Re: Tracking delta between i386 and LPIA arches
* Steve Magoun | We (the folks working on Ubuntu Mobile) would like to make sure this | doesn't happen in the future; is there a good way for us to track the | delta between i386 and LPIA? I found http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | but that doesn't give a concise diff of the two architectures. http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing-ports/hardy_outdate.txt has an overview of out-of-date packages for main. The format is slightly unreadable, which is unfortunate. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Daily images moved; hardy daily builds now available
Hi all, we now produce hardy dailies as well as gutsy ones. The hardy images are available from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/hardy/ The gutsy dailies are now moved to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/gutsy/ -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: UME X startup from upstart in /etc/event.d/session fails unless this patch...
* Peter Antoniac | On Wednesday 19 December 2007 16:04:34 Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | Is there any particular reason why you don't seem to be using | ume-config-common? | | I am using that. But that has nothing to do with what I said. The | problem is when you install the UME on a real device. Probably you | are talking about running X with ume-xephyr-start? : [EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp/ume-config-common-0.7 tail -n 6 debian/postinst # Ew if [ -f /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config ]; then sed -i -e 's/allowed_users=.*/allowed_users=anybody/' /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config fi #DEBHELPER# : [EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp/ume-config-common-0.7 So if that doesn't hit, for some reason, you've found a bug. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: UME X startup from upstart in /etc/event.d/session fails unless this patch...
* Peter Antoniac | It didn't hit :) so it might be a bug. But even if it is a bug, the problem | still remains: you have allowed_users=anybody into the Xwrapper.config. If | you use my patch for the /etc/event.d/session then you we don't need to open | this security hole in Xwrapper.config... Why do you believe this is a security hole? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Port of Liferea to MID now on launchpad
* Ian Lawrence | I have created a launchpad project for the Liferea port to MID: | https://edge.launchpad.net/frothing | | Download URL: | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/frothing/trunk | | It should not be much more work to hack it to look like | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/RSSReaderUI Interesting and thanks for starting this. Are you in touch with upstream about the hildon port, and what have their reaction been so far? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Status report 2007-11-08 → 2007-11-15
== Mobile build infrastructure == Working on fixing up support for using the ubuntu-mobile PPA in addition to the regular sources. This is working in my private builds now, I'll make sure to test those before deploying new daily builds. No progress on getting hardy builds set up yet, this is on the list for next week. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Suggested Platform
* Kevin Fries | Intel support has be a little nervous about another Intel based | solution, is the UME supported on any AMD based boards/devices? AMD is | much better about supporting Linux than Intel, and if I am going to put | boxes on shelves, my experience with Intel's support services regarding | the LV board, has me questioning the company's true commitment to Linux. While I can't speak for Intel in any way, I can at least try to answer the rest of the mail. AMD based boards might work just fine as long as they are x86 compatible and we can add necessary kernel drivers if the current drivers we have isn't sufficient. I don't have a specific board or chipset to recommend apart from our official targets which are the McCaslin and Menlow based boards. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Moblin-applets
* Johan Bilien [...] | statusbar.conf lists the currently used statusbar plugins while | /usr/share/applications/hildon-status-bar lists the available plugins. Can we do that using /etc/hildon-desktop/statusbar.d and enable and disable plugins using symlinks (to the plugins in /usr/share/applications/hildon-status-bar)? | In maemo we have a UI to let the user select which plugins she wants to | use. Same thing for all the containers defined in desktop.conf. We'll probably want the same UI. Does it have a name of any kind (and is it free)? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Moblin-applets
* Spencer, Bob | Tollef Fog Heen wrote: [...] | The usual way would be to make hildon-desktop have a statusbar.d with | configuration file fragments it assembles. | | [...] | | All of the statusbar plugins already have .desktop files in | /usr/share/applications/hildon-desktop/statusbar . The file | /etc/hildon-desktop/statusbar.conf seems mostly useful for dictating the | order. Perhaps they could add an entry for [*] to get anything not | explicitely listed, then we wouldn't need to edit hildon-desktop when we | add a new statusbar plugin. Ordering can be accomplished by numbering the .conf files. | We have similar problems with the other configuration files, such as | marquee.conf. The /etc/hildon-desktop/desktop.conf file references | marquee.conf and marquee.conf is part of hildon-desktop, but its | contents are controled by a separate package. If we want to change the | layout we have to change hildon-desktop. This sounds like something we should get fixed, agreed. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Moblin-applets
* Brandt, Todd E | I would gladly make the change to the hildon-desktop code to pull in a | statusbar.d directory, however I'm not sure the owner would agree to | accept it and it may take a while to push upstream. I can take the AR to | ping the maemo folks about it though. If you could do that, that'd be very helpful. | As for the sudoers issue, there are currently three applications that | need to be granted root access to be run by ume: network-admin and | time-admin from the gnome-system-tools package, and moblin-touchscreen | which edits the xorg conf file. All three are executed by a call to | g_spawn_async with gksu as the command and the argument as one of the | aforementioned three apps. Can we get the last to use input hotplug in Xorg 7.3 so we don't have to edit xorg.conf? | I'm just hesitant to create some sort of moblin-applets root settings | daemon which will require intimate knowledge of packages we don't | control (gnome-system-tools for instance). Well, what we are talking about is just separating out the already-existing infrastructure which edits those files into a daemon and putting a dbus interface on top of that daemon. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Ken: Theme conversation today
* Matt Zimmerman | Is there an update already in progress? Yes, right now. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Moblin-applets
* Matthew Garrett | There's a couple of issues with moblin-applets that I'd prefer to | discuss before getting it into the archive. The first of these is the | modification of the hildon-desktop statusbar config. Shipping a copy in | hildon-desktop and then modifying it in the moblin-applets postinst | would result in a conflict every time the file changes in the | hildon-desktop package. Diversions work badly with conffiles, so I'd be | interested in opinions on how to handle this situation. The usual way would be to make hildon-desktop have a statusbar.d with configuration file fragments it assembles. [...] | A better solution would involve separation of privileges, with the | privileged operations being carried out by a suid backend with careful | validation of all input. However, I appreciate that implementing this | before gutsy is probably unrealistic. What do other people think? Agreed on both counts. Would it be possible to make it use gksu and not modify sudoers, for now? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Status report, week 41
Mobile build infrastructure: We now have the ability to provide builds which contains bits which are not in the archive, which then makes it possible for us to provide builds with the Adobe flash player, etc. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: lpia and lpiacompat flavours
* Lynch, Rusty | What I saw was that the initial ramdisk was not adding either the | squashfs or the unionfs modules (that exist in the target filesystem), | resulting in the initramfs dropping to a shell. Can anyone think of a | reason why the initramfs tools would overlook these modules? Did you include the corresponding linux-ubuntu-modules for the kernel? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Moblin and Gnome
* Spencer, Bob | Lastly, perhaps we could agree on some standards for branching existing | projects. For example #ifdef tag, for code, Makefile.am, | configure.in, etc. Then we could easily go to a project and find | where/if someone else had added mobile-device-specific changes. | | tag = MID or UME or HILDON or MOBILE | (My vote is MID) In the style of autoconf, I suggest we use #ifdef USE_HILDON -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: psb.ko module
* Ben Collins | I think the best way to overcome this is to have a set kernel | development schedule for the release, with relative dates bound by | milestones, freezes, and other dates on the main release schedule. I | think keeping the projects informed about what they can expect from the | kernel, and how they need to interact with the kernel team for their | schedules, would benefit all. Another option would be to have faster-moving targets such as the UME port build-depend on linux-source-2.6.22 and then we can do uploads at our own leisure. This requires a bit more manpower, but would make it harder for us to end up being blocked in the way we've been recently. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: psb.ko module
