Re: [ubuntu-in] New Linux User's Group: WBUT.LXUG

2011-02-16 Thread Manish Sinha

On 02/16/2011 02:57 AM, PRABIN DATTA wrote:

just want to express the situation. Okay! sorry to everyone.

snip

Thanks to all you for your suggestions!!
But, Waiting for few more suggestion on this.
Thank you!!


Don't have anything to say much except -  creating a product is easier 
than creating a community. Sitting on the internet and sending messages 
doesn't create a user group. You have to physically organize meeting and 
workshops to get people interested.


Creating yet another group does not solve the purpose unless there is 
some concrete reasons. If you want to help out people, why don't you use 
NIT-Durgapur LUG (if you want proximity). Or ask them to come on 
##linux-india on irc.freenode.net


I have to say that in India apart from regional LUGs, there is hardly 
any mailing lists for distro agnostic discussion.



 Ya! Group shouldn't be bounded to any Distribution like fedora, 
Ubuntu, etc.


I don't find any killer advantage in this. Surely it does help in 
bringing people closer, but after a certain period, the interest might 
fade as people who use Distribution X might find that most of the 
questions are for distro X and Z.
Group shouldn't be found to any distro is idealism. Apart from LUGs 
groups bound to distro are more successful(dont have stats, but personal 
experience). Yes this is sad truth.


Groups independent of distro is good idea, but groups bound to distros 
are not evil.


I have seen many groups come and go, and learnt the hard way - Be a part 
of bigger group and advance it's growth. Or create Local LUG to promote 
FOSS at grassroots level.



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Re: [ubuntu-in] New Linux User's Group: WBUT.LXUG

2011-02-15 Thread PRABIN DATTA
 mind you lang people are watching you and you are about to be in the state 
 where you would be needed to be placed somewhere.
Thanks!! Satyaakam for pointing out my mistake. By using that word I
just want to express the situation. Okay! sorry to everyone.

1st reason for writing about this group on this mailing list is to get
helps and suggestions from you people and happy to say that I have
already started receiving helps and suggestions from you people.

Why I have created this group??
* Group shouldn't be bounded to any Distribution like fedora, Ubuntu, etc.
* Each and every year there are atleast 3/4 events conducted by wbut
students. But both organisers and attendees face problem due to the
lack of any common place. Few of the problems are:
1. many students who want to attain these events missed out due to lack of news.
2. if there is any change in date or time then organiser can update
the info on event's wiki (or web) page but if any attendee missed out
those changes, will cause problems.
3. lack of experienced volunteers.
and many more.
Also, a group like this will help to bring forward many hidden talents
and at the same time, it will be helpful for Linux users.

 which means folks not on facebook can't join.
+
 If you want to have some real service to the community,
 come out of facebook and other social networks to build the community.
First, I have though about this. But later on talking with fedora
guys, I found that there are already many groups created like this and
almost all failed.
Also, I couldn't find any free website i.e., providing wiki pages
where anyone can write (information, FAQ, etc) about Linux and also
providing mailing list. Ya! Group shouldn't be bounded to any
Distribution like fedora, Ubuntu, etc.

Thanks to all you for your suggestions!!
But, Waiting for few more suggestion on this.
Thank you!!
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Re: [ubuntu-in] New Linux User's Group: WBUT.LXUG

2011-02-15 Thread satyaakam goswami
 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:57 AM, PRABIN DATTA linux.n@gmail.comwrote:

  mind you lang people are watching you and you are about to be in the
 state where you would be needed to be placed somewhere.
 Thanks!! Satyaakam for pointing out my mistake. By using that word I
 just want to express the situation. Okay! sorry to everyone.


 1st reason for writing about this group on this mailing list is to get
 helps and suggestions from you people and happy to say that I have
 already started receiving helps and suggestions from you people.

 Why I have created this group??
 * Group shouldn't be bounded to any Distribution like fedora, Ubuntu, etc.


not possible , it will remain your dream , also you should know you do not
have time and energy even if you have how long will you doing it , any  way
we have been around and will be around to keep an eye on your thoughts.


 * Each and every year there are atleast 3/4 events conducted by wbut
 students. But both organisers and attendees face problem due to the
 lack of any common place. Few of the problems are:
 1. many students who want to attain these events missed out due to lack of
 news.


fossevents.in was conceived for the same purpose , talk about it work on it



 2. if there is any change in date or time then organiser can update
 the info on event's wiki (or web) page but if any attendee missed out
 those changes, will cause problems.
 3. lack of experienced volunteers.
 and many more.
 Also, a group like this will help to bring forward many hidden talents
 and at the same time, it will be helpful for Linux users.

  which means folks not on facebook can't join.
 +
  If you want to have some real service to the community,
  come out of facebook and other social networks to build the community.
 First, I have though about this. But later on talking with fedora
 guys, I found that there are already many groups created like this and
 almost all failed.
 Also, I couldn't find any free website i.e., providing wiki pages
 where anyone can write (information, FAQ, etc) about Linux and also
 providing mailing list. Ya! Group shouldn't be bounded to any
 Distribution like fedora, Ubuntu, etc.


ok here is my piece of advice like what others have said , you can
contribute by writing code , be it fedora , ubuntu or any other distro all
will get benefited also it will help you in your career  having said
that what you do today  will decide your future path ..

have a nice day , i am out of this thread.


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[ubuntu-in] New Linux User's Group: WBUT.LXUG

2011-02-14 Thread PRABIN DATTA
Dear friends,
I have created a new Group and need your help to make this one the
most successful Linux Users Group in whole World,

Group Name:-   WBUT.LXUG (WBUT Linux Users Group)
Group Link:-  http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_181997788508986
Group Email Address:- wbut.l...@groups.facebook.com

* If you are interested in Linux? Yes
* If you want to know about Linux? Yes
* If you are afraid of using Linux, since you feel that it's hard to use? Yes
* If you are screwed-up while searching for any Linux related problems? Yes

If your answer is Yes for any of the above questions, I request you to
join WBUT.LXUG Group in facebook.

I request all students from wbut colleges to take hand in hand with me
to involve more and more students on this group.
Your help is very important to us!!!

If you are non-wbut student or not a student and thinking to ignore
this mail? WAIT!
This group's name is WBUT Linux Users Group but ANYONE can join this group.
If you are thinking, what you will do in this group, since you are not
a student?
You can help us to solve many Linux related problems/queries which
will be asked by our friends.

Thank You!! and Happy Valentine!!


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Re: [ubuntu-in] New Linux User's Group: WBUT.LXUG

2011-02-14 Thread satyaakam goswami
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:17 AM, PRABIN DATTA linux.n@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear friends,
 I have created a new Group and need your help to make this one the
 most successful Linux Users Group in whole World,


How?

Group Name:-   WBUT.LXUG (WBUT Linux Users Group)
 Group Link:-
 http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_181997788508986
 Group Email Address:- wbut.l...@groups.facebook.com

 * If you are interested in Linux? Yes
 * If you want to know about Linux? Yes
 * If you are afraid of using Linux, since you feel that it's hard to use?
 Yes
 * If you are screwed-up while searching for any Linux related problems? Yes

 mind you lang people are watching you and you are about to be in the state
where you would be needed to be placed somewhere.

If your answer is Yes for any of the above questions, I request you to
 join WBUT.LXUG Group in facebook.


Why?


 I request all students from wbut colleges to take hand in hand with me
 to involve more and more students on this group.
 Your help is very important to us!!!


Why?


 If you are non-wbut student or not a student and thinking to ignore
 this mail? WAIT!
 This group's name is WBUT Linux Users Group but ANYONE can join this group.
 If you are thinking, what you will do in this group, since you are not
 a student?
 You can help us to solve many Linux related problems/queries which
 will be asked by our friends.


What happens when you leave have you thought about it ?


 Thank You!! and Happy Valentine!!


Why?

i saw and dug through your mails , if you want to serve your alter ego then
go ahead and do so , i saw conversations on Fedora lists too , there also
not many supporters of your new found cause in a positive way for this group
still you want to pursue it , explain how is is it going to serve the
purpose other than your alter ego. also explain how this present mailing
lists and groups are not doing there job well.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] New Linux User's Group: WBUT.LXUG

2011-02-14 Thread Ramnarayan.K
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:17 AM, PRABIN DATTA linux.n@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friends,
 I have created a new Group and need your help to make this one the
 most successful Linux Users Group in whole World,
 Group Name:-   WBUT.LXUG (WBUT Linux Users Group)

how come its a new user group, because a group with the same name already exists
see http://wbut-lug.webs.com

okay okay the x is missing but is yours an exceptional fork or what

 Group Link:-      http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_181997788508986
 Group Email Address:- wbut.l...@groups.facebook.com

which means folks not on facebook can't join.

**
am sure there are many reasons for your LUG

who  would be its target members , what is the something that this
list or maybe other LUG lists people are already on, does not offer
that your list does

ram

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Re: [ubuntu-in] New Linux User's Group: WBUT.LXUG

2011-02-14 Thread Shrinivasan T

 Group Link:-      http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_181997788508986
 Group Email Address:- wbut.l...@groups.facebook.com

If you want to have some real service to the community,
come out of facebook and other social networks to build the community.

read here on my thoughts.
http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2010/10/28/issues-on-social-networking-communities-and-solutions/

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Re: [ubuntu-in] New Linux User's Group: WBUT.LXUG

2011-02-14 Thread Ramnarayan.K
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you want to have some real service to the community,
 come out of facebook and other social networks to build the community.

 read here on my thoughts.
 http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2010/10/28/issues-on-social-networking-communities-and-solutions/

good thoughts

have you checked out diaspora - the open(ish) source social networking
tool in which the data etc remains with the users and not the company.
It is also a self deployed social networking tool as opposed to a
globally implemented company driven one

it seems a good tool in the general set of tools required for online interaction

ram

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