Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-16 Thread Pumpkin Lord
A bit of color depth is now added. So it's a bit darker overall now. I
think it looks more dynamic now, compared to last one. And a little
bit of noise effect is now added for those who requested it. :) But
it's only temporary playing. I think I will remove it in final
version. :)

Here it is:
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/8131/ubuntupictogramstyledvd.png

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-16 Thread Сергей
I can't see the point of the little live cd label. I store mostly
alternate CDs or 2-in-1 DVDs, so that label is simply not true for me. And
its location also seems unnatural to me.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-16 Thread Thomas Storck
That looks a lot better. I think your good to go man!
On Feb 16, 2011 2:49 AM, Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.com wrote:
 A bit of color depth is now added. So it's a bit darker overall now. I
 think it looks more dynamic now, compared to last one. And a little
 bit of noise effect is now added for those who requested it. :) But
 it's only temporary playing. I think I will remove it in final
 version. :)

 Here it is:
 http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/8131/ubuntupictogramstyledvd.png

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-16 Thread Pumpkin Lord
I waited for someone to notice that small live CD addon. Cause I'm
burning all Linux ISOs to DVDs too. So actually there is no big point
in that, except I wanted it to be more officialish, cause Ubuntu
ISOs are always a CD releases (except alternative DVD edition which is
very rarely used I think), not like recent Linux Mint for example. And
when I'm printing this stuff for myself, I'm always putting live DVD
or simply 32-bit. I think it will be removed from the final version,
and maybe replaced with live DVD or 32-bit, or with nothing at
all.

About placement, it is placed exactly on the upper virtual edge, like
side Ubuntu logo, and back tab. And on the right side, it is lined
with main title tab edge too, so if someone have some suggestion where
to place it, I'm open for it. To me this current placement seems
logical.

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[ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Wallpaper

2011-02-16 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
Hi

A few months back John Baer approacedh Edubuntu and offered some
assitance in creating a wallpaper for Edubuntu. He helped us create the
spec on the Ubuntu wiki[1], and since then, there have been a bunch of
submissions on the Flickr group[2].

From the Edubuntu side we're happy to have received those submissions,
but there weren't many submissions that fitted the specification well.
We'll be happy to include some of those wallpapers in the system and
feature them in the wallpaper chooser, and thank the contributors for
their work.

Martin Owens (doctormo) said that he's willing to put some dedicated
work into an Edubuntu wallpaper and can do a few concepts and then
iterations on them. This seems like a better approach than a competition
and might work better for this release.

John, can we close the current commission for wallpaper on the wiki and
list the wallpapers chosen for inclusion? I know there's technically a
month left on that spec's timelines, but I don't think we were that
likely to receive much more submissions anyway.

Thanks to everyone involved, I know this might be a bit of a sensitive
issue but if anyone wants to talk to me about it, feel free to poke me.

-Jonathan

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0006_Edubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper
[2] http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-6/

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Wallpaper

2011-02-16 Thread John Baer
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) 
jonat...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi

 A few months back John Baer approacedh Edubuntu and offered some
 assitance in creating a wallpaper for Edubuntu. He helped us create the
 spec on the Ubuntu wiki[1], and since then, there have been a bunch of
 submissions on the Flickr group[2].

 From the Edubuntu side we're happy to have received those submissions,
 but there weren't many submissions that fitted the specification well.
 We'll be happy to include some of those wallpapers in the system and
 feature them in the wallpaper chooser, and thank the contributors for
 their work.

 Martin Owens (doctormo) said that he's willing to put some dedicated
 work into an Edubuntu wallpaper and can do a few concepts and then
 iterations on them. This seems like a better approach than a competition
 and might work better for this release.

 John, can we close the current commission for wallpaper on the wiki and
 list the wallpapers chosen for inclusion? I know there's technically a
 month left on that spec's timelines, but I don't think we were that
 likely to receive much more submissions anyway.

 Thanks to everyone involved, I know this might be a bit of a sensitive
 issue but if anyone wants to talk to me about it, feel free to poke me.

 -Jonathan

 [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0006_Edubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper
 [2] http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-6/




On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) 
jonat...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi

 A few months back John Baer approacedh Edubuntu and offered some
 assitance in creating a wallpaper for Edubuntu. He helped us create the
 spec on the Ubuntu wiki[1], and since then, there have been a bunch of
 submissions on the Flickr group[2].

 From the Edubuntu side we're happy to have received those submissions,
 but there weren't many submissions that fitted the specification well.
 We'll be happy to include some of those wallpapers in the system and
 feature them in the wallpaper chooser, and thank the contributors for
 their work.

 Martin Owens (doctormo) said that he's willing to put some dedicated
 work into an Edubuntu wallpaper and can do a few concepts and then
 iterations on them. This seems like a better approach than a competition
 and might work better for this release.

 John, can we close the current commission for wallpaper on the wiki and
 list the wallpapers chosen for inclusion? I know there's technically a
 month left on that spec's timelines, but I don't think we were that
 likely to receive much more submissions anyway.

 Thanks to everyone involved, I know this might be a bit of a sensitive
 issue but if anyone wants to talk to me about it, feel free to poke me.

 -Jonathan

 [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0006_Edubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper
 [2] http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-6/


Jonathan,

I am sorry to hear of your decision and I certainly echo my appreciation to
everyone who posted wallpaper submissions.

Please don't feel the need to respond but if I had been asked I would have
suggested Martin add his illustration to the others.

Best of luck with your next release.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Wallpaper

2011-02-16 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
Hi John

On 16/02/11 12:36 PM, John Baer wrote:
 I am sorry to hear of your decision and I certainly echo my appreciation
 to everyone who posted wallpaper submissions. 
 
 Please don't feel the need to respond but if I had been asked I would
 have suggested Martin add his illustration to the others.

I believe Martin did say that you suggested that to him, the problem was
that he (and other artists that I spoke to before) explicitely don't
want to participate in a competition.

Do you think we should still make it a competition for the wallpapers
currently submitted and perhaps only select 3 of them for inclusion on
the disc? That way the most favourite submissions will at least get more
exposure and we can blog about it, etc.

Also, do you think that competition-style selections are the best way to
do things like this? Do you know of any alternatives? It's something
that we'll need to think about for future releases for sure, and it
would be awesome if we could get it right.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-16 Thread Сергей
2011/2/16 Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.com

 About placement, it is placed exactly on the upper virtual edge, like
 side Ubuntu logo, and back tab. And on the right side, it is lined
 with main title tab edge too, so if someone have some suggestion where
 to place it, I'm open for it. To me this current placement seems
 logical.


I think it makes the picture dis-balanced: the upper right corner looks
visually heavy with this addition, and has no counterbalance. In addition,
it breaks the obvious frame of the content zone created by consistent
padding.

I usually label my desktop edition CDs LiveCD, because alternate is not
live and sever is server and doesn't have a livecd at all, so IMO it's
better to use 32bit liveCD instead of 32bit desktop edition and get rid
of any corner labels at all.

Also I've finally figured out what's so annoying on the other side: circled
Ubuntu logo, when put in another circle, looks stupefying. It's also
visually heavier than Tux and GNOME logo the way it is now, so it doesn't
look consistent with them.

Hope this helps make an even better cover.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Wallpaper

2011-02-16 Thread Сергей
Hi Jonathan,

I think closing the contest now is not a good thing to do in a political
sense. Announcing some deadline and then changing it or the rules is really
discouraging. People must be sure of stability. They must be sure that the
rules, specs and the deadline are fixed and won't be changed in the middle
of the contest. They won't participate otherwise. (I know it very well, we
have the same situation with business in our country).

I saw several art competitions, and in all of them the number of submissions
almost doubled during the last week before the deadline. That was outside
the free software community, though.

Also, I can't see why a contest and dedicated work can't go hand to hand.
The dedicated work is out of competition by definition. Just reserve the
place on the CD for it and let the contest go on. I also can't see the point
of including just 3 wallpapers: Ubuntu shipped 18 with Maverick, and I don't
think you have more strict size limit than Ubuntu.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended

2011-02-16 Thread Сергей
Well, the first of February was quite a long time ago, in my time zone at
least :) I wonder where's the winners announcement?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final

2011-02-16 Thread Pumpkin Lord
Thanks for suggestions.

I will play with things you suggested, to see how it's gonna turn out.
About this Live CD thing, maybe it is better to remove it completely.
Content area will look more coherent, that's for sure. Somehow, it's
leftover from some old buggy OSs, to have that little 32-bit mark,
or something, on the upper right corner, so i gues I should get rid of
it. :)

About back icons, that is something I'm not finished (and satisfied)
with yet. I wanted to use some Ubuntu pictograms, with some taglines
added below, but I have no idea which ones would make sense to be
placed on a cover, not to look totally out of place and illogical.

Some suggestions maybe...?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close toFinal

2011-02-16 Thread jjungschlager
You can  consider some document apps logo's
Also a flat gedit cause ubuntu comes with that IDE and notepad in one.
Ubuntu software centre of course and might copyleft something for the Gnome or 
even Gnome key ring art.
And just let the most logical text roll 

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Final

Thanks for suggestions.

I will play with things you suggested, to see how it's gonna turn out.
About this Live CD thing, maybe it is better to remove it completely.
Content area will look more coherent, that's for sure. Somehow, it's
leftover from some old buggy OSs, to have that little 32-bit mark,
or something, on the upper right corner, so i gues I should get rid of
it. :)

About back icons, that is something I'm not finished (and satisfied)
with yet. I wanted to use some Ubuntu pictograms, with some taglines
added below, but I have no idea which ones would make sense to be
placed on a cover, not to look totally out of place and illogical.

Some suggestions maybe...?

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Launching linux os news issue

2011-02-16 Thread Umesh Juwatkar
Dear manish,
whts bad in spreading the news over this list ? Its afterall 1st linux os which 
is purely for it pros n ethical hackers... Nd its too from india, mumbai nd 
from the member of this group ?
Very corrosive mind haan ?
Nahi sudhroge..
Let it be...
Regards...
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   3. 10.04.2 ISO Testing progress report (Jean-Baptiste Lallement)


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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:51:50 +0530
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On 02/14/2011 10:57 PM, Umesh Juwatkar wrote:
 Dear all,
 this is umesh juwatkar, an microsoft and netforensic certified IT 
 professional from mumbai.
 I am glad to announce my 1st professional linux os launching.
 This os will be armed with too many antihacking tools for ethical hackers.
 This os will be launched in march...

Great to see your enthusiasm.

Sadly this list is no way related to your announcement. This isn't a 
list to announce your project

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:23:49 -0600
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Subject: 2011-02-11 Ubuntu Release Meating Minutes
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Overall: Teams are starting into the A3 feature groove :), bug backlog
is still a bit high in some areas. 