* Ben Collins | On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 15:29 -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: | On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 11:11:27PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: | On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 12:00:11PM -0700, Johnson, Charles F wrote: |Did the upload, where the missing psb.ko module was included in the lpia |kernel, occur ?? | | No, it's still only in git. The best group to contact about this would | be the Ubuntu kernel team. | | Escalating to Ben, as this bug was reported 5 days ago and is a severe | blocker for mobile builds. | | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/147792 | | We planned an upload for Friday, but that was delayed over till today. It's quite important that when this happens, you tell us so we can communicate this to Intel and the mobile list. [...] | Perhaps Amit can get you a build of the flavor you need, that can be | wedged into the mobile build for immediate testing. Would this get | things going until the upload? We have an explicit policy of having the daily images be built from the archive and nothing else, I would not want this to change. Also, the problem here isn't that I can't work around psb.ko being broken, but rather that the dailies have been broken for quite a while due to the kernel being uploaded too seldomly. At UDS, I'd like us to discuss how we can prevent this problem in the future. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
IRC meeting reminder, 2007-10-04, 1600 UTC
Hi, we'll be having the IRC meeting on #ubuntu-mobile, as usual, tomorrow. Please make sure to post status reports to this list before 1400 UTC, and if you have agenda items, please add them to the list on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/Meeting . -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Status report 2007-09-27
Hi all, I've mainly worked on fixing LPIA support for the dailies last week, so we now have that. No progress on the development environment spec. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Meeting reminder, Sept 13th @ 1600 UTC
Hi, just your regular reminder that we're having a meeting tomorrow, Thursday at 1600 UTC as usual. Please send status updates for all specs to this list before 1400 UTC. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: BLTK PowerTOP
* Jay CHETTY | 1. I was wondering if it's a good idea to include BLTK (Battery Life | Tool Kit) in Ubuntu's gutsy apt repo of debian packages? Possibly; this is the first I have heard of it. Could you give us a reference to where it can be found? | 2. I also noticed that the PowerTOP version in Ubuntu-mobile is not | upto date. The latest version is 1.8 but Ubuntu has 1.7. Are there any good reasons to upgrade to 1.8? We are in upstream version freeze now, so any new upstream versions have to have exceptions approved before being uploaded. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
IRC meeting tomorrow Thursday at 1600 UTC
Hi, this is your regular reminder that we are having an IRC meeting tomorrow Thursday at 1600 UTC. Please make sure to post status updates for your specifications as well as any agenda items to this list before 1400 UTC tomorrow. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Missing .xinitrc: Launching the UI inside of Xephyr in the Target?
* Matthew Garrett | Ideally, generate an authentication file inside the development | environment and then run Xephyr with the -auth argument to tell it to | use that authentication file. That way there's a shared secret between | the clients and Xephyr, which prevents any information leakage. xhost +SI:localuser:root (or whatever user name you're using in the chroot) should also be helpful, and at least I am not aware of any security problems using that mechanism. (The xhost command needs to be run in the host system) -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: me-config-crown-beach 0.10 package
* Johnson, Charles F | When will me-config-crown-beach 0.10 be integrated into the daily build | for menlow_full ?? Yes, we could certainly get that done. I'm restructuring the ume-config-* packages slightly by refactoring the common bits into an ume-config-common package and will upload the new crown beach configuration package together with this change. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Status reports (2007-08-16 → 2007-08-23)
* mobile-development-environment: No further progress; needs seed updates, but otherwise works. * mobile-maemo-packaging-cleanup: Ongoing effort, nothing particularly interesting to report. * mobile-build-infrastructure: Build logs are now available at http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/moblin-build-logs/ . Small changes to the build system, but nothing interesting to report. * mobile-window-manager: Nothing to report. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
IRC meeting reminder - tomorrow Thursday at 1600 UTC
Hi all, we're having the usual IRC meeting tomorrow at 1600 UTC. Please make sure to post status updates for all specs to this list before 1400 UTC Thursday so people have time to read through and prepare questions and agenda items. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: UME Daily Builds Aren't Happening
* Johnson, Charles F | The daily menlow_full builds appear to be just clones of the previous | day. Bit for bit identical. MD5SUM is identical. | | Can someone check what is up? Somebody added moblin-chat to the menlow fset without making sure it exists in ubuntu first. This causes the build to fail and the previous one to be brought forward. I'll take a look at it come Monday. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Patch for ControlPanel
