Re: Bug: blurry menu icons with most of gnome-themes
Le mardi 16 octobre 2007 à 22:34 +0200, Milan a écrit : > If nothing has changed and nobody seems to care about this, so maybe > it's a bug that only occurs on my box, maybe due to a bad upgrade from > Feisty. Please just tell me if you get the same results when using > Clearlooks. Is anybody here experiencing the same? I don't want to > bother all the list with personal issues, I can live with that, but I > thought it was general and nothing has let me think me it is not the case. The bug is not due to the configuration, as written that's a GNOME issue -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Bug: blurry menu icons with most of gnome-themes
Sebastien Bacher wrote: >> the release will be: "Ubuntu is not able to guarantee a basic clean >> interface from a version to another." Whatever the new features can be >> in other domains. >> > > The issue is not likely specific to Ubuntu and the upstream theme didn't > switch to 22x22 this cycle, is the issue new in gutsy? > For me at least, yes. If nothing has changed and nobody seems to care about this, so maybe it's a bug that only occurs on my box, maybe due to a bad upgrade from Feisty. Please just tell me if you get the same results when using Clearlooks. Is anybody here experiencing the same? I don't want to bother all the list with personal issues, I can live with that, but I thought it was general and nothing has let me think me it is not the case. Given this, the interpretation of the bug may greatly differ. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Bug: blurry menu icons with most of gnome-themes
Le mardi 16 octobre 2007 à 22:03 +0200, Milan a écrit : > - "cosmetic" may be high priority if we consider that the proper sense > of the word should be forbidden. The default theme has no problems, but > gnome-themes are installed *by default* and is simple to use, so it's > like it was default. We should expect more than half the users use > gnome-themes There is very few bugs or comments about that for the moment though. The issue is only cosmetic in the sense that's not a security issues or doesn't impact on what you can do using the distribution > the release will be: "Ubuntu is not able to guarantee a basic clean > interface from a version to another." Whatever the new features can be > in other domains. The issue is not likely specific to Ubuntu and the upstream theme didn't switch to 22x22 this cycle, is the issue new in gutsy? > - why gnome-themes use 22x22 icons when Human uses 24x24? I can't find > any reason to this, and I don't know whether it was the case in previous > versions or whether it has changed. The correct upstream format is 22x22, the Human theme could use some work and should be update, the gtkrc has been updated with the 24x24 workaround but that's not the correct way -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Bug: blurry menu icons with most of gnome-themes
Sebastien Bacher a écrit : > Gutsy is frozen now and new updates will not be accepted, the workaround > doesn't look right and the issue is only a cosmetic one and doesn't > impact the default theme. This could justify a gusty-updates stable > update but it would be better to figure why the icons look blurry and > fix that rather than using a workaround > There are two things to figure out here: - "cosmetic" may be high priority if we consider that the proper sense of the word should be forbidden. The default theme has no problems, but gnome-themes are installed *by default* and is simple to use, so it's like it was default. We should expect more than half the users use gnome-themes, and Gutsy will be an important regression for them (no need for Compiz when you base icons are blurry). The first impression of the release will be: "Ubuntu is not able to guarantee a basic clean interface from a version to another." Whatever the new features can be in other domains. - why gnome-themes use 22x22 icons when Human uses 24x24? I can't find any reason to this, and I don't know whether it was the case in previous versions or whether it has changed. Using 24x24 icons may not be a workaround if the design is made to accept it. Asking the developer who made the change somewhere (in the icons or in the theme) could help to choose a solution. Changing the many icons involved (including Ubuntu's own software ones) will require many uploads to gutsy-updates, more likely to bother users later. Why do you tell "the workaround doesn't look right"? Since it's used with Human. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Bug: blurry menu icons with most of gnome-themes
Le mardi 16 octobre 2007 à 18:38 +0200, Milan a écrit : > Please, could somebody have a look to confirm this? Now it's quite > late but this fix is *essential*. If there are drawbacks (and I could > find none), they can hardly be worse than now. Gutsy is frozen now and new updates will not be accepted, the workaround doesn't look right and the issue is only a cosmetic one and doesn't impact the default theme. This could justify a gusty-updates stable update but it would be better to figure why the icons look blurry and fix that rather than using a workaround Sebastien Bacher -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Bug: blurry menu icons with most of gnome-themes
Sebastien Bacher wrote: > As mentioned on the bug already that's not an Ubuntu specific issue and > should be worked upstream. There is no easy workaround known at the > moment but if you know one you are welcome to describe it on the bug > You know I'm not the kind of guy to damn Ubuntu because of the many bugs that are still open now, but I'm going to end thinking you really don't care. :-) This is in my last mail: > I found an easy workaround (see the > report too): using 24x24 icons in themes such as Clearlooks restores the > normal appearance of all icons. I could not find any drawback. Which was cleary detailed here (two weeks ago): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-themes/+bug/141227/comments/21 I quote my comment: "I tried a dirty hack: adding gtk-icon-sizes = "panel-menu=24,24" to /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc. And now all my Clearlooks icons are perfect in the menus. Should we only fix the erroneous themes (they are in gnome-themes)?" Please, could somebody have a look to confirm this? Now it's quite late but this fix is *essential*. If there are drawbacks (and I could find none), they can hardly be worse than now. Cheers -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Bug: blurry menu icons with most of gnome-themes
Le dimanche 14 octobre 2007 à 12:55 +0200, Milan a écrit : > Is everybody here experiencing the same? Does any developer want to > tackle the ugliest bug I have found in Gutsy? Maybe it can be fixed with > a few tweaks. Hi, As mentioned on the bug already that's not an Ubuntu specific issue and should be worked upstream. There is no easy workaround known at the moment but if you know one you are welcome to describe it on the bug Sebastien Bacher -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Bug: blurry menu icons with most of gnome-themes
I'd like to raise your awareness about bug 141227 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-themes/+bug/141227) which deals with a major issue in Gutsy. Many menu icons appear blurry when you choose a theme other than Human. I believe this is impacting all Ubuntu Destkops. This is involving pretty standard applications like Baobab, Preferred applications and even About GNOME. It makes any custom theme unusable (i.e. ugly), thus restricting Ubuntu to one only theme. There are bugs open upstream (see the report), but nobody seems to act there. This is a matter of 22x22 icons not being installed by applications (Human is using 24x24). I found an easy workaround (see the report too): using 24x24 icons in themes such as Clearlooks restores the normal appearance of all icons. I could not find any drawback. Is everybody here experiencing the same? Does any developer want to tackle the ugliest bug I have found in Gutsy? Maybe it can be fixed with a few tweaks. Thanks - and sorry for talking about bugs in the list, but it seems that in some cases we are allowed to, and we should -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
