discussion of ubuntu-desktop packaging branches
Robert pointed out https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002940.html, about moving to 'normal mode' of bzr-builddeb, in which the entire tree is versioned. - It is possible to screw up the branches so that bzr merge-package throws a confusing error (I keep doing it). Perhaps we need some hooks in bzr to stop this from occurring. If it can be broken, it will be broken (repeatedly). Robert, could you tell us more about this or file bugs? Martin -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-distributed-devel
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical kills free Ubuntu CD program
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Stereotactic maill...@postinbox.com wrote: Exactly. Many new comes are not aware of this pleasant discussion here :) Thats one thing I rallied about till it got hijacked :) No offence meant!!! It's a bad sign but can't be helped though. The thread was hijacked at your first reply itself, where OP stated why he is sad about Shipit being stopped and you posted comments. That comment itself had no relevance to the OP post. It contained * Unity v/s GNOME * Rolling release - Debian * Paid software being bad Anyway since you did not answer my questions, I conclude you gave up. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] manpages for openGL
Hello, Is there any package exit for manpages of openGL or/and GLUT? -- Alok Singh Mahor http://alokmahor.co.cc Join the next generation of computing, Open Source, and Linux/GNU! -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical kills free Ubuntu CD program
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net wrote: snip / Anyway since you did not answer my questions, I conclude you gave up. chill, this is not a boxing match :) I think the discussion was good - it's always good to see some debate and learn some things in the process. Am happy to download / burn CDs, Khar / Worli in Mumbai. cheers, Sanjay -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical kills free Ubuntu CD program
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 08:42:44PM +0530, Onkar Shinde wrote: What we need is a good way to distribute the CDs at minimal cost and a system to keep track of who has what. Should we focus on developing some online app (as part of our website) to do this? I am fine with wiki based tracking. We already have this page [0] where we used to update the CDs that we have. We can start planning something on the similar lines while designing the new website. I hope Maitreya is reading this :) [0] http://www.ubuntu-in.info/wiki/CDRequest -- Regards, Nitesh Mistry | www.mistrynitesh.com PGP key id: A6FEF696 | 'geekosopher' on freenode irc pgp64ws0rsRnV.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical kills free Ubuntu CD program
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Nitesh Mistry mail...@mistrynitesh.net wrote: On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 08:42:44PM +0530, Onkar Shinde wrote: What we need is a good way to distribute the CDs at minimal cost and a system to keep track of who has what. Should we focus on developing some online app (as part of our website) to do this? I am fine with wiki based tracking. We already have this page [0] where we used to update the CDs that we have. We can start planning something on the similar lines while designing the new website. I hope Maitreya is reading this :) [0] http://www.ubuntu-in.info/wiki/CDRequest wonder if we could have sponsors for the local cd shipit - not corporate sponsors but individual sponsors am willing to put some money into a fund if such a fund is created. ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical kills free Ubuntu CD program
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:31:40PM +0530, Ramnarayan.K wrote: wonder if we could have sponsors for the local cd shipit - not corporate sponsors but individual sponsors am willing to put some money into a fund if such a fund is created. Running a centralised shipit program would be too costly as well as requiring dedicated manpower. Instead a decentralised system like filling up a wiki page of those who have the CDs and those wanting one is more cost effective and also improves 'the social network' within the community. Also, by setting up a shipit like service, people would expect better or professional artwork on CDs and CD covers which would up the cost further. -- Regards, Nitesh Mistry | www.mistrynitesh.com PGP key id: A6FEF696 | 'geekosopher' on freenode irc pgpYsrJLJTOfW.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Next monthly LoCo meeting on Wednesday, April 13th at 9 PM IST
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Nitesh Mistry mail...@mistrynitesh.net wrote: Hello all, Our next monthly LoCo meeting is planned for Wednesday, April 13th at 9 PM IST. As always, everyone is welcome. Feel free to add your topic to the agenda [0]. Also check out the minutes of last meeting [1]. So see you all there :) [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianTeam/Meetings/20110413/Agenda [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianTeam/Meetings/20110314 -- Regards, Nitesh Mistry | www.mistrynitesh.com PGP key id: A6FEF696 | 'geekosopher' on freenode irc -- ubuntu-in mailing list Just recalled that Ubuntu Appdeveloper week will be starting from 9.30 pm IST (If I correctly converted UTC time to IST), it would be good if we could shift the time of meeting a bit earlier ? Thanks Abhinav ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[Ubuntu-QC] Rappel - Atelier-Formation aujourd'hui dimanche: Initiation aux logiciels libres et à GNU/Linux - Outremont/Mile-End
Voir: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/716/detail/ Atelier-Formation: Initiation aux logiciels libres et à GNU/Linux Le dimanche 10 avril 2011 de 14:00 à 16:00 Entrée gratuite - Inscription gratuite pour les membres du réseau des bibliothèques de Montréal Apprenez à utiliser, modifier, dupliquer et diffuser ces logiciels complètement gratuits. Une façon intelligente d'utiliser vos outils informatiques. Venez même avec vos ordinateurs portables si le coeur vous en dit. Ces ateliers/conférences se tiennent un dimanche par mois depuis le 30 janvier 2011. Moyennant un don symbolique vous pourrez aussi obtenir les logiciels Ubuntu et LibreOffice sur DVD. Bibliothèque du Mile-End 5434, Avenue du Parc Montréal, Québec Formateur: Fabian Rodriguez http://www.legoutdulibre.com Pour inscription téléphonez au 514 872-2141. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
[Ubuntu-QC] Compiler son kernel
Allo, Ce weekend j'ai eu une expérience avec mon netbook et Meego pas très agréable (récit ici pour les curieux http://king76.au-quebec.info/2011/04/ideapad-windows-7-meego-1-1-et-ubuntu-11-04-sous-le-meme-toit/). (Je sais que ca parle Ubuntu ici, mais c'est pas de l'aide pour Meego que je recherche, vous allez comprendre). En fait, lorsque j'ai voulu installer le driver Broadcom STA sous Meego, je suis tombé sur le problème que la le lien vers les sources iqui se trouvent ici lib/modules/2.6.35.3-10.3-netbook/build/ était brisé. Cela pointait vers un autre dossier dans ./src/kernels/2.6 etc.. qui n'existe pas sur mon ordi. J'ai les sources d'un noyau plus récent. Pourtant en tapant uname -a je voyais bien que j'avais un noyau plus récent. J'ai tenté d'écrire en anglais le problème ici : http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3106 mais pas de réponse. D'ou ma question. Est ce que c'est cela que l'on appelle compiler son noyau ? Dans mon cas à moi, est ce que je devrais compiler mon kernel vers une version plus récente ? Ou mettre la main sur les sources de mon kernel actuel et les déposer dans le bon dossier pour que l'installation du driver se fasse correctement ? J'ai suivi plusieurs tutos pour le kernel, mais ca n'a rien donné. Pire encore Meego est pire qu'avant (ne détecte plus ma batterie et ne m'offre plus la connexion filaire). Mais la n'est pas la question. Je voudrais juste en savoir plus sur SOURCE et COMPILATION du kernel pour la prochaine fois Merci -- Yannick Pavard / Collectif La voix du libre Émission de radio sur les logiciels libres http://www.lavoixdulibre.info/ -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
[Ubuntu-QC] Le Pacte du libre... Redoublons d'efforts
Bonjour, La campagne électorale va bon train... le 2 mai arrivera plus vite qu'on ne se l'imagine. Il faut donc se dépêcher de contacter les candidats à l'élection pour les inciter à signer le pacte du libre. Allez voir la section du Pacte du libre pour l'élection du 2 mai. http://facil.qc.ca/content/pacte-du-logiciel-libre-%C3%A9lections-f%C3%A9d%C3%A9rales-2011 Si vous avez besoin du logo de FACIL pour faire la promotion du Pacte, vous pouvez le trouver ici : http://facil.qc.ca/membres/informations Bonne fin de campagne André Cotte Ubunteros Membre du CA de FACIL -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Suspend/Resume
Bonjour, Ton problème ressemble au mien. Je l'ai rapporté ici et tu peux en prendre connaissance dans les archives d'Ubuntu Québec ici: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-quebec/2011-January/005835.html Consulte les réponses dans le fil de discussion. Le problème est toujours présent. Il n'y a pas eu de correctif depuis. *Gilbert Dion* gilbertdion.com Le 7 avril 2011 12:49, jacques.bast...@videotron.ca a écrit : Salut à tous, sur mon laptop Acer Aspire 5535, j'utilise Windows Vista et la fonction Suspend et tout le système arrête, l'écran s'éteint, le ventilateur cesse de fonctionner. Et quand je pèse une touche du clavier ou si je bouge la souris, le système se rallume et je peux continuer à travailler. Bien, j'ai installé Ubuntu 10.10 avec Wubi et je peux suspendre, mais je ne peux retravailler, car même si le disque dur et le ventilateur se rallume, l'écran lui ne se rallume jamais et je sus obligé de fermer l'ordinateur en maintenant le bouton d'allumage enfoncé pour 4 secondes environ. Je dois rebooter à ce moment. La fonction Resume ne fonctionne pas. J'ai cherché mais je ne trouve toujours pas la solution. Des idées? Merci. JB -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [orca-list] Installing ubuntu desktop- I Give Up! (fwd)
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 06:54:22AM EST, Martin McCormick wrote: With the vinux3.1 CD, the commands mimed as if they had worked, but no sound resulted. Martin, could you please follow the following instructions, so I can get some more information about you rhardware, please do this on a live CD where you cannot get sound working. 1. Download this file: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh 2. Put it onto a USB stick, and boot into the live CD and mount ths tick as you did for your other script. 3. Run the script like so, so we save the info to a text file: bash /mnt/alsa-info.txt --no-upload --output /mnt/alsa-info.txt. 4. Attach the file to a message and send it to me, them...@ubuntu.com, or feel free to send it to the list if you would like. If you could do this, that would be great. Thanks. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 UI discussion. GNOME3, Unity, XFCE and Studiousers workflow.
Yes. Check the magazine they do. They are trying to show designers that they can use free software to do good work. I know them personally Ricardo and Ana, we are from the same town. They are designers. From what I talked with Ricard, he seems to be very interested on interaction design. 2011/4/11 C K coryis...@gmail.com: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: I like the idea of a XFCE shift. I lightweight, unobtrusive and streamlined desktop Well, I'm unsure of how lightweight it is anymore. But it will surely offer a more smooth transition for Studio users. but with all the capabilities needed. Xfce has a big fan base and i don't see why people would oppose the change from Unity / Gnome 3 to XFCE. Both of this new shells rely heavily on 3D rendering technology and demand more system resources. Resources that a studio user needs to do his/her work. Cory, there are people like Ricardo LaFuente and Ana Carvalho (http://blog.manufacturaindependente.org) editors of the Libre graphics magazine http://libregraphicsmag.com , that maybe would want to help on the design effort. In what way do you think they would want to help with design? Do you know them? -- -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 UI discussion. GNOME3, Unity, XFCE and Studiousers workflow.
About XFCE and lightweigth. I think XFCE lighter than Gnome classic. Also thunar as a lot of nice features for images (mass rename :D ). ohhh, and it has a control panel :D 2011/4/11 Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com: Yes. Check the magazine they do. They are trying to show designers that they can use free software to do good work. I know them personally Ricardo and Ana, we are from the same town. They are designers. From what I talked with Ricard, he seems to be very interested on interaction design. 2011/4/11 C K coryis...@gmail.com: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: I like the idea of a XFCE shift. I lightweight, unobtrusive and streamlined desktop Well, I'm unsure of how lightweight it is anymore. But it will surely offer a more smooth transition for Studio users. but with all the capabilities needed. Xfce has a big fan base and i don't see why people would oppose the change from Unity / Gnome 3 to XFCE. Both of this new shells rely heavily on 3D rendering technology and demand more system resources. Resources that a studio user needs to do his/her work. Cory, there are people like Ricardo LaFuente and Ana Carvalho (http://blog.manufacturaindependente.org) editors of the Libre graphics magazine http://libregraphicsmag.com , that maybe would want to help on the design effort. In what way do you think they would want to help with design? Do you know them? -- -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 UI discussion. GNOME3, Unity, XFCE andStudiousers workflow.
Before we ditch gnome, let's see what we can do with it first. For instance have we ever though of bundling rocket dock, or another desktop mod as the default theme? That's essentially what I did with my windows system, I took out the task bar using rocket dock and I only have a docklet on the buttom of my screen. It maximizes space, and it just makes the screen easy to look at. Let's not be too quick on blowing off a very well though out gui Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com Sender: ubuntu-studio-devel-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 00:16:50 To: Ubuntu Studio Development Technical Discussionubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: Ubuntu Studio Development Technical Discussion ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Cc: C Kcoryis...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 UI discussion. GNOME3, Unity, XFCE and Studiousers workflow. About XFCE and lightweigth. I think XFCE lighter than Gnome classic. Also thunar as a lot of nice features for images (mass rename :D ). ohhh, and it has a control panel :D 2011/4/11 Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com: Yes. Check the magazine they do. They are trying to show designers that they can use free software to do good work. I know them personally Ricardo and Ana, we are from the same town. They are designers. From what I talked with Ricard, he seems to be very interested on interaction design. 2011/4/11 C K coryis...@gmail.com: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: I like the idea of a XFCE shift. I lightweight, unobtrusive and streamlined desktop Well, I'm unsure of how lightweight it is anymore. But it will surely offer a more smooth transition for Studio users. but with all the capabilities needed. Xfce has a big fan base and i don't see why people would oppose the change from Unity / Gnome 3 to XFCE. Both of this new shells rely heavily on 3D rendering technology and demand more system resources. Resources that a studio user needs to do his/her work. Cory, there are people like Ricardo LaFuente and Ana Carvalho (http://blog.manufacturaindependente.org) editors of the Libre graphics magazine http://libregraphicsmag.com , that maybe would want to help on the design effort. In what way do you think they would want to help with design? Do you know them? -- -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 UI discussion. GNOME3, Unity, XFCE andStudiousers workflow.
It is not a bad idea, but the default / classic doesnt look it will be maintained in the ubuntu repositories in the near future. About using only a dock, It is not a bad idea, provided there is a way to see the system load :D 2011/4/11 C K coryis...@gmail.com: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:24 PM, louiethecu...@gmail.com wrote: Before we ditch gnome, let's see what we can do with it first. For instance have we ever though of bundling rocket dock, or another desktop mod as the default theme? That's essentially what I did with my windows system, I took out the task bar using rocket dock and I only have a docklet on the buttom of my screen. It maximizes space, and it just makes the screen easy to look at. Let's not be too quick on blowing off a very well though out gui This is pretty much what I proposed in my 1st email. (maybe you didn't follow the screenshot links on your Blackberry?) -- -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 UI discussion. GNOME3, Unity, XFCE andStudiousers workflow.
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Louie Queral louiethecu...@gmail.com wrote: example screen of my windows desktop. simple, clean, and inviting. we have the same basic concept with a gnome interface as well, no doubt. On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:24 PM, louiethecu...@gmail.com wrote: Before we ditch gnome, let's see what we can do with it first. For instance have we ever though of bundling rocket dock, or another desktop mod as the default theme? That's essentially what I did with my windows system, I took out the task bar using rocket dock and I only have a docklet on the buttom of my screen. It maximizes space, and it just makes the screen easy to look at. Let's not be too quick on blowing off a very well though out gui Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com Sender: ubuntu-studio-devel-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 00:16:50 To: Ubuntu Studio Development Technical Discussionubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: Ubuntu Studio Development Technical Discussion ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Cc: C Kcoryis...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 UI discussion. GNOME3, Unity, XFCE and Studiousers workflow. About XFCE and lightweigth. I think XFCE lighter than Gnome classic. Also thunar as a lot of nice features for images (mass rename :D ). ohhh, and it has a control panel :D 2011/4/11 Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com: Yes. Check the magazine they do. They are trying to show designers that they can use free software to do good work. I know them personally Ricardo and Ana, we are from the same town. They are designers. From what I talked with Ricard, he seems to be very interested on interaction design. 2011/4/11 C K coryis...@gmail.com: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: I like the idea of a XFCE shift. I lightweight, unobtrusive and streamlined desktop Well, I'm unsure of how lightweight it is anymore. But it will surely offer a more smooth transition for Studio users. but with all the capabilities needed. Xfce has a big fan base and i don't see why people would oppose the change from Unity / Gnome 3 to XFCE. Both of this new shells rely heavily on 3D rendering technology and demand more system resources. Resources that a studio user needs to do his/her work. Cory, there are people like Ricardo LaFuente and Ana Carvalho (http://blog.manufacturaindependente.org) editors of the Libre graphics magazine http://libregraphicsmag.com , that maybe would want to help on the design effort. In what way do you think they would want to help with design? Do you know them? -- -Cory K. Cory, I question your doubts about Unity. Yes, Unity does some neat things for maximized applications, but I don't think it is an inherently inferior WM for workflows with a lot of windows like in our creative world. I personally like Unity more and more, and think it deserves to be considered as default for Studio: 1. it's great 2. it means less specificities compared to vanilla ubuntu 3. concerning performance and the impact of a full-blown compiz on audio latency, we'd need benchmarks before assessing anything; do we have these? And Unity 2D (compiz-less) could be an interesting middleground Cheers, Ronan -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 UI discussion. GNOME3, Unity, XFCE andStudiousers workflow.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:43:18PM EST, Scott Lavender wrote: Essentially, the Gnome desktop environment (Gnome2 or gnome-panels) as we know it will not be included in Oneiric Ocelot [1]. We are not ditching Gnome, it is being taken away from us. We need to find a different desktop environment. This I need to correct. In no way shape or form is the classic GNOME desktop being removed from oneiric at all, it will be still available in universe if people want it, however its less and less likely to be maintained upstream, so you may be able to use it for one, maybe 2 cycles without it starting to bit rot, but I do think a decision needs to be made sooner rather than later. Luke -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[Oneiric-Topic] Packaging branches
We currently maintain most Ubuntu Desktop packages in bzr branches and use bzr-builddeb in merge mode [1] with packaging stored in lp:~ubuntu-desktop/package_name/ubuntu. The other option was to use normal mode [2], but this was not chosen at the time due to the size of checkouts. My experience since moving to bzr branches: - Much, much faster updating of packages - Branching packages is possible (e.g. working in a PPA) - Patches are a little bit harder to do, as the branch doesn't contain the files from the source tarball - People are often ignoring the branches and uploading directly (or forgetting do a bzr push) which means changes are sometimes dropped by accident - People often do merge requests to lp:ubuntu/package_name, even when there is a packaging branch So, I propose that we move all the current packaging branches to using lp:ubuntu/package_name branches. We have a few branches using this mode and have had good success with them. Some issues that will remain: - It is possible to screw up the branches so that bzr merge-package throws a confusing error (I keep doing it). Perhaps we need some hooks in bzr to stop this from occurring. If it can be broken, it will be broken (repeatedly). - Branches with a lot of history take a lot of time/bandwidth to check out. This adds a barrier to contributors, but is something that bzr hopefully will solve in the future [3] --Robert [1] http://jameswestby.net/bzr/builddeb/user_manual/merge.html [2] http://jameswestby.net/bzr/builddeb/user_manual/normal.html [3] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/46561 -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: [Oneiric-Topic] LightDM for display management
On 04/08/2011 07:42 PM, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: Le vendredi 08 avril 2011 à 19:04 +0930, Jason Warner a écrit : Thanks for proposing this. I'm particularly interested in any and all speed improvements that could come from this...and if we have less overhead in general, great! If you're using GNOME, loading a whole GNOME session when starting GDM won't induce much overhead, since you'll need to load all of those apps and libraries anyway in the login phase. It might even be better to read those files early since it makes sure ureadahead will catch them. And it ensures that once you've typed your password, the login is fast (less disk reads): since at that point we know you're sitting in front of your keyboard, better spend less time in that phase, and more in the boot per se. Of course only testing can decide which one is faster, but (for GNOME users) I don't think that's a priori so obvious. There is additional overhead in that you have to initialize the GNOME session twice, once for the gdm user and once for the user who logs in. And loading a session just to display ~10 fairly simple UI elements seems like a huge waste. I don't know enough about ureadahead, but it certainly should cache the gnome-session libraries etc, perhaps we have to whitelist them somewhere? So I think in theory it should be faster. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: [Oneiric-Topic] LightDM for display management
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 19:02:35 +1000, Robert Ancell robert.anc...@canonical.com wrote: Last cycle I proposed using LightDM to replace GDM [1]. It was deferred due to the Unity work, so time to repropose! The main reasons for switching are: - Simpler code to maintain (GDM is a huge ~50,000 line C program and we carry 36 patches. LightDM is nearer 10,000 lines of C). - More flexible greeter development - greeters are as easy as X applications to write, which means we can have an Ubuntu specific greeter that without branching the rest of the code I assume that the greeters can be written to be accessible via screenreaders etc, and that they can be localised etc as well? Thanks, James -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: [Oneiric-Topic] GTK3/GNOME3
On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 09:12 +1000, Robert Ancell wrote: On 04/07/2011 05:59 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: Hello all, kind of obvious topic, but next cycle we'll need to move to GTK3 and GNOME3. Aside from the obvious update the package versions, I see the following particular challenges: * Review our patches, and be rather aggressive about removing those which are intrusive and which we have carried for ages without upstream acceptance. Of course there are also still patches which we haven't even proposed upstream, these should be discussed in bugzilla.gnome.org. * Port pygtk2 apps to PyGI with GTK3. The biggest ones are ubiquity and software-center, but there is also quite a long tail of smaller upstream software. * Discuss GTK3 theming with UX/design. Our current murrine based Humanity theme doesn't work with GTK3. I expect that this will bind a lot of developer capacity next cycle, but at the same time it's very important that we do this to not lose track with GNOME. Martin One issue we need to tackle is the use of clutter. Applications are moving towards using clutter (e.g. cheese) and my experience with clutter has been: - Requires good 3D support - Has never seemed to work well for me... We need to work out early if we can have a hard dependency on clutter or not, and what happens if you can't run clutter applications. As discovered with enabling cairo's GL backend in bug #725434¹, if a lot of apps pick up dependencies on clutter it will have a non-trivial impact on memory usage on the nvidia binary drivers. Not much that we can do about it, but it's another thing to consider. [1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/725434 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Bug 1
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 12:16:34 +1000 Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au wrote: Further to what Peter Kukums wrote.. I have several friends who are Windows users and are no longer that impressed with it because of the virus et al matters and I could convert them to Ubuntu. However, I am simply frightened to attempt because by the time they get used to the new operating system the damn desktop environment would have changed! Might be that Kubuntu will be a better option than Ubuntu, and indeed there is some weight in the view that converting from Windows to Kubuntu may be easier than converting from Windows to Ubuntu. Probably it is more feasibile to setup a Kubuntu system to look and behave more like a Windows system. (Assumption here is that Kubuntu will still be available with KDE when 11.10 is out and later) I have a copy of Natty with its Unity desktop installed on a set of (removable) HDs as well as openSUSE with Gnome 3 on another set of HDs. My wife - who is using Maverick with gnome 2.3 - walks by, looks at the screen and asks, What's this mess on your screen?. I tell her and she categorically states, Don't you *dare* change my system!. And to make things more complicated for those starting out in Linux, there is no back-porting of applications except for security fixes. For example, Maverick comes with kernel 2.36 and FF 3.6; openSUSE with kernel 2.37 and FF 4; while Natty has kernel 2.38 and FF 4. So unless you know what you are doing and are prepared to go thru hoops there is no easy way to upgrade to FF 4 in Maverick, for example, and also to use kernel 2.38. Ideally, what you really want is a much easier way to add (and remove) ppa and 3rd party repositories to your system without having to do any of following: add repositories manually in your sources.list add repositories manually in your package manager (although thats not so hard, once you know what to add) add repositories using add-apt-repository from console Cheers Daniel. BC add repositories manually in your sources.list -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. For All your Open Source and IT requirements see: www.greenwareit.com.au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Bug 1
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 4:00 PM, danyJ danyj...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Ideally, what you really want is a much easier way to add (and remove) ppa and 3rd party repositories to your system without having to do any of following: add repositories manually in your sources.list add repositories manually in your package manager (although thats not so hard, once you know what to add) add repositories using add-apt-repository from console Although apt-add-repository will work better :-) I have my reservations on the possible switch to Unity. Regards George -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Bug 1
On 10 April 2011 09:52, danyJ danyj...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 00:32:49 +1000 peter goggin petergog...@bigpond.com wrote: If the next main release does not support Gnome then I will probably look at other Linux options. It will not be available by default in Ubuntu 11.10. But there will still be Kubuntu, or most likely Gnome will still be installable aferwards. Actually - it will be there, installed and ready - you just have to choose Ubuntu Classic as your session type :) -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Bug 1
On 10 April 2011 17:33, Chris Debenham ch...@adebenham.com wrote: On 10 April 2011 09:52, danyJ danyj...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 00:32:49 +1000 peter goggin petergog...@bigpond.com wrote: If the next main release does not support Gnome then I will probably look at other Linux options. It will not be available by default in Ubuntu 11.10. But there will still be Kubuntu, or most likely Gnome will still be installable aferwards. Actually - it will be there, installed and ready - you just have to choose Ubuntu Classic as your session type :) Whoops - meant in 11.04 - as far as I've heard for 11.10 it is still 'up in the air' -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Simplifying getting started with the Command Line
Hi Group, When I started out with Linux I knew the real gurus used the command line and that it was really powerful etc etc as I'd read a lot of magazines etc that kept promoting it. The problem was and still is that when you open a terminal you are met with a prompt and a flashing cursor and the rest of the screen is blank. I knew about the man pages but that just frustrated me more. 1 of my friends is a long time Linux user and I would say to him Whats the point of having the man pages when I don't know what the commands are to start with? I can hardly type $ man command if I don't know the command now can I? Anyway my point is this. After almost 12 months of frustration I finally found out about the man -k keyword command. I couldn't understand why this wasn't displayed in a new terminal above the prompt so you could see it the first time you logged in. Then I also found the apropos command. Is there a reason the Linux community makes it so hard to learn the command line? What I propose is a simple First time here? try man -k keyword to get you started Is this a possibility? -- Regards Nathaniel http://about.me/nathanieloffer -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Simplifying getting started with the Command Line
From: Nathaniel nathanie...@gmail.com To: Ubuntu AU List ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sun, 10 April, 2011 6:40:56 PM Subject: Simplifying getting started with the Command Line What I propose is a simple First time here? try man -k keyword to get you started_ That would get old very quickly, but I do sympathise. Back in the bad ol' days before open source, and almost back before the internet (certainly before it was called The Web) operating systems like SCO Unix came with a thick manual. This had most of what you needed to get started, but it wasn't a comprehensive guide by any means. One of the things it did show was man -k, and from there you were mostly expected to find your own way. Things are very much easier now, and next to man -k Google is probably your best friend. It helps to know what you're looking for though, and in this case it's a primer on the terminal shell, which is called bash. Most primers will probably start with an explanation of just why it's called that. A quick search found the following primer: http://www.faqs.org/docs/bashman/bashref_toc.html which looks better than some, but not as good it might be. Some searching will find others that you might find more (or less) useful. A good primer might take you from the very basics (what is bash) right through to basic bash scripting after which you might be ready for some of the more advanced scripting tutorials. I'm about halfway somewhere myself, being rather keen but lacking any real time to spend on it. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Simplifying getting started with the Command Line
--- From: Nathaniel nathanie...@gmail.com To: Chris Robinson fabricat...@yahoo.com Sent: Sun, 10 April, 2011 9:51:50 PM Subject: Re: Simplifying getting started with the Command Line I'm sure this would be possible. Absolutely, in about three lines of code. If you want to see what it looks like, paste the following into your ~/.bashrc file: # Nathaniel's one time man -k prompt if [ ! -f ~/.bashflag ]; then echo First time here? try man -k keyword to get you started echo Also Google bash tutorial echo Done ~/.bashflag fi make a backup copy of your .bashrc file first: cp ~/.bashrc ~/bashrc.bkup and when you're finished copy the backup back again: cp ~/bashrc.bkup ~/.bashrc Then remove the flag file that was created: rm ~/.bashflag The use of .bashflag is a bit of a kludge, done because I really didn't wan't to mess with any of the bash init files. Note that files starting with a '.' are hidden files. Chris.-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Simplifying getting started with the Command Line
I guess there are some people out there that think the command-line way is the bee's knees in terms of CLI vs. GUI. I, for one, don't share this view and simply think of the idea that you use the tool that's best for the job. Compared to many people on this list, I'd class myself as a novice CLI user. The way I did it was learning the basic commands to get you around the filesystem: ls, cd, ls -l, tar, sudo, man, cp, mv, rm, mkdir, apt-get, grep, touch, nano, vi (trying to learn) etc. And up until this point I haven't really felt the need to learn any more. I like adding commands to my toolchain as the need arises. You pick up things here and there but you learn to use them by simply using them. Try to take it slow. I don't know where you're up to at the moment but I tried to install/remove applications via apt-get rather than add/remove or synaptic. Sure, you'll think it takes longer to do it the CLI way but after you get the gist of the commands and their options, it'll be more enjoyable and take less time. Learn to use/rely on tab complete where possible. I remember being a noobfessional when I was trying to install Mediawiki as a local install. Try typing out tar xvzf mediawiki-1.9.2-3ubuntu4~svn20100323.2-34 etc etc with errors being spat out. It's a tough road but it's worth it. I use irssi and mplayer just because it's easier and quicker than to use a GUI application. Personal taste though... Hi Group, When I started out with Linux I knew the real gurus used the command line and that it was really powerful etc etc as I'd read a lot of magazines etc that kept promoting it. The problem was and still is that when you open a terminal you are met with a prompt and a flashing cursor and the rest of the screen is blank. I knew about the man pages but that just frustrated me more. 1 of my friends is a long time Linux user and I would say to him Whats the point of having the man pages when I don't know what the commands are to start with? I can hardly type $ man command if I don't know the command now can I? Anyway my point is this. After almost 12 months of frustration I finally found out about the man -k keyword command. I couldn't understand why this wasn't displayed in a new terminal above the prompt so you could see it the first time you logged in. Then I also found the apropos command. Is there a reason the Linux community makes it so hard to learn the command line? What I propose is a simple First time here? try man -k keyword to get you started Is this a possibility? -- Regards Nathaniel http://about.me/nathanieloffer -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Simplifying getting started with the Command Line
Hi All, Install this via Software Centre or synaptic or follow the instructions on these pages. clicompanion - OKWiki Command Line Little Helper: CLI Companion - Linux Magazine Online Regards Robyn -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: windows7 dual boot
On 11/04/2011 10:30, Peter Watts wrote: I have read somewhere that MINT will not be using Unity, This an other distros built on Ubuntu my be a better option. Thanks Peter Mint is simply a re-work of Ubuntu. However, I also did read somewhere that it will have a fork which will maintain and continue to use the gnome DE. But then comes the question: will they continue to maintain gnome 2.3 or switch to the gnome shell (whatever the heck that is!) or to gnome 3? BC -- Great Man reaches complete understanding of the main issues; Petty Man reaches complete understanding of the minute details. Confucius -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: »Cancel« untranslated in login dialog (German)?
Dennis Baudys schreef op za 09-04-2011 om 20:33 [+0200]: Hello Ubuntu Translators! I have a little question regarding the current Natty beta version and wanted to know, whether some of you are also experiencing this phenomenon: 1.) When logging in to Ubuntu, the login dialog has two buttons, the LEFT one (»Cancel«) appears to be untranslated (at least in German) though it was already translated a long time ago. Can I assume this will be fixed automagically? Well … where should I look for that string? Is this really a »new« string or just another bug that does only affect the German translation? Thank you very much in advance for your testing results. With kind regards, I've noticed the same for Dutch(nl). I checked in gdm but it does not contain the string 'cancel', so I'm not sure where the string is comming from. It would be nice if a problem with such a visible string could be resolved, so if anyone has any ideas on this I'd love to hear it. Greets, Redmar -- Ubuntu Dutch Translators signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
UI Freeze Exception Request: Open apt: URIs with Software Center
While working on getting the Gnome user docs ready for Ubuntu 11.04, I came across this bug where apt: URIs are opened by a small apturl installer window instead of by Software Center. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apturl/+bug/426215 According to the Software Center specifications, Software Center should handle these links: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#apturl Benefits of this change: When installing software from an apt link, users will be able to see a screenshot, ratings and reviews (file size, version number, etc.) as opposed to only seeing a small installer window with the software description. Ubuntu Software Center is a much better looking and more useful interface than the simple apturl window. Caveat: This still won't affect apt: URIs typed into Firefox as ubufox calls apturl directly. http://pad.lv/634915 This will however benefit apt: links in yelp. I am already working with Jim Campbell to ensure that the Ubuntu docs reflect this change. Jeremy Bicha -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: [OT] Re: rt kernel
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 06:37 +0200, ailo wrote: [snip] What I need is a system that works, flawlessly. Flawlessly means, I don't suffer crashes in the middle of a performance, and I don't hear irregularities caused by the system. Finding that out may be a different experience for people, because of a range of variables. One of them being what hardware is used. Another being what the system is used for. I have yet not worked with -lowlatency for long periods of time, like I have with previous -rt kernels. So far, it does seem as -lowlatency will serve my purposes well. Only one -rt kernel has done that for me so far, but I have not been in this game for very long. If I remember correctly, we had just one bad kernel-rt in recent years. I guess this was at a time when there was a big step forward for real-time audio. Instability on my computer is caused by JACK or JACK clients. For example, Qtractor (any version I did use) crashes very often, if you set up FluidSynth DSSI (any version I did use) during a production. Once it's set up, Qtractor + FluidSynth DSSI are stable for performance. I'm using a script to kill'n'launch all audio apps during a production session, if an app should crash. Two days ago I add 2GB RAM, now I've got 4GB main memory. The 4GB are accessible by my old 64-bit Linux installs, but Maverick is a 32-bit install on my 64-bit machine and here I only get ... edubuntu@edubuntu:/boot$ cat config-2.6.33.7.2-rt30 | grep HIGHMEM # CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y edubuntu@edubuntu:/boot$ hwinfo --memory 01: None 00.0: 10102 Main Memory [Created at memory.61] Unique ID: rdCR.CxwsZFjVASF Hardware Class: memory Model: Main Memory Memory Range: 0x-0xcb5abfff (rw) Memory Size: 3 GB + 256 MB Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown ... I wonder if I need to enable 64G HIGHMEM and if this would be ok with the RT-patch. Special wishes usually are no big deal for default kernels, but those could be a pain for the RT-patch. This is the first time I do have a special wish, usually I'm fine with RT-PREEMPT-kernels for everything I do with a computer. Ok, there's one additional exception for a short while, I need the generic kernel on Ubuntu to get NVIDIA 3D support. Btw. on JACK devel mailing list we were ask to test JACK from svn and to run a JACK MIDI latency test. If the measurements on my machine for ... edubuntu@edubuntu:/boot$ jackd -V jackdmp 1.9.8 ... and my PCI card should be ok, my computer is able to do hard real-time for MIDI. I got an averaged MIDI jitter of 0.00 ms (0.02 frames) and a peak MIDI jitter of 0.06 ms (3 frames). This would mean, that jitter was caused by JACK MIDI or ALSA MIDI. Regarding to it's protocol or hardware, jitter still is caused by USB MIDI devices. Until now I only did the measurements but no audio test. Is somebody is interested in doing the test too, I'll write how to build JACK dummy packages and how to install and uninstall JACK from SVN. Building JACK dummy packages and compiling JACK from svn just takes some minutes and is easy to do. Too funny, Rui, coder of the 'Q'-audio-apps, qjackctl, qsynth etc. said that latest PREEMPT kernel release candidate version 'feels' like RT PREEMPT for his desktop. Cheers, Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: help, jackd crashing, don't know why
El 09/04/11 22:47, Andrew escribió: Are you using qtjackctl or launching from a script/command line? Andrew Euell The Sound of IT - High tech solutions for audio problems -Original Message- From: wfdudley wfdud...@gmail.com Sender: ubuntu-studio-users-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 14:18:59 To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: help, jackd crashing, don't know why Hi, I upgraded my ubuntu studio box to Lucid Lynx and now jackd is crashing. Here's the log: 09:49:11.871 Patchbay deactivated. 09:49:11.914 Statistics reset. 09:49:12.068 ALSA connection graph change. 09:49:12.427 ALSA connection change. 09:49:21.874 Startup script... 09:49:21.876 artsshell -q terminate sh: artsshell: not found 09:49:22.280 Startup script terminated with exit status=32512. 09:49:22.281 JACK is starting... 09:49:22.283 /usr/bin/jackd -v -dalsa -dhw:0 -r44100 -p1024 -n3 jackd 0.118.0 Copyright 2001-2009 Paul Davis, Stephane Letz, Jack O'Quinn, Torben Hohn and others. jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details Memory locking is unlimited - this is dangerous. You should probably alter the line: @audio - memlockunlimited in your /etc/limits.conf to read: @audio - memlock354993 09:49:22.318 JACK was started with PID=4646 getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib/jack/jack_dummy.so getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib/jack/jack_alsa.so getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib/jack/jack_firewire.so no message buffer overruns getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib/jack/jack_net.so getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib/jack/jack_oss.so JACK compiled with System V SHM support. server `default' registered registered builtin port type 32 bit float mono audio registered builtin port type 8 bit raw midi clock source = system clock via clock_gettime start poll on 3 fd's loading driver .. apparent rate = 44100 creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|3|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32 bit control device hw:0 new client: alsa_pcm, id = 1 type 1 @ 0x8fe7df8 fd = -1 09:49:24.722 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Please check the messages window for more info. server thread back from poll new client: qjackctl, id = 2 type 2 @ 0xb788c000 fd = 13 start poll on 4 fd's cannot read event connect result from server (interrupted system call) 09:49:25.155 JACK was stopped successfully. 09:49:25.162 Post-shutdown script... 09:49:25.164 killall jackd 09:49:25.165 Jack has crashed. jackd: no process found 09:49:25.661 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit status=256. The result of uname -a: Linux hdrec 2.6.31-11-rt #154-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Wed Jun 9 12:28:53 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux Current Ubuntu version: Lucid Lynx Is there anything more I should be reporting? Thanks in advance, Bill Dudley avid ubuntu user I think you have little RAM, 512 MB or so? Check ls /dev/shm. The problem could have to do with this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jack-audio-connection-kit/+bug/491329 (This bug affects many more than 4 people even if they don't know, which is the worst case). See also: http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=27t=2790 Cheers! Pablo -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: help, jackd crashing, don't know why
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 10:55 +0200, Pablo Fernández wrote: I think you have little RAM, 512 MB or so? Check ls /dev/shm. The problem could have to do with this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jack-audio-connection-kit/+bug/491329 (This bug affects many more than 4 people even if they don't know, which is the worst case). See also: http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=27t=2790 Cheers! Pablo The polyp grabs at everything to fit to coders needs and distribution needs, but it high and mighty ignores the users needs. Thank you very much desktop environments for switching to PolypAudio. On my Maverick install I don't have audio for 'desktop' apps (tested with Youtube by Firefox only), there's only audio for JACK clients. Usually this will solve the issue: edubuntu@edubuntu:~$ cat /usr/share/alsa/cards/ICE1712.conf # # Configuration for the ICE1712 (Envy24) chip # [snip] confdir:pcm/front.conf ICE1712.pcm.front.0 { @args [ CARD ] @args.CARD { type string } type route ttable.0.0 1 ttable.1.1 1 slave.pcm { type hw card $CARD } fix PA issue slave.format S32_LE slave.channels 10 ## } [snip] For this install it doesn't. Paternalism doesn't stop, X became a PITA for tube monitors, the kernel's default for CPU frequency scaling is 'corrected', so we'll save around 1 W, for the coast of xruns all the time. edubuntu@edubuntu:~$ hwinfo --cpu | grep Clock Clock: 1000 MHz Clock: 1000 MHz edubuntu@edubuntu:~$ cat /boot/config-2.6.33.7.2-rt30 | grep CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_PERFORMANCE=y # CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_POWERSAVE is not set # CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE is not set # CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_ONDEMAND is not set # CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_CONSERVATIVE is not set edubuntu@edubuntu:~$ sudo cpufreq-selector -g performance [sudo] password for edubuntu: ^C edubuntu@edubuntu:~$ hwinfo --cpu | grep Clock Clock: 2100 MHz Clock: 2100 MHz What script does set frequency scaling to ondemand? This wasn't my choice. I installed wanderlust as mail client and emacs replaced my nautilus default editor gedit, without my permission to do this. Mouse wheel seldom works on my Maverick install. Often grub.cfg is overwritten by a package without permission to do that. The distro is working against my needs. I set up my Linux, but Ubuntu re-edits some of those settings, by completely useless settings. I'm near to switch to another distro. Regarding to PulseAudio this won't be a help, but at least the rest would be ok. Before I do upgrades, I backup my Maverick install. Regarding to the needs of the user, the distro shouldn't try to be smarter as the user is. Ubuntu is MY TOOL, I do know what I do need and what I don't need. Pardon for running of the track. What exactly are the advantages of PA in Ubuntu Studio, resp. for a DAW? PA needs to be turned of by default. 2 Cents, Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: help, jackd crashing, don't know why
On 10/04/11 10:50, Ralf wrote: PA needs to be turned of by default. +1 Mark -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: help, jackd crashing, don't know why
Using qtjackctl. Bill On 4/9/11, Andrew and...@thesoundofit.com wrote: Are you using qtjackctl or launching from a script/command line? Andrew Euell The Sound of IT - High tech solutions for audio problems -Original Message- From: wfdudley wfdud...@gmail.com Sender: ubuntu-studio-users-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 14:18:59 To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: help, jackd crashing, don't know why Hi, I upgraded my ubuntu studio box to Lucid Lynx and now jackd is crashing. Here's the log: 09:49:11.871 Patchbay deactivated. 09:49:11.914 Statistics reset. 09:49:12.068 ALSA connection graph change. 09:49:12.427 ALSA connection change. 09:49:21.874 Startup script... 09:49:21.876 artsshell -q terminate sh: artsshell: not found 09:49:22.280 Startup script terminated with exit status=32512. 09:49:22.281 JACK is starting... 09:49:22.283 /usr/bin/jackd -v -dalsa -dhw:0 -r44100 -p1024 -n3 jackd 0.118.0 Copyright 2001-2009 Paul Davis, Stephane Letz, Jack O'Quinn, Torben Hohn and others. jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details Memory locking is unlimited - this is dangerous. You should probably alter the line: @audio - memlockunlimited in your /etc/limits.conf to read: @audio - memlock354993 09:49:22.318 JACK was started with PID=4646 getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib/jack/jack_dummy.so getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib/jack/jack_alsa.so getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib/jack/jack_firewire.so no message buffer overruns getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib/jack/jack_net.so getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib/jack/jack_oss.so JACK compiled with System V SHM support. server `default' registered registered builtin port type 32 bit float mono audio registered builtin port type 8 bit raw midi clock source = system clock via clock_gettime start poll on 3 fd's loading driver .. apparent rate = 44100 creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|3|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32 bit control device hw:0 new client: alsa_pcm, id = 1 type 1 @ 0x8fe7df8 fd = -1 09:49:24.722 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Please check the messages window for more info. server thread back from poll new client: qjackctl, id = 2 type 2 @ 0xb788c000 fd = 13 start poll on 4 fd's cannot read event connect result from server (interrupted system call) 09:49:25.155 JACK was stopped successfully. 09:49:25.162 Post-shutdown script... 09:49:25.164 killall jackd 09:49:25.165 Jack has crashed. jackd: no process found 09:49:25.661 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit status=256. The result of uname -a: Linux hdrec 2.6.31-11-rt #154-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Wed Jun 9 12:28:53 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux Current Ubuntu version: Lucid Lynx Is there anything more I should be reporting? Thanks in advance, Bill Dudley avid ubuntu user -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: help, jackd crashing, don't know why
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 13:16 +0100, mark wrote: On 10/04/11 10:50, Ralf wrote: PA needs to be turned of by default. +1 Mark I never disabled PA myself, for 64 Studio 3.3, based on Ubuntu, it's disabled by default. Perhaps some of those howtos will work?! Mark or anybody else, do you know how to disable PA for Maverick GNOME sessions or how to disable it completely? I guess I'll try one of those howtos within the next days. http://www.google.com/linux?hl=enq=ubuntu+disable +pulseaudiobtnG=Search 'How do I get rid of PulseAudio? * This has changed, since it's using autospawn. You need to disable that by editing /etc/pulse/client.conf and changing autospawn = yes on line 26 to autospawn = no. Additionally, if this is a clean install, not an upgrade, you'll need to add your user to the audio group with sudo adduser USER audio replacing USER with your username.' http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2009/04/jaunty-faq.html http://www.google.com/linux?hl=enq=ubuntu+maverick+disable +pulseaudiobtnG=Search -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: help, jackd crashing, don't know why
adding ram from 512M to 1024M fixed it. Thanks! Bill Dudley On 4/10/11, Pablo Fernández pablo.f...@gmail.com wrote: El 09/04/11 22:47, Andrew escribió: Are you using qtjackctl or launching from a script/command line? Andrew Euell The Sound of IT - High tech solutions for audio problems -Original Message- From: wfdudley wfdud...@gmail.com Sender: ubuntu-studio-users-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 14:18:59 To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: help, jackd crashing, don't know why Hi, I upgraded my ubuntu studio box to Lucid Lynx and now jackd is crashing. Here's the log: 09:49:11.871 Patchbay deactivated. 09:49:11.914 Statistics reset. 09:49:12.068 ALSA connection graph change. 09:49:12.427 ALSA connection change. 09:49:21.874 Startup script... 09:49:21.876 artsshell -q terminate sh: artsshell: not found 09:49:22.280 Startup script terminated with exit status=32512. 09:49:22.281 JACK is starting... 09:49:22.283 /usr/bin/jackd -v -dalsa -dhw:0 -r44100 -p1024 -n3 jackd 0.118.0 Copyright 2001-2009 Paul Davis, Stephane Letz, Jack O'Quinn, Torben Hohn and others. jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details Memory locking is unlimited - this is dangerous. You should probably alter the line: @audio - memlockunlimited in your /etc/limits.conf to read: @audio - memlock354993 09:49:22.318 JACK was started with PID=4646 getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib/jack/jack_dummy.so getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib/jack/jack_alsa.so getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib/jack/jack_firewire.so no message buffer overruns getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib/jack/jack_net.so getting driver descriptor from /usr/lib/jack/jack_oss.so JACK compiled with System V SHM support. server `default' registered registered builtin port type 32 bit float mono audio registered builtin port type 8 bit raw midi clock source = system clock via clock_gettime start poll on 3 fd's loading driver .. apparent rate = 44100 creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|3|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32 bit control device hw:0 new client: alsa_pcm, id = 1 type 1 @ 0x8fe7df8 fd = -1 09:49:24.722 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Please check the messages window for more info. server thread back from poll new client: qjackctl, id = 2 type 2 @ 0xb788c000 fd = 13 start poll on 4 fd's cannot read event connect result from server (interrupted system call) 09:49:25.155 JACK was stopped successfully. 09:49:25.162 Post-shutdown script... 09:49:25.164 killall jackd 09:49:25.165 Jack has crashed. jackd: no process found 09:49:25.661 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit status=256. The result of uname -a: Linux hdrec 2.6.31-11-rt #154-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Wed Jun 9 12:28:53 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux Current Ubuntu version: Lucid Lynx Is there anything more I should be reporting? Thanks in advance, Bill Dudley avid ubuntu user I think you have little RAM, 512 MB or so? Check ls /dev/shm. The problem could have to do with this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jack-audio-connection-kit/+bug/491329 (This bug affects many more than 4 people even if they don't know, which is the worst case). See also: http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=27t=2790 Cheers! Pablo -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
What's off topic for this list?
Hi :) would it be ok to sent a request regarding to an emacs mailer configuration file ;)? I guess asking about issues regarding to timidity for emacs would be ok, but requests about mail clients etc. might be spam when searching the mailing list archive. OTOH subscribing to a special mailing list regarding to this issue, isn't worth the bother for me, resp. it's not worth the bother for any issues that have less to do with music, graphics and studio stuff like that, because trouble for non-studio-apps most of the times can be solved by searching the web. Sorry and have a nice weekend, Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: help, jackd crashing, don't know why
El 10/04/11 14:52, wfdudley escribió: adding ram from 512M to 1024M fixed it. Thanks! Bill Dudley Well, I was not exactly saying that the problem was lack of RAM although more RAM is better of course. I guessed you had 512 MB because of this message: Memory locking is unlimited - this is dangerous. You should probably alter the line: @audio - memlockunlimited in your /etc/limits.conf to read: @audio - memlock354993 This suggestion on the memlock limit is 75% of your total RAM, in kb. The real problem is not the lack of memory but pulseaudio locking it. Manually cleaning /dev/shm is a must if you have little RAM and even with 1 GB you could have problems.. Avoiding pulseaudio althogether can be a good idea or not, depending on your needs. I am not sure if pulseaudio should be left out of US or not, but this bug[1] is a major drawback. It affects many more than 4 people yet is marked as won't fix. [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jack-audio-connection-kit/+bug/491329 Cheers! Pablo -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: help, jackd crashing, don't know why
When jackd crashes on a freshly booted machine, the problem isn't left over files in /dev/shm, the problem is PA allocating all that memory in the first place. Since I've given up on expecting bugs to be fixed in my lifetime, and I had a DIMM lying about, adding memory was cheap 'n' easy. I did nukem PA from my laptop, it won't work with Skype. I did it by renaming a binary somewhere. crude but effective. rantI really have given up on expecting bug fixes. Audacity won't show an input selector control, hasn't for several years, the audacity guys know about it but don't seem to care. So I don't expect to ever record using audacity. Oh well. /rant Bill Dudley On 4/10/11, Pablo Fernández pablo.f...@gmail.com wrote: El 10/04/11 14:52, wfdudley escribió: adding ram from 512M to 1024M fixed it. Thanks! Bill Dudley Well, I was not exactly saying that the problem was lack of RAM although more RAM is better of course. I guessed you had 512 MB because of this message: Memory locking is unlimited - this is dangerous. You should probably alter the line: @audio - memlockunlimited in your /etc/limits.conf to read: @audio - memlock354993 This suggestion on the memlock limit is 75% of your total RAM, in kb. The real problem is not the lack of memory but pulseaudio locking it. Manually cleaning /dev/shm is a must if you have little RAM and even with 1 GB you could have problems.. Avoiding pulseaudio althogether can be a good idea or not, depending on your needs. I am not sure if pulseaudio should be left out of US or not, but this bug[1] is a major drawback. It affects many more than 4 people yet is marked as won't fix. [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jack-audio-connection-kit/+bug/491329 Cheers! Pablo -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Maverick and Delta 1010lt