* Brandt, Todd E | Hi all, this is regarding the bug in the control panel in the moblin | environment. [...] Variant over the patch applied and uploaded: === modified file 'src/hcp-grid.c' --- src/hcp-grid.c 2007-06-26 08:21:25 + +++ src/hcp-grid.c 2007-08-17 07:19:46 + @@ -463,7 +463,7 @@ GObjectClass *g_object_class = G_OBJECT_CLASS (class); GtkWidgetClass *widget_class = GTK_WIDGET_CLASS (class); - widget_class-size_request = hcp_grid_size_request; + /* widget_class-size_request = hcp_grid_size_request;*/ widget_class-key_release_event = hcp_grid_keyboard_listener; widget_class-focus_in_event = hcp_grid_focus_in; widget_class-button_press_event = hcp_grid_button_pressed; -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Meeting reminder - today at 1600 UTC
* Tollef Fog Heen [...] http://kryten.incognitus.net/mootbot/meetings/ubuntu-mobile.20070816_1555.html is the summary with actions. http://kryten.incognitus.net/mootbot/meetings/ubuntu-mobile.log.20070816_1555.html is the complete log. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Meeting reminder - today at 1600 UTC
Hi, just a reminder that we're having the meeting today at 1600 UTC, as usual. Please also post your spec status updates to this list before the meeting starts so we can have a short meeting instead of a two-hour one where people spend a lot of time waiting. (As we agreed on in the last meeting.) -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Using a Gutsy Install CD directly on Menlow-Crown Beach system
* Lynch, Rusty | BTW, Matin Xu (in our PRC team) is seeing a hang if he attempts to | enable usplash on Menlow using the UME kernel, but the problem | doesn't show up on the moblin kernel. Is the install using usplash? I don't believe the alternate install CD is using usplash, no. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: A patch for libhildon -- for auto-launch keyboard
* Ross Burton | In Poky we start the keyboard in the X session, and install the GTK+ | input method (part of the matchbox-keyboard source) so that the keyboard | is toggled as required. The keyboard is toggled via IPC between the | input method and the keyboard, so you don't need to constantly kill and | restart it. This looks great; I have a test package, based off current SVN, working here which I'll proceed to upload. Any take on whether I should enable the panel applet as well? Only problem is the keyboard ends up consuming quite a lot of screen real estate, see http://err.no/tmp/DSC_5932.2.JPG for a picture. (The resolution on that device is 1024x600.) I think we could manage to shave off a complete row of keys by reducing the size of Home/PgUp/End/PgDn (or get rid of them completely) and making a numpad there. Getting rid of the arrow keys also seems sensible - you have a touch screen, which is much, much faster to use than using arrows. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: A patch for libhildon -- for auto-launch keyboard
* Michael Dominic K. | Perhaps I'm not fully getting it, but how is that different than | standard gtk input methods stuff? It's not; I'm slowly beginning to understand how those bits fit together now. :-) -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: A patch for libhildon -- for auto-launch keyboard
* Han, Jian | Hi, all | I write a patch for libhildon. It add the feature of auto-launch | keyboard. How is upstream hildon doing this? Is there any reason we can't be doing it the same way? I'd like us to avoid deviating from upstream behaviour as much as possible and rather adopt upstream's approach than invent our own. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: FW: SELinux on Ubuntu
* Johnson, Charles F | Can any of you Canonical guys find out what the official story is as | far as Gutsy is concerned ?? SELinux is not enabled by default and will not be enabled by default for gutsy. Some applications support it; the kernel hooks are there, but I am not aware of anybody currently working on writing a good default policy, which is needed for SELinux to be useful, both as in «the user can use the system» as well as «SELinux provides a useful level of security for the system». If there is sufficient demand for it, we might want to look into it for gutsy+1, but I would like to know what the use cases are before we spend resources on it. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Home applet development in Xephyr
* Bryce Harrington | I can attempt an ugly hack-around but I'm hoping someone can suggest a | better approach? We have temporarily disabled Composite support in the X server. This doesn't solve the problem, but it works around it for now. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Daily builds of UME
Hi all, as of last Friday, we have daily builds of UME. They are available from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/ . We don't currently have published build logs, but I have a ticket about that filed already, so we should have those fairly soon. Note that the images are currently slightly broken, so they don't actually build, but the above URL will start updating again once the builds are fixed. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: IRC meeting Thursday 1600UTC
