[ubuntu-marketing] Dell and the Linux promise
For some days now there has been an avalanche of requests for linux including Ubuntu, on Dell machines, on the new site http://www.dellideastorm.com/ in which Dell has asked for comments about its products and services. The overwhelming requests have been for linux, including Ubuntu. The Dell response so far has pointed towards their immediate move to provide certification for certain distributions and certain hardware. See: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/ideastorm/ideasinaction?c=us&l=en&s=gen [extract] == "...We are listening, and as a result, we are working with Novell to certify our corporate client products for Linux..." == Good. But why do I not see a Ubuntu comment in addition to Novell? And why is it only corporate products? -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Dell and the Linux promise
alan c wrote: > For some days now there has been an avalanche of requests for linux > including Ubuntu, on Dell machines, [...] > But why do I not see a Ubuntu comment in addition to Novell? > And why is it only corporate products? > Eric S Raymond provides some insight in his " World Domination 201" paper. I posted about this in the past few days here: http://www.salmar.com/pipermail/wftl-lug/2007-February/015369.html http://www.salmar.com/pipermail/wftl-lug/2007-February/015384.html So really, we need to stop correlating the survey with their Novell announcement and remember this is a limited, corporate-market target, Novell-only-for-now deal. Good news, but certainly not "Any Linux on all Dells for eveyone, because of this single survey". Why ? Among other reasons, the seer size of Dell - but also pressure from MS I guess. They actually clarified that later on: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=linux_and_unix&articleId=9011907&taxonomyId=122&intsrc=kc_top Fabian Rodriguez https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FabianRodriguez -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] UWN Status?
Matt: It seems Cody is on leave, Jenda is gone til mid March, and Corey doesn't seem to have too much time to spare. That leaves the UWN floating around. I'd be more then happy to help get it out until some of the regulars come back, but I don't have the authority to do it. In an effort to get it moving again, I moved it from Gobby into the Wiki again: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue30 I will try and work on whatever bits I can to get it close to it being released. Martin On 2/28/07, Matt Galvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > With a more sane schedule again I went to check out the UWN stuff and > it seems to have stagnated a bit. Is anyone still working on it? If so > whats going on with it? It seems a new issue has not been release in > about a month. Thanks in advance for any updates. > > Matt > > -- > ubuntu-marketing mailing list > ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing > -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Dell and the Linux promise
Fabian Rodriguez wrote: > alan c wrote: >> For some days now there has been an avalanche of requests for linux >> including Ubuntu, on Dell machines, [...] >> But why do I not see a Ubuntu comment in addition to Novell? >> And why is it only corporate products? >> > > Eric S Raymond provides some insight in his " World Domination 201" > paper. I posted about this in the past few days here: > http://www.salmar.com/pipermail/wftl-lug/2007-February/015369.html > http://www.salmar.com/pipermail/wftl-lug/2007-February/015384.html > > So really, we need to stop correlating the survey with their Novell > announcement and remember this is a limited, > corporate-market target, Novell-only-for-now deal. Good news, but > certainly not "Any Linux on all Dells for eveyone, because of this > single survey". Why ? Among other reasons, the seer size of Dell - but > also pressure from MS I guess. > > They actually clarified that later on: > http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=linux_and_unix&articleId=9011907&taxonomyId=122&intsrc=kc_top > > Fabian Rodriguez > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FabianRodriguez yes thanks, the corporate question was perhaps a distraction. My main concern is that someone closely related to Ubuntu is into the situation to get a good and early outcome for Ubuntu. This does *not* mean preinstalled by Dell I think that is rather unlikely, but influencing the information about drivers. Dell are not going to do much for ubuntu just yet, but we can get a lot of leverage about drivers and maybe influence Dell choices behind the scenes. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] UWN Status?
