nvidia drivers
Is there an understandable solution to installing a nvidia proprietary graphics driver in ubuntu 18.04 lts desktop new install that works? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
the graphical interface disappear using nvidia drivers
The ubuntu graphical interface disappeared after installing nvidia drivers successfully.The nvidia drivers work well,but I cannot open the ubuntu graphical interface.The xorg.conf and lightdm are also ok.I cannot figure this problem that spending my two weeks on that. Please help!!!-- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule
2013/9/6 Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro p.oliveira.cas...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/9/2 Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com my suggestion is your realize the real facts that all operating systems provide outdated drivers and it's your job to update them if you want the latest drivers and to expect the distro to be able to keep up like that is silly to say the least. That's a lie. On many other linux distro the drivers are in sync to upstream (or very close to it). Sure it is if you consider RPMFusion official (and I don't even remember properly if they carry it.) I'll let you have that so I don't have to explain known facts like the ones that are kind of stated here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#NVIDIA_Proprietary_Graphics_Drivers -- https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers I'm no Fedora or OpenSuse user so I'll take those as facts that pretty much imply that it would be impossible for them to be in sync or close to in sync which leaves Arch and all the others that I'm not willing to verify. Did you pull this magic metric only from Arch and then claim somebody else lied? I only assume to ask that question because you did briefly mention Arch. It's silly to think that a distro cannot keep up like that, many already do, and they work pretty well. Almost as silly as you thinking it's Ubuntu's job to be your hardware vendor and give you the latest drivers? Yes, I was talking about Arch and all Arch based distros (and some others), not Fedora or openSuSE. For me, using the word many for more then 3 things is not a lie. A lie is to ignore this distros and say no OS do this. The OS-for-human-beings job is to make things easy for human beings. I think you haven't got that. It's should be easy to be up-to-date. It should be easy to upgrade your system. It should be easy to navigate. Everything should be easy. That's what successful mobile platforms are doing now and we must learn that from them. Average user don't even know what compile means. They don't even know what is a driver. They only want a faster PC, and delivering new GPU drivers do the job and make users happier to use their desktops. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule
2013/9/2 Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com my suggestion is your realize the real facts that all operating systems provide outdated drivers and it's your job to update them if you want the latest drivers and to expect the distro to be able to keep up like that is silly to say the least. That's a lie. On many other linux distro the drivers are in sync to upstream (or very close to it). It's silly to think that a distro cannot keep up like that, many already do, and they work pretty well. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro p.oliveira.cas...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/9/2 Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com my suggestion is your realize the real facts that all operating systems provide outdated drivers and it's your job to update them if you want the latest drivers and to expect the distro to be able to keep up like that is silly to say the least. That's a lie. On many other linux distro the drivers are in sync to upstream (or very close to it). Sure it is if you consider RPMFusion official (and I don't even remember properly if they carry it.) I'll let you have that so I don't have to explain known facts like the ones that are kind of stated here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#NVIDIA_Proprietary_Graphics_Drivers -- https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers I'm no Fedora or OpenSuse user so I'll take those as facts that pretty much imply that it would be impossible for them to be in sync or close to in sync which leaves Arch and all the others that I'm not willing to verify. Did you pull this magic metric only from Arch and then claim somebody else lied? I only assume to ask that question because you did briefly mention Arch. It's silly to think that a distro cannot keep up like that, many already do, and they work pretty well. Almost as silly as you thinking it's Ubuntu's job to be your hardware vendor and give you the latest drivers? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro p.oliveira.cas...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/9/6 Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro p.oliveira.cas...