Hi, notes from the IRC meeting last week; sorry about not posting those before, but I have been on vacation and then busy catching up. The agenda was as follows: * Hildon packaging update (Tollef Fog Heen/Adilson Oliveira) * Flash image creation (Rusty Lynch) * Kernel and hardware support (Ben Collins) - MID Wireless Device Support Kernel Patches for Thermal optimizations * UI, utilities (Bob Spencer) * Graphics (Charlie Johnson) * Build infrastructure (Tollef Fog Heen) * GNOME components (Bob Spencer) * Documentation * Ownerless specs: - UI guide - Browser - Media player UI - Hardware media decoding - USB client - Development environment * Goals for the next week = Hildon packaging update = Adilson gave an update on the packaging. We are now at a point where a first cut of the packages are in gutsy and you can get a hildon desktop up and running only using packages in the archive. This should make anyone wanting to build applications on top of Hildon able to do so. There is a bug in hildon-desktop which makes it crash if you click the application menu, but we are working on fixing that. Adilson believed the custom file picker patch for GTK+ had gone absent and will check up on that. ACTION: Adilson to check if the GTK+ patch is still present. = Flash image creation = The spec is lagging behind the implementation, but the implementation is quite complete already. It needs some tweaks to be able to generate a first generation bootable image, but the Samsung Q1 Ultra device itself is a challenge due to some hardware without drivers. = Kernel and hardware support = There are two bits to this: the necessary kernel patches and the configuration. Jacob and Amit are working together on bringing the patches into the Ubuntu kernel repository, but there are some minor changes that are still needed. ACTION: Jacob to clean up patches and work with Amit on getting them into the kernel repository. = UI Utilities = The specs here are lagging quite badly, but progress on the implementation during the DAM was good. Some docs are written, but not yet put anywhere public, but Bob is going to do that, hopefully by Monday evening. ACTION: Bob to put his note and API / UML somewhere for others to see. = Graphics = Postponed, since Charlie had to leave the meeting at the top of the hour. Will be followed up by email. = Build infrastructure = No progress; Tollef has been on vacation. = GNOME components = The spec here is currently empty. The plan is to fill it with what parts of GNOME Mobile we want to use. Depending on whether we want UME to be a product or a platform, two approaches are possible: - If we are building a product, just use exactly what our applications need. - If we are building a platform, include GMAE and any extras we need for our platform. Consensus on going for the platform approach was reached. = Documentation = Ian Lawrence has taken on the effort of trying to make heads and tails of Hildon from a documentation perspective. There was some discussion as to what documentation system to use. He has set up some preliminary bits on http://proddingthe.net/ which he requests feedback on. He'll also write up a spec about how documentation should be done. ACTION: Ian Lawrence to create specification about documentation. = Ownerless specifications = We had a few ownerless specifications who got new owners: Bob picked up UI guide, Browser, Media player UI, Charlie Johnson got Hardware media decoding and USB client while Tollef Fog Heen picked up Development environment = Goals for next week = The goal is to have all specifications pushed through to approved by the next meeting. Rusty also wants to have the necessary init scripts in place so it's possible to boot straight into a maemo environment. Next meeting is Friday at 1600 UTC to accomodate for Rusty travelling on Thursday. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Spec review: Image Creation
I am currently in the process of going through the various specifications submitted for review or proposal. While approving specs, I came across one which is exceptional, the Image Creation one ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/ImageCreation ). It is well written and comprehensive at the level of being useful as end-user documentation. So, I would like to thank Rusty Lynch a lot for his work here. It's much appreciated and well done. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Spec review: USB Client
I am currently in the process of going through the various specifications submitted for review or proposal. Since I suspect we will end up with a couple of emails back and forth, I'll be splitting those into separate emails. This email is about the USB client one, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/USBClient - The release note bit is not filled in, this needs to happen. - Some boilerplate text is still present in other sections. Please remove anything which isn't applicable to the spec, or fill in the section. The specification lists a couple of different items that need to be developed: - Linux utility - CDC Ethernet - File-backed storage - Peripherial controller driver The spec should at least list how those bits interact and more importantly, what other features in the OS they hook into and if those need any changes. Ideally, a spec should be implementable by a person who only has the spec as his or her guidance as to how to implement a particular feature. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