Team Summaries:
  * QA: Linux, LibreOffice, and Unity are toping the list of incoming
bugs over last week. 
  * HW Cert: All servers for 11.04 except 1 are now reporting results,
desktop runs not done this week due to hardware relocation. 
  * Bugs under focus: 714829, 695842, 715871 
  * Security: Making progress on work items for Natty, nothing A3
critical 
  * Bugs under focus: bug:344878, bug:712662 (pending doko input),
bug:714908, bug:714958, bug:715874. 
  * Kernel: uploaded two kernels with the latest v2.6.38-3.30
(v2.6.38-rc4 based) with lots of fixes for graphics, now mostly
watching mainline 
  * Bugs under focus: see Kernel team report. 
  * Foundations: btrfs installs now confirmed to work properly again,
Upstart visualisation and interactive boot work 
  * Bugs under focus: made progress this week, switching back to
features for A3 
  * Server: working on awstrial, new openstack snapshot, working on LXC
on openstack, and new packages including Handbreak plugin for mysql.
Eucalyptus still remains to be a problem in Natty. 
  * Bugs under focus: regression showing up with bug:590201, will
provide feedback on above list post meeting. 
  * Desktop: cleanup of A3 WI's in progress, annoying compiz bug about
invisible windows should be fixed now, python-gobject ABI breakage
has been hotfixed, so pygtk apps are running normally again 
  * Bugs under focus: 638827 is blocked on mozilla. 
  * UbuntuOne: shotwell not looking likely for Natty, unity integration
has started, and banshee still needs some work. 
  * Kubuntu: kubuntu mobile mostly working again, libindicate-qt updated
for new API, Qt being built with gcc 4.4 to work around issues with
gcc 4.5 on ARM 
  * Thorny areas that need some focus and/or decisions: 
  * plymouth timing interactions with vesab (kernel, foundations) 
  * Eucalyptus (server) 
  * X - rolling back, or working around? (desktop, arm, kernel) 
  * python 2.6/2.7 vs. 2.7 only? (motu, foundations) 
  * picking up Linaro recent toolchain drop? (arm, foundations,
linaro, kubuntu) 

Action Items:
* [release team] to revisit release freeze date, and its relation to
beta 2 
  * [zul] to provide update on status of server bugs highlighted in
agenda 
  * [wendar] to post resolution on the Python 2.6/2.7 vs Python 2.7
inclusion in Natty 
  * [skaet] follow up with doko after he returns on Linaro toolchain
inclusion.

Full summary and links to logs can be found:

[ubuntu-in] Nessus on Ubuntu 10.04

2011-02-16 Thread Jkhatri

Dear All

is there anyone how has installed/used nessus successfully on ubuntu 
10.04 ???  if yes ... please provide some link to ...documentations help 
, how to


I've managed to installed it and done the following procedure/steps

added a user using sudo /opt/nessus/sbin/nessus-adduser   username 

and tried to start the nessus using sudo /etc/init.d/nessusd start


then nothing happens ...only cursor blinks in terminal


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Re: [ubuntu-in] [FYI] Indian Rupee Symbol “₹” Support In Ubuntu with Keyboard Mapping With “AltGr + 4″ and “India With RupeeSign” Keyboard Layout

2011-02-16 Thread Hardik Dalwadi
 Hi

 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Hardik Dalwadi
 hardik.dalw...@ubuntu.com mailto:hardik.dalw...@ubuntu.com wrote:

    [FYI]
    Indian Rupee Symbol “₹” Support In Ubuntu with Keyboard Mapping With
    “AltGr + 4″ and “India With RupeeSign” Keyboard Layout |

 http://hardik.in/2011/02/16/indian-rupee-symbol-support-in-ubuntu-with-keyboard-mapping-with-altgr-4-and-india-with-rupee-sign-keyboard-layout/


 That is good news -

 however had some questions

 from the article and how to setup  through keyboard prefereces there is
 this point
 Quote
 6. Default tab would be “By Country”, Choose “India” as Country and
 “India With RupeeSign” as variants, it would be last in the list end quote

 At present when we choose india - it would mean the hindi /devnagari script

 So if we choose India with rupee sign keyboard layout  what does it
 mean - apart from the sign. To clarify further - by default i think most
 of us have the US english keyboard as our starting point (and this is a
 keyboard layout that types english) so is the India with rupee keyboard

@ Ram,

Exactly, It's just US International Keyboard Layout with Rupee Symbol
enabled @ 3rd Level, achieved using AltGr + 4. Also you can use this
keyboard layout with any input system. For example if your input system
is Hindi, still it should give same result.

 Will it mean my english keyboard will be similar to the us keyboard layout ??

Yes, as i said above.

 thanks

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Re: [ubuntu-in] [FYI] Indian Rupee Symbol “₹” Support In Ubuntu with Keyboard Mapping With “AltGr + 4″ and “India With RupeeSign” Keyboard Layout

2011-02-16 Thread Ramnarayan.K
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Hardik Dalwadi
hardik.dalw...@ubuntu.comwrote:

 @ Ram,

 Exactly, It's just US International Keyboard Layout with Rupee Symbol
 enabled @ 3rd Level, achieved using AltGr + 4. Also you can use this
 keyboard layout with any input system. For example if your input system
 is Hindi, still it should give same result.

  Will it mean my english keyboard will be similar to the us keyboard
 layout ??

 Yes, as i said above.

 fantastic

is is possible to install this keyboard on 9.10 ??

also congratulations are in order :-)

thanks
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Nessus on Ubuntu 10.04

2011-02-16 Thread Mallikarjun(ಮಲ್ಲಿಕಾರ್ಜುನ್)

On 02/16/2011 03:35 AM, Jkhatri wrote:

Dear All

is there anyone how has installed/used nessus successfully on ubuntu 
10.04 ???  if yes ... please provide some link to ...documentations 
help , how to


I've managed to installed it and done the following procedure/steps

added a user using sudo /opt/nessus/sbin/nessus-adduser   username 

and tried to start the nessus using sudo /etc/init.d/nessusd start


then nothing happens ...only cursor blinks in terminal


[I am a beginner too]
You are on track.
/nessusd/ starts a daemon process, so it is not suppose to do anything 
except waiting for clients request. So you have to issue commands which 
asks server to do something like scanning.

Here is the link, which might be of some use.


   www.*nessus*.org/*documentation*/*nessus*_4.2_user_guide.pdf




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Re: [ubuntu-in] New Linux User's Group: WBUT.LXUG

2011-02-16 Thread Manish Sinha

On 02/16/2011 02:57 AM, PRABIN DATTA wrote:

just want to express the situation. Okay! sorry to everyone.

snip

Thanks to all you for your suggestions!!
But, Waiting for few more suggestion on this.
Thank you!!


Don't have anything to say much except -  creating a product is easier 
than creating a community. Sitting on the internet and sending messages 
doesn't create a user group. You have to physically organize meeting and 
workshops to get people interested.


Creating yet another group does not solve the purpose unless there is 
some concrete reasons. If you want to help out people, why don't you use 
NIT-Durgapur LUG (if you want proximity). Or ask them to come on 
##linux-india on irc.freenode.net


I have to say that in India apart from regional LUGs, there is hardly 
any mailing lists for distro agnostic discussion.



 Ya! Group shouldn't be bounded to any Distribution like fedora, 
Ubuntu, etc.


I don't find any killer advantage in this. Surely it does help in 
bringing people closer, but after a certain period, the interest might 
fade as people who use Distribution X might find that most of the 
questions are for distro X and Z.
Group shouldn't be found to any distro is idealism. Apart from LUGs 
groups bound to distro are more successful(dont have stats, but personal 
experience). Yes this is sad truth.


Groups independent of distro is good idea, but groups bound to distros 
are not evil.


I have seen many groups come and go, and learnt the hard way - Be a part 
of bigger group and advance it's growth. Or create Local LUG to promote 
FOSS at grassroots level.



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Re: [ubuntu-in] [FYI] Indian Rupee Symbol “₹” Support In Ubuntu with Keyboard Mapping With “AltGr + 4″ and “India With RupeeSign” Keyboard Layout

2011-02-16 Thread Narendra Diwate
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Hardik Dalwadi
hardik.dalw...@ubuntu.comwrote:


 @ Ram,

 Exactly, It's just US International Keyboard Layout with Rupee Symbol
 enabled @ 3rd Level, achieved using AltGr + 4. Also you can use this
 keyboard layout with any input system. For example if your input system
 is Hindi, still it should give same result.

  Will it mean my english keyboard will be similar to the us keyboard
 layout ??

 Yes, as i said above.


That's great news and thanks for the link and clarification.
If this may not be considered OT, may I ask how this can be done in Non
Ubuntu but fully Debian based systems.

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Défi à toute la francophonie des spécialistes de Linux...

2011-02-16 Thread Lami René

Le 2011-02-07 05:52, Franck Lavis - Micro38 Informatique a écrit :

Salut René

en parlant de défi: ton mail est déjà un défi à la langue française. 
Si nous étions dans une dictature francophile, tu serais déjà dans un 
goulag de reconditionnement orthographique et grammatical. Mais t'as 
du bol, écrire n'importe comment n'est pas répréhensible devant la Loi.

Salut Franck,

J'ai cette lacune !
Mais plus sérieusement, c'est troll day même le lundi chez toi, ou 
tu penses réellement que ne pas avoir d'outil de defrag est un frein à 
l'utilisation de Linux par les windowsiens???
Ce n'est pas ce que j'ai écrit. En résumé, j'écris qu'un outil de 
défragmentation de partition NTFS manque au coffre d'outils déjà très 
bien garni de Linux.
J'ai déjà lu pas mal de bêtises mais celle-là, comme disait ma 
grand-mère en admirant les matelots dans la rade de Toulon: c'est le 
pompon !
J'ai installé pas mal de PC sous Linux à des débutants, on ne m'a 
jamais parlé de souci pour absence d'outil de defragmentation, et, 
quand bien même, il suffirait de leur expliquer pourquoi ils ne 
servent à rien sur un système de fichier adéquat (EXT). Par contre, 
nombreux sont intéressés puis attirés par le fait qu'il n'y ai PAS 
BESOIN d'ANTIVIRUS. Ça pour des windowsiens de longue date, c'est un 
grand choc ! :)
Alors, le même principe vaut pour la défragmentation, c'est un grand 
choc pour les 5 % de l'autre monde qui se préoccupent de la fragmentation.

...
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Défi à toute la francophonie des spécialistes de Linux...

2011-02-16 Thread Lami René

Le 2011-02-07 09:59, Hendrik Erik Spigt a écrit :

Bonjour à tous,

Tout le monde n'est pas francophone de naissance, et  tous les 
francophones ne vivent pas en France.