I've been using US 10.04 for awhile on an older machine. I picked up a newer machine and decided to move my Delta 1010lt card to this machine and install US 10.10. What a nightmare it has been as I've been dealing with issues with lowlatency kernels, nvidia drivers and now the 1010lt card. Let me tell you this is not for the faint of heart as I've been working at this for 4-5 days now. Anyways, I won't go into the nvidia issues and the lowlatency kernel issues for now. What I'm trying to get working is sound through my 1010lt at least. I've actually got an on board sound card that I've disabled in BIOS so I can focus on the 1010lt. I'm able to get sound out of the card using Jack and Hydrogen and I even get a test sound from the terminal with aplay. However, I'm not getting squat for system sounds, audacious, firefox etc. I can't believe this problem with the ICE1712 cards has been around for so long and there is nothing but numerous workarounds and they work part of the time, but not all of the time. Now, I'm just hopelessly lost in workaround hell. Ok, so ranting off now. I followed several bug reports and I think those have at least allowed me to get the sound card working through Jack. However, I still have no sound via the system. Any ideas on what I can do to get this sovled? Any nice, easy to follow (all solutions in one easy thread instead of following numerous links with just a small fix each) solutions out there? Would it be better to get the BIOS sound card working for system sounds and the 1010lt for Jack etc? I would like to be able to record some system sounds like sound clips from video files or other such stuff, but I think that can be done through some of the Jack pluggins. Should I just wait until 11.04 comes out and hope most of this has been addressed? I think the lowlatency is being better addressed in Natty at least. Thank you for any suggestions you may have. Brian -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Maverick and Delta 1010lt
On 04/11/2011 03:41 AM, Brian Blater wrote: I've been using US 10.04 for awhile on an older machine. I picked up a newer machine and decided to move my Delta 1010lt card to this machine and install US 10.10. What a nightmare it has been as I've been dealing with issues with lowlatency kernels, nvidia drivers and now the 1010lt card. Let me tell you this is not for the faint of heart as I've been working at this for 4-5 days now. Anyways, I won't go into the nvidia issues and the lowlatency kernel issues for now. nvidia drivers won't work if you use a kernel that is not meant for Maverick. I assume you are using a kernel for another distro. nvidia drivers can be made to work of course. You would either need to build them yourself, or add them manually from a repo that matches the kernel (I would believe), however, I would not recommend you to do this. What I'm trying to get working is sound through my 1010lt at least. I've actually got an on board sound card that I've disabled in BIOS so I can focus on the 1010lt. I'm able to get sound out of the card using Jack and Hydrogen and I even get a test sound from the terminal with aplay. However, I'm not getting squat for system sounds, audacious, firefox etc. I can't believe this problem with the ICE1712 cards has been around for so long and there is nothing but numerous workarounds and they work part of the time, but not all of the time. Now, I'm just hopelessly lost in workaround hell. Unfortunately there is a problem in how the ice1712 is presented to pulseaudio. This is why you get no desktop sound, but it should be easy to fix. To copy what Ralf wrote in another post on this list (edit the file /usr/share/alsa/cards/ICE1712.conf)... # # Configuration for the ICE1712 (Envy24) chip # [snip] confdir:pcm/front.conf ICE1712.pcm.front.0 { @args [ CARD ] @args.CARD { type string } type route ttable.0.0 1 ttable.1.1 1 slave.pcm { type hw card $CARD } fix PA issue slave.format S32_LE slave.channels 10 ## } [snip] Ok, so ranting off now. I followed several bug reports and I think those have at least allowed me to get the sound card working through Jack. ice1712 will always work with jack. You might have neglected to raise some volumse at first. An easy mistake to make, which I have made myself many times. Did you check out envy24control? It is a mixer for ice1712 cards. I recommend to use that. I can understand your frustration. I have went through the same thing myself. Unfortunately the problem with getting ice1712 to work with pulseaudio has been a long lingering problem (3 years and counting, I think). I'm hoping Ubuntu Studio 11.10 will include a way to fix this, if yet not fixed on regular Ubuntu. However, I still have no sound via the system. Any ideas on what I can do to get this sovled? Any nice, easy to follow (all solutions in one easy thread instead of following numerous links with just a small fix each) solutions out there? Would it be better to get the BIOS sound card working for system sounds and the 1010lt for Jack etc? I would like to be able to record some system sounds like sound clips from video files or other such stuff, but I think that can be done through some of the Jack pluggins. Should I just wait until 11.04 comes out and hope most of this has been addressed? I think the lowlatency is being better addressed in Natty at least. There will be no -lowlatency included in Natty's repos. There is one available here: http://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa. The -generic kernel is quite good on Natty, and hopefully that will already be enough for many people. Thank you for any suggestions you may have. Brian -- ailo -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: help, jackd crashing, don't know why
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 20:26 -0400, wfdudley wrote: I've given up on expecting bugs to be fixed in my lifetime I started in November 2003 by buying Suse 9.0 Student Version and a less good Internet access. Since that time I didn't finished any audio production in a satisfying way using Linux, but Linux audio made great strides since that time and I needed to spend money in upgrading my computer hardware, only because of hardware issues regarding to Linux. I don't expect far advanced apps, e.g. Rosegarden and Ardour to fit to my needs, but apps like Muse or Qtractor are shapeable for users with different needs to that established apps. Qtractor is one of my favourite apps. If there's a bug, I report it to the qtractor devel mailing list, resp. to Rui and usually he fix it within a hour. Rui seems to be 24/7 online. Of course Rui programs Qtractor for a community and himself and not only for me, so he e.g. spend his time for automation, while I don't set great value on automation, but e.g. would like to have a different management for saving and restoring Qtractor projects. Anyway, we can - learn how to program for Linux. Not really an option for me, I was a coder for audio software on oldish computers and I'm used to program for non-multitask in Assembler. I don't like C, especially not C on Linux, I prefer to be a user instead of retraining myself. - be tough and insist on pointing out issues. This is a balancing act. I've got a bad record in the Linux community, because I didn't balance good, OTOH, I was quieter for a while and still will be quieter and I'm welcome most of the times, regarding to test MIDI stuff. Yes while some people wish(ed) to ban me other won't miss me. - win over other people to use Linux (only) too and help them to set up their machines. So more people with your or my needs will join the Linux community. Note that bugs are reported and good stuff isn't reported. Note that the most bad bugs aren't reported, people simply use other operating systems instead. The coders do not really know what users wish to have, because the Linux audio community mainly are male nerds. Another issue is, that the UNIX/LINUX/POSIX religion is a golden calf and an additional balancing act is needed to handle this. What's important for a good multiuser system, for office and consumer needs, doesn't make sense for audio/MIDI workstations all the times. I don't use the toaster to clean my clothes and I don't use the washing machine to roast bread. A sledgehammer and a screwdriver for watchmakers for a multitool isn't a usable combination, if somebody does need both, two separated tools are needed. I did nukem PA from my laptop, it won't work with Skype. I did it by renaming a binary somewhere. crude but effective. No unwanted side-effect? -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Maverick and Delta 1010lt
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 21:41 -0400, Brian Blater wrote: Would it be better to get the BIOS sound card working for system sounds and the 1010lt for Jack etc? IMO the crappy onboard sound devices should always be disabled. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Maverick and Delta 1010lt
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 04:26 +0200, ailo wrote: nvidia drivers won't work if you use a kernel that is not meant for Maverick. I assume you are using a kernel for another distro. nvidia drivers can be made to work of course. You would either need to build them yourself, or add them manually from a repo that matches the kernel (I would believe), however, I would not recommend you to do this. /etc/rcS.d README S13pcmciautils S25brltty S37apparmor S47lm-sensors S55urandom S69switch_xorg.conf S70x11-common I added S69switch_xorg.conf to switch between two xorg.conf. One for the generic Kernel + the proprietary driver added by the repositories and another for a self-build preemption real-time kernel: #! /bin/sh # /etc/rcS.d/Switch_xorg_conf rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf case $(uname -r) in *rt*) cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;; *) cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;; esac Unfortunately there is a problem in how the ice1712 is presented to pulseaudio. This is why you get no desktop sound, but it should be easy to fix. To copy what Ralf wrote in another post on this list (edit the file /usr/share/alsa/cards/ICE1712.conf)... I guess it doesn't work for Maverick. My Maverick seems to be very good for audio production, but I still have to set up countless configurations. IMO we should get rid of PA. Ok, so ranting off now. :D I shouldn't switch the distro and you shouldn't switch to Natty. Did you check out envy24control? It is a mixer for ice1712 cards. I recommend to use that. I wonder that the successor isn't implemented, anyway, envy24control is ok too. There will be no -lowlatency included in Natty's repos. There is one available here: http://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa. The -generic kernel is quite good on Natty, and hopefully that will already be enough for many people. Is there any information about what a maintainer needs to take care? How to crosscompile for different architectures etc.? --- We should rework and collect together solutions for problems. Perhaps somebody can post this at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio There's no Documentation Team! Unfortunately my English is broken and I don't have that much knowledge, but I'm willing to write some workarounds. Some people here with more knowledge might write howtos and link to that howtos as replies to mails, instead of writing this just in a mails. - Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Maverick and Delta 1010lt
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 06:00 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I added S69switch_xorg.conf to switch between two xorg.conf. One for the generic Kernel + the proprietary driver added by the repositories and another for a self-build preemption real-time kernel: I've forgotten to write that for the kernel-rt the xorg.conf is using the FLOSS driver, because I couldn't add the proprietary driver. On Suse 64-bit I'm using an older self-build kernel 2.6.31.6-rt19 and manually added the proprietary driver, for Maverick 32-bit and 2.6.33.7.2-rt30 I'm unable to do the same. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Maverick and Delta 1010lt
On 04/11/2011 06:00 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 04:26 +0200, ailo wrote: nvidia drivers won't work if you use a kernel that is not meant for Maverick. I assume you are using a kernel for another distro. nvidia drivers can be made to work of course. You would either need to build them yourself, or add them manually from a repo that matches the kernel (I would believe), however, I would not recommend you to do this. /etc/rcS.d README S13pcmciautils S25brltty S37apparmor S47lm-sensors S55urandom S69switch_xorg.conf S70x11-common I added S69switch_xorg.conf to switch between two xorg.conf. One for the generic Kernel + the proprietary driver added by the repositories and another for a self-build preemption real-time kernel: #! /bin/sh # /etc/rcS.d/Switch_xorg_conf rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf case $(uname -r) in *rt*) cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;; *) cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;; esac I believe this might be a little over the top for new users. Just saying.. Unfortunately there is a problem in how the ice1712 is presented to pulseaudio. This is why you get no desktop sound, but it should be easy to fix. To copy what Ralf wrote in another post on this list (edit the file /usr/share/alsa/cards/ICE1712.conf)... I guess it doesn't work for Maverick. My Maverick seems to be very good for audio production, but I still have to set up countless configurations. IMO we should get rid of PA. Ok, so ranting off now. :D I shouldn't switch the distro and you shouldn't switch to Natty. Why is that? Just wondering. Did you check out envy24control? It is a mixer for ice1712 cards. I recommend to use that. I wonder that the successor isn't implemented, anyway, envy24control is ok too. There will be no -lowlatency included in Natty's repos. There is one available here: http://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa. The -generic kernel is quite good on Natty, and hopefully that will already be enough for many people. Is there any information about what a maintainer needs to take care? How to crosscompile for different architectures etc.? --- We should rework and collect together solutions for problems. Perhaps somebody can post this at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio There's no Documentation Team! There is serious effort being made to redeem the lack of a clean and comprehensive documentation for Ubuntu Studio. This work should be done before the release of Ubuntu Studio 11.10. Help is appreciated. The goal of the documentation aught to be make it as simple as possible for the user to learn how to use the system for multimedia tasks. If you write something up, I will be happy to help with editing, even though my English may not be that much better than yours. Unfortunately my English is broken and I don't have that much knowledge, but I'm willing to write some workarounds. Some people here with more knowledge might write howtos and link to that howtos as replies to mails, instead of writing this just in a mails. - Ralf -- ailo -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Receptor TV Digital ISDB-T
On 10-04-2011 00:20, Ronaldo Linux Debate wrote: PessoALL, Alguém já conseguiu instalar este dispositivo no Ubuntu Linux? Receptor de TV Digital Ezcap modelo EzTv Eu venho googleando há alguns dias mas nao encontrei nada que fizesse funcionar. Alguém pode dar um ajudinha ? Resposta do lsusb *Bus 001 Device 002: ID 187f:0201 * Resposta dmesg [ 1922.988420] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 [ 1923.121188] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 1923.122709] usb 1-1: firmware: requesting dvb_nova_12mhz_b0.inp [ 1923.692391] smscore_set_device_mode: firmware download success: dvb_nova_12mhz_b0.inp Não é o mesmo modelo de tua placa, mas certamente tem muita informação que te ajudará a resolver o problema: http://dougsland.livejournal.com/103169.html?thread=99073 glib -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Problemas no 10.10
A questão do idioma, não sei se é o mesmo problema, mas aconteceu comigo tb, na tela de login, em baixo tem a opção de escolher o idioma, tem dois português Brasil, um em italico e o outro normal, agora não lembro a opção certa, mas alterando entre os dois, resolve.. Em 10 de abril de 2011 00:49, Erasmo José Pereira de Oliveira erasmo...@gmail.com escreveu: Fa, sobre o Firefox 4 no Maverick... O Ubuntu geralmente não muda a versão do navegador numa mesma versão. Estou louco para testar o Firefox 4, mas da ultima vez q atualizei, não lembro se foi do 2 para 3, forçando um pouco a barra, tive conflito de tudo com tudo, quando saiu a versão nova do Ubuntu continuou bagunçado. Resultado: tive que instalar o ubuntu do zero para que tudo voltasse a normalidade. No caso do Firefox em especial pq a Canonical apronta uma versão específica para o Ubuntu. Vale a pena esperar para não bagunçar as coisas... P.s.: apenas relatando o problema q tive abração Em Sáb, 2011-04-09 às 17:15 -0300, Fa escreveu: Oi No laboratório temos ums 30 máquinas funcionando, em geral são: 32 bits, com 1 GB ou 768 MB de memória, com Ubuntu 10.10, Firefox 4 e LibreOffice 3.3.2 em pt-BR, os últimos com várias extensões instaladas. Fazemos as atualizações do Ubuntu praticamente em todos os dias úteis. Nessas duas últimas semanas tivemos vários problemas como os que já relatei aqui, em outras mensagens: pcs ficando com o ubuntu 10.10 em inglês de uma hora pra outra. (Que já sabemos resolver). E, nessa semana, o Firefox como que resolveu ignorar a extensão Locale switcher e também ficar em inglês, o que foi fácil de resolver apenas ajustando a extensão. Mas na quinta e sexta, simplesmente apareceu a versão 4.2 do FX instalada em algumas máquinas, em inglês, e com a maioria das nossas extensões desativadas por serem incompatíveis. Tivemos que desinstalar e instalamos a 4.0 que está no Synaptic. Estamos usando o Ubuntu desde a versão 9.04 e nunca tinha visto aparecerem tantos problemas juntos. Lembrando que estou falando aqui apenas de pcs com a versão 10,10, alguém tem ideia do que pode estar acontecendo? Pode me dizer? -- Beijins Fa A insônia consiste em dormir ao contrário. Ubuntu User number is # 32559 Se houver documentos de escritório anexados neste e-mail, eles poderão estar no formato ODF, um padrão aberto, gratuito e homologado pela ISO e ABNT. Para visualizar ou editar, basta copiar e instalar o BrOffice.org em http://broffice.org/download. Cansou de vírus, pragas virtuais, travamentos e falta de desempenho? O melhor anti vírus é usar Linux :) Conheça o novo Ubuntu 10.10! http://www.ubuntu-br.org/ -- Erasmo José Pereira de Oliveira Usuário Linux # 475516 Usuário Ubuntu # 23164 Contato: (84) 9977-2518 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] : [sapiensinfotec] Finalmente: atualizacao p/ Linux.
Ok. Renato, boa notícia. Mas a atualização no repositórios já saiu. Assim, quem tem skype instalado provavelmente já está com essa versão (2.2). Essa é uma diferença marcante entre o Windows e o Linux: o uso de repositórios de software torna mais fácil a distribuição de atualizações... Dê uma vista de olhos no seu skype para ver qual é a versão dele! O problema é que é sempre BETA! Abraços André Cavalcante 2011/4/9 Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.com Recebi de lista de Windows... Fonte: http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/tec/900149-skype-finalmente-recebe-atualizacao-para-linux.shtml 08/04/2011 - 16h17 Skype finalmente recebe atualização para Linux DE SÃO PAULO Depois de quase 1 ano e meio sem atualizações, o programa mensageiro Skype recebeu uma atualização para o sistema operacional Linux. A versão 2.2 Beta promete melhoria na qualidade das chamadas de áudio e video e suporte a chamadas em espera (ou múltiplas chamadas). A tradução para o português brasileiro foi atualizada e cerca de 50 bugs foram resolvidos. O programa pode ser baixado na página oficial do Skypehttp://www.skype.com/intl/en/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/, com opções de download para Ubunto, Fedora e outras distribuições do sistema. __._,_.___ sanj...@gmail.com?subject=Res%3A%20Finalmente%3A%20atualizacao%20p%2F%20Linux%2E | através de email sapiensinfo...@yahoogrupos.com.br?subject=Res%3A%20Finalmente%3A%20atualizacao%20p%2F%20Linux%2E | Responder através da web http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/sapiensinfotec/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYmJxZ2JhBF9TAzk3NDkwNDM3BGdycElkAzEwMjc5NjI4BGdycHNwSWQDMjEzNzExMTU5OARtc2dJZAM0MjU2NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzEzMDIzMDIyMzI-?act=replymessageNum=42567 | Adicionar um novo tópico http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/sapiensinfotec/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYWozdjY0BF9TAzk3NDkwNDM3BGdycElkAzEwMjc5NjI4BGdycHNwSWQDMjEzNzExMTU5OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzMDIzMDIyMzI- Mensagens neste tópico http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/sapiensinfotec/message/42567;_ylc=X3oDMTM3bjJxY2FyBF9TAzk3NDkwNDM3BGdycElkAzEwMjc5NjI4BGdycHNwSWQDMjEzNzExMTU5OARtc2dJZAM0MjU2NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzMDIzMDIyMzIEdHBjSWQDNDI1Njc- ( 1) Atividade nos últimos dias: Visite seu Grupo http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/sapiensinfotec;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYzJvZW5iBF9TAzk3NDkwNDM3BGdycElkAzEwMjc5NjI4BGdycHNwSWQDMjEzNzExMTU5OARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzMDIzMDIyMzE- * [image: Yahoo! Grupos] http://br.groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlNHFnYWhwBF9TAzk3NDkwNDM1BGdycElkAzEwMjc5NjI4BGdycHNwSWQDMjEzNzExMTU5OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTMwMjMwMjIzMg-- Trocar para: Só Texto sapiensinfotec-traditio...@yahoogrupos.com.br?subject=Mudar+Formato+de+Envio:+Tradicional , Resenha Diária sapiensinfotec-dig...@yahoogrupos.com.br?subject=Envio+de+email:+Resenha• Sair do grupo sapiensinfotec-unsubscr...@yahoogrupos.com.br?subject=Sair+do+grupo• Termos de uso http://br.yahoo.com/info/utos.html . __,_._,___ -- *Conheça meu livro Lógica de Formação de Acordes! !* *Pedidos para o endereço :* *renatoal...@renatoalvim.com* []´s - *Renato Alvim* - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - *OMB* 32.375 *Sítio* : :www.renatoalvim.com *blog*:http://renatoalvim.blogs.sapo.pt Budista - Nam-Myoho-Rengue-Kyo - -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- André Cavalcante Almada, Portugal Ubuntu User number # 24370 Quer saber sobre Open Source Software? http://sobreoss.blogspot.com Quer saber mais sobre Espiritismo? http://sobreespiritismo.blogspot.com Atenção: Este e-mail pode conter anexos no formato ODF (Open Document Format)/ABNT (extensões odt, ods, odp, odb, odg). Antes de pedir os anexos em outro formato, você pode instalar gratuita e livremente o BrOffice ( http://www.broffice.org) ou o seguinte Plugin para Microsoft Office ( http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/get.jsp). -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Receptor TV Digital ISDB-T
Bom dia, Segundo essa página (http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/SMS_USB_DRV.html) o receptor é suportado pelo kernel a partir da versão 2.6.31. O módulo é o smsusb, verifique se ele foi carregado automaticamente com o lsmod e, caso não, cerregue-o manualmente com o modprobe (veja man modprobe para detalhes sobre como usar o modprobe) Abraço. Em 10 de abril de 2011 00:20, Ronaldo Linux Debate linuxdeb...@gmail.comescreveu: PessoALL, Alguém já conseguiu instalar este dispositivo no Ubuntu Linux? Receptor de TV Digital Ezcap modelo EzTv Eu venho googleando há alguns dias mas nao encontrei nada que fizesse funcionar. Alguém pode dar um ajudinha ? Resposta do lsusb *Bus 001 Device 002: ID 187f:0201 * Resposta dmesg [ 1922.988420] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 [ 1923.121188] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 1923.122709] usb 1-1: firmware: requesting dvb_nova_12mhz_b0.inp [ 1923.692391] smscore_set_device_mode: firmware download success: dvb_nova_12mhz_b0.inp -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Paulo de Souza Lima Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador http://www.pasl.net.br http://almalivre.wordpress.com Curitiba - PR Linux User #432358 Ubuntu User #28729 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Será que o Ubuntu vai ficar fora dessa? - GNOME3 quase lando!
