Re: [Ubuntu-phone] UMS instead of MTP
Hi Oliver. Thanks for your feedback too. I see moving to UMS is not that easy. I will work with the issue source (my PC). It was not a matter of speed, etc. Just connect or not connect issue. And yes, I also use WifiTransfer but is a little bit invonvenient with large files as if the screen switches off, the file transfer stops! Thanks anyway! Regards El sábado, 30 de enero de 2016, Oliver Grawert escribió: > hi, > Am Samstag, den 30.01.2016, 12:20 +0100 schrieb Marcos Alonso: >> Hi to all. >> >> Any of you know if it is feasible to connect to the PC through the USB >> cable using UMS (USB Mass Storage) instead of MTP (Media Transfer >> Protocol)? >> >> I know MTP has some benefits in terms of safety but I jst connect to >> my PC and I' m tired of how bad MTP performs in Linux. >> > UMS means you need to have your disk formatted with a filesystem the > connected PC knows (so if you want to be windows compatible you need to > use vfat or NTFS, if you want to be windows and mac compatible only vfat > is left). while it might work for devices with SD card to export the > card, it wouldnt work for directories in your home dir (vfat does for > example not support symlinks, so you couldnt just format the home > partition with it, many things would stop working then). > > android used work around this by creating virtual sdcards that are vfat > formatted and (loop)mounted ... now that they switched to MTP nearly > everywhere they have to carry that hackish legacy forever (apps use the > sdcard path hardcoded for their data etc. to keep them running you need > to keep the mess around) at a high maintenance cost. > > MTP should not be any slower than UMS though, they are both rather > hardware bound wrt. speed (i.e. as fast as the USB connection). if you > really expect issues with MTP here you can enable developer mode to use > adb push to compare the speed and actually file a bug about MTP if you > find they differ much. > > assuming you have wifi where your PC is connected i'd suggest to take a > look at stuart langridges WifiTransfer from the app store (you need to > move the data around afterwards with the file manager though if you want > it in a common dir like "Music" or "Videos" but depending on your > network it is likely a lot faster than USB). > > ciao > oli > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] UMS instead of MTP
Ok, i know there were some problems with MTP some time ago. I'm not sure which version it was... However, in Ubuntu 15.10 it seems to be fixed. So i guess having the equivalent to that from Linux Mint could deliver this fix too. What version do you have? You can find out with this console command: lsb_release -a 17.3 should be the most recent version. I didn't follow the update cycle of Linux Mint, so i don't know how recent it is compared to Ubuntu. Please also keep in mind, that the display of the phone must be on and unlocked. Otherwise it won't connect. I'm not quite sure yet, but maybe it also disconnects after some time if the screen goes off. Apparently that's a security feature. Am 30.01.2016 um 14:16 schrieb Marcos Alonso: Hi Ferdinand. I' m using Linux Mint and OpenSuse. I have the issue with LM. RAndomly does not connect or, if connected, disconnects suddently. Is not a HW issue as OpenSuse on the same laptop does not fail. And both systems are updated. May be some bug... Thanks. Marcos El sábado, 30 de enero de 2016, Ferdinand Holzner mailto:ferdinandholz...@gmail.com>> escribió: > Hi there, > > never had any problems with Ubuntu Phone using MTP. Do you use Ubuntu on Desktop too? Which version is it? Maybe there is an update for that. > > As far as i know there is only MTP supported. Just like on any modern Android phone too. Well.. you could also use adb. But it's not very user friendly. :D > > Am 30.01.2016 um 12:20 schrieb Marcos Alonso: > > Hi to all. > > Any of you know if it is feasible to connect to the PC through the USB cable using UMS (USB Mass Storage) instead of MTP (Media Transfer Protocol)? > > I know MTP has some benefits in terms of safety but I jst connect to my PC and I' m tired of how bad MTP performs in Linux. > > Thanks! > Marcos Alonso > > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] UMS instead of MTP
Hi Ferdinand. I' m using Linux Mint and OpenSuse. I have the issue with LM. RAndomly does not connect or, if connected, disconnects suddently. Is not a HW issue as OpenSuse on the same laptop does not fail. And both systems are updated. May be some bug... Thanks. Marcos El sábado, 30 de enero de 2016, Ferdinand Holzner < ferdinandholz...@gmail.com> escribió: > Hi there, > > never had any problems with Ubuntu Phone using MTP. Do you use Ubuntu on Desktop too? Which version is it? Maybe there is an update for that. > > As far as i know there is only MTP supported. Just like on any modern Android phone too. Well.. you could also use adb. But it's not very user friendly. :D > > Am 30.01.2016 um 12:20 schrieb Marcos Alonso: > > Hi to all. > > Any of you know if it is feasible to connect to the PC through the USB cable using UMS (USB Mass Storage) instead of MTP (Media Transfer Protocol)? > > I know MTP has some benefits in terms of safety but I jst connect to my PC and I' m tired of how bad MTP performs in Linux. > > Thanks! > Marcos Alonso > > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] UMS instead of MTP
hi, Am Samstag, den 30.01.2016, 12:20 +0100 schrieb Marcos Alonso: > Hi to all. > > Any of you know if it is feasible to connect to the PC through the USB > cable using UMS (USB Mass Storage) instead of MTP (Media Transfer > Protocol)? > > I know MTP has some benefits in terms of safety but I jst connect to > my PC and I' m tired of how bad MTP performs in Linux. > UMS means you need to have your disk formatted with a filesystem the connected PC knows (so if you want to be windows compatible you need to use vfat or NTFS, if you want to be windows and mac compatible only vfat is left). while it might work for devices with SD card to export the card, it wouldnt work for directories in your home dir (vfat does for example not support symlinks, so you couldnt just format the home partition with it, many things would stop working then). android used work around this by creating virtual sdcards that are vfat formatted and (loop)mounted ... now that they switched to MTP nearly everywhere they have to carry that hackish legacy forever (apps use the sdcard path hardcoded for their data etc. to keep them running you need to keep the mess around) at a high maintenance cost. MTP should not be any slower than UMS though, they are both rather hardware bound wrt. speed (i.e. as fast as the USB connection). if you really expect issues with MTP here you can enable developer mode to use adb push to compare the speed and actually file a bug about MTP if you find they differ much. assuming you have wifi where your PC is connected i'd suggest to take a look at stuart langridges WifiTransfer from the app store (you need to move the data around afterwards with the file manager though if you want it in a common dir like "Music" or "Videos" but depending on your network it is likely a lot faster than USB). ciao oli -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] UMS instead of MTP
Hi there, never had any problems with Ubuntu Phone using MTP. Do you use Ubuntu on Desktop too? Which version is it? Maybe there is an update for that. As far as i know there is only MTP supported. Just like on any modern Android phone too. Well.. you could also use adb. But it's not very user friendly. :D Am 30.01.2016 um 12:20 schrieb Marcos Alonso: Hi to all. Any of you know if it is feasible to connect to the PC through the USB cable using UMS (USB Mass Storage) instead of MTP (Media Transfer Protocol)? I know MTP has some benefits in terms of safety but I jst connect to my PC and I' m tired of how bad MTP performs in Linux. Thanks! Marcos Alonso -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp