[Bug 394350] Re: RLimitCPU has no effect in Apache

2011-03-27 Thread Neil Van Dyke
I was asked privately whether I found a solution.  We wasted too much
time trying to convince people that we had a credible problem report,
and then it seemed that no one was prepared to actually do anything with
the information.  After that time waste, we decided to give up on
RLimitCPU on Ubuntu, and focused our energies elsewhere.

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[Bug 394350] Re: RLimitCPU has no effect in Apache

2009-07-15 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Here is the virtual host config from the procedure documented in:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/394350/comments/15

It is file:
/etc/apache2/sites-available/default


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[Bug 394350] Re: RLimitCPU has no effect in Apache

2009-07-10 Thread Neil Van Dyke
I have just reproduced the problem with a fresh install with latest
updates, and kept a detailed log as I did so.  Perhaps someone can spot
something I am doing wrong?  I would assume that I'm doing something
wrong, except comparable things work on Debian and with upstream, and my
users also experienced the problem independently before I did.  A fresh
pair of eyes on this would be appreciated!


* Download Ubuntu Server 8.04.2 for i386, and burn it to a CD-R.  I used
  the following, as fetched on 2009-07-01:
  
http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/ubuntu-releases/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.2-server-i386.iso

* Use machine IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T60 with Intel Core Duo (32-bit X86).
  (Note that we have also observed the same behavior on 64-bit server
  hardware.)

* Plug machine into Ethernet.

* Boot the CD-R and do the following:

* Language: English

* From CD boot menu, select: Check CD for defects.  Result: The CD-ROM
  integrity test was successful.  The CD-ROM is valid.  Reboot system.

* Language: English

* From CD boot menu, select: Test memory.  Reboot after a lot of
  successful testing passing.

* Language: English

* From CD boot menu, select: Install Ubuntu Server.

* Choose language: English

* Country: United States

* Detect keyboard layout: No.

* Keyboard origin: USA

* Keyboard layout: USA

* Wait for some device scanning and installing and DHCP.

* Hostname: myserver

* Time zone: Eastern

* Partition disks: Guided - use entire disk.  Write changes to disk.

* Wait for partitioning and fs creation.

* Full name of new user: John Smith

* Username: john

* Supply password.

* No HTTP proxy.

* Additional software selection: OpenSSH server

* Wait, then remove CD when ejected, then let reboot.

* SSH into myserver as john from another machine.  Subsequent
  commands are in this shell unless otherwise specified.

* sudo su -

* apt-get update

* apt-get upgrade

* Note that the following packages are upgraded (at approx. 10pm EDT
  2009-07-10):

  apparmor apparmor-utils apt apt-utils base-files cpp-4.2 cron dash
  file gcc-4.2-base initscripts installation-report libcurl3-gnutls
  libgcc1 libgnutls13 libkrb53 libldap-2.4-2 libmagic1 libsasl2-2
  libsasl2-modules libssl0.9.8 libstdc++6 libvolume-id0
  linux-image-2.6.24-23-server linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-23-server
  lsb-base lsb-release ntpdate python-apt sudo sysv-rc sysvutils tasksel
  tasksel-data tzdata udev update-manager-core

* shutdown -r now

* Wait for reboot.

* SSH into myserver as john from another machine.  Subsequent
  commands are in this shell unless otherwise specified.

* sudo su -

* apt-get install apache2

* Create file /usr/lib/cgi-bin/forever with the contents:

 CUT HERE 
#!/bin/sh
echo Content-Type: text/html
echo 
echo BEFORE
while true ; do
expr 1 + 1  /dev/null
done
echo AFTER
 CUT HERE 

* chmod 0755 /usr/lib/cgi-bin/forever

* /etc/init.d/apache2 stop

* Edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to add an erroneous
  directive to the top of the file: XXX

* /etc/init.d/apache2 start

* Verify that the start failed because of the erroneous directive, which
  confirms this config file really is being used.

* Edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to remove the erroneous
  XXX directive.  Below the ServerAdmin directive line, add the
  directive: RLimitCPU 2 2

* /etc/init.d/apache2 start

* From a Web browser, access forever CGI (using the appropriate address):
  http://192.168.1.79/cgi-bin/forever

* Observe that BEFORE appears, and the HTTP connection remains open
  and loading.

* Determine PID of the forever process (in this case 5179).
  ps auxwf | grep forever

* cat /proc/5179/limits

 CUT HERE 
cat /proc/5179/limits 
Limit Soft Limit   Hard Limit   Units 
Max cpu time  unlimitedunlimitedms
Max file size unlimitedunlimitedbytes 
Max data size unlimitedunlimitedbytes 
Max stack size8388608  unlimitedbytes 
Max core file size0unlimitedbytes 
Max resident set  unlimitedunlimitedbytes 
Max processes 2456624566processes 
Max open files1024 1024 files 
Max locked memory 3276832768bytes 
Max address space unlimitedunlimitedbytes 
Max file locksunlimitedunlimitedlocks 
Max pending signals   2456624566signals   
Max msgqueue size 819200   819200   bytes 
Max nice priority 00
Max realtime priority 00
 CUT HERE 

* Observe that CPU 

[Bug 394350] Re: RLimitCPU has no effect in Apache

2009-07-07 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Why is the status of this still Incomplete?