Olha, não sou desenvolvedor nem nada. Uso Debian/Ubuntu desde a versão 9.04, a *não *gostei do novo Gnome. 2011/4/9 Renan Traba rv...@inf.ufpr.br nen tudo eh as mil maravilhas no gnome3, nao da pra configurar tema nele ( so sendo expert ) Em 9 de abril de 2011 16:16, Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br escreveu: Hum... Muito bom saber disso Ivan. O detalhe é que como o Unity vem como visual default, muitos nem imaginam que podem mudar pro gnome. O Kubuntu vem com o Desktop padrão por default, e muitos nem imaginam que o layout Web pode ser ativado. Talvez um icone de acesso rápido a essas opcões talvez fariam deles melhor e mais conhecidos. Na tela de propriedades do Desktop poderia ter a opcão de mudar do Gnome pro Unity e vice versa. Marcelo Silva -- Em 9 de abril de 2011 15:43, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.br escreveu: Somente uma pequena observação, O 11.04 vem com Gnome 2 mas a 11.10 virá com o Gnome 3. O Unity é apenas o shell do Ubuntu, não substitui o Gnome. Recomendo a todos que ouçam o Podcast Opencast episódio #2 [1] que tem uma conversa com André Gondim e um dos pontos que falamos é exatamente desta confusão que muita gente tem feito a respeito do Ubuntu abandonar ou não o Gnome. [1] http://www.ubuntero.com.br/2011/03/opencast-episodio-2-comunidade-ubuntu-br/ Em 09-04-2011 10:50, Marcelo da Silva escreveu: É pessoal, que pena a Canonical apostar no Unity. O Gnome3 parece estar bem mais agradável, vejam: http://gnome3.org/ O Suse e Fedora estão com ele. Claro que pode-se instalar depois, mas sabe aquele ditado, a primeira impressãp é a que fica? Marcelo Silva --- -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- *[* João Fagundes Pinto do Rego http://www.google.com/profiles/joaofpr *]* *•* *[* Kernel 2.6.35.28-generic *] [ Gnu/Linux *Registred User:* *391514* ]* -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Será que o Ubuntu vai ficar fora dessa? - GNOME3 quase lando!
E já chega o Grub2, não? Em 9 de abril de 2011 23:35, Renan Traba rv...@inf.ufpr.br escreveu: nen tudo eh as mil maravilhas no gnome3, nao da pra configurar tema nele ( so sendo expert ) Em 9 de abril de 2011 16:16, Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br escreveu: Hum... Muito bom saber disso Ivan. O detalhe é que como o Unity vem como visual default, muitos nem imaginam que podem mudar pro gnome. O Kubuntu vem com o Desktop padrão por default, e muitos nem imaginam que o layout Web pode ser ativado. Talvez um icone de acesso rápido a essas opcões talvez fariam deles melhor e mais conhecidos. Na tela de propriedades do Desktop poderia ter a opcão de mudar do Gnome pro Unity e vice versa. Marcelo Silva -- Em 9 de abril de 2011 15:43, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.br escreveu: Somente uma pequena observação, O 11.04 vem com Gnome 2 mas a 11.10 virá com o Gnome 3. O Unity é apenas o shell do Ubuntu, não substitui o Gnome. Recomendo a todos que ouçam o Podcast Opencast episódio #2 [1] que tem uma conversa com André Gondim e um dos pontos que falamos é exatamente desta confusão que muita gente tem feito a respeito do Ubuntu abandonar ou não o Gnome. [1] http://www.ubuntero.com.br/2011/03/opencast-episodio-2-comunidade-ubuntu-br/ Em 09-04-2011 10:50, Marcelo da Silva escreveu: É pessoal, que pena a Canonical apostar no Unity. O Gnome3 parece estar bem mais agradável, vejam: http://gnome3.org/ O Suse e Fedora estão com ele. Claro que pode-se instalar depois, mas sabe aquele ditado, a primeira impressãp é a que fica? Marcelo Silva --- -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- *Conheça meu livro Lógica de Formação de Acordes! !* *Pedidos para o endereço :* *renatoal...@renatoalvim.com* []´s - *Renato Alvim* - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - *OMB* 32.375 *Sítio* : :www.renatoalvim.com *blog*:http://renatoalvim.blogs.sapo.pt Budista - Nam-Myoho-Rengue-Kyo - -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Configuração no SQUID
Prezados Ubunteiros, Estou precisando das linhas de configuração para bloquear os usuários de acessarem proxys externos utilizando IPs pelo Squid. Estou encontrando na empresa os usuários pelo navegador configurando os navegadores para fazerem conexão com IPs externos e portas como 80, 8080, 443 e 3128. Como faço para bloquear no Squid os acessos a IPS tais como o exemplo : http://74.54.220.14 (Bloquear qualquer IP digitado, mas libera nomes). Estou precisando da configuração da ACL para definição da máscara e a forma de negar o acesso. Tentei algumas configurações que peguei na internet, mas não resolveu. Obrigado. Marcos -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux como AP + Hostpad
Muito obrigado Fábio pelo seu retorno e ajuda! Essa semana vou tentar seguir os passos desse tutorial, grande abraço, Ksatrya Em 8 de abril de 2011 15:50, Fábio Rabelo fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.brescreveu: Boa tarde ... A documentação ainda é meio escassa, esta é a melhor que eu encontrei : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1663788 Mas eu não consegui colocar nenhum dos dois adaptadores que eu tenho no ar ! Até onde eu pude apurar, o hostapd ainda não é compatível ( não sabe como colocar em modo master ) com os adaptadores Wireless N, eu tentei com um atheros AR9001 e com um realtek 8176 . Ambos funcionam como clientes tanto com o wpasupplicant qto com o wicd, mas qdo tento colocar qualquer um deles em modo master recebo esta msg : firewall:~# hostapd -d /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf Configuration file: /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf nl80211: Register Action command failed: ret=-95 (Operation not supported) nl80211: Register Action match - hexdump(len=1): 06 nl80211: Failed to register Action frame processing - ignore for now nl80211: Add own interface ifindex 4 nl80211: Failed to set interface 4 to mode 3: -95 (Operation not supported) nl80211: Failed to set interface 4 to mode 3: -95 (Operation not supported) nl80211: Interface mode change to 3 from 0 failed nl80211: Failed to set interface wlan0 into AP mode nl80211 driver initialization failed. ELOOP: remaining socket: sock=4 eloop_data=0x8105a68 user_data=0x8106010 handler=0x807bc80 ELOOP: remaining socket: sock=6 eloop_data=0x8107830 user_data=(nil) handler=0x8085680 O problema tb poderia ser com o firmware, mas eu não consegui confirmar ... Se o Seu adaptador for wireless G provavelmente o Sr. não terá problemas ... E se alguém tiver alguma sujestão, por favor envie-nos na lista !!! Fábio Rabelo Em 8 de abril de 2011 15:33, Ksatrya_Linux govabu...@gmail.com escreveu: Boa tarde pessoal!!! Estou tentando fazer do meu gateway linux também um AP Wireless, antes eu fazeia isto fácil através do MADWIFI e um simples script mas depois que o mesmo foi descontinuado eu não consigo mais. Me aconselharam fazer com o HOSTAPD que seria muito mais seguro e completo mas eu não estou conseguindo. Alguém poderia me ajudar? Alguém teria um passo-a-passo que me ajudasse a fazer isso de uma forma simples inicilamente e depois eu mesmo vou incrementando? Abraços, Ksatrya -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Será que o Ubuntu vai ficar fora dessa? - GNOME3 quase lando!
Concordo com você. O grub2 ficou uma porcaria. Abraços Júlio Em 10/04/2011 10:58, Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.com escreveu: E já chega o Grub2, não? Em 9 de abril de 2011 23:35, Renan Traba rv...@inf.ufpr.br escreveu: nen tudo eh as mil maravilhas no gnome3, nao da pra configurar tema nele ( so sendo expert ) Em 9 de abril de 2011 16:16, Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br escreveu: Hum... Muito bom saber disso Ivan. O detalhe é que como o Unity vem como visual default, muitos nem imaginam que podem mudar pro gnome. O Kubuntu vem com o Desktop padrão por default, e muitos nem imaginam que o layout Web pode ser ativado. Talvez um icone de acesso rápido a essas opcões talvez fariam deles melhor e mais conhecidos. Na tela de propriedades do Desktop poderia ter a opcão de mudar do Gnome pro Unity e vice versa. Marcelo Silva -- Em 9 de abril de 2011 15:43, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.br escreveu: Somente uma pequena observação, O 11.04 vem com Gnome 2 mas a 11.10 virá com o Gnome 3. O Unity é apenas o shell do Ubuntu, não substitui o Gnome. Recomendo a todos que ouçam o Podcast Opencast episódio #2 [1] que tem uma conversa com André Gondim e um dos pontos que falamos é exatamente desta confusão que muita gente tem feito a respeito do Ubuntu abandonar ou não o Gnome. [1] http://www.ubuntero.com.br/2011/03/opencast-episodio-2-comunidade-ubuntu-br/ Em 09-04-2011 10:50, Marcelo da Silva escreveu: É pessoal, que pena a Canonical apostar no Unity. O Gnome3 parece estar bem mais agradável, vejam: http://gnome3.org/ O Suse e Fedora estão com ele. Claro que pode-se instalar depois, mas sabe aquele ditado, a primeira impressãp é a que fica? Marcelo Silva --- -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- *Conheça meu livro Lógica de Formação de Acordes! !* *Pedidos para o endereço :* *renatoal...@renatoalvim.com* []´s - *Renato Alvim* - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - *OMB* 32.375 *Sítio* : :www.renatoalvim.com *blog*:http://renatoalvim.blogs.sapo.pt Budista - Nam-Myoho-Rengue-Kyo - -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Será que o Ubuntu vai ficar fora dessa? - GNOME3 quase lando!
Boa tarde pessoal, entrando de curioso no assunto... Aqui uso o grub2 tranquilo. Acho simples e objetivo. Quando vi os comentários de vocês fiquei curioso. O que exatamente não presta ou falta no grub2? Abraço.. Sidney 2011/4/10 Julio Henrique Oliveira julioh1...@gmail.com Concordo com você. O grub2 ficou uma porcaria. Abraços Júlio Em 10/04/2011 10:58, Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.com escreveu: E já chega o Grub2, não? Em 9 de abril de 2011 23:35, Renan Traba rv...@inf.ufpr.br escreveu: nen tudo eh as mil maravilhas no gnome3, nao da pra configurar tema nele ( so sendo expert ) Em 9 de abril de 2011 16:16, Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br escreveu: Hum... Muito bom saber disso Ivan. O detalhe é que como o Unity vem como visual default, muitos nem imaginam que podem mudar pro gnome. O Kubuntu vem com o Desktop padrão por default, e muitos nem imaginam que o layout Web pode ser ativado. Talvez um icone de acesso rápido a essas opcões talvez fariam deles melhor e mais conhecidos. Na tela de propriedades do Desktop poderia ter a opcão de mudar do Gnome pro Unity e vice versa. Marcelo Silva -- Em 9 de abril de 2011 15:43, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.br escreveu: Somente uma pequena observação, O 11.04 vem com Gnome 2 mas a 11.10 virá com o Gnome 3. O Unity é apenas o shell do Ubuntu, não substitui o Gnome. Recomendo a todos que ouçam o Podcast Opencast episódio #2 [1] que tem uma conversa com André Gondim e um dos pontos que falamos é exatamente desta confusão que muita gente tem feito a respeito do Ubuntu abandonar ou não o Gnome. [1] http://www.ubuntero.com.br/2011/03/opencast-episodio-2-comunidade-ubuntu-br/ Em 09-04-2011 10:50, Marcelo da Silva escreveu: É pessoal, que pena a Canonical apostar no Unity. O Gnome3 parece estar bem mais agradável, vejam: http://gnome3.org/ O Suse e Fedora estão com ele. Claro que pode-se instalar depois, mas sabe aquele ditado, a primeira impressãp é a que fica? Marcelo Silva --- -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- *Conheça meu livro Lógica de Formação de Acordes! !* *Pedidos para o endereço :* *renatoal...@renatoalvim.com* []´s - *Renato Alvim* - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - *OMB* 32.375 *Sítio* : :www.renatoalvim.com *blog*:http://renatoalvim.blogs.sapo.pt Budista - Nam-Myoho-Rengue-Kyo - -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Será que o Ubuntu vai ficar fora dessa? - GNOME3 quase lando!
Olá, Na minha opinião a versão anterior do grub tinha uma configuração mais simples e otimizada e não precisava mexer nisso. Se haviam aspectos a serem mudados, não era o modo de configuração que precisava mudar. []'s Júlio Em 10/04/2011 16:46, Sidney slin...@gmail.com escreveu: Boa tarde pessoal, entrando de curioso no assunto... Aqui uso o grub2 tranquilo. Acho simples e objetivo. Quando vi os comentários de vocês fiquei curioso. O que exatamente não presta ou falta no grub2? Abraço.. Sidney 2011/4/10 Julio Henrique Oliveira julioh1...@gmail.com Concordo com você. O grub2 ficou uma porcaria. Abraços Júlio Em 10/04/2011 10:58, Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.com escreveu: E já chega o Grub2, não? Em 9 de abril de 2011 23:35, Renan Traba rv...@inf.ufpr.br escreveu: nen tudo eh as mil maravilhas no gnome3, nao da pra configurar tema nele ( so sendo expert ) Em 9 de abril de 2011 16:16, Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br escreveu: Hum... Muito bom saber disso Ivan. O detalhe é que como o Unity vem como visual default, muitos nem imaginam que podem mudar pro gnome. O Kubuntu vem com o Desktop padrão por default, e muitos nem imaginam que o layout Web pode ser ativado. Talvez um icone de acesso rápido a essas opcões talvez fariam deles melhor e mais conhecidos. Na tela de propriedades do Desktop poderia ter a opcão de mudar do Gnome pro Unity e vice versa. Marcelo Silva -- Em 9 de abril de 2011 15:43, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.br escreveu: Somente uma pequena observação, O 11.04 vem com Gnome 2 mas a 11.10 virá com o Gnome 3. O Unity é apenas o shell do Ubuntu, não substitui o Gnome. Recomendo a todos que ouçam o Podcast Opencast episódio #2 [1] que tem uma conversa com André Gondim e um dos pontos que falamos é exatamente desta confusão que muita gente tem feito a respeito do Ubuntu abandonar ou não o Gnome. [1] http://www.ubuntero.com.br/2011/03/opencast-episodio-2-comunidade-ubuntu-br/ Em 09-04-2011 10:50, Marcelo da Silva escreveu: É pessoal, que pena a Canonical apostar no Unity. O Gnome3 parece estar bem mais agradável, vejam: http://gnome3.org/ O Suse e Fedora estão com ele. Claro que pode-se instalar depois, mas sabe aquele ditado, a primeira impressãp é a que fica? Marcelo Silva --- -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- *Conheça meu livro Lógica de Formação de Acordes! !* *Pedidos para o endereço :* *renatoal...@renatoalvim.com* []´s - *Renato Alvim* - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - *OMB* 32.375 *Sítio* : :www.renatoalvim.com *blog*:http://renatoalvim.blogs.sapo.pt Budista - Nam-Myoho-Rengue-Kyo - -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Será que o Ubuntu vai ficar fora dessa? - GNOME3 quase lando!
Oh!oh!, tá virando OT, não seria interessante outro tópico para se discutir o Grub2? Por favor, aqui só Gnome3 Abraços André Cavalcante Caparica, Portugal 2011/4/10 Sidney slin...@gmail.com Boa tarde pessoal, entrando de curioso no assunto... Aqui uso o grub2 tranquilo. Acho simples e objetivo. Quando vi os comentários de vocês fiquei curioso. O que exatamente não presta ou falta no grub2? Abraço.. Sidney -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF-TOPIC] Skype 2.2 Beta não detecta aparece imagem da minha cam.
