Re: [ubuntu-in] Retrieving Track details from Audio CD's
The track information will be storen in thumbs.db file which is invisible in windows On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Kingsly John [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +++ Ramnarayan.K [2008-06-03 10:11:31]: AFAIK even when winamp or other windows media players have been offline they are still able to get / show the trackand album details (basically name of the song etc) Even in the days when we (as in where i am) did not have internet we got the track details which would mean they are stored somewhere on the disc itself. So why can't we just get that info. The info needs to be there on the disc for it to be retreived. Most CDs don't have that information. CDDB/FreeDB exist to provide that information, based on other details from the disc. Second (maybe unrelated) why can't i browse an Audio CD like a regualar disc ?? Because Audio CDs don't have a file system.(Audio CDs outdate PCs! CD-ROM drives came much later!) i have a cd Cafe De Flore and Sound Juicer shows all the track details nicely - how come ?? these details were available in Sound Juicer not wincedoze It must have CD-Text information on the disc.(an extension to the redbook standard that regular audio CDs use.) Kingsly -- --- Kingsly At Users Dot SourceForge Dot Net -- http://kingsly.org/ --- -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Retrieving Track details from Audio CD's
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Have been wondering what software is there that shows the track details that are on audio cd's the audio cd's open by default in Sound Juicer and very rarely do i get the track details so i i tried installing cd-cat. cdfs-src (too complicated),cd discid etc but nothing seems to work and i just get unknown album, unknown tracks. So whats the solution and advise / tips Audio CD's don't have any track details. Sound Juicer retrieves track details from online databases such as Musicbrainz, provided the details are available for your CD. You will need to be online for retrieval to work. Musicbrainz is community managed database, anyone can register and add details for the CD. There is some menu item in sound juicer which will let you add details yourself. Onkar -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Retrieving Track details from Audio CD's
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Onkar Shinde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Audio CD's don't have any track details. Sound Juicer retrieves track details from online databases such as Musicbrainz, provided the details are available for your CD. You will need to be online for retrieval to work. So what does sound juicer retrieve, just something it has in its database How does oen get the details from an aduio cd which are present on it - as when we play it with a cd player or in wincedoze ?? i have a cd Cafe De Flore and Sound Juicer shows all the track details nicely - how come ?? thanks ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Retrieving Track details from Audio CD's
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Ramnarayan. K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Onkar Shinde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Audio CD's don't have any track details. Sound Juicer retrieves track details from online databases such as Musicbrainz, provided the details are available for your CD. You will need to be online for retrieval to work. So what does sound juicer retrieve, just something it has in its database How does oen get the details from an aduio cd which are present on it - as when we play it with a cd player or in wincedoze ?? I think winamp and windows media player have facility to retrieve details from servers. Look for something called CDDB in preferences. But it has been really long time since I used windows so can't tell for sure. i have a cd Cafe De Flore and Sound Juicer shows all the track details nicely - how come ?? AFAIK, every album cd has a unique identifier. The data is tored in database against this identifier. So sound juicer just uses this id to retrieve details. Onkar -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Retrieving Track details from Audio CD's
[snip] a) i prefer freedb over CDDB. you may web-search to find out the differences between them. b) almost all lookup client software tend to look up a local subdirectory first, and then go to freedb or whatever you've set, next. somehow, i tend not to like the idea of my client software doing these lookups, so have stopped this ability in all my software. whenever i do wish to lookup details of an album, i actually go to amazon.com or to other music sites, and manually look up details of tracks, and type them in. cumbersome. quirky. fun. some day, try out last.fm. nothing to do with this, but the 'similar' feature is a logical extension of a mere lookup feature. regards niyam -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Retrieving Track details from Audio CD's
Thanks Onkar, Niyam On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Onkar Shinde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think winamp and windows media player have facility to retrieve details from servers. Look for something called CDDB in preferences. But it has been really long time since I used windows so can't tell for sure. First am still not sure how the track details work. AFAIK even when winamp or other windows media players have been offline they are still able to get / show the trackand album details (basically name of the song etc) Even in the days when we (as in where i am) did not have internet we got the track details which would mean they are stored somewhere on the disc itself. So why can't we just get that info. Second (maybe unrelated) why can't i browse an Audio CD like a regualar disc ?? i have a cd Cafe De Flore and Sound Juicer shows all the track details nicely - how come ?? these details were available in Sound Juicer not wincedoze -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Retrieving Track details from Audio CD's
On Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:11:31AM +0530, Ramnarayan.K wrote: Second (maybe unrelated) why can't i browse an Audio CD like a regualar disc ?? You can. cdfs: Homepage:http://www.elis.rug.ac.be/~ronsse/cdfs/ Description: A file system for Linux systems that 'exports' all tracks and boot images on a CD as normal files. -- It seems like once people grow up, they have no idea what's cool. -- Calvin -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Retrieving Track details from Audio CD's
+++ Ramnarayan.K [2008-06-03 10:11:31]: AFAIK even when winamp or other windows media players have been offline they are still able to get / show the trackand album details (basically name of the song etc) Even in the days when we (as in where i am) did not have internet we got the track details which would mean they are stored somewhere on the disc itself. So why can't we just get that info. The info needs to be there on the disc for it to be retreived. Most CDs don't have that information. CDDB/FreeDB exist to provide that information, based on other details from the disc. Second (maybe unrelated) why can't i browse an Audio CD like a regualar disc ?? Because Audio CDs don't have a file system.(Audio CDs outdate PCs! CD-ROM drives came much later!) i have a cd Cafe De Flore and Sound Juicer shows all the track details nicely - how come ?? these details were available in Sound Juicer not wincedoze It must have CD-Text information on the disc.(an extension to the redbook standard that regular audio CDs use.) Kingsly -- --- Kingsly At Users Dot SourceForge Dot Net -- http://kingsly.org/ --- pgp5kzGj5JJqA.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