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/9/2 Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com my suggestion is your realize the real facts that all operating systems provide outdated drivers and it's your job to update them if you want the latest drivers and to expect the distro to be able to keep up like that is silly to say the least. That's a lie. On many other linux distro the drivers are in sync to upstream (or very close to it). Sure it is if you consider RPMFusion official (and I don't even remember properly if they carry it.) I'll let you have that so I don't have to explain known facts like the ones that are kind of stated here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#NVIDIA_Proprietary_Graphics_Drivers -- https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers I'm no Fedora or OpenSuse user so I'll take those as facts that pretty much imply that it would be impossible for them to be in sync or close to in sync which leaves Arch and all the others that I'm not willing to verify. Did you pull this magic metric only from Arch and then claim somebody else lied? I only assume to ask that question because you did briefly mention Arch. It's silly to think that a distro cannot keep up like that, many already do, and they work pretty well. Almost as silly as you thinking it's Ubuntu's job to be your hardware vendor and give you the latest drivers? Yes, I was talking about Arch and all Arch based distros (and some others), not Fedora or openSuSE. For me, using the word many for more then 3 things is not a lie. A lie is to ignore this distros and say no OS do this. The OS-for-human-beings job is to make things easy for human beings. I think you haven't got that. It's should be easy to be up-to-date. It should be easy to upgrade your system. It should be easy to navigate. Everything should be easy. That's what successful mobile platforms are doing now and we must learn that from them. Average user don't even know what compile means. They don't even know what is a driver. They only want a faster PC, and delivering new GPU drivers do the job and make users happier to use their desktops. Average users don't really care if they are on the latest vendor libraries, they just want it to work and the OS/distro should be responsible for that. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule
If you have a support contract with Canonical, then maybe Canonical has a support obligation, but Ubuntu, in particular for proprietary software, has no support obligation. Scott K On Friday, September 06, 2013 15:14:55 AG Restringere wrote: It's very simple: Nvidia certifies a driver in the long lived branch, when it releases a new stable driver it recommends every Linux user to install that driver immediately for the best experience. Ubuntu has a support obligation make the latest most up-to-date certified drivers available to all users of currently supported versions especially 12.04 LTS, 13.04 and 13.10. If Ubuntu publishes out-of-date drivers and doesn't replace them when there's a newer one available it's a major problem. Graphics drivers, second to the Linux Kernel itself and networking/wifi drivers, are the most important drivers on a desktop system, they require a very consistent and high level of maintenance to keep a system in good working order. *Linux x86/IA32* Latest Long Lived Branch version: 319.49http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-319.49-driver.html -- this is the STABLE driver, anything before this is out-of-date Latest Short Lived Branch version: 325.15http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-325.15-driver.html -- this is the BETA driver, for testing purposes Latest Legacy GPU version (304.xx series): 304.108http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-304.108-driver.html -- this is for legacy users, those with old graphics cards Latest Legacy GPU version (71.86.xx series): 71.86.15http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-71.86.15-driver.htm l -- these are all other legacy drivers for even older cards Latest Legacy GPU version (96.43.xx series): 96.43.23http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-96.43.23-driver.htm l -- Latest Legacy GPU version (173.14.xx series): 173.14.37http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-173.14.37-driver.h tml -- http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro p.oliveira.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I was trying to say. They want it work and to be as fast as it can be, without worrying about it. I'm out of this one, the straw man just came out. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule
It's very simple: Nvidia certifies a driver in the long lived branch, when it releases a new stable driver it recommends every Linux user to install that driver immediately for the best experience. Ubuntu has a support obligation make the latest most up-to-date certified drivers available to all users of currently supported versions especially 12.04 LTS, 13.04 and 13.10. If Ubuntu publishes out-of-date drivers and doesn't replace them when there's a newer one available it's a major problem. Graphics drivers, second to the Linux Kernel itself and networking/wifi drivers, are the most important drivers on a desktop system, they require a very consistent and high level of maintenance to keep a system in good working order. *Linux x86/IA32* Latest Long Lived Branch version: 319.49http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-319.49-driver.html -- this is the STABLE driver, anything before this is out-of-date Latest Short Lived Branch version: 325.15http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-325.15-driver.html -- this is the BETA driver, for testing purposes Latest Legacy GPU version (304.xx series): 304.108http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-304.108-driver.html -- this is for legacy users, those with old graphics cards Latest Legacy GPU version (71.86.xx series): 71.86.15http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-71.86.15-driver.html -- these are all other legacy drivers for even older cards Latest Legacy GPU version (96.43.xx series): 96.43.23http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-96.43.23-driver.html -- Latest Legacy GPU version (173.14.xx series): 173.14.37http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-173.14.37-driver.html -- http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro p.oliveira.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I was trying to say. They want it work and to be as fast as it can be, without worrying about it. I'm out of this one, the straw man just came out. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule
You aren't talking about open source. You're talking about proprietary software distribution. From a FOSS perspective, the best practice is not to use it. Scott K Agree with you on that one, ideally if only Nvidia drivers and the many wireless cards had open-source drivers this would be solved easily, I would actually prefer that. Unfortunately we live in the real world where many companies still use archaic proprietary methods and we have to work with them to make sure something like Ubuntu can be useful for everyone. Sincerely, I hope Nvidia switches to open-source and makes this easier, but that's going to take a long time to achieve. In the mean time the best we can do is publish Nvidia drivers within days of release and make sure everyone is using the best possible up-to-date versions. To do otherwise just makes an already bad situation - proprietary Nvidia drivers - even worse. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.comwrote: AG Restringere ag.restring...@gmail.com wrote: If you have a support contract with Canonical, then maybe Canonical has a support obligation, but Ubuntu, in particular for proprietary software, has no support obligation. No, that's not it, let's not confuse the issue, the commercial side and Canonical has nothing do with what I'm currently advocating. I never mentioned Canonical because I was distinguishing this from the commercial side of things. This is purely a community support and engineering best-practices issue, not a commercial issue. The Linux Kernel guys have no commercial contracts with us but they embrace best practices and use the best recommendations to make sure they provide the best support for the Kernel. It's not commercial it's a community support obligation and engineering best-practices. This is the basis for the open-source Linux community, people helping each other to obtain the best possible systems. It's also the purpose of Ubuntu, I am because of who we all are and Linux for human beings. To suggest that we need commercial contracts just to get proper device support for very mainstream and common graphics cards defeats the whole purpose of open-source Linux distributions, you might as well get an Apple Mac or Windows computer, there's no point to it. It's like saying we need a commercial contract with the Linux Foundation just to get support for Intel and AMD CPU's, it's absurd. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.comwrote: If you have a support contract with Canonical, then maybe Canonical has a support obligation, but Ubuntu, in particular for proprietary software, has no support obligation. Scott K On Friday, September 06, 2013 15:14:55 AG Restringere wrote: It's very simple: Nvidia certifies a driver in the long lived branch, when it releases a new stable driver it recommends every Linux user to install that driver immediately for the best experience. Ubuntu has a support obligation make the latest most up-to-date certified drivers available to all users of currently supported versions especially 12.04 LTS, 13.04 and 13.10. If Ubuntu publishes out-of-date drivers and doesn't replace them when there's a newer one available it's a major problem. Graphics drivers, second to the Linux Kernel itself and networking/wifi drivers, are the most important drivers on a desktop system, they require a very consistent and high level of maintenance to keep a system in good working order. *Linux x86/IA32* Latest Long Lived Branch version: 319.49 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-319.49-driver.html -- this is the STABLE driver, anything before this is out-of-date Latest Short Lived Branch version: 325.15 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-325.15-driver.html -- this is the BETA driver, for testing purposes Latest Legacy GPU version (304.xx series): 304.108 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-304.108-driver.html -- this is for legacy users, those with old graphics cards Latest Legacy GPU version (71.86.xx series): 71.86.15 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-71.86.15-driver.htm l -- these are all other legacy drivers for even older cards Latest Legacy GPU version (96.43.xx series): 96.43.23 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-96.43.23-driver.htm l -- Latest Legacy GPU version (173.14.xx series): 173.14.37 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-173.14.37-driver.h tml -- http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro p.oliveira.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I was trying to say. They want it work and to be as fast as it can be, without worrying about
Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro p.oliveira.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I was trying to say. They want it work and to be as fast as it can be, without worrying about it. I'm out of this one, the straw man just came out. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule
If you have a support contract with Canonical, then maybe Canonical has a support obligation, but Ubuntu, in particular for proprietary software, has no support obligation. No, that's not it, let's not confuse the issue, the commercial side and Canonical has nothing do with what I'm currently advocating. I never mentioned Canonical because I was distinguishing this from the commercial side of things. This is purely a community support and engineering best-practices issue, not a commercial issue. The Linux Kernel guys have no commercial contracts with us but they embrace best practices and use the best recommendations to make sure they provide the best support for the Kernel. It's not commercial it's a community support obligation and engineering best-practices. This is the basis for the open-source Linux community, people helping each other to obtain the best possible systems. It's also the purpose of Ubuntu, I am because of who we all are and Linux for human beings. To suggest that we need commercial contracts just to get proper device support for very mainstream and common graphics cards defeats the whole purpose of open-source Linux distributions, you might as well get an Apple Mac or Windows computer, there's no point to it. It's like saying we need a commercial contract with the Linux Foundation just to get support for Intel and AMD CPU's, it's absurd. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.comwrote: If you have a support contract with Canonical, then maybe Canonical has a support obligation, but Ubuntu, in particular for proprietary software, has no support obligation. Scott K On Friday, September 06, 2013 15:14:55 AG Restringere wrote: It's very simple: Nvidia certifies a driver in the long lived branch, when it releases a new stable driver it recommends every Linux user to install that driver immediately for the best experience. Ubuntu has a support obligation make the latest most up-to-date certified drivers available to all users of currently supported versions especially 12.04 LTS, 13.04 and 13.10. If Ubuntu publishes out-of-date drivers and doesn't replace them when there's a newer one available it's a major problem. Graphics drivers, second to the Linux Kernel itself and networking/wifi drivers, are the most important drivers on a desktop system, they require a very consistent and high level of maintenance to keep a system in good working order. *Linux x86/IA32* Latest Long Lived Branch version: 319.49 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-319.49-driver.html -- this is the STABLE driver, anything before this is out-of-date Latest Short Lived Branch version: 325.15 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-325.15-driver.html -- this is the BETA driver, for testing purposes Latest Legacy GPU version (304.xx series): 304.108 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-304.108-driver.html -- this is for legacy users, those with old graphics cards Latest Legacy GPU version (71.86.xx series): 71.86.15 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-71.86.15-driver.htm l -- these are all other legacy drivers for even older cards Latest Legacy GPU version (96.43.xx series): 96.43.23 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-96.43.23-driver.htm l -- Latest Legacy GPU version (173.14.xx series): 173.14.37 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-173.14.37-driver.h tml -- http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro p.oliveira.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I was trying to say. They want it work and to be as fast as it can be, without worrying about it. I'm out of this one, the straw man just came out. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule
AG Restringere ag.restring...@gmail.com wrote: If you have a support contract with Canonical, then maybe Canonical has a support obligation, but Ubuntu, in particular for proprietary software, has no support obligation. No, that's not it, let's not confuse the issue, the commercial side and Canonical has nothing do with what I'm currently advocating. I never mentioned Canonical because I was distinguishing this from the commercial side of things. This is purely a community support and engineering best-practices issue, not a commercial issue. The Linux Kernel guys have no commercial contracts with us but they embrace best practices and use the best recommendations to make sure they provide the best support for the Kernel. It's not commercial it's a community support obligation and engineering best-practices. This is the basis for the open-source Linux community, people helping each other to obtain the best possible systems. It's also the purpose of Ubuntu, I am because of who we all are and Linux for human beings. To suggest that we need commercial contracts just to get proper device support for very mainstream and common graphics cards defeats the whole purpose of open-source Linux distributions, you might as well get an Apple Mac or Windows computer, there's no point to it. It's like saying we need a commercial contract with the Linux Foundation just to get support for Intel and AMD CPU's, it's absurd. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.comwrote: If you have a support contract with Canonical, then maybe Canonical has a support obligation, but Ubuntu, in particular for proprietary software, has no support obligation. Scott K On Friday, September 06, 2013 15:14:55 AG Restringere wrote: It's very simple: Nvidia certifies a driver in the long lived branch, when it releases a new stable driver it recommends every Linux user to install that driver immediately for the best experience. Ubuntu has a support obligation make the latest most up-to-date certified drivers available to all users of currently supported versions especially 12.04 LTS, 13.04 and 13.10. If Ubuntu publishes out-of-date drivers and doesn't replace them when there's a newer one available it's a major problem. Graphics drivers, second to the Linux Kernel itself and