Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, March 08, 2016 a las 07:31:28AM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribió:

> El día Tuesday, March 08, 2016 a las 07:09:39AM +0100, Matthias Apitz 
> escribió:
> 
> > El día Monday, March 07, 2016 a las 08:42:50PM +0100, Peter Bittner 
> > escribió:
> > 
> > > Does it work with: Systemeinstellungen > Sprache & Text > 
> > > Tastaturbelegungen  ?
> > 
> > No, this seems to affect only the on-screen keyboard.
> > 
> > I will file a bug issue in launchpad.
> 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-keyboard/+bug/1554366

I will wait (and not send back the QWERTZ keyboard) until the issue gets
fixed.

Meanwhile I will by an additional QWERTY on:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B014LECUUS
Any comments or experiences with this?

matthias


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, March 08, 2016 a las 07:09:39AM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribió:

> El día Monday, March 07, 2016 a las 08:42:50PM +0100, Peter Bittner escribió:
> 
> > Does it work with: Systemeinstellungen > Sprache & Text > 
> > Tastaturbelegungen  ?
> 
> No, this seems to affect only the on-screen keyboard.
> 
> I will file a bug issue in launchpad.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-keyboard/+bug/1554366

matthias

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Monday, March 07, 2016 a las 08:42:50PM +0100, Peter Bittner escribió:

> Does it work with: Systemeinstellungen > Sprache & Text > Tastaturbelegungen  
> ?

No, this seems to affect only the on-screen keyboard.

I will file a bug issue in launchpad.

matthias

> 2016-03-07 20:05 GMT+01:00 Matthias Apitz:
> > I got the BT keyboard/mouse device today and it peers fine with the
> > E4.5. The only problem I have is, it is German QWERTZ layout and I do
> > not know how to change this in the Ubuntu BQ E4.5. Normaly in Ubuntu
> > desktop you can change this, or in FreeBSD, in KDE, etc. How this must
> > be done in the BQ E4.5, mayne with some command from phablets shell.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Peter Bittner]

Does it work with: Systemeinstellungen > Sprache & Text > Tastaturbelegungen  ?


2016-03-07 20:05 GMT+01:00 Matthias Apitz:
> I got the BT keyboard/mouse device today and it peers fine with the
> E4.5. The only problem I have is, it is German QWERTZ layout and I do
> not know how to change this in the Ubuntu BQ E4.5. Normaly in Ubuntu
> desktop you can change this, or in FreeBSD, in KDE, etc. How this must
> be done in the BQ E4.5, mayne with some command from phablets shell.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Friday, March 04, 2016 a las 08:13:44AM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribió:

> I think I have now found exactly what I was locking for:
> http://www.amazon.de/dp/B0142BCTT2?psc=1
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/BATTOP-Ultra-Thin-Bluetooth-Wireless-Keyboard/dp/B0142BCTT2
> Amazon.de has it on stock and delivers even a German QWERTZ layout.

I got the BT keyboard/mouse device today and it peers fine with the
E4.5. The only problem I have is, it is German QWERTZ layout and I do
not know how to change this in the Ubuntu BQ E4.5. Normaly in Ubuntu
desktop you can change this, or in FreeBSD, in KDE, etc. How this must
be done in the BQ E4.5, mayne with some command from phablets shell.

Thanks for any help.

matthias

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Wednesday, March 02, 2016 a las 10:42:43AM +0100, Oliver Grawert 
escribió:

> hi,
> Am Mittwoch, den 02.03.2016, 10:39 +0100 schrieb Oliver Grawert:
> 
> > 
> > well, since you are german:
> > http://tinyurl.com/mediamarkt-bt-kbd
> 
> oops, sorry, thats the 2.4GHz model, but rapoo also offers the same
> thing with BT ...

I think I have now found exactly what I was locking for:
http://www.amazon.de/dp/B0142BCTT2?psc=1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/BATTOP-Ultra-Thin-Bluetooth-Wireless-Keyboard/dp/B0142BCTT2
Amazon.de has it on stock and delivers even a German QWERTZ layout.