Le plus important sur cette liste est de se faire comprendre 
clairement, et quoi que j'essaye d'éviter les slogans dans une autre 
langue, ils éclairent parfois de façon originale ce que le rédacteur 
désire faire passer comme message.


Heureusement la plupart d'entre nous ont le privilège de vivre dans 
des parties du  monde ou la liberté d'expression n'est pas totalement 
déniée, alors admirons le courage de ceux dont le Français n'est peut 
être pas la langue maternelle, d'oser s'exprimer ici dans cette langue 
et de partager avec nous leurs opinions, au risque de rater une bonne 
idée.


Bonne continuation à ubuntu.fr http://ubuntu.fr

Hendrik

Bonjour Hendrik,

Merci pour ces commentaires empreints de compréhension !

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Défi à toute la francophonie des spécialistes de Linux...

2011-02-16 Thread Lami René

Le 2011-02-08 06:18, Cédric Dupont a écrit :

Bonjour,

Je vais moi aussi m'ajouter à la déjà conséquente liste de ceux qui ce
sont dit 100% Linux. Mon épouse en CAO est passé sur Linux, mes
parents sont sous Ubuntu depuis la première version (et avant sous
Debian, ma facon de ne pas venir toutes les semaines à cause de
plantages et autres virus), un de mes frères y est passé il y a 2 ans,
et puis quelques amis (merci Vista)
Et pour le boulot forcément à 200%.

Pour ce qui est d'un défragmentateur sous Linux, je suis de l'avis que
c'est inutile. On peut lire un disque NTFS et en récupérer les infos
même quand Windows a du mal (pour référence, le magazine Capital
dimanche dernier présentait LaCie qui récupère les données de ses
clients par un simple copier-coller sous Nautilus alors que pour le
client le disque devait être malade, bravo Windows) Ca c'est un vrai
plus.

Bonjour Cédric,

Ton exemple démontre aussi qu'il ne manque pas grand-chose à Linux pour 
avoir un outil de défragmentation.

Pour cohabiter avec Windows on a samba pour les partages (et pas
besoin d'avoir une partition en NTFS encore heureux), je vois pas
l'utilité de mettre une partition NTFS d'un disque interne ou un Linux
écrit (le double boot c'est inutile à l'époque de la virtualisation
démocratisée)
J'ai un point de vue différent sur le sujet. Tous mes ordinateurs ont 
les deux systèmes et toutes mes données sont sur une partition de 
partage et en NTFS pour que les deux systèmes puissent les éditer. Pas 
de réseau local, question de compétences et de sécurités.

Linux ne doit pas être la copie de ce qui existe sous Windows, ca doit
être mieux, plus facile, plus joli et plus rapide. Pas besoin
d'antivirus, pas besoin de défragmentateur dans la même optique c'est
mieux que de dire oui on a un défragmenteur mais que pour les disques
Windows les futurs convertis vont s'y perdre.

Voilà

Cédric
Sous Linux, un outil de défragmentation au même titre qu'un antivirus, 
pas plus, pas moins.


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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Défi à toute la francophonie des spécialistes de Linux...

2011-02-16 Thread Lami René

Le 2011-02-08 10:54, Avell Diroll a écrit :

On 06/02/11 20:48, Lami René wrote:
(snip)
...
Mes 2 centimes sur le sujet:

- le NTFS est un système de fichier propriétaire, dont les 
spécifications sont interdites à toute personne qui souhaite en 
développer une interface libre … ce qui complique énormément ce genre 
de projet (nécessité de retro-ingénierie et tout le toutim) … il y a 
des raisons pour lesquelles la defragmentation n'est pas encore 
disponible dans les distros.


- il y a déjà des projets avec ce genre d'objectifs en cours (la page 
de ntfsprogs à tout un laïus sur la défragmentation si mes souvenirs 
sont bons). il serait plus utile de contacter ces projets avant de 
lancer un appel.

Bonjour Ju,

Merci pour les informations et tes commentaires !
- se limiter à la francophonie pour un projet de développement est 
amha une erreur. Par essence, la programmation est une activité 
nécessitant la pratique de l'anglais, c'est pourquoi 99.99% des 
projets libres de développement se font autour d'une communauté 
anglophone … qui s'internationalise par la suite en fonction des besoins.
De l'anglais à « 99.99% », c'est pour bien des unilingues francophones 
et autres langues un frein pour s'intégrer dans un projet et dans les 
faits, c'est mon cas !
- cette mailing list n'est pas l'endroit ou poster ce genre de choses, 
c'est une mailing list d'utilisateurs, pas de dev, il va donc y avoir 
peu de gens concernés par ce genre de considérations. (demander à 
d'autres de relayer son message sans donner une structure à son projet 
est également une erreur … ce n'est qu'une bouteille à la mer sans 
adresse de retour)...
Je retiens les deux messages « list d'utilisateurs, pas de dev » et « 
demander à d'autres de relayer », je m'en excuse.


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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Défi à toute la francophonie des spécialistes de Linux...

2011-02-16 Thread Lami René

Le 2011-02-07 14:54, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre a écrit :

2011/2/6 Lami Renél...@webestrie.com:
[...]

successives, mais les gros fichiers vidéo ou images ISO entre 200 Mo et 4.2
Go restent très fractionnés, malgré que les partitions de 160 Go ont au
minimum 60 Go de libres.

Quelle taille de cluster à été utilisée? Il s'agit là d'une donnée
essentielle qui peut grandement affecter les résultats.

Bonjour Mathieu,

C'est variable, car contrairement aux autres partitions, la partition 
d'échange en NTFS est déterminée par ce qui reste de libre après toutes 
les autres. Approximativement de 100 Go à 375 Go. Voici deux exemples 
avec les infos que me donne PartionManager et mount :
Partition 375 Go, Cylindres : 60801, Secteurs : 63, Secteurs totaux : 
976773168, Taille secteur : 512, Tailler de cylindre : 16,065, blksize=4096.
Partition 169 Go, Cylindres : 30401, Secteurs : 63, Secteurs totaux : 
488397168, Taille secteur : 512, Tailler de cylindre : 16,065, blksize=4096.


Je ne suis pas sur de l'appellation, est-ce que mes « cluster » sont de 
512 ou de 4096 ?

[...]

Mes partitions de partage des données sont fragmentées à au moins 60 % sur
tous les systèmes ! J'ai utilisé PC-Cloneur 8 et Acronis True Image 2010
avec les mêmes résultats.

Et s'agit-t-il de tout plein de petits fichiers, ou que des gros? Un mélange?
C'est un très bon mélange de tous les formats, de 2 à 5 ISO de ±4 Go, 
300 à 500 Vidéos de ±300 Mo et au minimum plus de 100,000 petites images 
png et autres fichiers de 1 à 10 Ko. À cela s'ajoutent toutes les 
tailles, mais en nombres moins significatifs.

[...]

J'ai fait d'innombrables essais et le dernier en cours est de formater un
disque dur USB qui était en NTFS en ext4 pour détruire complètement la table
d'allocation des fichiers, pour ensuite la reformater en NTFS et y copier
les dossiers et fichiers de ma partition de partage des données
(Windows-Linux) avec GRsync (entre 3 et 7 heures de transfère selon
l'ordi.). Si cela ne fonctionne pas, je pense formater sur disque USB, ma
partition de partage NTFS en Ext4 temporairement, y copier les dossiers et
fichiers et avec GParted ou PartionManager, recréer la table de partions
NTFS de synchronisation d'un disque d'un ordinateur, mais tout cela est très
lourd et prend énormément de temps et de ressources. Ce n'est vraiment pas
pratique.

En principe, ca devrait fonctionner plus ou moins bien, mais il y aura
toujours un certain niveau de fragmentation. En partie à cause de ce
que j'ai mentionné plus haut, mais aussi par le design du système de
fichier, de la taille des fichiers, etc. À ne pas oublier que les
systèmes d'accès NTFS sont créés à partir des spécifications du
système de fichiers fournies par Microsoft, et donc, entièrement à la
merci de l'exactitude de ces spécifications. ...
J'ai arrêté d'utiliser True Image, pour tenter d'isoler le problème et 
il semble quand partie, il faisait partie du problème. J'ai utilisé « 
contigu.exe » pour défragmenter les plus gros fichiers et les plus 
fractionnés.


Pour mes derniers tests je n'utilisais que GRSync, PartionManager ou 
GParted pour la création de la table de partition et le formatage en 
NTFS, donc le tout était fait sous Linux Kubuntu 10.10 32 bits.


Actuellement, pour une même partition, l'analyse Windows XP me donne 4 % 
de fragmentation et l'analyse Windows 7 me donne 2 %. Dans tous les cas, 
Windows 7 me donne 50 % moins de pourcentage de fractionnement.


Sous les 10 % de fractionnement, cela ne me cause pas de soucis.

Une autre partie du problème, mais qui n'était pas liée à celui de la 
fragmentation, mais à l'intégrité de mes données transférées provenait 
de la configuration de GRSync.


Voici mes configurations de RSync (avec ou sans GRSync) :


#!/bin/bash
rsync -r -t -p -o -g -x -v --progress --delete -l -D -i 
--stats  /   
/media/SG320-sda3/ # Partition Ext3 Racines.
rsync -r -t -p -o -g -x -v --progress --delete -l -D -i 
--stats  /home/
/media/SG320-sda5/ # Partition Ext3 Homes.
rsync -r -t -x -v --progress --delete --modify-window=1 -l -D -i --stats 
/home/rene/sda6/ /media/SG320-sda6/ # Partition NTFD Données.
rsync -r -t -x -v --progress --delete --modify-window=1 -l -D -i --stats 
/home/rene/sda1/ /media/SG320-sda1/ # Partition NTFD Windows.


# Remplacement des paramètres de la version courte à la version longue 
(ex. : « -r » est remplacé par « --recursive ») :
#rsync --recursive --times --perms --owner --group --one-file-system 
--verbose --progress --delete --links --devices --itemize-changes 
--stats / /media/SG320-sda3/



J'ai testé et vérifié le bon fonctionnement dans les deux sens et 
toujours sous Linux (en exportation et en importation) et à chaud 
(système en cours d'utilisation) et le tout fonctionnent parfaitement, 
l'intégrité des données et l'intégrité des systèmes d'exploitations 
Linux et Windows 7 et XP.


Pour un 

Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Festival Geek de Montréal - 5 6 mars 2011 au Coeur des Sciences de l?UQAM

2011-02-16 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
2011/2/15 Martin Gamache martin.gama...@gmail.com:
 En fait, Mathieu, y aura-t-il autre chose que des vendeurs de bd/manga/plush
 et autres bébelles à ce geekfest?  En tant que Geek informatique, je risque
 de me sentir pas mal seul là-dedans...   Je suis peut-être chiche, je veux
 bien aider à populariser Ubuntu (ce que je fais déjà autour de moi), mais
 franchement payer 12 balles pour un événement que selon toute vraisemblance
 je n'aurais pas envie de voir...



Y'aura au moins devLAB: http://devlabmtl.org/

Je connais pas trop, mais ca m'intéresse.

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Festival Geek de Montréal - 5 6 mars 2011 au Coeur des Sciences de l’UQAM

2011-02-16 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
C'est suffisant.

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2011/2/16 Martin Gamache martin.gama...@gmail.com:
 Bon, je vais venir tout de même, on verra ce que c'est...  À part mon
 illustre personne, mon ordi, ma bonne humeur et possiblement la tablette
 Android que j'attends, qu'est-ce que j'apporte?

 Le 16 février 2011 10:12, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre mathieu...@gmail.com a
 écrit :

 2011/2/15 Martin Gamache martin.gama...@gmail.com:
  À quoi servent les frais d'inscription?  J'aimerais quand même savoir,
  vu
  que je prévois être là pour donner un coup de main, pas faire du sight
  seeing! ;)
 

 Je ne suis pas certain des détails. Je te dirais que le mieux serait
 de poser la question sur le site en commentaire...

 J'imagine qu'il s'agit des frais pour l'organisation, location de
 locaux, de matériel (tables, chaises, autres), ce genre de chose. À
 noter qu'il y aura beaucoup d'autres trucs que Linux sur place, y
 compris des consoles de jeux, si j'en crois l'an dernier. Les consoles
 sont peut-être louées?

 Je crois qu'on se doit quand même de faire notre part pour
 encourager ce genre d'événement lorsque ca fait du sens, et dans mon
 cas, je compte quand même prendre quelques minutes pour faire le tour,
 alors je contribuerai ;)

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Festival Geek de Montréal - 5 6 mars 2011 au Coeur des Sciences de l’UQAM

2011-02-16 Thread Christian Parent
Des Tim bits ? ;p

Le 2011-02-16 11:59, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre mathieu...@gmail.com a
écrit :

 C'est suffisant.

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 2011/2/16 Martin Gamache martin.gama...@gmail.com:
  Bon, je vais venir tout de même, on verra ce que c'est...  À part mon
  illustre personne, mon ordi, ma bonne humeur et possiblement la tablette
  Android que j'attends, qu'est-ce que j'apporte?
 
  Le 16 février 2011 10:12, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre mathieu...@gmail.com
a
  écrit :
 
  2011/2/15 Martin Gamache martin.gama...@gmail.com:
   À quoi servent les frais d'inscription?  J'aimerais quand même
savoir,
   vu
   que je prévois être là pour donner un coup de main, pas faire du
sight
   seeing! ;)
  
 
  Je ne suis pas certain des détails. Je te dirais que le mieux serait
  de poser la question sur le site en commentaire...
 
  J'imagine qu'il s'agit des frais pour l'organisation, location de
  locaux, de matériel (tables, chaises, autres), ce genre de chose. À
  noter qu'il y aura beaucoup d'autres trucs que Linux sur place, y
  compris des consoles de jeux, si j'en crois l'an dernier. Les consoles
  sont peut-être louées?
 
  Je crois qu'on se doit quand même de faire notre part pour
  encourager ce genre d'événement lorsque ca fait du sens, et dans mon
  cas, je compte quand même prendre quelques minutes pour faire le tour,
  alors je contribuerai ;)
 
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[ubuntu-uk] Network traffic monitor that only monitors extra-LAN traffic?

2011-02-16 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
I'm currently using NTM to monitor internet usage. Unfortunately, it 
includes ALL trafic through the wireless card, whether it's inside the 
LAN or outside!
Is there any monitor available (preferably with visual display) that I 
can set to monitor only network traffic that is outside my LAN?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Network traffic monitor that only monitors extra-LANtraffic?

2011-02-16 Thread bodsda
Hi Gordon,

You'll probably need a proxy to capture that info, perhaps look at 'squid' proxy

Bodsda
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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Network traffic monitor that only monitors extra-LAN
traffic?

I'm currently using NTM to monitor internet usage. Unfortunately, it 
includes ALL trafic through the wireless card, whether it's inside the 
LAN or outside!
Is there any monitor available (preferably with visual display) that I 
can set to monitor only network traffic that is outside my LAN?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Network traffic monitor that only monitors extra-LANtraffic?

2011-02-16 Thread Jon Spriggs
Consider something like Ntop.
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On 16 February 2011 10:46, bod...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Gordon,

 You'll probably need a proxy to capture that info, perhaps look at 'squid'
 proxy

 Bodsda
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 To: UK Ubuntu Talkubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Reply-To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Network traffic monitor that only monitors extra-LAN
traffic?

 I'm currently using NTM to monitor internet usage. Unfortunately, it
 includes ALL trafic through the wireless card, whether it's inside the
 LAN or outside!
 Is there any monitor available (preferably with visual display) that I
 can set to monitor only network traffic that is outside my LAN?

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[ubuntu-uk] A friendly hello...

2011-02-16 Thread Hassan Haz Williamson
Hey everyone,

I've finally signed up to the mailing list and thought I'd say hi to
everyone... hi. :)

Suppose I should introduce myself, my name is Hassan Williamson, some of you
may know me from IRC as HazRPG or Haz, but Haz should suffice. :)

I'm a Cumbria lad, that's really into learning all about the wonders of
Linux; I'm also a competent coder in HTML/CSS/PHP/JavaScript. I do mess
around with other languages like C++/Python/Java, but web development is my
main thing.

I'm currently 23, and doing a top-up year in Computing to make my HND a full
degree. I'm having a few issues with that (transport/money/etc), but
hopefully everything will run smoothly in the end.

I have a few projects I would like to start at some point, but it will have
to wait until I really have the time to devote to them. Who knows, maybe
some of you may even join me one day :). Especially since I would like them
to be open-sourced so that everyone can benefit from them.

I'll spare you all the details of my life, and will end by saying that I
hope to speak/see you guys around sometime and hope that I can contribute
something as best I can to the lovely community we are all part of.


Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] A friendly hello...

2011-02-16 Thread Barry Drake
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 10:55 +, Hassan Haz Williamson wrote:

 I've finally signed up to the mailing list and thought I'd say hi to
 everyone... hi. :)

Hi Haz.  Good to see you.  Welcome!  Maybe you could take a look at what
the Advertising team is getting up to.  You might be interested in
dropping in there for a chat if you're enthusiastic about Ubuntu.

Regards,Barry.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Network traffic monitor that only monitors extra-LANtraffic?

2011-02-16 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 16/02/11 10:52, Jon Spriggs wrote:

Consider something like Ntop.


Wow! That is some app. Going to take me a while to work out how to use 
THAT properly..


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] A friendly hello...

2011-02-16 Thread Hassan Haz Williamson
Hi Barry,

Why thank you :). I'm having a quick browse of the website now, so I might
just do that.


Regards,
Haz


On 16 February 2011 11:23, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote:

 Hi Haz.  Good to see you.  Welcome!  Maybe you could take a look at what
 the Advertising team is getting up to.  You might be interested in
 dropping in there for a chat if you're enthusiastic about Ubuntu.

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[ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Dave Hanson

I sure you can tell from the subject where this is going :)

I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online 
storage solution is and why, I ask because I am struggling to find one 
suitable for Ubuntu, here's what I have tried;


- Ubuntu One (obviously)

The main issue with this for me is that it seems to be ALWAYS doing 
something in the background even if there is nothing to sync, and when 
it does do the syncing it's so slw. I'm not moving huge files around 
but some are a good few MB in size and a the cluttered directory 
structure I use accompanied with the large amount of small files just 
don't seem to be suited as it can take an absolute age for the browser 
based version of Ubuntu One to correspond to what my local folder 
contains once I have moved something around or added to the folder.


- Spider Oak

It seemed ideal at first as I study at University, Spider Oak boasts 
that it will automatically backup my files each time I save and keep a 
copy for me at no cost to my storage limit, excellent? Not quite, the 
backup of the files is true but the use of space is not, and I have 
already run out of my allowance. You can download the files from their 
site, but you cannot then upload!? - odd. (well, it seems odd to me 
anyway?) The uploads/syncing also seems to be a lot quicker than One.


- Sky Drive/Live Mesh (I know it's a bit taboo talking about MS here, 
apologies in advance)


The best I have tried in my opinion, fast syncing  uploads, didn't seem 
to be doing a huge about in the background wasting resources and the Sky 
Drive also comes with 25GB of online storage, The drive can also be 
mounted to windows so it seems like a standard drive. shame it can't be 
ran on Ubuntu as I have recently made the permanent 'switch' and 
abandoned Windows all together.


So that concludes my (very) shortlist and my experiences, And as I say 
I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online 
storage solution is and why.


Thanks Everybody.





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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 16/02/11 11:36, Dave Hanson wrote:

I sure you can tell from the subject where this is going :)

I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online
storage solution is and why, I ask because I am struggling to find one
suitable for Ubuntu, here's what I have tried;


I'm very fond of Dropbox.

It has many clients. For me Ubuntu and Android are important so I can 
keep stuff in sync between laptops and phones.


It's easy to use and set up.

You get 2GB for free and can pay for more as you need it. (You also get 
storage top ups for referrals HINT HINT ;-)


It works and I really don't notice it having any adverse impact on my 
devices.


HTH

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Network traffic monitor that only monitors extra-LANtraffic?

2011-02-16 Thread Jon Spriggs
With great power comes... erm, great complexity? :)

Basically, it's just a list of what's accessing and being accessed by your
NIC. You can filter stuff out from there, but to be fair, it's been a while
since I used it!
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On 16 February 2011 11:27, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 16/02/11 10:52, Jon Spriggs wrote:

 Consider something like Ntop.


 Wow! That is some app. Going to take me a while to work out how to use THAT
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 February 2011 11:36, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online storage
 solution is and why,

Dropbox because it's cross platform, just works, is easy to install
and integrates with the shell on each machine. I use it on Ubuntu,
Windows, OSX, iPhone, iPad and Android. Love it.

And if you sign up using this link we both get a bonus :D

https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTE3MDQ5MTk

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 16 February 2011 11:36, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

 I sure you can tell from the subject where this is going :)

 I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online storage
 solution is and why, I ask because I am struggling to find one suitable for
 Ubuntu, here's what I have tried;

 - Ubuntu One (obviously)

 The main issue with this for me is that it seems to be ALWAYS doing
 something in the background even if there is nothing to sync, and when it
 does do the syncing it's so slw. I'm not moving huge files around but
 some are a good few MB in size and a the cluttered directory structure I use
 accompanied with the large amount of small files just don't seem to be
 suited as it can take an absolute age for the browser based version of
 Ubuntu One to correspond to what my local folder contains once I have moved
 something around or added to the folder.

 - Spider Oak

 It seemed ideal at first as I study at University, Spider Oak boasts that
 it will automatically backup my files each time I save and keep a copy for
 me at no cost to my storage limit, excellent? Not quite, the backup of the
 files is true but the use of space is not, and I have already run out of my
 allowance. You can download the files from their site, but you cannot then
 upload!? - odd. (well, it seems odd to me anyway?) The uploads/syncing also
 seems to be a lot quicker than One.

 - Sky Drive/Live Mesh (I know it's a bit taboo talking about MS here,
 apologies in advance)

 The best I have tried in my opinion, fast syncing  uploads, didn't seem to
 be doing a huge about in the background wasting resources and the Sky Drive
 also comes with 25GB of online storage, The drive can also be mounted to
 windows so it seems like a standard drive. shame it can't be ran on Ubuntu
 as I have recently made the permanent 'switch' and abandoned Windows all
 together.

 So that concludes my (very) shortlist and my experiences, And as I say I'm
 particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online storage
 solution is and why.


I've used JungleDisk for a couple of years and it's cheap and reliable. The
client is cross-platform (it's FUSE based on Linux and Mac) and you just pay
for the storage that you use. When it started it was Amazon S3 based but
it's owned by Rackspace now so it's probably based on their Cloudfiles
service.

Dropbox is also good, more so because it's also available on phones as well
as PCs, but I tend to use that for files that I need available everywhere
rather than backups.

I've had a look at Ubuntu One recently but I'm not keen on the proprietary
aspects, or its lack of support for Mac as yet. The additional services
aren't that compelling either.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Hassan Haz Williamson
Doh! Al, you beat me to it!

Dave, I use Dropbox too. Again, like Al said earlier main reason is because
I can sync up with various different O/S's and also my android phone. Web
interface is great too when you don't have access to any of your machines
(e.g. at a friends house, and wanted to show them something).

I find the revert to older version feature great too, and unlike Spider
Oak, doesn't actually use up your allocated space - which is great. You
don't know how many times that has saved me!

And yeah, you start up at 2GB, and slowly can get up to 2.5GB if you follow
the tour at the start - and can get even more if you refer it to other
people. It integrates nicely in Ubuntu and Windows, and I do believe they
use to have a portable app too (not sure if it's still being updated
however!).


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 16/02/11 11:36, Dave Hanson wrote:

I sure you can tell from the subject where this is going :)

I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online 
storage solution is and why, I ask because I am struggling to find one 
suitable for Ubuntu, here's what I have tried;


- Ubuntu One (obviously)

The main issue with this for me is that it seems to be ALWAYS doing 
something in the background even if there is nothing to sync, and when 
it does do the syncing it's so slw. I'm not moving huge files 
around but some are a good few MB in size and a the cluttered 
directory structure I use accompanied with the large amount of small 
files just don't seem to be suited as it can take an absolute age for 
the browser based version of Ubuntu One to correspond to what my local 
folder contains once I have moved something around or added to the 
folder.


- Spider Oak

It seemed ideal at first as I study at University, Spider Oak boasts 
that it will automatically backup my files each time I save and keep a 
copy for me at no cost to my storage limit, excellent? Not quite, the 
backup of the files is true but the use of space is not, and I have 
already run out of my allowance. You can download the files from their 
site, but you cannot then upload!? - odd. (well, it seems odd to me 
anyway?) The uploads/syncing also seems to be a lot quicker than One.


- Sky Drive/Live Mesh (I know it's a bit taboo talking about MS here, 
apologies in advance)


The best I have tried in my opinion, fast syncing  uploads, didn't 
seem to be doing a huge about in the background wasting resources and 
the Sky Drive also comes with 25GB of online storage, The drive can 
also be mounted to windows so it seems like a standard drive. shame it 
can't be ran on Ubuntu as I have recently made the permanent 'switch' 
and abandoned Windows all together.


So that concludes my (very) shortlist and my experiences, And as I say 
I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online 
storage solution is and why.


Thanks Everybody.



No-one's mentioned Googledocs - certainly the cheapest option (£5 per 
anuum) for 20GB apart from Skydrive. OO and LO also have an extension 
that allows you to open and save documents directly from Googledocs...No 
synching or automated backup though.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Hassan Haz Williamson
Wow, clearly I'm slow at typing _!
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Vince Marsters
My preference is Dropbox because of the multiple applications which
allow me to sync Ubuntu, Windows, Windows Mobile (do not use any more)
and Android with each other, along with the ability to create a custom
link to specific files for sharing out. With the Dropbox sync, all data
is encrypted in the Amazon cloud but it is intelligent enough to know if
the same file already exists on the server and not need to upload this.
The latest desktop clients also have lansync and selective sync
functionality to reduce WAN overhead.

 The downside is the 2Gb free space but so far I have only needed just
over 1Gb.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 16/02/11 11:45, Alan Pope wrote:


Dropbox because it's cross platform, just works, is easy to install
and integrates with the shell on each machine. I use it on Ubuntu,
Windows, OSX, iPhone, iPad and Android. Love it.

And if you sign up using this link we both get a bonus :D



http://db.tt/doqCXhM



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 16 February 2011 11:45, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
 On 16 February 2011 11:36, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online storage
 solution is and why,

 Dropbox because it's cross platform, just works, is easy to install
 and integrates with the shell on each machine. I use it on Ubuntu,
 Windows, OSX, iPhone, iPad and Android. Love it.

 And if you sign up using this link we both get a bonus :D


I'd agree with the Alans (and now everyone else!) on Dropbox.

I have never been able to get U1 working after re-installing my work
laptop - an early beta did work on that machine, but it won't set up
properly now even when I try without a proxy server in the way.

I'm going to take a look at JungleDisk for my backups though...

Neil.

P.S. does anyone know if the iPod/iPhone app copies everything to that
device? I've got a lot of files on Dropbox and I only want a couple on
my iPod...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 February 2011 11:56, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote:
 P.S. does anyone know if the iPod/iPhone app copies everything to that
 device? I've got a lot of files on Dropbox and I only want a couple on
 my iPod...


It don't think it copies anything locally, but reads files as you open them.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Dave Hanson

On 16/02/11 11:45, ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:

1.  A friendly hello... (Hassan Haz Williamson)
2. Re:  A friendly hello... (Barry Drake)
3. Re:  Network traffic monitor that only monitors
   extra-LANtraffic? (Gordon Burgess-Parker)
4. Re:  A friendly hello... (Hassan Haz Williamson)
5.  Preferred online storage solution? (Dave Hanson)
6. Re:  Preferred online storage solution? (Alan Lord (News))
7. Re:  Network traffic monitor that only monitors
   extra-LANtraffic? (Jon Spriggs)
8. Re:  Preferred online storage solution? (Simon Greenwood)
Firstly, Hello and welcome to Haz. If you need a hand with anything or 
fancy a chat about Ubuntu your definitely in the right place. (and I 
can't type as quick as this lot eitherso don't worry :) )


@Al - Thanks for that it sounds like my cup of tea really, I'll give 
your link a try ;) . (now don't shout for the daft question) but, I'm 
sure I can run dropbox and spider oak along side each other with no 
issues whilst I 'shop' around?


@Simon - I've honestly never heard of that one, Ideally I would like a 
free service so I will give drop box a try first and see how i get on, I 
noticed it isn't very much money too use though and so it may still be 
the right choice for me for backups.


@Everyone - Thanks a lot, your all really helpful, it's very much 
appreciated.








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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread A J Binnie
On 16 February 2011 11:36, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:


 So that concludes my (very) shortlist and my experiences, And as I say I'm
 particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online storage
 solution is and why.

 I swear by Dropbox. Apart from the initial 2GB storage, I've managed to get
an extra few MB from referrals. Going to www.dropbox.com/free and simply
promoting the service via Facebook and Twitter gets you extra space too. I
took part in their recent Dropquest, which also earned me some additional
space. All the extras now add up to a total of 3.9GB.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 16/02/11 12:05, Dave Hanson wrote:


@Al - Thanks for that it sounds like my cup of tea really, I'll give
your link a try ;) . (now don't shout for the daft question) but, I'm
sure I can run dropbox and spider oak along side each other with no
issues whilst I 'shop' around?



NP Dave. I have no idea as I'd not heard of Spider Oak before but I'd be 
*more* surprised if they couldn't co-exist though.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 February 2011 12:05, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 @Al - Thanks for that it sounds like my cup of tea really, I'll give your
 link a try ;) . (now don't shout for the daft question) but, I'm sure I can
 run dropbox and spider oak along side each other with no issues whilst I
 'shop' around?


Yup, you can.

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[ubuntu-uk] Test drive and V-Box ..

2011-02-16 Thread Barry Drake
Hi there   Someone (was it you Alan C?) suggested TestDrive as an
easy way of doing regular tests on the Alpha Natty.  I've been trying
TestDrive with VirtualBox as the engine.  Nice idea!  BUT, behaviour is
very different from running a CD.  At the moment, I have the well
reported problem with Compiz/Unity not being compatible with Nouveau.
Now, if I boot from the CD, I can see the Unity interface, but there are
a few known problems, and it's easy to crash Compiz.  If I run the same
ISO through TestDrive, Compiz crashes at boot time, and Natty defaults
to the Gnome desktop.

Any thoughts?

Incidentally, I love the Unity desktop   (Barry dons tin-hat).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Dave Hanson
Just to let you know, I'm already up and running, already uploaded 50% 
(just under 2gb of stuff) and already loving it.


-- DOUBLE THUMBS UP --

Thanks Again Everyone, It's a brilliant recommendation.

P.S - Doesn't it integrate well with Ubuntu, I wasn't expecting that!



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test drive and V-Box ..

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 February 2011 12:22, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote:
 Hi there   Someone (was it you Alan C?) suggested TestDrive as an
 easy way of doing regular tests on the Alpha Natty.

If it weren't for the fact that Natty needs 3D for the Unity desktop,
which you won't get out of the box booting a CD on
Testdrive/Virtualbox.

  I've been trying
 TestDrive with VirtualBox as the engine.  Nice idea!  BUT, behaviour is
 very different from running a CD.

Due to the VirtualBox extensions not being present. Have you tried
doing the install inside virtualbox and then adding the extensions,
then rebooting the VM?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Hassan Haz Williamson
@Neil, It only downloads the files as you select them. However I don't think
it permanently stays on your device - it sort of gets cached on access and
then purged away after x days I think. I usually use an file explorer of
some sort and move them to a more permanent location if needed.

@Dave, Thanks :). I've been hanging out in #ubuntu-uk on and off for years,
only really started being more frequent on it really. Also thought finally
joining the mailing list would be a good plan too :).