networking/wifi drivers, are the most important drivers on a desktop system, they require a very consistent and high level of maintenance to keep a system in good working order. *Linux x86/IA32* Latest Long Lived Branch version: 319.49 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-319.49-driver.html -- this is the STABLE driver, anything before this is out-of-date Latest Short Lived Branch version: 325.15 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-325.15-driver.html -- this is the BETA driver, for testing purposes Latest Legacy GPU version (304.xx series): 304.108 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-304.108-driver.html -- this is for legacy users, those with old graphics cards Latest Legacy GPU version (71.86.xx series): 71.86.15 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-71.86.15-driver.htm l -- these are all other legacy drivers for even older cards Latest Legacy GPU version (96.43.xx series): 96.43.23 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-96.43.23-driver.htm l -- Latest Legacy GPU version (173.14.xx series): 173.14.37 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-173.14.37-driver.h tml -- http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro p.oliveira.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is what I was trying to say. They want it work and to be as fast as it can be, without worrying about it. I'm out of this one, the straw man just came out. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss You aren't talking about open source. You're talking about proprietary software distribution. From a FOSS perspective, the best practice is not to use it. Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule
On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 12:05:41PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote: On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:01 PM, AG Restringere Since when did Nvidia stop offering the latest downloads via their website? Or is this just an excuse for you to continue to be lazy instead of downloading the source and compiling it yourself? Do you I don't think that's fair. Here we have someone coming forward, identifying a specific issue and offering help to fix the issue in a PPA for everyone, and you're rejecting it because he's lazy? The point of Ubuntu is to make things easy for everyone. I don't want to have to get the latest downloads and compile them myself. I want to click through the installer and have everything Just Work. Even though I am capable of doing things myself, I'd prefer to focus on the problems I want to use my computer to solve, instead of having to do every little thing myself. In Ubuntu, we've always had a focus on giving people a great out-of-the-box experience. I'm sure that improving driver availability and helping to make sure that it is up-to-date falls into this. AGS: I don't think Jordan's view represents the majority of Ubuntu users and developers. Thank you for your offer to contribute. I regret that I can't help directly myself, since I'm not familiar with Nvidia graphics and drivers at all. But it's great to see your offer for help, and I encourage you to persevere. All contributions that improve matters are welcome. Timo's comment in the bug seems to have a valid point, which is that two weeks is perhaps a bit too soon to expect other contributors to have updated drivers for you. But if you could package something newer in a PPA on a faster cadence, then I'm sure that would be useful to everyone looking for driver updates sooner. Robie -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule
I agree with Robie. Thanks for reporting the issue and proposing your help. Regards Yann 2013/9/3 Robie Basak robie.ba...@ubuntu.com On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 12:05:41PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote: On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:01 PM, AG Restringere Since when did Nvidia stop offering the latest downloads via their website? Or is this just an excuse for you to continue to be lazy instead of downloading the source and compiling it yourself? Do you I don't think that's fair. Here we have someone coming forward, identifying a specific issue and offering help to fix the issue in a PPA for everyone, and you're rejecting it because he's lazy? The point of Ubuntu is to make things easy for everyone. I don't want to have to get the latest downloads and compile them myself. I want to click through the installer and have everything Just Work. Even though I am capable of doing things myself, I'd prefer to focus on the problems I want to use my computer to solve, instead of having to do every little thing myself. In Ubuntu, we've always had a focus on giving people a great out-of-the-box experience. I'm sure that improving driver availability and helping to make sure that it is up-to-date falls into this. AGS: I don't think Jordan's view represents the majority of Ubuntu users and developers. Thank you for your offer to contribute. I regret that I can't help directly myself, since I'm not familiar with Nvidia graphics and drivers at all. But it's great to see your offer for help, and I encourage you to persevere. All contributions that improve matters are welcome. Timo's comment in the bug seems to have a valid point, which is that two weeks is perhaps a bit too soon to expect other contributors to have updated drivers for you. But if you could package something newer in a PPA on a faster cadence, then I'm sure that would be useful to everyone looking for driver updates sooner. Robie -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule
Something that has really frustrated me about Ubuntu is how nvidia-graphics drivers packages are never kept in sync with the upstream release schedule. As a former Windows user I learned a long time ago that the way to achieve the best performance from your machine was to keep up to date with official Nvidia releases. One of the major disadvantages of Ubuntu is that I have to wait months for new drivers to be released or have to rely on PPA's which is a non-ideal situation. Filed a bug about this: #1219908 http://goo.gl/cjtw8N The official Nvidia long-lived-branch stable driver is now 319.49. That means that the recommended official driver is 319.49 and should be used by all Nvidia users except those using old legacy devices. There are important fixes that are in this driver and the previous 319.17 that affect Chromium browser users especially: + Fixed a memory leak that occurred when destroying a GLX window but not its associated X window. These can crash machines using Nvidia GPU's according to a Chromium-bug http://crbug.com/145600 NVIDIA linux drivers are unstable when using multiple Open GL contexts and with low memory.: and if check `about:gpu` you will see this is a major reason most if not all Nvidia GPU's are currently blacklisted. Also, when using Windows 7 I am liberty to install any driver version I want, keeping my machine up to date with the latest official Nvidia fixes. With Ubuntu I'm stuck with older drivers that affect performance and contain old bugs that have already been fixed. This leads to a lower quality experience than with Windows. Drivers need to be kept current with upstream in my opinion. For the time being I have been cherry-picking *.deb packages from X-Org-Edgers so that I can replicate that Windows experience and it's been working. However, all Ubuntu users should have this experience as well and most do not know how to manually install packages using DPKG so it is out of their reach. The current Nvidia driver versions are as follows: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.htmlLong Lived Branch version: 319.49 -- `nvidia-current` should be here as stable Short Lived Branch version: 325.15 -- `nvidia-updates` should be here as unstable Legacy GPU version (304.xx series): 304.108 -- `nvidia-current-legacy` should be here. This situation has to be solved, Ubuntu cannot be so far behind the curve that it cannot keep Nvidia drivers fresh and in sync with the upstream Nvidia release schedule... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/1219908 As a Computer Science major and someone who like to learn Linux development I would like it if one of the Nvidia packagers could come forward and teach me how to package Nvidia-drivers so we could maintain a semi-official PPA for the time being that stays in mirror-lock-step with the official upstream releases. Best regards, AGS -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:01 PM, AG Restringere ag.restring...@gmail.com wrote: Something that has really frustrated me about Ubuntu is how nvidia-graphics drivers packages are never kept in sync with the upstream release schedule. As a former Windows user I learned a long time ago that the way to achieve the best performance from your machine was to keep up to date with official Nvidia releases. One of the major disadvantages of Ubuntu is that I have to wait months for new drivers to be released or have to rely on PPA's which is a non-ideal situation. Since when did Nvidia stop offering the latest downloads via their website? Or is this just an excuse for you to continue to be lazy instead of downloading the source and compiling it yourself? Seriusly? Ubuntu is Linux for human beings and I have to download and compile driver from myself? -- Riccardo Padovani -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
how to test restricted nvidia drivers on live cd without CAB?
One trick I've used quite a few times, was to test to see if the nvidia restricted drivers would work on a machine before installing by doing the following: 1) booting a live cd 2) installing the restricted drivers 3) pressing ctrl+alt+backspace to load them Will this be possible in 9.04 without CAB? (Naturally, alt+sysrq+k doesn't work on my two machines at home, so I'm skeptical about it as a solution). Thanks, Alex -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: how to test restricted nvidia drivers on live cd without CAB?
ma, 2009-02-16 kello 11:51 +, Odysseus Flappington kirjoitti: One trick I've used quite a few times, was to test to see if the nvidia restricted drivers would work on a machine before installing by doing the following: 1) booting a live cd 2) installing the restricted drivers 3) pressing ctrl+alt+backspace to load them Will this be possible in 9.04 without CAB? It is always possible to restart the X server without Control-Alt-Backspace. For example, you can reboot the machine by using the power or reset buttions. If you find Control-Alt-Backspace to be more convenient to you, can enable it even in jaunty. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: how to test restricted nvidia drivers on live cd without CAB?
hi, On Mo, 2009-02-16 at 11:51 +, Odysseus Flappington wrote: One trick I've used quite a few times, was to test to see if the nvidia restricted drivers would work on a machine before installing by doing the following: 1) booting a live cd 2) installing the restricted drivers 3) pressing ctrl+alt+backspace to load them Will this be possible in 9.04 without CAB? yes, you should simply log out to get the X server restarted instead of killing it with CAB ciao oli signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: how to test restricted nvidia drivers on live cd without CAB?