Any comments?

matthias

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Wednesday, March 02, 2016 a las 04:20:35PM -0300, Sergio Schvezov 
escribió:

> > Remember it has a US layout ;)
> 
> As a native Spanish speaker in Latin America I need to ask, Is there any
> other "useful" layout? ;-)
> 
> English keyboards on the phone will be great once we get the chance to
> do type 'Alt+' a' to get an á, i.e.; dead keys with AltGr

As a native German speaker I need to say that on any X11 driven
environment it is fácil (easy) to select one Meta-key, for example the useless
so called Windows-key, and with this key held down you just type
naeio...  to get the Spanish tilded chars 

ñáéíó¿¡ÑÁÉÍÓ 

This is just like using the Shift key to get capital letters.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Sergio Schvezov]

El 02/03/16 a las 15:04, Costales escribió:
> Hi!
> I'm so happy with this keyboard: small, cheap, great quality, battery
> for ~40h and works fine with Ubuntu Phone.
> http://goo.gl/urrDwG

I decided to go for MS Wedge http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008OEHTB2
Specifically the Business style but to be fair I can't tell the
difference from the Retail style there.

I chose this keyboard because the keyboard cover serves as a stand (and
a bunch of amazon reviews I read made me go this path) and it is black
(my bq phone is too and it seems that the tablet will be as well). Since
I like consistency I also got the MS Wedge mouse.

So far so good (as long as I'm typing in English).

> Remember it has a US layout ;)

As a native Spanish speaker in Latin America I need to ask, Is there any
other "useful" layout? ;-)

English keyboards on the phone will be great once we get the chance to
do type 'Alt+' a' to get an á, i.e.; dead keys with AltGr

Cheers
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Wednesday, March 02, 2016 a las 07:04:12PM +0100, Costales escribió:

> Hi!
> I'm so happy with this keyboard: small, cheap, great quality, battery for
> ~40h and works fine with Ubuntu Phone.
> http://goo.gl/urrDwG
> 
> Remember it has a US layout ;)
> A hug!

Hello,
Thanks for the hint. I has no touchpad and I hate to move away the
fingers from the keyboard to move some mouse device...

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Costales]

Hi!
I'm so happy with this keyboard: small, cheap, great quality, battery for
~40h and works fine with Ubuntu Phone.
http://goo.gl/urrDwG

Remember it has a US layout ;)
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On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Mark  wrote:

> Okay - this is way out at Left Field!
>
> With the talk of keyboards last night, I had a bit of a revelation that
> perhaps, at least for some, the mouse might be becoming extinct - users
> reaching for the touch-screen in preference.  Following that, I reasoned
> that a stylus, although a somewhat slower method of input, might be
> advantageous for some (in education for example, where writing is said to
> aid memory).
>
> So I was if something like MyScript Stylus -
>
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visionobjects.stylusmobile.v3_2_store=en
> -
>
> could be converted to be used.
>
> Just a thought I thought I'd share. :/
>
> Carry on!
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Oliver Grawert]

hi,
Am Mittwoch, den 02.03.2016, 10:39 +0100 schrieb Oliver Grawert:

> 
> well, since you are german:
> http://tinyurl.com/mediamarkt-bt-kbd

oops, sorry, thats the 2.4GHz model, but rapoo also offers the same
thing with BT ...

ciao
oli


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Oliver Grawert]

hi,
Am Dienstag, den 01.03.2016, 21:11 +0100 schrieb Matthias Apitz:
> Hello,
> 
> Any recommendations for a keyboard/mouse to connect to our BQ E4.5 via
> bluetooth? Best would be (for me) some device in laptopstyle, i.e.
> having the mouse integrated as a touchpad into the keyboard.
> 

well, since you are german:
http://tinyurl.com/mediamarkt-bt-kbd
has the touchpad on the side though, but at least you have the ability
to take a look at it in a shop (and perhaps to even try it with the
phone there) ;) 

and on amazon there are things like:
http://tinyurl.com/amazon-bt-kbd

(the keys dont look really trustworthy though and it seems to bend)

ciao
oli




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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Wednesday, March 02, 2016 a las 09:37:23AM +0100, Olivier Tilloy 
escribió:

> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:19 AM, Alan Pope  wrote:
> > On 1 March 2016 at 20:11, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> >> Any recommendations for a keyboard/mouse to connect to our BQ E4.5 via
> >> bluetooth? Best would be (for me) some device in laptopstyle, i.e.
> >> having the mouse integrated as a touchpad into the keyboard.
> >>
> >
> > I use a Logitech K480 and a ThinkPad Mouse. I've seen a Lenovo
> > keyboard though which I'd quite like as it has a TouchPoint :)
> >
> > http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/itemdetails/0B47187/460/60AC6A0372B14F5BA7B12F1FF88E33C7
> 
> I’m using that one and it works great.

I have at work a Dell E6330 laptop. I'm quite satisfied with it, with one
big exception: it has a TrackPoint in the triangle of the letters G-H-B
which is useless as it has a normal touchpad below the space bar too. More
even, the Trackpoint moves the cursor away from the window where are you
typing (in UNIX one uses 'focus follow mouse' and not 'focus follow
click'). It happens often that I type as an accident into the wrong
window. I removed the TrackPoint, at least the part which one can detach
without to damage the keyboard.

I hate TrackPoints :-)

matthias

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Olivier Tilloy]

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:19 AM, Alan Pope  wrote:
> On 1 March 2016 at 20:11, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
>> Any recommendations for a keyboard/mouse to connect to our BQ E4.5 via
>> bluetooth? Best would be (for me) some device in laptopstyle, i.e.
>> having the mouse integrated as a touchpad into the keyboard.
>>
>
> I use a Logitech K480 and a ThinkPad Mouse. I've seen a Lenovo
> keyboard though which I'd quite like as it has a TouchPoint :)
>
> http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/itemdetails/0B47187/460/60AC6A0372B14F5BA7B12F1FF88E33C7

I’m using that one and it works great.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Mark]

Okay - this is way out at Left Field!

With the talk of keyboards last night, I had a bit of a revelation that 
perhaps, at least for some, the mouse might be becoming extinct - users 
reaching for the touch-screen in preference.  Following that, I reasoned 
that a stylus, although a somewhat slower method of input, might be 
advantageous for some (in education for example, where writing is said 
to aid memory).


So I was if something like MyScript Stylus -

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visionobjects.stylusmobile.v3_2_store=en 
-


could be converted to be used.

Just a thought I thought I'd share. :/

Carry on!

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Roberto Resoli]

Il 01/03/2016 21:11, Matthias Apitz ha scritto:

Hello,

Any recommendations for a keyboard/mouse to connect to our BQ E4.5 via
bluetooth? Best would be (for me) some device in laptopstyle, i.e.
having the mouse integrated as a touchpad into the keyboard.

Thanks for any hints


In a video from MWC i saw a BT Rii keyboard attached to a demoed m10 Tablet:

https://youtu.be/PaA0KQe5gek?t=49

Maybe some person from Canonical could give some detail about keyboard 
model and availability?


bye,
rob

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Gareth France]

On 01/03/16 23:19, Alan Pope wrote:

I use a Logitech K480 and a ThinkPad Mouse. I've seen a Lenovo
keyboard though which I'd quite like as it has a TouchPoint:)

http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/itemdetails/0B47187/460/60AC6A0372B14F5BA7B12F1FF88E33C7
A nipple mouse? In 2016? Really??? Fantastic! I thought they went 
extinct with the dinosaurs!


