Re: merging keyboard keyboard shortcuts capplets
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Milan Bouchet-Valat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it is reasonable to fork upstream GNOME since this will lead to quite a few problems when they change their applets. Imagine for example they create a Mouse gestures tab in the Shortcuts applet. Where will it go in Ubuntu? True, but 1) As far as I know, there will be no mouse gestures coming any time soon 2) Even if it does, I don't see any clear consensus that it would go into the Shortcuts applet anyway, since it could alternatively be put into the mouse applet 3) And even then, this patch could just be reverted and everything goes back to how it is in upstream But maybe you can propose them to help merging applets that they'd like to see merged. Bluetooth preferences could go to Removable devices for example, and I'm sure there are plenty of ideas in that way. Honestly I'm not convinced that making any other proposals is worth the effort. Merging keyboard keyboard shortcuts seems to me like the most obvious and straightforward merge there is. Given that I actually have a working patch for that and I am offering to finish the patch, and there is *still* very limited upstream interest, I very highly doubt that there would be any significant interest in any other proposed merges. Hope this helps - anyway IMHO your goal is right (TM) Cheers :) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: merging keyboard keyboard shortcuts capplets
Le vendredi 25 avril 2008 à 16:23 +1000, Jared Moore a écrit : Around a month ago I uploaded a patch to GNOME bugzilla to merge the keyboard shortcuts capplet (gnome-keybinding-properties) into the keyboard capplet (gnome-keyboard-properties) [1]. This was discussed on the gnomecc-list [2], but there was fairly limited interest from the gnome-control-center developers. This is a good idea, but what Matthias Clasen says [2] about adding mouse gestures to a broader Shortcuts applet is not stupid either. Though I can agree he's maybe not as comprehensive as he could be... ;-) I'm wondering if there is any interest in adopting this patch in Ubuntu. Clearly there is a lot of work left to be done on the patch, but I'd prefer not to spend working time on it if there isn't any interest. In particular I'm looking for developer interest, i.e. from whoever would be in a position to eventually commit this to Ubuntu. I believe that with some work this patch can be redone in a way that will minimise the size of the patch (and therefore not cause horrible breakage if/when there are upstream changes). Note that reducing the number of items in System-Preferences is the 4th highest idea on Ubuntu brainstorm [3], and there are numerous related Launchpad bugs / wiki pages / blog posts / etc. [4][5], probably more if you dig deep enough... I don't think it is reasonable to fork upstream GNOME since this will lead to quite a few problems when they change their applets. Imagine for example they create a Mouse gestures tab in the Shortcuts applet. Where will it go in Ubuntu? But maybe you can propose them to help merging applets that they'd like to see merged. Bluetooth preferences could go to Removable devices for example, and I'm sure there are plenty of ideas in that way. Hope this helps - anyway IMHO your goal is right (TM) [1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78102 [2] Thread beginning at http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnomecc-list/2008-March/msg00018.html [3] http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/most_popular_ever/ [4] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MenusRevisited2 [5] http://architectfantasy.com/?p=25 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
merging keyboard keyboard shortcuts capplets
Not sure if this is the right list to send this to, but anyway: Around a month ago I uploaded a patch to GNOME bugzilla to merge the keyboard shortcuts capplet (gnome-keybinding-properties) into the keyboard capplet (gnome-keyboard-properties) [1]. This was discussed on the gnomecc-list [2], but there was fairly limited interest from the gnome-control-center developers. I'm wondering if there is any interest in adopting this patch in Ubuntu. Clearly there is a lot of work left to be done on the patch, but I'd prefer not to spend working time on it if there isn't any interest. In particular I'm looking for developer interest, i.e. from whoever would be in a position to eventually commit this to Ubuntu. I believe that with some work this patch can be redone in a way that will minimise the size of the patch (and therefore not cause horrible breakage if/when there are upstream changes). Note that reducing the number of items in System-Preferences is the 4th highest idea on Ubuntu brainstorm [3], and there are numerous related Launchpad bugs / wiki pages / blog posts / etc. [4][5], probably more if you dig deep enough... Cheers, Jared Moore [1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78102 [2] Thread beginning at http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnomecc-list/2008-March/msg00018.html [3] http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/most_popular_ever/ [4] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MenusRevisited2 [5] http://architectfantasy.com/?p=25 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: merging keyboard keyboard shortcuts capplets
Hi all, Not sure if this is the right list to send this to, but anyway: I'm not sure either :P Around a month ago I uploaded a patch to GNOME bugzilla to merge the keyboard shortcuts capplet (gnome-keybinding-properties) into the keyboard capplet (gnome-keyboard-properties) [1]. This was discussed on the gnomecc-list [2], but there was fairly limited interest from the gnome-control-center developers. I'm wondering if there is any interest in adopting this patch in Ubuntu. Clearly there is a lot of work left to be done on the patch, but I'd prefer not to spend working time on it if there isn't any interest. In particular I'm looking for developer interest, i.e. from whoever would be in a position to eventually commit this to Ubuntu. I believe that with some work this patch can be redone in a way that will minimise the size of the patch (and therefore not cause horrible breakage if/when there are upstream changes). +1 Note that reducing the number of items in System-Preferences is the 4th highest idea on Ubuntu brainstorm [3], and there are numerous related Launchpad bugs / wiki pages / blog posts / etc. [4][5], probably more if you dig deep enough... Yeah, lots of them would be better if merged: Network tools/Network, etc. Cheers, Jared Moore [1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78102 [2] Thread beginning at http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnomecc-list/2008-March/msg00018.html [3] http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/most_popular_ever/ [4] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MenusRevisited2 [5] http://architectfantasy.com/?p=25 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: merging keyboard keyboard shortcuts capplets
2008/4/25 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Note that reducing the number of items in System-Preferences is the 4th highest idea on Ubuntu brainstorm [3], and there are numerous related Launchpad bugs / wiki pages / blog posts / etc. [4][5], probably more if you dig deep enough... Yeah, lots of them would be better if merged: Network tools/Network, etc. But if you reduce them by removing the functionality that's a bad thing imo. We don't want to force people to learn the command line to administer their desktop computer. Caroline -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: merging keyboard keyboard shortcuts capplets
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Caroline Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if you reduce them by removing the functionality that's a bad thing imo. We don't want to force people to learn the command line to administer their desktop computer. Caroline My patch doesn't remove any functionality, it just moves the contents of the keyboard shortucts capplet window into a new tab in the keyboard capplet. Have a look at the screenshot at the GNOME bugzilla page [1] Jared Moore [1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78102#c13 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