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 16/02/11 12:23, Dave Hanson wrote:
Just to let you know, I'm already up and running, already uploaded 50% 
(just under 2gb of stuff) and already loving it.


-- DOUBLE THUMBS UP --

Thanks Again Everyone, It's a brilliant recommendation.

P.S - Doesn't it integrate well with Ubuntu, I wasn't expecting that!



So what did you choose?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Hassan Haz Williamson
@Dave, Hehe, enjoy :). As you can probably tell, a majority of us have been
for a while. I don't think we'd all suggest it if it didn't integrate nicely
into ubuntu. :P


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Hassan Haz Williamson
@Gordon, I think he has. :P


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 16/02/11 12:31, Hassan Haz Williamson wrote:

@Gordon, I think he has. :P


Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Dave Hanson

On 16/02/11 12:29, ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:

On 16/02/11 12:23, Dave Hanson wrote:

  Just to let you know, I'm already up and running, already uploaded 50%
  (just under 2gb of stuff) and already loving it.

  -- DOUBLE THUMBS UP --

  Thanks Again Everyone, It's a brilliant recommendation.

  P.S - Doesn't it integrate well with Ubuntu, I wasn't expecting that!


So what did you choose?

Sorry - Drop Box.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Hassan Haz Williamson
@Gordon, I think he's gone with Dropbox. Considering someone in IRC just
said they got more space now. :P


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread azmodie
On 16 February 2011 12:41, Hassan Haz Williamson h...@hazrpg.co.uk wrote:
 @Gordon, I think he's gone with Dropbox. Considering someone in IRC just
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may be worth noting that any files/folders you share link to in
dropbox can be served upto a 10gb daily limit.

some of the android rom developers are using this for storage and
distribution of roms.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Steve Fisher
I run Spideroak and dropbox together they work well. I use spideroak
for specific folders and dropbox for selected files and transferring
to my cheapo tablet

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Bill Cumming
I'm the same, I use drop box to sync files between my laptop desktop and
android and use spideroak to back up my systems..
On 16 Feb 2011 16:53, Steve Fisher xirco...@gmail.com wrote:
 I run Spideroak and dropbox together they work well. I use spideroak
 for specific folders and dropbox for selected files and transferring
 to my cheapo tablet

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread d...@fishms.org
For long term storage, Crashplan is one to have a look at. Dropbox is my choice 
for 'everyday' short-term use.

Dan

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From: Bill Cumming bi...@s0l-uk.com
To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?
Date: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 16:58
I'm the same, I use drop box to sync files between my laptop desktop and 
android and use spideroak to back up my systems..
On 16 Feb 2011 16:53, Steve Fisher xirco...@gmail.com wrote: I run 
Spideroak and dropbox together they work well. I use spideroak

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test drive and V-Box ..

2011-02-16 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 16 February 2011 12:25, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 Due to the VirtualBox extensions not being present. Have you tried
 doing the install inside virtualbox and then adding the extensions,
 then rebooting the VM?

The other day I downloaded the latest VirtualBox, and tried Natty. I
did not try too hard but I seem to remember that the version of X in
Natty is too new and not supported by the extensions.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test drive and V-Box ..

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Bell

On 16/02/11 19:07, Philip Stubbs wrote:

On 16 February 2011 12:25, Alan Popea...@popey.com  wrote:

Due to the VirtualBox extensions not being present. Have you tried
doing the install inside virtualbox and then adding the extensions,
then rebooting the VM?

The other day I downloaded the latest VirtualBox, and tried Natty. I
did not try too hard but I seem to remember that the version of X in
Natty is too new and not supported by the extensions.

Works a treat actually. You need Virtualbox 4, which isn't in the repos, 
but comes as a .deb file and install the virtualbox guest extensions in 
the guest, then sit back and enjoy all the compiz powered unity goodness.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test drive and V-Box ..

2011-02-16 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 16 February 2011 19:39, Alan Bell
alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com wrote:
 On 16/02/11 19:07, Philip Stubbs wrote:

 On 16 February 2011 12:25, Alan Popea...@popey.com  wrote:

 Due to the VirtualBox extensions not being present. Have you tried
 doing the install inside virtualbox and then adding the extensions,
 then rebooting the VM?

 The other day I downloaded the latest VirtualBox, and tried Natty. I
 did not try too hard but I seem to remember that the version of X in
 Natty is too new and not supported by the extensions.

 Works a treat actually. You need Virtualbox 4, which isn't in the repos, but
 comes as a .deb file and install the virtualbox guest extensions in the
 guest, then sit back and enjoy all the compiz powered unity goodness.

I was trying VirtualBox 4.0.2 on a 64 bit Windows host. I was at work
and only mildly curious so did not spend too much time working out
what was wrong. Can you please let me know what version you are using,
as I may want to try and run it at home on a Linux host. Thanks.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test drive and V-Box ..

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Bell

On 16/02/11 19:45, Philip Stubbs wrote:


I was trying VirtualBox 4.0.2 on a 64 bit Windows host. I was at work
and only mildly curious so did not spend too much time working out
what was wrong. Can you please let me know what version you are using,
as I may want to try and run it at home on a Linux host. Thanks.

VirtualBox version 4.0.0 r69151 on 32 bit Ubuntu 10.10 host with Natty 
64bit guest (yes, you can do that too). Not entirely surprised the 
windows host didn't work as it relies on passing through OpenGL and 
Windows uses that DirectX stuff instead I think


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Phill Whiteside
 Hi,

I use Humyo .. 5GB of data and 5GB of media... all for free :D Sadly, no
longer avaialble for new users. But, as ever... I had a plan 'B' --
http://www.adrive.com/static/storageplans_basic They offer 50GB for free :D

Regards,

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On 16 February 2011 17:16, d...@fishms.org d...@fishms.org wrote:

 For long term storage, Crashplan is one to have a look at. Dropbox is my
 choice for 'everyday' short-term use.

 Dan

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 From: Bill Cumming bi...@s0l-uk.com
 To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?
 Date: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 16:58


 I'm the same, I use drop box to sync files between my laptop desktop and
 android and use spideroak to back up my systems..
 On 16 Feb 2011 16:53, Steve Fisher xirco...@gmail.com wrote:
  I run Spideroak and dropbox together they work well. I use spideroak
  for specific folders and dropbox for selected files and transferring
  to my cheapo tablet
 
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[ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-16 Thread mac
Just to follow up the recent thread - I guess some but not all of us may 
have come across this:


http://www.infoworld.com/d/applications/open-office-dilemma-openofficeorg-vs-libreoffice-716


mac


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[ubuntu-uk] Web server help please!

2011-02-16 Thread John Davis
I would like to set up a small web server to host my own  web site;

I have followed the tutorials and installed Ubuntu server. This was quite easy 
to do, the hard part is what comes next. 

Can any one point me in the direction of a tutorial that shows me how to add my 
web pages, configure the ports,set up security and email addresses ?

Most tuorials have very good pictorial setup info just for the installation 
procedure,my knowledge is scant for what to do next !

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Web server help please!

2011-02-16 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hiyas John,

follow what bodhi has to say on
http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=338

He says he's not a security expert yeah, right... he charges companies a
lot of money for consultancy, he's an awesome guy.

Regards,

Phill.

On 17 February 2011 06:55, John Davis davi...@wanadoo.fr wrote:

  I would like to set up a small web server to host my own  web site;

 I have followed the tutorials and installed Ubuntu server. This was quite
 easy to do, the hard part is what comes next.

 Can any one point me in the direction of a tutorial that shows me how to
 add my web pages, configure the ports,set up security and email addresses ?

 Most tuorials have very good pictorial setup info just for the installation
 procedure,my knowledge is scant for what to do next !

 Many thanks

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Web server help please!

2011-02-16 Thread bodsda
Hi John,

Apache stores its webroot here '/var/www/' 

Just create a web page named index.html and put it in that directory

By configuring the ports, I guess you mean you are hosting the web page on your 
home pc - you'll need to log onto your router and forward port 80 to your pc's 
IP address, so probably best to have a static address

Apache security is a whole subject in its own right - a good source of info can 
be found here - http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/133913/171/

An email address would need to be provided by the people who you buy the domain 
name from - 123reg are a good start

Hope this helps
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Web server help please!

2011-02-16 Thread Sean Miller
On 17 February 2011 07:08, bod...@googlemail.com wrote:

 An email address would need to be provided by the people who you buy the
 domain name from - 123reg are a good start


That's not strictly true... if you run a mail server on your home PC it's
just a case of ensuring that the MX record is set to the correct IP address
and then configuring the mail server.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Web server help please!

2011-02-16 Thread bodsda
Nice to know cheers - I guess I'll look into that and stop paying 123reg for my 
emails

Bodsda 
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 07:11:02 
To: bod...@googlemail.com; UK Ubuntu Talkubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Web server help please!

On 17 February 2011 07:08, bod...@googlemail.com wrote:

 An email address would need to be provided by the people who you buy the
 domain name from - 123reg are a good start


That's not strictly true... if you run a mail server on your home PC it's
just a case of ensuring that the MX record is set to the correct IP address
and then configuring the mail server.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Web server help please!

2011-02-16 Thread Phill Whiteside
Always use tasksel for installing things like LAMP, Mail Servers (Unless you
want a really hardened one), cloud servers set.

Regards,

Phill.

On 17 February 2011 07:11, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote:

 On 17 February 2011 07:08, bod...@googlemail.com wrote:

 An email address would need to be provided by the people who you buy the
 domain name from - 123reg are a good start


 That's not strictly true... if you run a mail server on your home PC it's
 just a case of ensuring that the MX record is set to the correct IP address
 and then configuring the mail server.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Web server help please!

2011-02-16 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 17 February 2011 07:15, bod...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Nice to know cheers - I guess I'll look into that and stop paying 123reg
 for my emails


Also check what your ISP does: for example, O2's basic plan prevents you
from using any mail servers but their own.

Having said that, if you have domain-based email, apart from gaining the
experience of setting up an email server, I can't see any reason not to use
Google Apps for Domains these days.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Web server help please!

2011-02-16 Thread Sean Miller
Google Apps is, indeed, very useful in this regard.  I hadn't mentioned that
because I thought the project was to set up not only httpd but also mail.

Yes, I use Google Apps for seanmiller.net (ie. what I'm using here) and it
saves a lot of hassle.

See http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/group/index.html for more
information.

Again, just a case of setting your MX records to make it work.

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REMINDER: Meeting Today (February 16, 2011) at 21:00 UTC

2011-02-16 Thread Penelope Stowe
Hi,

Just a friendly reminder that we have a meeting today at 21:00 UTC.

Meeting agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Team/MeetingAgenda

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Re: Byobu no longer installed by default?

2011-02-16 Thread Martin Pitt
Hey Corey,

Corey Burger [2011-02-15 15:10 -0800]:
 I noticed that Byobu is no longer installed by default. Is this a
 conscious decision and is the size of byobu so big that its space is
 required by something else?

It was a conscious decision (we dropped screen), as screen/byobu
aren't that important to have in the default desktop installation, and
both together save ~ 0.7 MB. It's not a lot, but given our continuous
unfattening quest every bit helps.

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Re: OpenShot instead of PiTiVi

2011-02-16 Thread Rick Spencer
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 01:18 -0600, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
 I know my opinions are biased towards OpenShot, but I suppose we all
 have our biases... =)  One of the reasons OpenShot has been so well
 received by people is our simple interface and stable foundation.
  Just to play devil's advocate, PiTiVi could also be described as
 crashy.  And so could many other applications that deal with
 decoding and encoding video.  To actually site some quantitative data,
 rather than just
 hearsay, http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/best-linux-video-editor.html.
  A review posted just the other
 day: 
 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/openshot-1-3-0-released-cements-place-as-the-best-video-editor-for-linux/.
 
 
 I also really like Timo's idea about a post-install welcome screen.
  Even if OpenShot never gets included as the default video editor, it
 would be super helpful to many users to know that they have another
 great video editor choice, just 1 click away. =)
Sounds like a job for featured apps in the software-centered



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Re: Byobu no longer installed by default?

2011-02-16 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:37, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hey Corey,

 Corey Burger [2011-02-15 15:10 -0800]:
  I noticed that Byobu is no longer installed by default. Is this a
  conscious decision and is the size of byobu so big that its space is
  required by something else?

 [...] screen/byobu aren't that important to have in the default desktop
 installation


is there a general definition for what exactly qualifies an application to
deserve the title important?
According to your statement, a definition might be found behind the word
default desktop installation.

So i guess everything that goes beyond having a working Desktop Environment
is also not important, correct?

This type of definition work helps a lot with deciding what packages will
eventually be removed, replaced or added to make the default desktop
installation more redundancy-free.
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Re: Shall we hide the GUI for Hibernate in Natty?

2011-02-16 Thread Treviño
Il giorno lun, 31/01/2011 alle 11.04 -0800, Rick Spencer ha scritto:
 Hello all,
 
 This email is to get some feedback and discussion about an idea under
 consideration for Ubuntu in Natty.
 
 Natty is currently NOT showing the Hibernate option in the list of
 shutdown choices. This is currently an experiment, but I thought it
 might be worth discussing the pros and cons on these lists as well.
 
 The reasoning for hiding Hibernate includes:
 1. It doesn't work well for many users on many machines.

This is partly true: it has improved a lot in recent times...

 2. It's very slow.

True, unfortunately true. But this is valid just for the standard kernel
hibernation. Using TuxOnIce would improve a *lot* the usability and
speed. Until something like TuxOnIce would be in the kernel, the
hibernation is completely useless, if not damaging (sometimes ubuntu in
low battery starts hibernating and it takes many minutes to perform the
task, while it's impossible to stop the process!).

 3. It's not as useful because users can just suspend.
Mh, not true... Suspending is useful, but sometimes I really need to
hibernate (i.e. remove laptop battery, keep it away from AC for long
time...).

 4. The difference between hibernate and suspend is confusing.

True.



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Package post-install notification methods?

2011-02-16 Thread Jani Monoses

Hello,

I received quite a few helpful suggestions about how one could partially 
solve the problem I describe below so I am more confused than if there 
were only one way to do it :)


For an ARM blueprint [1] concerning updating boot firmware on certain 
boards, one of the requirements is to notify users when a new bootloader 
package is installed. These binary packages (u-boot and/or x-loader) get 
installed on the system but they have no effect on the booting unless 
the files they contain are copied to a boot partition.


This copying is not automatic and not part of the package via a dpkg 
hook because it is a potentially dangerous operation. However users 
should be notified that the possibility exists and that they can flash 
the new firmware using flash-kernel.


The question is how to present this notification to the user so that
* it works both in X and in headless images
* it is simple and involves a minimum number of package and system file 
changes :)


I was suggested motd-update, jockey, update-manager hooks and debconf 
notes so far.


I find the debconf way the least intrusive but I worry that few packages 
use such notes and it is only for important use-cases.


Such firmware updates do not happen frequently, if ever, in a stable 
release, as only bugfixes that cannot otherwise be worked around in 
kernel or userland are targeted.


thank you
Jani

[1] 
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-arm-n-handle-core-boot-files-update



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Re: Analysis of Python 2.7 support in Natty

2011-02-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 03, 2011, at 03:56 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:

So now that Natty main support for Python 2.7 looks pretty good, the question
is: do we drop Python 2.6 from Natty?

Just to bring closure to this thread: consensus is to keep Python 2.6 for
Natty and remove it early in Natty+1.

Thanks for your input everyone.

Remember, if you find bugs in packages related to the Python 2.7 transition,
please file them on the appropriate package and add the official 'python27'
tag.

Cheers,
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Edubuntu Wallpaper

2011-02-16 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
Hi

A few months back John Baer approacedh Edubuntu and offered some
assitance in creating a wallpaper for Edubuntu. He helped us create the
spec on the Ubuntu wiki[1], and since then, there have been a bunch of
submissions on the Flickr group[2].

From the Edubuntu side we're happy to have received those submissions,
but there weren't many submissions that fitted the specification well.
We'll be happy to include some of those wallpapers in the system and
feature them in the wallpaper chooser, and thank the contributors for
their work.

Martin Owens (doctormo) said that he's willing to put some dedicated
work into an Edubuntu wallpaper and can do a few concepts and then
iterations on them. This seems like a better approach than a competition
and might work better for this release.

John, can we close the current commission for wallpaper on the wiki and
list the wallpapers chosen for inclusion? I know there's technically a
month left on that spec's timelines, but I don't think we were that
likely to receive much more submissions anyway.

Thanks to everyone involved, I know this might be a bit of a sensitive
issue but if anyone wants to talk to me about it, feel free to poke me.

-Jonathan

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0006_Edubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper
[2] http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-6/

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ARM IRC Meeting Reminder

2011-02-16 Thread Michael Casadevall
Hi,

  Every Thursday at 15:00 UTC.

We'll be having the usual IRC meeting on #ubuntu-meeting, on
Thursday 2011-02-17 at 15:00 UTC.

The meeting agenda is available here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110217

The meeting history page with links to prior meetings is at:
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting

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Re: Developer Membership Board Poll

2011-02-16 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com wrote:
    The DMB will review the results of the poll at the next meeting
 (14th February 2011, 12:00 UTC), and expects that the renewed board
 will first meet sometime around the end of the month (schedule to be
 determined based on availability of the replacement board).  In the
 event of confusion or an inability of the DMB to select replacements,
 selection will be determined by the Technical Board.

Any word on these results?

According to Launchpad [1], Benjamin Drung is the only member of the
Developer Membership Board.

Thanks,

Andrew

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Re: Developer Membership Board Poll

2011-02-16 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Mittwoch, den 16.02.2011, 17:32 -0500 schrieb Andrew
Starr-Bochicchio:
 On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 The DMB will review the results of the poll at the next meeting
  (14th February 2011, 12:00 UTC), and expects that the renewed board
  will first meet sometime around the end of the month (schedule to be
  determined based on availability of the replacement board).  In the
  event of confusion or an inability of the DMB to select replacements,
  selection will be determined by the Technical Board.
 
 Any word on these results?
 
 According to Launchpad [1], Benjamin Drung is the only member of the
 Developer Membership Board.

The (new) members are Emmet Hikory, Michael Bienia, Stéphane Graber,
Iain Lane, Makenzie Morgan, and Cody Somerville [2].

Emmet?

[2]
http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_924ef5b8e9f6d03b

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Re: Ubuntu language pack update requests procedure

2011-02-16 Thread David Planella
El dl 14 de 02 de 2011 a les 15:21 +0100, en/na David Planella va
escriure:
 Hi translators,
 
 As part of the language pack updates spec, there was a remaining item
 for me to do to document a procedure for on-demand language pack
 updates. In short, for a translation team to request a language pack
 update out of the normal schedule.
 
 You'll find it here:
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdateRequest
 
 Please have a look at it, and let me know what you think
 (+1/-1/comments/questions...).
 

Hi translators,

Any comments on this? Is the page understandable, will you find it
useful, would you like to change anything?

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Re: Ubuntu language pack update requests procedure

2011-02-16 Thread Sasa Tekovic
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:46 PM, David Planella
david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi translators,

 Any comments on this? Is the page understandable, will you find it
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Hi David,

I believe everything is pretty much clear, at least to me. I suppose
that's why nobody replied to your e-mail :-)

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Re: Ubuntu language pack update requests procedure

2011-02-16 Thread David Planella
El dc 16 de 02 de 2011 a les 14:01 +0100, en/na Sasa Tekovic va
escriure:
 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:46 PM, David Planella
 david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  Hi translators,
 
  Any comments on this? Is the page understandable, will you find it
  useful, would you like to change anything?
 
  Regards,
  David.
 
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 Hi David,
 
 I believe everything is pretty much clear, at least to me. I suppose
 that's why nobody replied to your e-mail :-)
 
 Cheers!
 

Sounds good :) Thanks for the feedback Sasa.

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New Videocast Tomorrow: Ubuntu Translations Workflow II

2011-02-16 Thread David Planella
Hi translators,

Join me in a fresh episode of Ubuntu Translations TV tomorrow, where
I’ll be continuing the series started on the last session [1] and
explain what happens to translations when they get out of Launchpad and
are delivered to our users for some localized goodness.

Again, this will be a bit technical, but not too much, and it will help
everyone understanding the big picture of how translations work in
Ubuntu.

As usual, feel free to participate and ask your questions!

WHAT: Videocast – The Ubuntu Translations Workflow II
WHEN: Thursday, Feb. 17th, 16:00 UTC [2]
WHERE: Ustream Ubuntu Translations channel [3]

Talk to you all tomorrow!

Note that if you wish to participate in the online chat, you’ll need to
sign up for a ustream account (you can use your Launchpad OpenID), but
I’ll also be answering your questions on the #ubuntu-translators IRC
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Regards,
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[3] http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ubuntu-translations-with-david-planella

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Re: Ubuntu language pack update requests procedure

2011-02-16 Thread Milo Casagrande
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 13:46, David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi translators,

 Any comments on this? Is the page understandable, will you find it
 useful, would you like to change anything?

 Regards,
 David.

Pretty clear and detailed to me too!

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Re: Ubuntu language pack update requests procedure

2011-02-16 Thread Ask Hjorth Larsen
Hi

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:21 PM, David Planella
david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi translators,

 As part of the language pack updates spec, there was a remaining item
 for me to do to document a procedure for on-demand language pack
 updates. In short, for a translation team to request a language pack
 update out of the normal schedule.