Thanks Martin! I've just updated the next UW IRC meeting schedule. Please let me/us know how to help. Cheers, isabelle On 3/1/07, Martin Albisetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt: > > It seems Cody is on leave, Jenda is gone til mid March, and Corey > doesn't seem to have too much time to spare. > That leaves the UWN floating around. > I'd be more then happy to help get it out until some of the regulars > come back, but I don't have the authority to do it. > > In an effort to get it moving again, I moved it from Gobby into the > Wiki again: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue30 > > I will try and work on whatever bits I can to get it close to it being > released. > > > > Martin > > On 2/28/07, Matt Galvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > With a more sane schedule again I went to check out the UWN stuff and > > it seems to have stagnated a bit. Is anyone still working on it? If so > > whats going on with it? It seems a new issue has not been release in > > about a month. Thanks in advance for any updates. > > > > Matt > > > > -- > > ubuntu-marketing mailing list > > ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing > > > > -- > ubuntu-marketing mailing list > ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing > -- bapoumba -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] UWN Status?
On 2/28/07, Matt Galvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > With a more sane schedule again I went to check out the UWN stuff and > it seems to have stagnated a bit. Is anyone still working on it? If so > whats going on with it? It seems a new issue has not been release in > about a month. Thanks in advance for any updates. > > Matt I am currently crazily busy due to the new version of the Ubuntu book and my office moving. I would love it if somebody would step in and kick it going again. Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Marking the Feisty release
Hi all, I was involved in some discussions yesterday about coming up with some ideas of how to mark the Feisty release in a unique and interesting way. The idea is that the community could do something interesting, attention grabbing and potentially wacky that will not only show off the community but also mark a new Ubuntu release. There were two distinctive ideas which I think are goers: * Show Your Ubuntu - encourage our users and community to take a picture of themselves holding the Ubuntu logo in variety of different situations and scenarios. * The Big Ubuntu Logo Competition - set a challenge for the community to photograph the biggest Ubuntu logo or circle of friends that they can. This can involve people constructing logos in a variety of ways, so long as the core aspects of the logo are present. I just wanted to get your thoughts and ideas. :) Jono -- Jono Bacon Ubuntu Community Manager jono(at)ubuntu(dot)com www.ubuntu.com / www.jonobacon.org -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marking the Feisty release
On 3/1/07, Jono Bacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I was involved in some discussions yesterday about coming up with some > ideas of how to mark the Feisty release in a unique and interesting way. > The idea is that the community could do something interesting, attention > grabbing and potentially wacky that will not only show off the community > but also mark a new Ubuntu release. > > There were two distinctive ideas which I think are goers: > > * Show Your Ubuntu - encourage our users and community to take a > picture of themselves holding the Ubuntu logo in variety of different > situations and scenarios. System76 had a photo contest with their stickers. We could do something similar. Should we ask them for their software so as to run it better? > > * The Big Ubuntu Logo Competition - set a challenge for the community > to photograph the biggest Ubuntu logo or circle of friends that they > can. This can involve people constructing logos in a variety of ways, so > long as the core aspects of the logo are present. This is a cool idea. However, we should make it very clear we are not looking for a new logo, merely an Ubuntu crop circle :) As usual, your ideas rock. I would add: My Favourite Ubuntu feature: "In a short sentence, tell us what feature you love most about Ubuntu" Thoughts? Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marking the Feisty release
> On 3/1/07, Jono Bacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> >> I was involved in some discussions yesterday about coming up with some >> ideas of how to mark the Feisty release in a unique and interesting >> way. The idea is that the community could do something interesting, >> attention grabbing and potentially wacky that will not only show off >> the community but also mark a new Ubuntu release. What about encouraging some video shorts much like Firefox did or is doing? Also what about encouraging supporters to contact there local papers and or TV outlets and getting a press release out to them. Maybe the Pres release could be from Canonical? If we hit enuff outlets someone has got to bite. At very least we we maybe able to increase awarnes of the Ubuntu platform to the media people? It would be nice to get some press to the general public to reise awareness of Ubuntu/Linux and Open Source in general. Just some thought. -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
We were just talking about this in IRC and I was advised (sarcastically) to bring my idea forward on the mailing list. The UWN has stagnated and frankly the form in which it was presented is an out-dated model. I want to propose we move to a more "social" solution, that allows for more community involvement. A forum post weekly would be sufficient, but I'm more in favor of a blog-style solution. The benefits of the blog style solution are obvious: - The news is delivered as it happens, in an editorial format that is interesting to users. - Users are able to comment and give feed back on individual editorials - Users are able to add to the editorial themselves through a comment solution. - RSS allows this "news letter" to be delivered directly to anyone who has subscribed to it. I'm sure there are other benefits, but those are the obvious. Potential cons include: - Less professional quality of blog (If the editorial format is followed, it will not look like a machine produced the blog, some see this as a plus) - infrequent posts - opinionated posts (If the editorial format is followed the individual author would be allowed to present the news in a slightly more opinionated format, however it's been shown that people like this kind of thing. It does have it's downfalls though. I feel that ideal sites for this would be wordpress or Blogger.com (blogger may be easier to set up). What do you guys think? -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marking the Feisty release
Hi, Maybe a "Look what Ubuntu did for me" competition will be interesting, Jono i think your ideas anyway are very good. I would like to see though a bit of press action, especially with CNET. Nick Castilla. On 01/03/07, Jono Bacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I was involved in some discussions yesterday about coming up with some ideas of how to mark the Feisty release in a unique and interesting way. The idea is that the community could do something interesting, attention grabbing and potentially wacky that will not only show off the community but also mark a new Ubuntu release. There were two distinctive ideas which I think are goers: * Show Your Ubuntu - encourage our users and community to take a picture of themselves holding the Ubuntu logo in variety of different situations and scenarios. * The Big Ubuntu Logo Competition - set a challenge for the community to photograph the biggest Ubuntu logo or circle of friends that they can. This can involve people constructing logos in a variety of ways, so long as the core aspects of the logo are present. I just wanted to get your thoughts and ideas. :) Jono -- Jono Bacon Ubuntu Community Manager jono(at)ubuntu(dot)com www.ubuntu.com / www.jonobacon.org -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On 3/1/07, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We were just talking about this in IRC and I was advised (sarcastically) to > bring my idea forward on the mailing list. The UWN has stagnated and > frankly the form in which it was presented is an out-dated model. I want to > propose we move to a more "social" solution, that allows for more community > involvement. A forum post weekly would be sufficient, but I'm more in favor > of a blog-style solution. > > The benefits of the blog style solution are obvious: > > The news is delivered as it happens, in an editorial format that is > interesting to users. > Users are able to comment and give feed back on individual editorials > Users are able to add to the editorial themselves through a comment > solution. > RSS allows this "news letter" to be delivered directly to anyone who has > subscribed to it.I'm sure there are other benefits, but those are the > obvious. Potential cons include: > > Less professional quality of blog (If the editorial format is followed, it > will not look like a machine produced the blog, some see this as a plus) > infrequent posts > opinionated posts (If the editorial format is followed the individual author > would be allowed to present the news in a slightly more opinionated format, > however it's been shown that people like this kind of thing. It does have > it's downfalls though. > I feel that ideal sites for this would be wordpress or Blogger.com (blogger > may be easier to set up). What do you guys think? We already have the fridge, so here is a possible idea: Break up the UWN into discrete bits Each bit would be like loco news, last weeks packages, etc. Each bit would be a seperate story on the fridge. This would mean each bit could be released on a specific day. Does that work? Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Corey Burger wrote: > We already have the fridge, so here is a possible idea: > > Break up the UWN into discrete bits > Each bit would be like loco news, last weeks packages, etc. > Each bit would be a seperate story on the fridge. > > This would mean each bit could be released on a specific day. > > Does that work? > > Corey > How does Debian do their weekly news? - -- +--+ |Aaron Toponce _ Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign | |OALUG President( ) http://www.asciiribbon.org | |http://www.aarontoponce.org X Against HTML e-mail| |http://www.oalug.com / \ Against proprietary attachments| +--+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBRecozM55Ebf8BAiPAQr/iggAqB7o/aXxaYq9z55JphyGmwz/KDaDKVCC gynwkozZB2OHnhKPDngP4UrxJya9PqNlTv92uFzQHBYuAFwffwqkhJCOZ6hzu4dC 0d6JqlHeUCEP21g0JS55vjmFaxJ1yXOMnmfcbdJowXxD9oiDpVmlCDDK/jBhbSXW tBQUCD5KRahMosdEdnmqIa3lXG1gWQf1hxL/QBfNo643lT6rb0tjhqmSoMepTGyJ Sid1dL1uYOYRH8N9ZuqnuUtoMbiI6kiefVajVDomVu7An6eXagrsjyeZQWTmWFVo zBpkEdzZm8k7u0krWun3OoWeifnuvaw30Wzk8xp6ln+miebRGva6zg== =iphe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On 3/1/07, Corey Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:We already have the fridge, so here is a possible idea: Break up the UWN into discrete bits Each bit would be like loco news, last weeks packages, etc. Each bit would be a seperate story on the fridge. This would mean each bit could be released on a specific day. Does that work? Corey Corey, I think you misunderstood what I was talking about. Yes the fridge is there, and look at the community participation in it. The articles are short and appear as though they were written by a machine. I'm talking about more "organic" articles, where you can tell the author is actually a person, with opinions etc. It's a common trend anymore for companies and organizations to communicate with their community through blogs. Even Novell's openPR team posts blogs that feel organic, concerning the goings on with the company. Surely there would be less trouble creating a blog to talk about Ubuntu in the news. It wouldn't die if the main members disappeared, etc. -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 12:26 -0700, Aaron Toponce wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Corey Burger wrote: > > We already have the fridge, so here is a possible idea: > > > > Break up the UWN into discrete bits > > Each bit would be like loco news, last weeks packages, etc. > > Each bit would be a seperate story on the fridge. > > > > This would mean each bit could be released on a specific day. > > > > Does that work? > > > > Corey > > > > How does Debian do their weekly news? Hello, if you are going to go and change UWN, please remember that it gets translated and read in several languages. Its evolution should take that into account. Cheers, Isabelle > - -- > +--+ > |Aaron Toponce _ Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign | > |OALUG President( ) http://www.asciiribbon.org | > |http://www.aarontoponce.org X Against HTML e-mail| > |http://www.oalug.com / \ Against proprietary attachments| > +--+ > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iQEVAwUBRecozM55Ebf8BAiPAQr/iggAqB7o/aXxaYq9z55JphyGmwz/KDaDKVCC > gynwkozZB2OHnhKPDngP4UrxJya9PqNlTv92uFzQHBYuAFwffwqkhJCOZ6hzu4dC > 0d6JqlHeUCEP21g0JS55vjmFaxJ1yXOMnmfcbdJowXxD9oiDpVmlCDDK/jBhbSXW > tBQUCD5KRahMosdEdnmqIa3lXG1gWQf1hxL/QBfNo643lT6rb0tjhqmSoMepTGyJ > Sid1dL1uYOYRH8N9ZuqnuUtoMbiI6kiefVajVDomVu7An6eXagrsjyeZQWTmWFVo > zBpkEdzZm8k7u0krWun3OoWeifnuvaw30Wzk8xp6ln+miebRGva6zg== > =iphe > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > -- bapoumba -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
Bapoumba Hello, if you are going to go and change UWN, please remember that it gets translated and read in several languages. Its evolution should take that into account. Cheers, Isabelle - Bapoumba, These blogs could be translated, or even written natively by people who speak those other languages. -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On 3/1/07, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 3/1/07, Corey Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:We already have the > fridge, so here is a possible idea: > > Break up the UWN into discrete bits > Each bit would be like loco news, last weeks packages, etc. > Each bit would be a seperate story on the fridge. > > This would mean each bit could be released on a specific day. > > Does that work? > > Corey > > > Corey, > I think you misunderstood what I was talking about. Yes the > fridge is there, and look at the community participation in it. The > articles are short and appear as though they were written by a machine. I'm > talking about more "organic" articles, where you can tell the author is > actually a person, with opinions etc. It's a common trend anymore for > companies and organizations to communicate with their community through > blogs. Even Novell's openPR team posts blogs that feel organic, concerning > the goings on with the company. Surely there would be less trouble creating > a blog to talk about Ubuntu in the news. It wouldn't die if the main > members disappeared, etc. There is no reason that the fridge cannot become this. There is absolutely no reason to create yet another resource. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:47 -0500, Adam wrote: > Bapoumba > Hello, > > if you are going to go and change UWN, please remember that it > gets > translated and read in several languages. Its evolution should > take that > into account. > > Cheers, > Isabelle > > > - > > Bapoumba, > These blogs could be translated, or even written > natively by people who speak those other languages. > Hey Adam, in the french translation team, we had been talking about getting some additional news in translated UWN. News could be related to events in french-speaking countries for example. We never got to see if it was OK with UWN team, as UWN#30 got held back for a long time. So, brainstorming time! -- bapoumba -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On 3/1/07, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > There is no reason that the fridge cannot become this. There is > > absolutely no reason to create yet another resource. > > > > Corey > > Well then, perhaps we should focus our resources on the Fridge as opposed to > the weekly news letter? Would the marketing team members need special > permissions/titles to post on this forum? Yes, but it is pretty easy to get. Coincidentally, the Fridge mailing list was having a discussion about how to revive/kickstart the fridge. As for translations, I propose we do the following: install a new drupal install, localized, at fr.fridge.ubuntu.com or es.fridge.ubuntu.com. translate each story as it is released (smaller stories are also easier to translate) Now, I shoudl be clear: I am not fully endorsing the idea of moving away from the current style of the UWN. I am merely saying this is how it probably should be structured if it were to change. Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
Hey Adam, in the french translation team, we had been talking about getting some additional news in translated UWN. News could be related to events in french-speaking countries for example. We never got to see if it was OK with UWN team, as UWN#30 got held back for a long time. So, brainstorming time! -- bapoumba I completely agree with the idea that some news is only relevant to the french, etc. Dividing the news up when it's obvious othe people won't care is a good idea. -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
Yes, but it is pretty easy to get. Coincidentally, the Fridge mailing list was having a discussion about how to revive/kickstart the fridge. As for translations, I propose we do the following: install a new drupal install, localized, at fr.fridge.ubuntu.com or es.fridge.ubuntu.com. translate each story as it is released (smaller stories are also easier to translate) Now, I shoudl be clear: I am not fully endorsing the idea of moving away from the current style of the UWN. I am merely saying this is how it probably should be structured if it were to change. Cheers, Corey Ok, well, I'm all for the fridge acting as a blog for the marketing team. It seems like a good compromise on how to get the fridge going again and get news to people. If we're doing that though, I feel the UWN is a useless waste of time. , Adam. -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
Hi, On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 12:09 -0800, Corey Burger wrote: > On 3/1/07, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > There is no reason that the fridge cannot become this. There is > > > absolutely no reason to create yet another resource. > > > > > > Corey > > > > Well then, perhaps we should focus our resources on the Fridge as opposed to > > the weekly news letter? Would the marketing team members need special > > permissions/titles to post on this forum? > > Yes, but it is pretty easy to get. Coincidentally, the Fridge mailing > list was having a discussion about how to revive/kickstart the fridge. I personally think that merging UWN into the Fridge is a bad idea. The Fridge is a great place for people to contribute substantial articles and stories, and we definitely need to work on making it easy to contribute there. However, not all news items are interesting for the Fridge's userbase. The vast majority of the UWN is useful for people working *within* the Ubuntu community to keep in touch with other aspects of the community. As the community grows, the UWN gets more and more *vital* to ensuring that the community can keep in touch and avoid fragmenting. For example, active participants on the Forums can tell us what is happening there, active participants in the art team can do the same, and so on. We must not lose that. So, in sum: the Fridge and the UWN have differing functions, both of which are essential and shouldn't be lost. In order to gain contribution to the UWN, I'd suggest making smaller changes like being more active in encouraging participation, ensuring that the barrier to contribution is low, etc. > As for translations, I propose we do the following: > install a new drupal install, localized, at fr.fridge.ubuntu.com or > es.fridge.ubuntu.com. > translate each story as it is released (smaller stories are also > easier to translate) Generally translations are encouraged to be done on the various local sites. So for documentation, websites and other translations, we encourage the loco teams to present translations on their own websites. While that continues to be the case, we should do the same with news. For example, the Italian team publishes significant news items on its website and also publishes a weekly news with both international and Italian specific news, which has very much its own style and flavour. Matt -- http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marking the Feisty release
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jono Bacon wrote: > Hi all, > > I was involved in some discussions yesterday about coming up with some > ideas of how to mark the Feisty release in a unique and interesting way. > The idea is that the community could do something interesting, attention > grabbing and potentially wacky that will not only show off the community > but also mark a new Ubuntu release. > > There were two distinctive ideas which I think are goers: > > * Show Your Ubuntu - encourage our users and community to take a > picture of themselves holding the Ubuntu logo in variety of different > situations and scenarios. > > * The Big Ubuntu Logo Competition - set a challenge for the community > to photograph the biggest Ubuntu logo or circle of friends that they > can. This can involve people constructing logos in a variety of ways, so > long as the core aspects of the logo are present. > > I just wanted to get your thoughts and ideas. :) > > Jono > Another idea (albeit an at times controversial one) is doing some well-placed PC-Jacking. What this is essentially is bringing a few Live CDs into a store that sells computers, pop them in the CD-ROM drives of any computers that have the drive accessible, reboot, and walk away. If you wish, optionally stick around and photograph customers' intrigue at an unusual desktop. It's also a good idea to leave a short explanation, either as a pamphlet or written directly on the disk, so both interested people know what this is about, and store staff when they (eventually) find it know that it's not actually breaking the hardware. A short stack of CDs to take with and a few pamphlets (like mine that was handed out at the recent Ubuntu Canada-Toronto marketing event) are a great idea if you have the funds. I made a page on the wiki for brainstorming along these lines for anyone interested - all I ask is that of course all such efforts be kept peaceful and reasonable, as we're merely spreading awareness, not seeking some sort of revenge or whatever. For reference and your thoughts, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PCJacking . Tony -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF52Ut6iO+5ByUi/QRAl4bAJ9cQrBef0X191YgQq7X7hKSPT0mSQCeLWu1 U/WBs0hDG9BIQN0V86SpCD0= =s3tb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
Hi all, On jeu, 2007-03-01 at 20:47 +, Matthew East wrote: > However, not all news items are interesting for the Fridge's userbase. > The vast majority of the UWN is useful for people working *within* the > Ubuntu community to keep in touch with other aspects of the community. > As the community grows, the UWN gets more and more *vital* to ensuring > that the community can keep in touch and avoid fragmenting. For example, > active participants on the Forums can tell us what is happening there, > active participants in the art team can do the same, and so on. We must > not lose that. I see another aspect of the UWN. The French translation of the UWN is distributed as: - a mail on the French users mailing list - a topic on the French forum - an article on the French planet At least the two first media, permit people who does not follow the Ubuntu actuality (by not subscribing to any planet, any blog) to be informed on what's going on in Ubuntu. They are not involved in the Ubuntu community, but they are happy to know what's new. We have had a lot of good feed back for the posts on the French users mailing list. With the UWN we *push* informations to users, he does not have to pull it. > > So, in sum: the Fridge and the UWN have differing functions, both of > which are essential and shouldn't be lost. I can not agree more :-). I think there were good ideas for lightening the UWN process in this thread, I would not like this newsletter to be lost, for me, and for the users. I would be glad to help. Cheers, Lionel -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