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Vic G]

Hi Mathias,

The most popular keyboard+mouse combo are the MK series of Logitech o. 
They are the top seller in Amazon for example. Take a look to mk270, 
mk220 or mk260:


http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-MK270-Keyboard/dp/B00BP5KOPA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1456899732=8-1=logitech+mk270

http://www.amazon.com/MM-Logitech-MK220-Wireless-Keyboard/dp/B00OZP1230/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8=1456899705=8-4=logitech+mk220

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-Keyboard-920-002950/dp/B004KSQANO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1456900066=8-1=logitech+mk260


I've tested: K series, mk series and microsoft 800 and 1000 series with 
another touch device and worked fine, even some quick buttons for volume 
or shut down the device works. Please note that, as customer you'll 
always have 15 days to return if it does not work or it does not fit 
your needs =)


cheers,



El 01/03/16 a las 21:36, Matthias Apitz escribió:

El día Tuesday, March 01, 2016 a las 09:30:25PM +0100, Konrad Zapałowicz 
escribió:


Hi,

I do not have that much exp. with BT keyboards so far however make sure
that it is not a BTLE keyboard as this is something that we still need to
work on.

Hi,

I do not have any exp. with BT keyboards, Whai is a BTLE keyboard?
Thanks

matthias


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Alan Pope]

On 1 March 2016 at 20:11, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> Any recommendations for a keyboard/mouse to connect to our BQ E4.5 via
> bluetooth? Best would be (for me) some device in laptopstyle, i.e.
> having the mouse integrated as a touchpad into the keyboard.
>

I use a Logitech K480 and a ThinkPad Mouse. I've seen a Lenovo
keyboard though which I'd quite like as it has a TouchPoint :)

http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/itemdetails/0B47187/460/60AC6A0372B14F5BA7B12F1FF88E33C7

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Pat McGowan]

Bluetooth Low Energy also branded as "Bluetooth Smart" technology



On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Matthias Apitz  wrote:

> El día Tuesday, March 01, 2016 a las 09:30:25PM +0100, Konrad Zapałowicz
> escribió:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I do not have that much exp. with BT keyboards so far however make sure
> > that it is not a BTLE keyboard as this is something that we still need to
> > work on.
>
> Hi,
>
> I do not have any exp. with BT keyboards, Whai is a BTLE keyboard?
> Thanks
>
> matthias
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Gareth France]

On 01/03/16 20:11, Matthias Apitz wrote:

Hello,

Any recommendations for a keyboard/mouse to connect to our BQ E4.5 via
bluetooth? Best would be (for me) some device in laptopstyle, i.e.
having the mouse integrated as a touchpad into the keyboard.

Thanks for any hints

matthias
I'm so glad you asked that. I'm after the same but the one I ordered 
turned out to be permanently paired to a bluetooth dongle it came with. 
About as much use as a chocolate teapot!



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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, March 01, 2016 a las 09:30:25PM +0100, Konrad Zapałowicz 
escribió:

> Hi,
> 
> I do not have that much exp. with BT keyboards so far however make sure
> that it is not a BTLE keyboard as this is something that we still need to
> work on.

Hi,

I do not have any exp. with BT keyboards, Whai is a BTLE keyboard?
Thanks

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Konrad Zapałowicz]

Hi,

I do not have that much exp. with BT keyboards so far however make sure
that it is not a BTLE keyboard as this is something that we still need to
work on.

Best,
konrad

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Matthias Apitz  wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> Any recommendations for a keyboard/mouse to connect to our BQ E4.5 via
> bluetooth? Best would be (for me) some device in laptopstyle, i.e.
> having the mouse integrated as a touchpad into the keyboard.
>
> Thanks for any hints
>
> matthias
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[Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

[Matthias Apitz]

Hello,

Any recommendations for a keyboard/mouse to connect to our BQ E4.5 via
bluetooth? Best would be (for me) some device in laptopstyle, i.e.
having the mouse integrated as a touchpad into the keyboard.

Thanks for any hints

matthias
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