Four crashes, no apport actions
Hello I just now had four crashes. First was emerald. Noticed that my borders was missing. Manually restarted it via terminal with 'emerald --replace '. It crashed again. Started it a third time and then it worked. Noticed segfault in syslog. Second was Evolution. I got a popup telling me The Evolution memo has quit unexpectedly. Your memos will not be available until Evolution is restarted.. This caused some kind of problem for the desktop because I could not click on anything. I eventually found out that I could use the keyboard so I was able to use the keyboard to OK the popup and shutdown Evolution. Then it was back to normal again. Third crash just after was Firefox. Started it, entered a location and it just disappeared while the page was loading. Fourth was Seahorse. Synced my keys and pgp.mit.edu wasn't responding. This caused Seahorse to crash and I could see a segfault in syslog. On neither of these four crashes apport kicked in. Why is that? Rgds -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Four crashes, no apport actions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Novin wrote: Hello I just now had four crashes. First was emerald. Noticed that my borders was missing. Manually restarted it via terminal with 'emerald --replace '. It crashed again. Started it a third time and then it worked. Noticed segfault in syslog. Second was Evolution. I got a popup telling me The Evolution memo has quit unexpectedly. Your memos will not be available until Evolution is restarted.. This caused some kind of problem for the desktop because I could not click on anything. I eventually found out that I could use the keyboard so I was able to use the keyboard to OK the popup and shutdown Evolution. Then it was back to normal again. Third crash just after was Firefox. Started it, entered a location and it just disappeared while the page was loading. Fourth was Seahorse. Synced my keys and pgp.mit.edu wasn't responding. This caused Seahorse to crash and I could see a segfault in syslog. On neither of these four crashes apport kicked in. Why is that? Rgds Apport is only used during development, it's turned off in final release. Stéphane -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIIaJXjxyfqkjBhuwRAsGnAJ9KAZz2HjwGNWz9MvFQQoYjJybjIgCfWLJW zuxcwah5oAwfBc3uEsc1SXo= =UJp1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Four crashes, no apport actions
On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 14:36 +0200, Stéphane Graber wrote: Apport is only used during development, it's turned off in final release. Stéphane I got 2 apport omg something crashed, wanna report it? popups today. -- Mackenzie Morgan http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com apt-get moo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Four crashes, no apport actions
On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 08:41:16AM -0400, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 14:36 +0200, Stéphane Graber wrote: Apport is only used during development, it's turned off in final release. Stéphane I got 2 apport omg something crashed, wanna report it? popups today. Were these somethings python applications? Apport is still currently reporting python crashes. -- Brian Murray @ubuntu.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Four crashes, no apport actions
Le mercredi 07 mai 2008 à 14:36 +0200, Stéphane Graber a écrit : Apport is only used during development, it's turned off in final release. Why is it disabled? I find it very useful to debug for advanced users instead of getting gdb traces. Is there a way to manually activate it? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Four crashes, no apport actions
Hi, Milan Bouchet-Valat [2008-05-07 17:41 +0200]: Why is it disabled? Because (1) we have our hands full with fixing the development release and want to concentrate on it (2) we should already know about the top crashers in stable releases, and the ones which just occur randomly or very seldomly are not a good target for stable updates anyway (3) we want to avoid people filing bugs and dozens of duplicates in vain (4) automatic bug reports are always a potential privacy issue, which is more concerning for stable users. I find it very useful to debug for advanced users instead of getting gdb traces. Is there a way to manually activate it? Sure, you can turn it on in /etc/default/apport. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Four crashes, no apport actions
Le mercredi 07 mai 2008 à 18:00 +0200, Martin Pitt a écrit : Hi, Milan Bouchet-Valat [2008-05-07 17:41 +0200]: Why is it disabled? Because hi, apport also uses quite some ressources which makes your system slow and make impossible to restart the corresponding application while it's working which can be a bad user experience Sebastien Bacher -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Four crashes, no apport actions
Le mercredi 07 mai 2008 à 18:00 +0200, Martin Pitt a écrit : Hi, Milan Bouchet-Valat [2008-05-07 17:41 +0200]: Why is it disabled? Because (1) we have our hands full with fixing the development release and want to concentrate on it (2) we should already know about the top crashers in stable releases, and the ones which just occur randomly or very seldomly are not a good target for stable updates anyway (3) we want to avoid people filing bugs and dozens of duplicates in vain (4) automatic bug reports are always a potential privacy issue, which is more concerning for stable users. I find it very useful to debug for advanced users instead of getting gdb traces. Is there a way to manually activate it? Sure, you can turn it on in /etc/default/apport. OK, thanks for the info, I had not managed to understand why apport did sometimes start and sometimes not. But it's definitely a great tool when debugging. And I guess this can help when triagin bugs: we can simply tell the user to activate apport for the time he gets an automatic trace. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
