MQ= =lGay -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Release notes should warn against installing Ubuntu on old machines
Sitsofe Wheeler wrote: Ubuntu can have serious problem when installed on machines whose BIOSes cannot read files past the 1023rd cylinder. I'd like to +1 _at least_ putting a warning to the release notes... It's a known and common-enough issue to warn people against it... -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: More Ubuntu Wallpapers
I mentioned this before regarding bug # 77289 [1] but wikipedia and commons featured pics are nice places to look for background pics... [1] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-calendar/+bug/77289 Revive ubuntu-calendar thanks :) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
try scanmodem on feisty?
Hi, A request to devels as well as anyone with free time monitoring the list :) Can someone who is testing feisty on a machine with a winmodem test whether the scanmodem tool is working there and report their experience at the *bug report*? Bug report at https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 It's not hard at all. The following link provides information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/ScanModem Afaik, it cannot break anything in your system. All it does is to tell you what kind of winmodem you have... I cannot try bc I'm using a production machine with Dapper with which I cannot dare to experiment... and the cdimage server isn't working for me (no answer from server). PS. If you have free time, you could even try to make your winmodem dial somewhere in order to test the wiki documentation[1] (which needs to be offline) and experience what winmodem users experience with Ubuntu. You probably won't like the latter. Thanks a lot Sincerely. [1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto [Attached below is a message from Mr Matthew East] Original Message Subject: [Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:06:37 - From: Matthew East [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Bug 42454 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to do more about this bug, but as far as I can see we haven't had any information about the use of the scanmodem tool in Feisty, except that it probably doesn't work. Modems are clearly a very difficult area and we are going to need the developers' input before we can move any further, I think. -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
forgotten ubuntu-calendar
Hi, May be because it seems unimportant, or maybe because the artwork team is not happy that their efforts have been thrown away (I do *not* know, I'm speculating), this package is getting requests fro revival but no one is doing anything. If nothing ubuntu-specific will be done about the package, can you at least set it so it uploads featured pictures from commons (wikimedia)? Here is a bit of info on how to do it: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2007-February/000613.html Bug report for this: https://launchpad.net/bugs/77289 Previous discussion at ubuntu-art: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2007-January/003651.html Thanks :) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Allowing passwordless login via GDM
Anthony Yarusso wrote: Jan Claeys wrote: On do, 2007-02-22 at 15:54 +0100, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote: Should we do the same mistakes as in windows ? I think having a password is better cause we should teach people about security measures. and that gdm password thing's a pretty simple thing but means a lot. True, but I see at least one exception: young children don't know how to enter a username password. OTOH they don't need administrator (sudo) rights of course... I disagree. First, ime children seem to handle pretty much everything about using a computer better than their parents past about age ten. Prior to that, they shouldn't really be on unsupervised much anyway. Better to teach them good habits early on than to coddle and have to break those later. I agree. I don't think making passwordless login easy (let alone default...) isn't a good practice at all. If a user wants passwordless logins, s/he should work hard to find how to do it (just like I did). In the process, s/he will learn that passwords are a very important part of what Linux can do for you (just like I did)... Ubuntu, in the sense used by OP, is already usable for home users. We need better support for hardware and a few more GUI tools etc but it's usable as it is now... There should be a *limit* to how Windowsish Ubuntu can become. Getting rid of passwords is I think really too much... I think we should let people learn about passwords. They should go beyond their Windows-habit of doing everything without passwords... I think we are adapting too much and too quickly Gnome's motto of keep it simple stupid (sic)... As i said, there is a limit to this. Sincerely. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Timezone change in US
Hi, Please ignore if this was discussed before (though it seems not to be from the search results). I'm subscribed to Slackware security notices and they seem to have released an update to their system for the time zone changes in the US. I was wondering whether we received such an update ourselves. I do not remember updating any packages that mentioned time zone in the changelog... From their notice: --- New glibc-zoneinfo packages are available for Slackware 8.1, 9.0, 9.1, 10.0, 10.1, 10.2, and 11.0 to update the timezone information to account for the extention of Daylight Savings Time (DST) in the US. This is an important update as any machine in the US (in an area using DST) running Slackware 10.2 or earlier will otherwise have a system clock off by one hour for a month starting on March 11. It is strongly suggested to upgrade this package before March 11, 2007. --- Sorry to bother you, Thanks. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Bug descriptions and titles.
Robert Collins wrote: Just a plea that we update bug descriptions and titles to be relevant - it saves folk having to dig through the entire thread to get an idea of whats wrong. For instance: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/orbit2/+bug/67361 is a high priority crasher, and something like 5-6 bugs I filed have been marked as duplicates of that - but the description of the bug Gaim crashes after startup didn't help with understanding why my bugs where being closed as duplicates - theres no message when a bug is marked as duplication, and I dont even use gaim. I've fixed the description in this case, but its by no means isolated. -Rob Just another bit of insight: In that same bug, people seem to keep attaching crash reports, even though no more is needed. I believe that they are doing so not to add more info really but because they are not sure whether their crash is the same as the one described in the bug, so they expect some kind of confirmation: Yes, your crash report indicates that you're experiencing this bug or Your crash report is about something else, please report a new bug Just so you keep in mind :) Thanks PS. Forwarding to bugsquad so they can keep Robert Collins' plea in mind as well :) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Kqemu is GPL
Hervé Fache wrote: May I suggest we add the kqemu module to our Feisty kernel? I know it's late, but it would be a great thing to have... Hervé. I didn't know about kqemu being GPL'd. And having that module already in would be so great! I wonder whether we should report this as a bug or as a spec for better traceability quicker implementation... sorry for this off-topic: do you have any links to kqemu being GPL? I'd like to read the announcement and think about ditching vmware for good. thanks :) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: BadVista action BBC looking for Linux advocates in debate
I got the attached email from the BadVista campaign but I think the following link might serve nicely to promote Linux: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6288119.stm On the BBC web site in the technology section, the BBC is trying to find advocates for Windows, Mac OS and Linux to debate the merits of their chosen OS in light of the introduction of Vista. The comments on the page so far are mostly from Mac and Windows fans. It would be good if some of the more experienced guys from this forum, signed up to this to give a bit more balance to the debate.[1] thanks. [1] http://newsvac.newsforge.com/newsvac/07/01/23/1529232.shtml [[PS. Sorry, couldn't resist CC'ing to ubuntu-devel-discuss. Who would be better in discussing the merits of Linux than our devels :) ]] BadVista.org Campaign News wrote: Join BadVista.org in New York City for two actions to coincide with the Microsoft Vista launch on Monday, January 29th at 11am and 2pm. They will take place near Times Square and near Grand Central. Let us know that you can make it by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Include your name, email address, and phone number, so we can keep you up-to-date -- if you already have an FSF account (http://fsf.org/register_form) with this info in it, then just let us know your username. Be sure to forward this post to friends and bring them along. If you can't make it to New York City, there will be other actions for you to take part in to show your support on January 29th and 30th. We'll be sending out more details, but if you already know you want in, send your name, city, email, and phone number (or your FSF user name) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Backstory = In an open letter to computer users, Bill Gates asked everyone to share their wow moments: As we prepare to launch Windows Vista...I'd like to invite you to share your wow moments with us. While you explore this Web site to learn more about Windows Vista, please help us celebrate the dawn of a new era by taking a few moments to share some of the wow moments you've already experienced. BadVista.org would like to take Mr. Gates up on his open invitation. But since the Web site Microsoft set up to collect the wow moments doesn't work with free software browsers, we decided to deliver our message in person. Conveniently, Microsoft is hosting a two-part high-profile launch event near Grand Central and in Times Square in New York City on Monday, January 29th, featuring a keynote by Steve Ballmer. That's not too far away from us, so we thought we'd show up and share. Turns out, they don't want to hear your wow moment unless you are important and have an invitation. We asked for one, but we were refused: Dear Mr. Sullivan, Thank you very much for your e-mail and for your interest in the Launch Celebration. Unfortunately, because of the limited capacity, additional invitations are not being offered. So, we won't be inside the event. But we'll be there. We need you to be there too -- and it's OK if you don't have an invitation. Come join us in sharing a wow moment: the realization that Vista imposes restrictions we simply won't accept on freedoms we value. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Rearranging the DebuggingFirefox wiki page for users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have been meaning to do this for a while now. The wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingFirefox is a nice place to provide as a source for firefox bug reporters to use while sending bug reports. I rearranged it so it is oriented towards bug reporters instead of the triagers. Triagers should already be familiar with things to do before filing and while triaging) a firefox bug (ask for a new profile, maybe tell users to remove plugins, search upstream bugzilla). but users won't know this stuff. I think, if we provide this link to firefox bug reporters when they first report a bug (and mark them as needs info), it will greatly enhance the reports we get. I'd like people to check out this page (now a sandbox) before I put it up for sale :) Link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sandbox/DebuggingFirefox Some of the changes: * Remove mention of plugins. Do we want them to remove plugins? See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Issues_related_to_plugins#Disabling_plugins_found_in_the_plugins_folder on how to do that. I don't think so. * Remove mention of wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxCrashFormLetterRePlugins . The triager should find this info elsewhere in Bugsquad documentation. * Remove mention of upstream bugzilla: this is the bug triager's duty * Compacted and rearranged overall to provide steps to follow and less irrelevant information. I a sending this to ubuntu-doc and bugsquad, but because Firefox is a very visible and important package for ubuntu, I'm CC'ing devel-discuss and D. Farning (who has been triaging Firefox bugs extensively) to get as much feedback as I can. I also filed a bug report on this here so this doesn't go forgotten. Link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-doc/+bug/77228 Thanks all :) - -- Please scan all attachments for viruses. Or (though you might like Rodin) you might as well avoid The Gates of Hell and use Linux. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFkgMuLM1JzWwJYEYRAj+1AJ0SJF2mcl/q4x7ybgo042ziXDVg0wCggaRl lwuLx0/GTGJ6b8vbSCtASbA= =6blz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