No meu sempre precisou este artifício. Toda vez que atualizava o Skype precisava fazer isso e desta vez não foi diferente. Welington Rodrigues Braga -- Web: http://www.welrbraga.eti.br MSN: welrbraga[*]msn·com Gtalk: welrbraga[*]gmail·com Yahoo / Skype: welrbraga PGP Key: 0x6C7654EB Linux User #253605 Em tudo somos atribulados, porém não angustiados; perplexos, porém não desanimados; perseguidos, porém não desamparados; abatidos, porém não destruídos; - 2Co 4:8,9 Em 7 de abril de 2011 11:22, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.brescreveu: É uma boa pergunta, se eu tivesse lido que funcionava anteriormente, talvez, nem teria dado a ideia de usar o comando. Em 07-04-2011 11:19, Paulo Henrique Colen escreveu: Dei uma linda... Interessante mesmo. Agora fico me perguntando, porque isso não era necessário na versão anterior. Ivan, brigadão. Em 7 de abril de 2011 09:28, Ivan Brasil Fuzzeri...@fuzzer.com.br escreveu: Desta maneira você utiliza uma biblioteca que faz ponte entre o v4l2 e v4l1, os responsáveis pelas webcams, isso a grosso modo. Se quiser ver uma explicação mais detalhada, em inglês, veja este endereço http://www.linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis/libv4l.html Em 07-04-2011 09:24, Paulo Henrique Colen escreveu: Funcinou perfeitamente Ivan.. Me explica o comando? Em 7 de abril de 2011 09:11, Paulo Henrique Colen paulo.co...@gmail.comescreveu: Vou testar Ivan.. Funcionava sim Paulo. Em 7 de abril de 2011 09:02, Paulo Rogério Batalhão pa...@foxmail.com.br escreveu: bom dia, (Nunca usei chamada por vídeo no skype/linux e me bateu uma dúvida) * Na versão anterior funcionava a sua CAM? Em 07/04/2011 08:59, Paulo Henrique Colen escreveu: Bom dia gente, como nem tudo são flores, a nova versão 2.2 beta do skype detecta minha cam, mas não aparece a imagem, mesmo na configuração do video, ontem tem testar. Isso baixando a versão do site do skype, e hj saiu uma atualização pra ele, ambos não funcionaram minha cam.. Alguem passou por isso? -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Ivan Brasil Fuzzer Bacharel em Informática Celular: (54) 8411-0111 - (54) 9917-1798 GTalk: ivanbra...@gmail.com Jabber: ibra...@jabber.org http://www.ubuntero.com.br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Ivan Brasil Fuzzer Bacharel em Informática Celular: (54) 8411-0111 - (54) 9917-1798 GTalk: ivanbra...@gmail.com Jabber: ibra...@jabber.org http://www.ubuntero.com.br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu 11.04 em pcs velhos
Acabei de queimar um DVD-RW com a imagem do Beta e fiz um boot na minha máquina. Achei o boot bem rápido, pra um sistema que esta em um DVD, mas foi só ai que tive velocidade. Após carregar a Interface do Unity, que parecia estar perfeita, não conseguia operar o sistema. Cada clique levava uns 10 ou 10 segundos para serem obedecidos, deixando o sistema inutil para qualquer coisa. Minha placa de vídeo é uma ATI Radeon HD 4600 com 1GB de memória e rodo o Maverick sem problemas, inclusive com o Compiz e o Cairo-Dock GLX sem dificuldades. Se já não bastasse a mudança radical em relação ao gnome, agora este resultado do teste me deixou bastante apreensivo, quanto a atualizar para a nova versão. Welington Rodrigues Braga -- Web: http://www.welrbraga.eti.br MSN: welrbraga[*]msn·com Gtalk: welrbraga[*]gmail·com Yahoo / Skype: welrbraga PGP Key: 0x6C7654EB Linux User #253605 Em tudo somos atribulados, porém não angustiados; perplexos, porém não desanimados; perseguidos, porém não desamparados; abatidos, porém não destruídos; - 2Co 4:8,9 Em 5 de abril de 2011 18:59, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.brescreveu: Para rodar com o Unity a placa de vídeo tem que ter suporte a 3D. Existe o Unity 2D mas ainda não testei o mesmo. A versão que está mostrando é a versão padrão quando o suporte a 3D não exites para a placa de vídeo. Em 05-04-2011 18:03, Fa escreveu: Oi Tentei instalar o Ubuntu 11.04 em máquinas antigas, com mais de 3 anos, 32 bits, com 1 GB ou 768 MB de memória, que já estavam com uUbuntu 10.10, Firefox 4 e LibreOffice 3.3.2 em pt-BRs, os últimos com várias extensões instaladas. Usei Alt F2 e update-manager -d Em um pc aparentemente instalou direito, ficando com a interface Unity, Firefox 4, mantendo os complementos instalados e LibreOffice 3.3.2 em inglês, também mantendo as extensões instaladas. Instalei a linguagem ptBR pelo Synaptic e aparentemente ficou tudo certo. Mas em outro pc, não é a interface nova que aparece, e, apesar dele informar em Monitor de sistema que é o 11.04, tem toda a cara do 10.10, inclusive com o painel superior apresentando Aplicativos, Locais e Sistema. E, em outro pc, avisou que não suporta a 11.4, indicando a versão antiga. Mas, em monitor de sistema diz que é 11.04. E também não apresenta a interface Unity. E também continua com o painel superior apresentando Aplicativos, Locais e Sistema. Alguém sabe me informar o que está acontecendo e se tem jeito de deixar todos os pcs com o 11.4 e com interface nova? Ou os pcs estão abaixo dos requisitos de hardware, mesmo? -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Configuração no SQUID
As acl's: acl proibidos url_regex -i /etc/squid/proibidos acl proibidos-exceto url_regex -i /etc/squid/proibidos-exceto http_access deny proibidos !proibidos-exceto E em /etc/squid/ criei dois arquivos: proibidos, com as mascaras para bloqueio de acesso por ip ou outros sites mais que queira bloquear: ^[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+ ^http://[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+ ^https://[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+ E proibidos-exceto que não bloqueiam os ips como por exemplo ips internos e serviços da internet que precisam ser acessados por ip: ^http://192.168.1.128 ^http://192.168.1.243 ^http://192.168.1.254 Em 10 de abril de 2011 11:53, Marcos Tulio mar...@pb.senac.br escreveu: Prezados Ubunteiros, Estou precisando das linhas de configuração para bloquear os usuários de acessarem proxys externos utilizando IPs pelo Squid. Estou encontrando na empresa os usuários pelo navegador configurando os navegadores para fazerem conexão com IPs externos e portas como 80, 8080, 443 e 3128. Como faço para bloquear no Squid os acessos a IPS tais como o exemplo : http://74.54.220.14 (Bloquear qualquer IP digitado, mas libera nomes). Estou precisando da configuração da ACL para definição da máscara e a forma de negar o acesso. Tentei algumas configurações que peguei na internet, mas não resolveu. Obrigado. Marcos -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Bloqueio do Ultra Surf
As acl's: acl proibidos url_regex -i /etc/squid/proibidos acl proibidos-exceto url_regex -i /etc/squid/proibidos-exceto http_access deny proibidos !proibidos-exceto E em /etc/squid/ criei dois arquivos: proibidos, com as mascaras para bloqueio de acesso por ip ou outros sites mais que queira bloquear: ^[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+ ^http://[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+ ^https://[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+ E proibidos-exceto que não bloqueiam os ips como por exemplo ips internos e serviços da internet que precisam ser acessados por ip: ^http://192.168.1.128 ^http://192.168.1.243 ^http://192.168.1.254 desculpe a demora em responder Em 8 de abril de 2011 14:40, Marcos Tulio mar...@pb.senac.br escreveu: Existe um erro na linha de comando do IPTABLES, o correto é iptables -t filter -A FORWARD -s 192.168.10.0/24 -j DROP -p tcp -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Kboing ouvir músicas
Olá pessoal, estou tentando ouvir música no kboing, porém não estou conseguindo já pesquisei de tudo quanto é jeito na internet e não consegui resolver o problema. A solução mais próxima que encontrei foi com o vlc, só que se eu quiser seleciornar várias músicas para ouvir ele só toca a primeira, sem contar que a performance não é a mesma demora bastante para iniciar a música. Alguem pode me ajudar? att. Hudson Costa -- Hudson Costa -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Configuração no SQUID
Obrigado Wemerson -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Kboing ouvir músicas
Custava dizer o que é kboing? Mas enfim: esses sites não querem ser ouvidos no linux. Que tal ouvir o Jamendo, que já está integrado ao rhythmbox? Nele tem muita coisa boa, a grande maioria é desconhecida, mas toca perfeitamente e se você gostar, pode baixar pro seu HD de graça e sem violar leis. Em 10 de abril de 2011 22:34, Hudson Costa hudson.m...@gmail.com escreveu: Olá pessoal, estou tentando ouvir música no kboing, porém não estou conseguindo já pesquisei de tudo quanto é jeito na internet e não consegui resolver o problema. A solução mais próxima que encontrei foi com o vlc, só que se eu quiser seleciornar várias músicas para ouvir ele só toca a primeira, sem contar que a performance não é a mesma demora bastante para iniciar a música. Alguem pode me ajudar? att. Hudson Costa -- Hudson Costa -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Humberto Fraga http://lixaonerd.wordpress.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Esconder Kernel antigo (no boot) depois da atualização
Olá galera! Como faço para esconder o Kernel antigo após eu atualizar meu Ubuntu? Andei pesquisando e vi o Startup Manager, mas ele somente define o tempo de espera do boot e qual será o Kernel ou o OS que quero que carregue primeiro. Como disse, gostaria de esconder o Kernel antigo... grato, Keppler -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] [off-topic] Curiosidade sobre outro tópico
Bom, tive uma curiosidade aqui na lista de discussão sobre o grub2, citado no tópico do gnome3. Acredito que tenha sido citado pelo fato de o gnome3 ter mantido o grub2. Como não pude simplesmente saber por lá, abri este tópico como foi sugerido sei lá eu por quem... Vou repetir minha questão aqui no novo tópico: Boa tarde pessoal, entrando de curioso no assunto... Aqui uso o grub2 tranquilo. Acho simples e objetivo. Quando vi os comentários de vocês fiquei curioso. O que exatamente não presta ou falta no grub2? Abraço.. Caso precisem saber o contexto da pergunta, está abaixo: [image: Gmail] * Sidney Lins slin...@gmail.com * -- *[Ubuntu-BR] Será que o Ubuntu vai ficar fora dessa? - GNOME3 quase lando!* 10 messages -- * Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br * * 9 avril 2011 10:50 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com É pessoal, que pena a Canonical apostar no Unity. O Gnome3 parece estar bem mais agradável, vejam: http://gnome3.org/ O Suse e Fedora estão com ele. Claro que pode-se instalar depois, mas sabe aquele ditado, a primeira impressãp é a que fica? Marcelo Silva --- -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- * Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.br * * 9 avril 2011 15:43 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Somente uma pequena observação, O 11.04 vem com Gnome 2 mas a 11.10 virá com o Gnome 3. O Unity é apenas o shell do Ubuntu, não substitui o Gnome. Recomendo a todos que ouçam o Podcast Opencast episódio #2 [1] que tem uma conversa com André Gondim e um dos pontos que falamos é exatamente desta confusão que muita gente tem feito a respeito do Ubuntu abandonar ou não o Gnome. [1] http://www.ubuntero.com.br/2011/03/opencast-episodio-2-comunidade-ubuntu-br/ Em 09-04-2011 10:50, Marcelo da Silva escreveu: [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- * Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br * * 9 avril 2011 16:16 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Hum... Muito bom saber disso Ivan. O detalhe é que como o Unity vem como visual default, muitos nem imaginam que podem mudar pro gnome. O Kubuntu vem com o Desktop padrão por default, e muitos nem imaginam que o layout Web pode ser ativado. Talvez um icone de acesso rápido a essas opcões talvez fariam deles melhor e mais conhecidos. Na tela de propriedades do Desktop poderia ter a opcão de mudar do Gnome pro Unity e vice versa. Marcelo Silva -- Em 9 de abril de 2011 15:43, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.br escreveu: [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- * Renan Traba rv...@inf.ufpr.br * * 9 avril 2011 23:35 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com nen tudo eh as mil maravilhas no gnome3, nao da pra configurar tema nele ( so sendo expert ) Em 9 de abril de 2011 16:16, Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br escreveu: [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- * JoaoFPR joao...@gmail.com * * 10 avril 2011 09:47 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Olha, não sou desenvolvedor nem nada. Uso Debian/Ubuntu desde a versão 9.04, a *não *gostei do novo Gnome. [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- *[* João Fagundes Pinto do Rego http://www.google.com/profiles/joaofpr *]* *•* *[* Kernel 2.6.35.28-generic *] [ Gnu/Linux *Registred User:* *391514* ]* -- [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- * Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.com * * 10 avril 2011 10:58 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com E já chega o Grub2, não? Em 9 de abril de 2011 23:35, Renan Traba rv...@inf.ufpr.br escreveu: [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- *Conheça meu livro Lógica de Formação de Acordes! !* *Pedidos para o endereço :* *renatoal...@renatoalvim.com* []´s - *Renato Alvim* - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - *OMB* 32.375 *Sítio* : :www.renatoalvim.com *blog*:http://renatoalvim.blogs.sapo.pt Budista
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Esconder Kernel antigo (no boot) depois da atualização
Olá Keppler, Pode haver diferenças de procedimento em função da versão do Ubuntu que você está utilizando. Mas uma maneira bem direta é entrar no Synaptic e remover tudo relacionado com o antigo kernel, como por exemplo image, headers, backports, etc. É só dar uma busca lá no Synaptic pela versão do seu kernel antigo (ex. 2.6.xx-y) e marcar para desinstalar o que está instalado. Depois abra o startup manager que ele corrige automaticamente. Existem outras formas, mas essa é rápida, direta e indolor (se a nova instalação do kernel já estiver rodando sem problemas). ;-) Abraços e sucesso, Nelson On 04/11/2011 12:03 AM, Keppler wrote: Olá galera! Como faço para esconder o Kernel antigo após eu atualizar meu Ubuntu? Andei pesquisando e vi o Startup Manager, mas ele somente define o tempo de espera do boot e qual será o Kernel ou o OS que quero que carregue primeiro. Como disse, gostaria de esconder o Kernel antigo... grato, Keppler -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Esconder Kernel antigo (no boot) depois da atualização
Keppler! Podes tentar usando o Grub Customizer. Nesse programa gráfico há a possibilidade de esconder, reaparecer e mudar várias opções do Grub2. Mas antes de mexer em configurações do Grub2 seria bom ter certeza do que está fazendo pra não ficar sem acesso ao seu hd. Procura informações na net... Não esquece de gravar na MBR para funcionar no próximo boot... Marcus Em Mon, 11 Apr 2011 00:03:40 -0300, Keppler jurgenkepp...@gmail.com escreveu: Olá galera! Como faço para esconder o Kernel antigo após eu atualizar meu Ubuntu? Andei pesquisando e vi o Startup Manager, mas ele somente define o tempo de espera do boot e qual será o Kernel ou o OS que quero que carregue primeiro. Como disse, gostaria de esconder o Kernel antigo... grato, Keppler -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [off-topic] Curiosidade sobre outro tópico
Nada deve have de mal no grub2. O problema nunca foi ele e sim a falta de sabermos como lidar com ele. Ele pode ser a oitava maravilha do mundo... Mas no antigo a gente mexia facilmente. Nesse, tudo parece infernal. Só iso. Não misturemos as coisas. Ninguém quer abolir o grub2! Queremos apenas lidar com ele sem termos que nos tornara especialistas em grub ou fazer algum pós-graduação! Simples assim... Como era o anterior. |ENtendeu, amigo? Em 11 de abril de 2011 00:25, Sidney slin...@gmail.com escreveu: Bom, tive uma curiosidade aqui na lista de discussão sobre o grub2, citado no tópico do gnome3. Acredito que tenha sido citado pelo fato de o gnome3 ter mantido o grub2. Como não pude simplesmente saber por lá, abri este tópico como foi sugerido sei lá eu por quem... Vou repetir minha questão aqui no novo tópico: Boa tarde pessoal, entrando de curioso no assunto... Aqui uso o grub2 tranquilo. Acho simples e objetivo. Quando vi os comentários de vocês fiquei curioso. O que exatamente não presta ou falta no grub2? Abraço.. Caso precisem saber o contexto da pergunta, está abaixo: [image: Gmail] * Sidney Lins slin...@gmail.com * -- *[Ubuntu-BR] Será que o Ubuntu vai ficar fora dessa? - GNOME3 quase lando!* 10 messages -- * Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br * * 9 avril 2011 10:50 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com É pessoal, que pena a Canonical apostar no Unity. O Gnome3 parece estar bem mais agradável, vejam: http://gnome3.org/ O Suse e Fedora estão com ele. Claro que pode-se instalar depois, mas sabe aquele ditado, a primeira impressãp é a que fica? Marcelo Silva --- -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- * Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.br * * 9 avril 2011 15:43 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Somente uma pequena observação, O 11.04 vem com Gnome 2 mas a 11.10 virá com o Gnome 3. O Unity é apenas o shell do Ubuntu, não substitui o Gnome. Recomendo a todos que ouçam o Podcast Opencast episódio #2 [1] que tem uma conversa com André Gondim e um dos pontos que falamos é exatamente desta confusão que muita gente tem feito a respeito do Ubuntu abandonar ou não o Gnome. [1] http://www.ubuntero.com.br/2011/03/opencast-episodio-2-comunidade-ubuntu-br/ Em 09-04-2011 10:50, Marcelo da Silva escreveu: [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- * Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br * * 9 avril 2011 16:16 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Hum... Muito bom saber disso Ivan. O detalhe é que como o Unity vem como visual default, muitos nem imaginam que podem mudar pro gnome. O Kubuntu vem com o Desktop padrão por default, e muitos nem imaginam que o layout Web pode ser ativado. Talvez um icone de acesso rápido a essas opcões talvez fariam deles melhor e mais conhecidos. Na tela de propriedades do Desktop poderia ter a opcão de mudar do Gnome pro Unity e vice versa. Marcelo Silva -- Em 9 de abril de 2011 15:43, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.br escreveu: [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- * Renan Traba rv...@inf.ufpr.br * * 9 avril 2011 23:35 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com nen tudo eh as mil maravilhas no gnome3, nao da pra configurar tema nele ( so sendo expert ) Em 9 de abril de 2011 16:16, Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br escreveu: [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- * JoaoFPR joao...@gmail.com * * 10 avril 2011 09:47 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Olha, não sou desenvolvedor nem nada. Uso Debian/Ubuntu desde a versão 9.04, a *não *gostei do novo Gnome. [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- *[* João Fagundes Pinto do Rego http://www.google.com/profiles/joaofpr *]* *•* *[* Kernel 2.6.35.28-generic *] [ Gnu/Linux *Registred User:* *391514* ]* -- [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- * Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.com * * 10 avril 2011 10:58 * Répondre à:
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Será que o Ubuntu vai ficar fora dessa? - GNOME3 quase lando!