I realize that the holiday weekend here in the US probably interrupted
work, but it's now almost a week idling on what appears to be an Ubuntu-
specific security/stability problem for Apache servers.

I really need to know if Ubuntu has an imminent solution.

I can't tell whether anyone of the dozens of people copied on this bug
has tried to reproduce the problem yet.

I'm afraid this problem and then lack of response is seriously damaging
my users' confidence in Ubuntu Server, after they recently switched to
it.

Thank you.

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[Bug 394350] Re: RLimitCPU has no effect in Apache

2009-07-07 Thread Neil Van Dyke
* Simply take a fresh Ubuntu 8.04 install (which gets Apache 2.2.8), add
RLimitCPU 2 2 to the default Apache site file, drop the script above
into the cgi-bin dir, and run the CGI.  You'll see that the CGI
process is *not* killed.

* Do the same thing on a Debian stable system (which gets Apache
2.2.9), and the CGI process *is* killed.

* Rig up a build of upstream Apache 2.2.8 (no Ubuntu patches) to use
esssentially the same config file tree as a fresh Ubuntu 8.04 install
(and running on the same Ubuntu 8.04 installed system), and the CGI
process *is* killed.

At this point, unless I made a mistake while troubleshooting, the
problem appears to be in Ubuntu-specific patches to Apache.

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[Bug 394350] Re: RLimitCPU has no effect in Apache

2009-07-07 Thread Neil Van Dyke
(I had not seen Kees Cook's failure to reproduce before I posted my last
message.)

I have just reproduced the problem with a fresh install of 9.04 on an
X86 box.  (I do not have a fresh 8.04 install at the moment.)

I am at a loss to explain why Kees Cook could not reproduce the problem.
I wonder whether he was using a fresh install of an LTS version, or some
other configuration.

I request that this bug be reopened.

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[Bug 394350] Re: RLimitCPU has no effect in Apache

2009-07-03 Thread Neil Van Dyke
I just verified that Ubuntu's 9.04's packaging of Apache 2.2.11 also
exhibits this problem.

Looking through the Ubuntu patches to upstream Apache 2.2.8 (where we
initially noticed the problem), I haven't yet found an obvious cause.

The people who did the packaging or patches on this would be able to
debug this faster than me.  Otherwise, I'll have to start tracing
through unfamiliar Apache source to debug it that way.

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Re: [Bug 394350] Re: RLimitCPU has no effect in Apache

2009-07-02 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Chuck Short wrote at 07/02/2009 09:51 AM:
 Do you have a script or a cgi that tests this bug?
   

The following cgi-bin script can be used to trigger RLimitCPU in a 
correctly functioning Apache.  Setting the limits to 2 seconds of CPU 
time typically permits around 10 seconds of real time to watch the time 
grow in top.  On a correctly functioning Apache, the process 
terminates shortly after 2 seconds of CPU time are incurred.  Thanks.

#!/bin/sh
echo Content-Type: text/html
echo 
echo BEFORE
while true ; do
expr 1 + 1  /dev/null
done
echo AFTER

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[Bug 394350] [NEW] RLimitCPU has no effect in Apache

2009-07-01 Thread Neil Van Dyke
*** This bug is a security vulnerability ***

Public security bug reported:

Binary package hint: apache2

The Apache RLimitCPU directive has no effect on in the Ubuntu
packaging of Apache 2.2.8.  We have reproduced this problem on multiple
Ubuntu 8.04 systems, including a freshly-installed one.

We have verified that it *does* work on the same machine when using an
unmodified upstream source build of 2.2.8.  We have also verified that
it works on Debian stable (using Debian packaging of Apache 2.2.9).

This arguably constitutes a DoS security vulnerabilitys, since the
Ubuntu packaging of Apache is not preventing a runaway process from
taking down the server as a correctly operating Apache (including
upstream) does.

The cause appears to be in either Ubuntu-specific (or Debian-specific)
patches to 2.2.8 in the Ubuntu/Debian-specific configuration setup in
Ubuntu packaging of 2.2.8.

If the problem can be fixed in the Ubuntu packaging of Apache as an
update to 8.04, so that we could use it on our server, that would be
great.  Otherwise, we will have to move to a build of upstream Apache or
move away from Ubuntu.

Thank you.


Description:Ubuntu 8.04.2
Release:8.04

ii  apache2 2.2.8-1ubuntu0.9
Next generation, scalable, extendable web server
ii  apache2-mpm-worker  2.2.8-1ubuntu0.9
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ii  apache2-utils   2.2.8-1ubuntu0.9
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ii  apache2.2-common2.2.8-1ubuntu0.9
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** Affects: apache2 (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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