2009/2/16 Lars Wirzenius l...@ubuntu.com: ma, 2009-02-16 kello 11:51 +, Odysseus Flappington kirjoitti: One trick I've used quite a few times, was to test to see if the nvidia restricted drivers would work on a machine before installing by doing the following: 1) booting a live cd 2) installing the restricted drivers 3) pressing ctrl+alt+backspace to load them Will this be possible in 9.04 without CAB? It is always possible to restart the X server without Control-Alt-Backspace. For example, you can reboot the machine by using the power or reset buttions. If you find Control-Alt-Backspace to be more convenient to you, can enable it even in jaunty. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss I'm just kinda asking how to restart X without rebooting the computer, so that I can test nvidia drivers in a live cd session.. I take it there must be a way from the command-line.. Oliver suggested logging out and back in again.. hopefully that'll actually reload the gfx drivers. Alex -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: how to test restricted nvidia drivers on live cd without CAB?
Hi Odysseus Odysseus Flappington wrote: I'm just kinda asking how to restart X without rebooting the computer, so that I can test nvidia drivers in a live cd session.. I take it there must be a way from the command-line.. Oliver suggested logging out and back in again.. hopefully that'll actually reload the gfx drivers. Yes, logging out does restart the X server. I guess you could do a killall X if you really wanted to do it from the command line. GDM should bring it back up for you. -Jonathan -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
RE: how to test restricted nvidia drivers on live cd without CAB?
Alex, You should be able to change the configuration settings on the Live cd, and then test it out in that manner. Though there might be a little extra work involved, as my (potentially incorrect) assumption is that a reboot is needed for those configuration settings to take effect. -Mike -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: nVidia drivers for Intrepid available
Olá Alberto e a todos. On Thursday 17 July 2008 11:06:40 Alberto Milone wrote: What's the output of this command? dpkg-divert --list /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 Alberto Just tried it from scratch and got the same error, and no output from that command. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://Ubuntu.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: nVidia drivers for Intrepid available
On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 13:26 +0100, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote: Olá Alberto e a todos. On Thursday 17 July 2008 11:06:40 Alberto Milone wrote: What's the output of this command? dpkg-divert --list /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 Alberto Just tried it from scratch and got the same error, and no output from that command. Disable my PPA and type: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173 and post the output. Alberto -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: nVidia drivers for Intrepid available
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Alberto Milone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Disable my PPA and type: Disabled sudo apt-get update done, and i did a dist-upgrade too, just in casa. sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173 and post the output. Alberto # apt-get install nvidia-glx-173 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libktnef1 libkholidays4 liblockdev1 libkcal2b kaddressbook kdepim-kresources korganizer libkdepim1a kghostview Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following NEW packages will be installed: nvidia-glx-173 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. 3 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/12.8MB of archives. After this operation, 40.8MB of additional disk space will be used. (Reading database ... 283035 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking nvidia-glx-173 (from .../nvidia-glx-173_173.14.09-0ubuntu6_amd64.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-173_173.14.09-0ubuntu6_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1', which is also in package ia32-libs Processing triggers for man-db ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-173_173.14.09-0ubuntu6_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) ps. please keep cc'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'cause i'm not on my laptop, so i wont check my ubuntu ML inbox. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) Linux user #443786 GPG key 1024D/00967685 The body of this email is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 http://BUGabundo.net -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Problem with latest Xorg Nvidia drivers
I fixed the Nvidia driver install by deleting the /usr/lib/nvidia folder then trying the driver install again--for some reason the newer driver install wouldn't update the older install from Gutsy. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
