Re: So, now it looks like we will never get a phone, ever

2017-04-07 Thread Tom Davies 
Hi :)
Can a fairly long-term non-geeky Ubuntu user, such as myself, install the
OS on a tablet?  I'm not great at rtfm but i'm not completely useless on
the command-line and i have a spare device that i can relax and take my
time figuring it out.

With 2 big projects shelving this project is it time to give up on it and
move to the shiny new projects or could this go the way of Kubuntu,
Thunderbird or perhaps even Lubuntu or LibreOffice?  Is now the best time
for me to try using it before it fades away or rejuvenates?

Regards from
Tom :)




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Re: So, now it looks like we will never get a phone, ever

2017-04-07 Thread Fòram na Gàidhlig 
Well, that's a tinker phone. Nice for geeks like us, but for the average
user, not so much. I am talking about a phone for the average
computer-illierate who doesn't know any more about computer than swipe &
tap. We really need something out-of-the-box.

Even as a computer literate, I estimate that I'l need to spend at least
half an hour on their homepage doing some RTFM before I'll even
understand how to get the thing.

From my experience as a localizer, most big FLOSS projects take about
10-15 years until they are mature, I really don't get why phone
development is not being given the same chance.



Sgrìobh Neil Jerram na leanas 07/04/2017 aig 09:46:
> If a free (libre) smartphone is your interest, the place to be is the
> GTA04 community (http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/).
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 8:50 PM Fòram na Gàidhlig
> > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Canonical is axing the developement of the phone and tablet:
> 
> 
> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
> 
> Same story as with what Mozilla did to us: We spent years developing a
> phone, localizing and creating a keyboard and a couple 100$ on devices
> out of our private purses for testing, only for the project to be axed
> before it had a chance to take off, because the "Internet of Things"
> seems to be more attractive.
> 
> We can also forget about getting our languages on iOS or Android,
> because the manufacturers will decide which language are allowed on each
> phone, not the user. So, if you're not one of the big 10-20 who happen
> to be living in the wrong country, tough luck.
> 
> After Adaptxt was axed and we had to move to Swiftkey, iOS isn't even
> allowing our keyboard locale.
> 
> 
> So, this is another VERY BLACK day for our languages, and a sad day for
> all those developers who spent so much effort into giving us a free (as
> in freedom) phone.
> 
> I hope this mail reaches the powers that be.
> 
> GunChleoc
> 
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Re: So, now it looks like we will never get a phone, ever

2017-04-07 Thread Neil Jerram 
If a free (libre) smartphone is your interest, the place to be is the GTA04
community (http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/).


On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 8:50 PM Fòram na Gàidhlig 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Canonical is axing the developement of the phone and tablet:
>
>
> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
>
> Same story as with what Mozilla did to us: We spent years developing a
> phone, localizing and creating a keyboard and a couple 100$ on devices
> out of our private purses for testing, only for the project to be axed
> before it had a chance to take off, because the "Internet of Things"
> seems to be more attractive.
>
> We can also forget about getting our languages on iOS or Android,
> because the manufacturers will decide which language are allowed on each
> phone, not the user. So, if you're not one of the big 10-20 who happen
> to be living in the wrong country, tough luck.
>
> After Adaptxt was axed and we had to move to Swiftkey, iOS isn't even
> allowing our keyboard locale.
>
>
> So, this is another VERY BLACK day for our languages, and a sad day for
> all those developers who spent so much effort into giving us a free (as
> in freedom) phone.
>
> I hope this mail reaches the powers that be.
>
> GunChleoc
>
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