O grub2 foi citado aqui... Em 10 de abril de 2011 17:26, Andre Cavalcante andre.d.cavalca...@gmail.com escreveu: Oh!oh!, tá virando OT, não seria interessante outro tópico para se discutir o Grub2? Por favor, aqui só Gnome3 Abraços André Cavalcante Caparica, Portugal 2011/4/10 Sidney slin...@gmail.com Boa tarde pessoal, entrando de curioso no assunto... Aqui uso o grub2 tranquilo. Acho simples e objetivo. Quando vi os comentários de vocês fiquei curioso. O que exatamente não presta ou falta no grub2? Abraço.. Sidney -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- *Conheça meu livro Lógica de Formação de Acordes! !* *Pedidos para o endereço :* *renatoal...@renatoalvim.com* []´s - *Renato Alvim* - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - *OMB* 32.375 *Sítio* : :www.renatoalvim.com *blog*:http://renatoalvim.blogs.sapo.pt Budista - Nam-Myoho-Rengue-Kyo - -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Será que o Ubuntu vai ficar fora dessa? - GNOME3 quase lando!
Faça alguma alteração nele... Ou melhor, TENTE fazer, amigo. |Depois voltamos a nos falar. Em 10 de abril de 2011 16:46, Sidney slin...@gmail.com escreveu: Boa tarde pessoal, entrando de curioso no assunto... Aqui uso o grub2 tranquilo. Acho simples e objetivo. Quando vi os comentários de vocês fiquei curioso. O que exatamente não presta ou falta no grub2? Abraço.. Sidney 2011/4/10 Julio Henrique Oliveira julioh1...@gmail.com Concordo com você. O grub2 ficou uma porcaria. Abraços Júlio Em 10/04/2011 10:58, Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.com escreveu: E já chega o Grub2, não? Em 9 de abril de 2011 23:35, Renan Traba rv...@inf.ufpr.br escreveu: nen tudo eh as mil maravilhas no gnome3, nao da pra configurar tema nele ( so sendo expert ) Em 9 de abril de 2011 16:16, Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br escreveu: Hum... Muito bom saber disso Ivan. O detalhe é que como o Unity vem como visual default, muitos nem imaginam que podem mudar pro gnome. O Kubuntu vem com o Desktop padrão por default, e muitos nem imaginam que o layout Web pode ser ativado. Talvez um icone de acesso rápido a essas opcões talvez fariam deles melhor e mais conhecidos. Na tela de propriedades do Desktop poderia ter a opcão de mudar do Gnome pro Unity e vice versa. Marcelo Silva -- Em 9 de abril de 2011 15:43, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.br escreveu: Somente uma pequena observação, O 11.04 vem com Gnome 2 mas a 11.10 virá com o Gnome 3. O Unity é apenas o shell do Ubuntu, não substitui o Gnome. Recomendo a todos que ouçam o Podcast Opencast episódio #2 [1] que tem uma conversa com André Gondim e um dos pontos que falamos é exatamente desta confusão que muita gente tem feito a respeito do Ubuntu abandonar ou não o Gnome. [1] http://www.ubuntero.com.br/2011/03/opencast-episodio-2-comunidade-ubuntu-br/ Em 09-04-2011 10:50, Marcelo da Silva escreveu: É pessoal, que pena a Canonical apostar no Unity. O Gnome3 parece estar bem mais agradável, vejam: http://gnome3.org/ O Suse e Fedora estão com ele. Claro que pode-se instalar depois, mas sabe aquele ditado, a primeira impressãp é a que fica? Marcelo Silva --- -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- *Conheça meu livro Lógica de Formação de Acordes! !* *Pedidos para o endereço :* *renatoal...@renatoalvim.com* []´s - *Renato Alvim* - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - *OMB* 32.375 *Sítio* : :www.renatoalvim.com *blog*:http://renatoalvim.blogs.sapo.pt Budista - Nam-Myoho-Rengue-Kyo - -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- *Conheça meu livro Lógica de Formação de Acordes! !* *Pedidos para o endereço :* *renatoal...@renatoalvim.com* []´s - *Renato Alvim* - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - *OMB* 32.375 *Sítio* : :www.renatoalvim.com *blog*:http://renatoalvim.blogs.sapo.pt Budista - Nam-Myoho-Rengue-Kyo - -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Será que o Ubuntu vai ficar fora dessa? - GNOME3 quase lando!
Isso aí! Em 10 de abril de 2011 17:25, Julio Henrique Oliveira julioh1...@gmail.comescreveu: Olá, Na minha opinião a versão anterior do grub tinha uma configuração mais simples e otimizada e não precisava mexer nisso. Se haviam aspectos a serem mudados, não era o modo de configuração que precisava mudar. []'s Júlio Em 10/04/2011 16:46, Sidney slin...@gmail.com escreveu: Boa tarde pessoal, entrando de curioso no assunto... Aqui uso o grub2 tranquilo. Acho simples e objetivo. Quando vi os comentários de vocês fiquei curioso. O que exatamente não presta ou falta no grub2? Abraço.. Sidney 2011/4/10 Julio Henrique Oliveira julioh1...@gmail.com Concordo com você. O grub2 ficou uma porcaria. Abraços Júlio Em 10/04/2011 10:58, Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.com escreveu: E já chega o Grub2, não? Em 9 de abril de 2011 23:35, Renan Traba rv...@inf.ufpr.br escreveu: nen tudo eh as mil maravilhas no gnome3, nao da pra configurar tema nele ( so sendo expert ) Em 9 de abril de 2011 16:16, Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br escreveu: Hum... Muito bom saber disso Ivan. O detalhe é que como o Unity vem como visual default, muitos nem imaginam que podem mudar pro gnome. O Kubuntu vem com o Desktop padrão por default, e muitos nem imaginam que o layout Web pode ser ativado. Talvez um icone de acesso rápido a essas opcões talvez fariam deles melhor e mais conhecidos. Na tela de propriedades do Desktop poderia ter a opcão de mudar do Gnome pro Unity e vice versa. Marcelo Silva -- Em 9 de abril de 2011 15:43, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.br escreveu: Somente uma pequena observação, O 11.04 vem com Gnome 2 mas a 11.10 virá com o Gnome 3. O Unity é apenas o shell do Ubuntu, não substitui o Gnome. Recomendo a todos que ouçam o Podcast Opencast episódio #2 [1] que tem uma conversa com André Gondim e um dos pontos que falamos é exatamente desta confusão que muita gente tem feito a respeito do Ubuntu abandonar ou não o Gnome. [1] http://www.ubuntero.com.br/2011/03/opencast-episodio-2-comunidade-ubuntu-br/ Em 09-04-2011 10:50, Marcelo da Silva escreveu: É pessoal, que pena a Canonical apostar no Unity. O Gnome3 parece estar bem mais agradável, vejam: http://gnome3.org/ O Suse e Fedora estão com ele. Claro que pode-se instalar depois, mas sabe aquele ditado, a primeira impressãp é a que fica? Marcelo Silva --- -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- *Conheça meu livro Lógica de Formação de Acordes! !* *Pedidos para o endereço :* *renatoal...@renatoalvim.com* []´s - *Renato Alvim* - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - *OMB* 32.375 *Sítio* : :www.renatoalvim.com *blog*:http://renatoalvim.blogs.sapo.pt Budista - Nam-Myoho-Rengue-Kyo - -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- *Conheça meu livro Lógica de Formação de Acordes! !* *Pedidos para o endereço :* *renatoal...@renatoalvim.com* []´s - *Renato Alvim* - Rio de Janeiro - RJ -
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [off-topic] Curiosidade sobre outro tópico
Famosa resposta/desabafo. rs Entendi sim... era só uma curiosidade do porquê houve críticas ao 'pobre coitado'. Na verdade apenas uso o básico dele, por isso não tenho esse tipo de situação. Mas deve ser bem irritante, em vista das palavras 'amigáveis' que você usou pra se referir a ele rsss. Agradeço pela resposta. ;) Abraço 2011/4/11 Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.com Nada deve have de mal no grub2. O problema nunca foi ele e sim a falta de sabermos como lidar com ele. Ele pode ser a oitava maravilha do mundo... Mas no antigo a gente mexia facilmente. Nesse, tudo parece infernal. Só iso. Não misturemos as coisas. Ninguém quer abolir o grub2! Queremos apenas lidar com ele sem termos que nos tornara especialistas em grub ou fazer algum pós-graduação! Simples assim... Como era o anterior. |ENtendeu, amigo? Em 11 de abril de 2011 00:25, Sidney slin...@gmail.com escreveu: Bom, tive uma curiosidade aqui na lista de discussão sobre o grub2, citado no tópico do gnome3. Acredito que tenha sido citado pelo fato de o gnome3 ter mantido o grub2. Como não pude simplesmente saber por lá, abri este tópico como foi sugerido sei lá eu por quem... Vou repetir minha questão aqui no novo tópico: Boa tarde pessoal, entrando de curioso no assunto... Aqui uso o grub2 tranquilo. Acho simples e objetivo. Quando vi os comentários de vocês fiquei curioso. O que exatamente não presta ou falta no grub2? Abraço.. Caso precisem saber o contexto da pergunta, está abaixo: [image: Gmail] * Sidney Lins slin...@gmail.com * -- *[Ubuntu-BR] Será que o Ubuntu vai ficar fora dessa? - GNOME3 quase lando!* 10 messages -- * Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br * * 9 avril 2011 10:50 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com É pessoal, que pena a Canonical apostar no Unity. O Gnome3 parece estar bem mais agradável, vejam: http://gnome3.org/ O Suse e Fedora estão com ele. Claro que pode-se instalar depois, mas sabe aquele ditado, a primeira impressãp é a que fica? Marcelo Silva --- -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- * Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.br * * 9 avril 2011 15:43 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Somente uma pequena observação, O 11.04 vem com Gnome 2 mas a 11.10 virá com o Gnome 3. O Unity é apenas o shell do Ubuntu, não substitui o Gnome. Recomendo a todos que ouçam o Podcast Opencast episódio #2 [1] que tem uma conversa com André Gondim e um dos pontos que falamos é exatamente desta confusão que muita gente tem feito a respeito do Ubuntu abandonar ou não o Gnome. [1] http://www.ubuntero.com.br/2011/03/opencast-episodio-2-comunidade-ubuntu-br/ Em 09-04-2011 10:50, Marcelo da Silva escreveu: [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- * Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br * * 9 avril 2011 16:16 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Hum... Muito bom saber disso Ivan. O detalhe é que como o Unity vem como visual default, muitos nem imaginam que podem mudar pro gnome. O Kubuntu vem com o Desktop padrão por default, e muitos nem imaginam que o layout Web pode ser ativado. Talvez um icone de acesso rápido a essas opcões talvez fariam deles melhor e mais conhecidos. Na tela de propriedades do Desktop poderia ter a opcão de mudar do Gnome pro Unity e vice versa. Marcelo Silva -- Em 9 de abril de 2011 15:43, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.br escreveu: [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- * Renan Traba rv...@inf.ufpr.br * * 9 avril 2011 23:35 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com nen tudo eh as mil maravilhas no gnome3, nao da pra configurar tema nele ( so sendo expert ) Em 9 de abril de 2011 16:16, Marcelo da Silva marc...@ig.com.br escreveu: [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- [Texte des messages précédents masqué] -- * JoaoFPR joao...@gmail.com * * 10 avril 2011 09:47 * Répondre à: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com À: Lista de discussão do
[Ubuntu-BR] Um turbulento abril para o Software Livre em Desktops
Oi Vc leu? Um turbulento abril para o Software Livre em Desktops Cárlisson Galdino - 7. abril 2011 - 11:29 - by bardo http://www.carlissongaldino.com.br/post/um-turbulento-abril-para-o-software-livre-em-desktops Depois de falar de Gnome 3 e de Unity o Cárlisson faz uma reflexão que julguei bastante apropriada ( apesar de talvez ter um problema teórico, quanro ao Gnome 3): Como ficam os usuários, tendo que se adaptar à força? Eles se verão obrigados a mudar o conceito para continuarem no Ubuntu de que aprenderam a gostar, agora no Unity, sem terem um porto seguro para onde voltar, caso não se adaptem, já que o GNOME também não será o que eles conheceram. E como ficamos nós, militantes e divulgadores de Software Livre, que a muito custo conseguimos mostrar a algumas pessoas que valia a pena migrar para Ubuntu? Com que cara vamos dizer a eles: “Olha, o Ubuntu agora está com um ambiente diferente! Totalmente diferente, mas está melhor! Mais parecido com o MacOS!”? (como quem imitar os outros é algo que engrandece) Ou quando nos falarem empolgados sobre o Ubuntu, diremos: “Ah, esqueça! O Ubuntu traiu o GNOME e inventou uma parada só deles. Você tem que conhecer agora é a distro GXYZ, que continua trazendo o GNOME” (...e o usuário vai lá e vê que esse GNOME é algo totalmente diferente do Ubuntu que ele conheceu). Talvez esta seja uma grande oportunidade para os outros desktops crescerem... O que você acha? -- Beijins Fa A maré baixa é quando todos os peixes resolvem beber água de uma vez só. - Millôr Fernandes Ubuntu User number is # 32559 Se houver documentos de escritório anexados neste e-mail, eles poderão estar no formato ODF, um padrão aberto, gratuito e homologado pela ISO e ABNT. Para visualizar ou editar, basta copiar e instalar o BrOffice.org em http://broffice.org/download. Cansou de vírus, pragas virtuais, travamentos e falta de desempenho? O melhor anti vírus é usar Linux :) Conheça o novo Ubuntu 10.10! http://www.ubuntu-br.org/ -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [ubuntu-cloud] Ensemble target list, call for action
I would change to Low: mailman Gallery Gallery2 I would like to see gallery3 available with the cloud, it could be very useful for a project we have in the works. Unfortunately it doesn't look like any debs are available yet. If mailman, and other list management software, worked well with Ubuntu's Cloud and managed to stay off DNSBL it could be a real competitive advandage over AWS since it is DNSBL hell. Thanks, Chuck -- Ubuntu-cloud mailing list Ubuntu-cloud@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-cloud
[ubuntu-cloud] New UEC user
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, I am relatively new to Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud. I recently setup EUC for our QA department. It is working fine for our testing but on Friday, I was given a request to see if I could get the stock AMI images for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 64 bit server to deploy with more than 2GB in the root partition. I am not really for someone to 'give me the answer' but kindly point me in the right direction (the opportunity to learn and all). I have downloaded as much documentation as I can this weekend to read. Which I am still reading to get a jump on Monday. I am assuming this is handled in the preseed? Any help in pointing me in the right direction to learn more about Eucalyptus and UEC would be appreciated. - -- Trevor Sharpe E-Mail: tsha...@xmission.com Jabber: tsha...@gmail.com - -- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ---H. L. Mencken -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2iczcACgkQRDaxm/9432KP7QCfZBD3ypPBETA1GBThmzg8EWeE Po4AoLHbjm13HKxJBDz68/ro4R6fL7zs =PnRS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-cloud mailing list Ubuntu-cloud@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-cloud
Re: быстрый проигрыватель вместо тотема
2011/4/2 Роман idi...@rambler.ru: при проигрывании файла есть тормоза, но непонятно то ли это Тотем настолько шустрый то ли ноут уже не тянет... Может есть какой проигрыватель пошустрее ? totem не быстрый, да, ибо на gstreamer. Я использую gxine. -- Serge Matveenko se...@matveenko.ru http://www.ohloh.net/accounts/lig http://ru.linkedin.com/in/sergematveenko -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
[Bug 754522] Re: autofs not starting if no nfs-mount in fstab
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 752730 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/752730 Thomas, thanks for the bug report. I believe this is a duplicate of bug #752730. Marking as such. ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 752730 NFS mounts fail due to upstart condition on 'mounting TYPE=nfs' * You can subscribe to bug 752730 by following this link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs5/+bug/752730/+subscribe -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to autofs5 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/754522 Title: autofs not starting if no nfs-mount in fstab -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 752730] Re: NFS mounts fail due to upstart condition on 'mounting TYPE=nfs'
** Changed in: autofs5 (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: autofs5 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to autofs5 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/752730 Title: NFS mounts fail due to upstart condition on 'mounting TYPE=nfs' -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 752730] Re: NFS mounts fail due to upstart condition on 'mounting TYPE=nfs'
This bug was fixed in the package autofs5 - 5.0.5-0ubuntu6 --- autofs5 (5.0.5-0ubuntu6) natty; urgency=low * Remove mounting TYPE=nfs from start conditions, change to start on filesystem and started networking to still solve bug 733914 as well. (LP: #752730) * Re-add sourcing of /etc/default/autofs to get OPTIONS so upgrades won't lose their settings. -- Clint Byrum cl...@ubuntu.com Sat, 09 Apr 2011 22:48:03 -0700 ** Changed in: autofs5 (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to autofs5 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/752730 Title: NFS mounts fail due to upstart condition on 'mounting TYPE=nfs' -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 750786] Re: nmbd job fails to start on boot
The one I posted is the fixed version, without the and net-device-up IFACE!=lo go figure why, but since maverick.. it's been the only way nmbd has been able to start on boot for me... when the and net-device-up IFACE!=lo is present, only smbd starts and i am unable to view the network computers or access their shares as samba requires both smbd and nmbd to be operationnal to function removing that upstart dependency has fixed it for me without any further bugs or issues to report... I guess it's simply unnecessary in the config? Samba used to work damn fine for me up until maverick... On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Cypher2, thanks for taking the time to file this bug report and help us make Ubuntu better. The nmbd.conf you pasted here is not the current one from natty. The current one has this as its start condition: start on (local-filesystems and net-device-up IFACE!=lo) This means it will be started when any interface *except* lo is configured. Since nmbd is only used for announcing your address to other computers, this makes at least some sense in that it will start nmbd when a real network interface is available. I'm not sure I understand then what it is you want to change. Can you please explain what you expect to happen, and what actually happens? Thanks! Marking Incomplete pending response. ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/750786 Title: nmbd job fails to start on boot Status in “samba” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: Binary package hint: samba Samba fails to start on boot to enable remote file access on ubuntu and windows. I was able to fix the nmbd startup issue on natty and maverick! It has to do with the init scrip at /etc/init/nmbd.conf The start line needs to state start on local-filesystems ONLY! The loopback ethernet interfaces start too late to satisfy the chronological dependency for nmbd to load as process... Thus, /etc/init/nmbd.conf content should be: description NetBIOS name server author Steve Langasek steve.langa...@ubuntu.com start on (local-filesystems) stop on runlevel [!2345] expect fork respawn pre-start script mkdir -p /var/run/samba [ -f /etc/samba/smb.conf ] || { stop; exit 0; } install -o root -g root -m 755 -d /var/run/samba NMBD_DISABLED=`testparm -s --parameter-name='disable netbios' 2/dev/null` [ x$NMBD_DISABLED = xYes ] { stop; exit 0; } exit 0 end script exec nmbd -D ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-7.39-generic 2.6.38 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-7-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Mon Apr 4 17:46:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal - Alpha amd64 (20110302) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_CA:en LANG=en_CA.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash RelatedPackageVersions: nautilus 1:2.32.2.1-0ubuntu11.1 gvfs 1.7.3-0ubuntu2 SambaClientRegression: Yes SourcePackage: samba UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/750786/+subscribe -- *TND*esigns | Graphic Industrial Design Solutions Inc. 514 . 583 . 7386 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/750786 Title: nmbd job fails to start on boot -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 756406] [NEW] there is no easy way to edit/include servers for NTP to sync from like it used to