 You'll find it here:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdateRequest

 Please have a look at it, and let me know what you think
 (+1/-1/comments/questions...).

 Thanks!

 Regards,
 David.

 [1]
 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-translations-language-pack-updates-schedule

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It's good to have a well-defined procedure for extraordinary updates,
and the procedure seems fine.  I think the regular updates are
frequent enough that extraordinary ones should not be requested just
for the sake of new translations - only critical bugs require this
IMHO.

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Re: Ubuntu language pack update requests procedure

2011-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
Fwiw i think it's a +1 from me.  Clear and simple.  I don't work in 
translations 
anymore but find it very useful to stay in the list.
Regards from
Tom :)




From: Ask Hjorth Larsen asklar...@gmail.com
To: David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com
Cc: Ubuntu Translators ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Wed, 16 February, 2011 19:04:43
Subject: Re: Ubuntu language pack update requests procedure

Hi

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:21 PM, David Planella
david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi translators,

 As part of the language pack updates spec, there was a remaining item
 for me to do to document a procedure for on-demand language pack
 updates. In short, for a translation team to request a language pack
 update out of the normal schedule.

 You'll find it here:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdateRequest

 Please have a look at it, and let me know what you think
 (+1/-1/comments/questions...).

 Thanks!

 Regards,
 David.

 [1]
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-translations-language-pack-updates-schedule
e

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It's good to have a well-defined procedure for extraordinary updates,
and the procedure seems fine.  I think the regular updates are
frequent enough that extraordinary ones should not be requested just
for the sake of new translations - only critical bugs require this
IMHO.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] VirtualBox 4 usando partição ja existente

2011-02-16 Thread Paulo Henrique Colen
Hamacker, só hj tive condições de testar.
E realmente só pode ser culpa do VirtualBox, ele só deixa passar a
impressora HP, o resto dos perifericos aparecem na lista mas ficam
desativados, não consigo clicar, dei boot na mesma marquina virtual com uma
iso do ubuntu e tb não reconheceu meu pendrive, so ficou a impressora.
Estranho d++.

2011/2/14 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com

 Você espeta um pendrive, vai lá no menu USB do VBox e pede para o VBox
 deixar o pendrive passar, se isso funcionar, funciona com qualquer
 hardware USB. Voce pode ajustar para que certos hardwares USB não
 precisem dessa intervenção manual.

 Se a USB tá funcionando para o pendrive, funciona para todos os
 outros. Mas deve entender que desse ponto em diante, o problema é com
 o Windows. Como exemplo, posso citar meu celular, que tive de aplicar
 uma atualização do Fabricante, um setup.exe que pela porta USB
 atualiza o firmware do aparelho.

 Se funciona comigo, funcionará contigo. É que realmente você chegou
 agora e deve estar um pouco perdido no VB, pena não termos uma
 Matrix onde pudéssemos baixar conhecimento, senão transferia o meu
 para você.

 Um Abraço.

 Em 12 de fevereiro de 2011 19:20, Paulo Henrique Colen
 paulo.co...@gmail.com escreveu:
  É Hamacke, segui seu tutorial a risca e não funcionou, pelo que percebi
  consegui habilitar a USB 2.0, mas os perifericos continuam desativados.
 
  2011/2/11 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com
 
  Sua versão é a comercial do VB ?
  Instalou o pack externo ?
 
  http://hamacker.santhanna.net/?page_id=2804
 
  []'s
 
 
  Em 11 de fevereiro de 2011 17:02, Paulo Henrique Colen
  paulo.co...@gmail.com escreveu:
   Achei melhor eu fazer a instalação do zero.
   Então esbarrei em outro problema.
   A versão que uso é essa.
  
 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/w9eaCjqAJL4sPqwEpruxgw?feat=directlink
   Tem 1 webcam, 1 pendrive, um leitor de certificado digital conectado
 via
   USB, cada um na sua devida porta.
   O Ubuntu reconhece tudo.
   Fiz a instalação do XP no VBox, adicionei nas configurações, todos
   despositivos USB, e o unico a ser detectado pelo XP foi a impressora,
 e
   quando vou em Dispositivos/Dispositivos USB, o unico que fica
 habilitado
   para desmarcar e marcar é a impressora...
   Alguem pode saber o que é isso?
  
  
  
   2011/2/9 Salles salles@gmail.com
  
   Em Qua, 2011-02-09 às 13:12 -0200, Paulo Henrique Colen escreveu:
Boa tarde pessoal.
Estou meio sumido, mas aos poucos estou tentando voltar.
Uso um sistema que infelizmente nao funcionou no Ubuntu, então
 preciso
virtualizar o windows.
Tenho instalado em Dual Boot, windows XP e Ubuntu 10.10, queria que
 o
virtualbox usasse essa partição, para que não houvesse a
 necessidade
  de
fazer a instalação toda novamente.
Grato
  
   Paulo,
  
   Os discos virtuais ficam localizados na /home/seu usuário, na pasta
   oculta virtualbox.
   Creio que para isso, você terá que transformar essa partição em /home
 e
   realizar a transferência do user para lá junto com suas
 configurações.
  
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Audio Xubuntu 10.10 não funciona (VIA)

2011-02-16 Thread Emilio Fernandes
Qual é o id da sua placa?

Em 10 de fevereiro de 2011 12:00, Fábio Magnoni
fabiohmagn...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Alguém tem alguma sugestão?

 Em 8 de fevereiro de 2011 20:19, Fábio Magnoni
 fabiohmagn...@gmail.comescreveu:

  Olá pessoal,
 
  Não estou conseguindo fazer funcionar o audio no Xubuntu 10.10 (i386) em
  uma máquina com placa mãe Gigabyte GA-VM900M (rev2.0)
 
  O resultado de $ lspci:
 
  VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio
  Controller) (rev 10)
 
  Procurei já em vários fórums mas ainda não encontrei um driver para poder
  instalar. Alguém poderia ajudar?
 
  Agradeço desde já a colaboração.
 
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  http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/UbuntuSP
 
  Eu prefiro receber documentos em ODF. Não sabe o que é? -
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] VirtualBox 4 usando partição ja existente

2011-02-16 Thread Paulo Henrique Colen
Agora mais estranho ainda.
Estava com uma pulga atras da orelha com o VB 4, então estalei o VB 3.2.12,
e a mesma coisa está acontecendo.
Deixa eu detalhar a situação.
Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat, instalado no computador.
Virtual Box 4.0
E Windows XP no VB.
Será que tenho que editar algum arquivo do Ubuntu? Acho que antigamente
tinha isso.

2011/2/16 Paulo Henrique Colen paulo.co...@gmail.com

 Hamacker, só hj tive condições de testar.
 E realmente só pode ser culpa do VirtualBox, ele só deixa passar a
 impressora HP, o resto dos perifericos aparecem na lista mas ficam
 desativados, não consigo clicar, dei boot na mesma marquina virtual com uma
 iso do ubuntu e tb não reconheceu meu pendrive, so ficou a impressora.
 Estranho d++.

 2011/2/14 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com

 Você espeta um pendrive, vai lá no menu USB do VBox e pede para o VBox
 deixar o pendrive passar, se isso funcionar, funciona com qualquer
 hardware USB. Voce pode ajustar para que certos hardwares USB não
 precisem dessa intervenção manual.

 Se a USB tá funcionando para o pendrive, funciona para todos os
 outros. Mas deve entender que desse ponto em diante, o problema é com
 o Windows. Como exemplo, posso citar meu celular, que tive de aplicar
 uma atualização do Fabricante, um setup.exe que pela porta USB
 atualiza o firmware do aparelho.

 Se funciona comigo, funcionará contigo. É que realmente você chegou
 agora e deve estar um pouco perdido no VB, pena não termos uma
 Matrix onde pudéssemos baixar conhecimento, senão transferia o meu
 para você.

 Um Abraço.

 Em 12 de fevereiro de 2011 19:20, Paulo Henrique Colen
 paulo.co...@gmail.com escreveu:
  É Hamacke, segui seu tutorial a risca e não funcionou, pelo que percebi
  consegui habilitar a USB 2.0, mas os perifericos continuam desativados.
 
  2011/2/11 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com
 
  Sua versão é a comercial do VB ?
  Instalou o pack externo ?
 
  http://hamacker.santhanna.net/?page_id=2804
 
  []'s
 
 
  Em 11 de fevereiro de 2011 17:02, Paulo Henrique Colen
  paulo.co...@gmail.com escreveu:
   Achei melhor eu fazer a instalação do zero.
   Então esbarrei em outro problema.
   A versão que uso é essa.
  
 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/w9eaCjqAJL4sPqwEpruxgw?feat=directlink
   Tem 1 webcam, 1 pendrive, um leitor de certificado digital conectado
 via
   USB, cada um na sua devida porta.
   O Ubuntu reconhece tudo.
   Fiz a instalação do XP no VBox, adicionei nas configurações, todos
   despositivos USB, e o unico a ser detectado pelo XP foi a impressora,
 e
   quando vou em Dispositivos/Dispositivos USB, o unico que fica
 habilitado
   para desmarcar e marcar é a impressora...
   Alguem pode saber o que é isso?
  
  
  
   2011/2/9 Salles salles@gmail.com
  
   Em Qua, 2011-02-09 às 13:12 -0200, Paulo Henrique Colen escreveu:
Boa tarde pessoal.
Estou meio sumido, mas aos poucos estou tentando voltar.
Uso um sistema que infelizmente nao funcionou no Ubuntu, então
 preciso
virtualizar o windows.
Tenho instalado em Dual Boot, windows XP e Ubuntu 10.10, queria
 que o
virtualbox usasse essa partição, para que não houvesse a
 necessidade
  de
fazer a instalação toda novamente.
Grato
  
   Paulo,
  
   Os discos virtuais ficam localizados na /home/seu usuário, na pasta
   oculta virtualbox.
   Creio que para isso, você terá que transformar essa partição em
 /home e
   realizar a transferência do user para lá junto com suas
 configurações.
  
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] VirtualBox 4 usando partição ja existente

2011-02-16 Thread nethell
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:58:36 -0300
Paulo Henrique Colen paulo.co...@gmail.com wrote:
 Agora mais estranho ainda.
 Estava com uma pulga atras da orelha com o VB 4, então estalei o VB 3.2.12,
 e a mesma coisa está acontecendo.
 Deixa eu detalhar a situação.
 Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat, instalado no computador.
 Virtual Box 4.0
 E Windows XP no VB.
 Será que tenho que editar algum arquivo do Ubuntu? Acho que antigamente
 tinha isso.

Paulo, 
Você instalou os adicionais para convidado?

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