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: ntp Up to Maverick, when I needed to adjust my NTP daemon where I wanted it to sync from, I could go to the Preferences/Date and time application and add or remove addresses from there (it would then reflect on my /etc/ntp.conf from then on) but now, there is no GUI for that... it simply lets me turn it on or off... the list, preset with pretty sane ntp providers, seemes OK, but one could want to sync to its local server, and had to go back to console and vim the conf file (not a issue for me, but... I believe it was a step back on Natty) ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: ntp 1:4.2.6.p2+dfsg-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.41-generic-pae 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic-pae i686 Architecture: i386 Date: Sun Apr 10 06:23:57 2011 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) KernLog: ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=pt_BR:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=pt_BR.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcVersionSignature_: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.41-generic-pae 2.6.38.2 SourcePackage: ntp UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-10 (0 days ago) mtime.conffile..etc.ntp.conf: 2011-04-10T01:02:40.958183 ** Affects: ntp (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug i386 natty -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/756406 Title: there is no easy way to edit/include servers for NTP to sync from like it used to -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 756406] Re: there is no easy way to edit/include servers for NTP to sync from like it used to
-- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/756406 Title: there is no easy way to edit/include servers for NTP to sync from like it used to -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 733914] Re: autofs races network interfaces, ends up not working
I am seeing the same problem with all updates ... have to start autofs manually -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to autofs5 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733914 Title: autofs races network interfaces, ends up not working -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 756406] Re: there is no easy way to edit/include servers for NTP to sync from like it used to
I am considering this a regression, am I right? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/756406 Title: there is no easy way to edit/include servers for NTP to sync from like it used to -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 740815]
@Wesley the symlinks are created in the wrong way. lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 2011-04-09 10:55 usr/lib/libmozjs185.so.1.0 - /build/pkg//usr/lib/libmozjs185.so.1.0.0 lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 2011-04-09 10:55 usr/lib/libmozjs185.so - /build/pkg//usr/lib/libmozjs185.so.1.0 -rwxr-xr-x root/root 5694336 2011-04-09 10:55 usr/lib/libmozjs185-1.0.a -rwxr-xr-x root/root 342 2011-04-09 10:55 usr/lib/libmozjs185.so.1.0.0 this happens mostly for those who wants to package it and DESTDIR is used and the resulted package doesn't have that target. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to gwt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/740815 Title: [FFe] Updates to enable us to drop xulrunner from main -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 740815]
Ionut; I think you did # ./configure --prefix=/build/pkg/usr/ # make make install and then wanted to move/copy the links that were made, but they were absolute rather than relative links, so this did not work? If I understand correctly, I can fix this in the next release, or perhaps a point release. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to gwt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/740815 Title: [FFe] Updates to enable us to drop xulrunner from main -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 740815]
Wesley: i did ./configure --prefix=/usr make make DESTDIR=/build/pkg install in Makefile.in you have on line: 891 ln -s $(SHLIB_EXACT_VER) $(SHLIB_ABI_VER) 892 ln -s $(SHLIB_ABI_VER) $(SHLIB_ANY_VER) where: 870 # Generic Unix / Linux 871 SHLIB_ANY_VER := $(DESTDIR)$(libdir)/$(SHARED_LIBRARY) 872 SHLIB_ABI_VER := $(DESTDIR)$(libdir)/$(SHARED_LIBRARY).$(SRCREL_ABI_VERSION) 873 SHLIB_EXACT_VER := $(DESTDIR)$(libdir)/$(SHARED_LIBRARY).$(SRCREL_VERSION) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to gwt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/740815 Title: [FFe] Updates to enable us to drop xulrunner from main -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 740815]
Interesting, that is not a configuration I've tested but I will add it to my (very short) list for the next release. In the meantime, I think you can change 891 and 892 of Makefile.in like this to achieve the desired outcome: 891 ln -s $(notdir $(SHLIB_EXACT_VER)) $(SHLIB_ABI_VER) 892 ln -s $(notdir $(SHLIB_ABI_VER)) $(SHLIB_ANY_VER) This would give relative links instead of absolute links, which is the correct behaviour, right? Wes -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to gwt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/740815 Title: [FFe] Updates to enable us to drop xulrunner from main -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 750786] Re: nmbd job fails to start on boot
Excerpts from Cypher2's message of Sun Apr 10 06:48:36 UTC 2011: The one I posted is the fixed version, without the and net-device-up IFACE!=lo go figure why, but since maverick.. it's been the only way nmbd has been able to start on boot for me... when the and net-device-up IFACE!=lo is present, only smbd starts and i am unable to view the network computers or access their shares as samba requires both smbd and nmbd to be operationnal to function removing that upstart dependency has fixed it for me without any further bugs or issues to report... I guess it's simply unnecessary in the config? Samba used to work damn fine for me up until maverick... Thats interesting. Samba was converted to upstart in lucid and had the same start condition then. I wonder if you wouldn't mind booting with the kernel option '--verbose' and posting the contents of /var/log/boot.log with your start condition, and with the original one? One thing that I have seen with smbd is that it starts but respawns rapidly until the loopback interface comes up. The test I describe above will determine if nmbd is doing that as well. On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Cypher2, thanks for taking the time to file this bug report and help us make Ubuntu better. The nmbd.conf you pasted here is not the current one from natty. The current one has this as its start condition: start on (local-filesystems and net-device-up IFACE!=lo) This means it will be started when any interface *except* lo is configured. Since nmbd is only used for announcing your address to other computers, this makes at least some sense in that it will start nmbd when a real network interface is available. I'm not sure I understand then what it is you want to change. Can you please explain what you expect to happen, and what actually happens? Thanks! Marking Incomplete pending response. ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/750786 Title: nmbd job fails to start on boot Status in “samba” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: Binary package hint: samba Samba fails to start on boot to enable remote file access on ubuntu and windows. I was able to fix the nmbd startup issue on natty and maverick! It has to do with the init scrip at /etc/init/nmbd.conf The start line needs to state start on local-filesystems ONLY! The loopback ethernet interfaces start too late to satisfy the chronological dependency for nmbd to load as process... Thus, /etc/init/nmbd.conf content should be: description NetBIOS name server author Steve Langasek steve.langa...@ubuntu.com start on (local-filesystems) stop on runlevel [!2345] expect fork respawn pre-start script mkdir -p /var/run/samba [ -f /etc/samba/smb.conf ] || { stop; exit 0; } install -o root -g root -m 755 -d /var/run/samba NMBD_DISABLED=`testparm -s --parameter-name='disable netbios' 2/dev/null` [ x$NMBD_DISABLED = xYes ] { stop; exit 0; } exit 0 end script exec nmbd -D ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-7.39-generic 2.6.38 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-7-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Mon Apr 4 17:46:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal - Alpha amd64 (20110302) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_CA:en LANG=en_CA.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash RelatedPackageVersions: nautilus 1:2.32.2.1-0ubuntu11.1 gvfs 1.7.3-0ubuntu2 SambaClientRegression: Yes SourcePackage: samba UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/750786/+subscribe -- *TND*esigns | Graphic Industrial Design Solutions Inc. 514 . 583 . 7386 -- You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/750786 Title: nmbd job fails to start on boot Status in “samba” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: Binary package hint: samba Samba fails to start on boot to enable remote file access on ubuntu and windows. I was able to fix the nmbd startup issue on natty and maverick! It has to do with the init scrip at /etc/init/nmbd.conf The start line needs to state start on local-filesystems ONLY! The loopback ethernet interfaces start too late to satisfy the chronological dependency for nmbd to load as process... Thus, /etc/init/nmbd.conf content should be: description NetBIOS name server author Steve Langasek steve.langa...@ubuntu.com start on
Re: [Bug 750786] Re: nmbd job fails to start on boot
alright.. i'll revert back to the original config and verbose it... On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Cypher2's message of Sun Apr 10 06:48:36 UTC 2011: The one I posted is the fixed version, without the and net-device-up IFACE!=lo go figure why, but since maverick.. it's been the only way nmbd has been able to start on boot for me... when the and net-device-up IFACE!=lo is present, only smbd starts and i am unable to view the network computers or access their shares as samba requires both smbd and nmbd to be operationnal to function removing that upstart dependency has fixed it for me without any further bugs or issues to report... I guess it's simply unnecessary in the config? Samba used to work damn fine for me up until maverick... Thats interesting. Samba was converted to upstart in lucid and had the same start condition then. I wonder if you wouldn't mind booting with the kernel option '--verbose' and posting the contents of /var/log/boot.log with your start condition, and with the original one? One thing that I have seen with smbd is that it starts but respawns rapidly until the loopback interface comes up. The test I describe above will determine if nmbd is doing that as well. On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Cypher2, thanks for taking the time to file this bug report and help us make Ubuntu better. The nmbd.conf you pasted here is not the current one from natty. The current one has this as its start condition: start on (local-filesystems and net-device-up IFACE!=lo) This means it will be started when any interface *except* lo is configured. Since nmbd is only used for announcing your address to other computers, this makes at least some sense in that it will start nmbd when a real network interface is available. I'm not sure I understand then what it is you want to change. Can you please explain what you expect to happen, and what actually happens? Thanks! Marking Incomplete pending response. ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/750786 Title: nmbd job fails to start on boot Status in “samba” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: Binary package hint: samba Samba fails to start on boot to enable remote file access on ubuntu and windows. I was able to fix the nmbd startup issue on natty and maverick! It has to do with the init scrip at /etc/init/nmbd.conf The start line needs to state start on local-filesystems ONLY! The loopback ethernet interfaces start too late to satisfy the chronological dependency for nmbd to load as process... Thus, /etc/init/nmbd.conf content should be: description NetBIOS name server author Steve Langasek steve.langa...@ubuntu.com start on (local-filesystems) stop on runlevel [!2345] expect fork respawn pre-start script mkdir -p /var/run/samba [ -f /etc/samba/smb.conf ] || { stop; exit 0; } install -o root -g root -m 755 -d /var/run/samba NMBD_DISABLED=`testparm -s --parameter-name='disable netbios' 2/dev/null` [ x$NMBD_DISABLED = xYes ] { stop; exit 0; } exit 0 end script exec nmbd -D ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-7.39-generic 2.6.38 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-7-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Mon Apr 4 17:46:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal - Alpha amd64 (20110302) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_CA:en LANG=en_CA.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash RelatedPackageVersions: nautilus 1:2.32.2.1-0ubuntu11.1 gvfs 1.7.3-0ubuntu2 SambaClientRegression: Yes SourcePackage: samba UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/750786/+subscribe -- *TND*esigns | Graphic Industrial Design Solutions Inc. 514 . 583 . 7386 -- You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/750786 Title: nmbd job fails to start on boot Status in “samba” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: Binary package hint: samba Samba fails to start on boot to enable remote file access on ubuntu and windows. I was able to fix the nmbd startup issue on natty and maverick! It has to do with the init scrip at /etc/init/nmbd.conf The start line needs to state start on local-filesystems ONLY!
Re: [Bug 750786] Re: nmbd job fails to start on boot
Here is boot.log with default: - Begin: Loading essential drivers ... done. Begin: Running /scripts/init-premount ... done. Begin: Mounting root file system ... Begin: Running /scripts/local-top ... done. Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount ... done. Begin: Running /scripts/local-bottom ... done. done. Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done. fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 udevd[424]: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please use ATTR{}= to match the event device, or ATTRS{}= to match a parent device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules:1 /dev/sda1: clean, 178236/15269888 files, 3541805/61049344 blocks init: ureadahead-other main process (761) terminated with status 4 init: Failed to spawn network-manager main process: unable to execute: No such file or directory * Starting AppArmor profiles [240G [234G[ OK ] * Starting Kernel Oops catching service kerneloops [240G * Stopping System V initialisation compatibility[234G[ OK ] * Starting System V runlevel compatibility[234G[ OK ] * Starting CPU interrupts balancing daemon[234G[ OK ] * Starting ACPI daemon[234G[ OK ] * Starting save kernel messages[234G[ OK ] * Starting automatic crash report generation[234G[ OK ] * Starting anac(h)ronistic cron[234G[ OK ] * Starting regular background program processing daemon[234G[ OK ] * Starting deferred execution scheduler[234G[ OK ] [234G[ OK ] speech-dispatcher disabled; edit /etc/default/speech-dispatcher * Starting the Winbind daemon winbind [240G --- On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Nathanel Titane nathanel.tit...@gmail.com wrote: alright.. i'll revert back to the original config and verbose it... On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Cypher2's message of Sun Apr 10 06:48:36 UTC 2011: The one I posted is the fixed version, without the and net-device-up IFACE!=lo go figure why, but since maverick.. it's been the only way nmbd has been able to start on boot for me... when the and net-device-up IFACE!=lo is present, only smbd starts and i am unable to view the network computers or access their shares as samba requires both smbd and nmbd to be operationnal to function removing that upstart dependency has fixed it for me without any further bugs or issues to report... I guess it's simply unnecessary in the config? Samba used to work damn fine for me up until maverick... Thats interesting. Samba was converted to upstart in lucid and had the same start condition then. I wonder if you wouldn't mind booting with the kernel option '--verbose' and posting the contents of /var/log/boot.log with your start condition, and with the original one? One thing that I have seen with smbd is that it starts but respawns rapidly until the loopback interface comes up. The test I describe above will determine if nmbd is doing that as well. On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Cypher2, thanks for taking the time to file this bug report and help us make Ubuntu better. The nmbd.conf you pasted here is not the current one from natty. The current one has this as its start condition: start on (local-filesystems and net-device-up IFACE!=lo) This means it will be started when any interface *except* lo is configured. Since nmbd is only used for announcing your address to other computers, this makes at least some sense in that it will start nmbd when a real network interface is available. I'm not sure I understand then what it is you want to change. Can you please explain what you expect to happen, and what actually happens? Thanks! Marking Incomplete pending response. ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/750786 Title: nmbd job fails to start on boot Status in “samba” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: Binary package hint: samba Samba fails to start on boot to enable remote file access on ubuntu and windows. I was able to fix the nmbd startup issue on natty and maverick! It has to do with the init scrip at /etc/init/nmbd.conf The start line needs to state start on local-filesystems ONLY! The loopback ethernet interfaces start too late to satisfy the chronological dependency for nmbd to load as process... Thus, /etc/init/nmbd.conf content should be: description NetBIOS name server author Steve Langasek steve.langa...@ubuntu.com start on (local-filesystems) stop on runlevel [!2345] expect fork respawn pre-start script mkdir -p
Re: [Bug 750786] Re: nmbd job fails to start on boot
Actually, I'M sorry... please disregard the previous log... it had a typo and didn't even load up... Here's the good default one: Begin: Loading essential drivers ... done. Begin: Running /scripts/init-premount ... done. Begin: Mounting root file system ... Begin: Running /scripts/local-top ... done. Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount ... done. Begin: Running /scripts/local-bottom ... done. done. Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done. udevd[432]: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please use ATTR{}= to match the event device, or ATTRS{}= to match a parent device, in /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules:1 fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 /dev/sda1: clean, 178242/15269888 files, 3541919/61049344 blocks init: ureadahead-other main process (756) terminated with status 4 init: Failed to spawn network-manager main process: unable to execute: No such file or directory * Starting AppArmor profiles [240G [234G[ OK ] * Stopping Flush boot log to disk[234G[ OK ] --- Pay attention tho the init: Failed to spawn network-manager main process: unable to execute: No such file or directory around the end On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Nathanel Titane nathanel.tit...@gmail.com wrote: Here is boot.log with default: - Begin: Loading essential drivers ... done. Begin: Running /scripts/init-premount ... done. Begin: Mounting root file system ... Begin: Running /scripts/local-top .. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/750786 Title: nmbd job fails to start on boot -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs