Re: [Bug 456224] Re: Installing bind9 with forwarders causes loss of hostname resolution.

2009-10-29 Thread cwsupport

Mathias Gug wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 08:24:46AM -, cwsupport wrote:
   
 Resolv.conf did have two lines with nameserver entries for the two
 entries that were moved to Bind9.

 

 I can't reproduce this. Using a standard karmic system, installing the
 bind9 package does *not* delete any lines in /etc/resolv.conf. It
 doesn't even use the entries in /etc/resolv.conf to setup forwarders (ie
 the default bind9 configuration isn't a local cache).
   
I never said the installer did this. I moved the lines from resolv.conf
to the forwarders section.
  
   
 Before this is discounted though how come DIG still resolves (i.e.
 automatically uses 127.0.0.1) yet PING (and other programs) don't?
 

 DIG bypasses the libc stack (and thus resolv.conf - the same way has
 host does) while ping uses the libc stack (and thus uses the information
 from resolv.conf).


 Is the resolvconf package installed on the system?
   
Yes. Is this expected behaviour from dig? If so then I suspect the libc
stack has been fixed and no longer auto-resolves using 127.0.0.1 for DNS
services. In which case this can be closed as works for me.

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[Bug 456224] Re: Installing bind9 with forwarders causes loss of hostname resolution.

2009-10-22 Thread cwsupport
Resolv.conf did have two lines with nameserver entries for the two
entries that were moved to Bind9.

This configuration WORKS under Hardy Heron and AFAIK intrepid.

The problem is resolved via an entry in resolv.conf of 'nameserver
127.0.0.1'.

Before this is discounted though how come DIG still resolves (i.e.
automatically uses 127.0.0.1) yet PING (and other programs) don't? This
is a CHANGE from operation under Hardy Heron - The reason for me raising
the issue is to ascertain that this is now correct behaviour - given
that ping and dig both work with an identical setup under hardy heron.

Is it that the libc name resolution stack has changed?

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[Bug 456224] [NEW] Installing bind9 with forwarders causes loss of hostname resolution.

2009-10-20 Thread cwsupport
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: bind9

Ubuntu Karmic Koala 9.10 BETA
FULLY updated via apt-get dist-upgrade

bind9:  1:9.6.1.dfsg.P1-3

After bind9 is installed hostname resolution no longer occurs on programs such 
as ping. However dig resolves successfully via the local server.
Bind9 has been configured to execute as a local-cache (i.e. no zones just 
caching forwarded requests).

/etc/resolv.conf is EMPTY.
/etc/nsswitch.conf contains:
---
hosts:  files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
---

/etc/bind9/named.conf.options contains:
-
options {
directory /var/cache/bind;

// If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want
// to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source
// directive below.  Previous versions of BIND always asked
// questions using port 53, but BIND 8.1 and later use an unprivileged
// port by default.

// query-source address * port 53;

// If your ISP provided one or more IP addresses for stable
// nameservers, you probably want to use them as forwarders.
// Uncomment the following block, and insert the addresses replacing
// the all-0's placeholder.

forwarders {
212.139.132.43;
212.139.132.44;
};

auth-nxdomain no;# conform to RFC1035
listen-on-v6 { any; };
};
-
Taking the DNS servers into /etc/resolv.conf and uninstalling bind9 results in 
hostname resolution being restored.


THIS WORKS UNDER Ubuntu Intrepid 8.04.

** Affects: bind9 (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 456224] Re: Installing bind9 with forwarders causes loss of hostname resolution.

2009-10-20 Thread cwsupport
Oops. I mean Hardy Heron 8.04.

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[Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2009-10-20 Thread cwsupport
This is *STILL* an issue in Karmic Koala 9.10 BETA.

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[Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2009-10-20 Thread cwsupport
NOTE: The patch works for Karmic Koala as well.

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[Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-11-03 Thread cwsupport
Here is a patch to /etc/init.d/ntp that will ensure that the NTP service
comes up and the hwclock is re-sync'd even if the panic-threshold would
normally stop ntpd from syncing.

This may not be applicable to everyone but I believe it should be the
default behaviour - maybe a switch could be applied in /etc/default to
handle this?

** Attachment added: Patch /etc/init.d/ntp to ensure date is sycnd and hwclock 
is adjusted prior to executing ntp daemon.
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19293063/ntp.initd.patch

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[Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-11-03 Thread cwsupport
oops. re: the last patch.

I still believe that the option to set the date via ntpdate
automatically should be based on options in /etc/default and that merely
having the ntp package installed should not invoke functionality in a
mandatory manner without being able to easily switch off that
functionality.

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[Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-11-03 Thread cwsupport
Here is a patch that works in conjunction with the previous patch.

If the ntp daemon is running already it is simply restarted (previous
patch includes syncing ntpdate and setting the hwclock in the init.d
script).

If the ntp daemon is not running already ntpdate-debian is called and
the hwclock is set BUT the ntp daemon is NOT started.

** Attachment added: Patch to /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate.
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19293187/ntpdate.ifupd.patch

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Re: [Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-11-03 Thread cwsupport
Hi,

Yes thats the whole problem! The no-association IDs is caused by ntpd
coming up too early - a restart fixes this.
What the fix does is PRIOR to S23ntp running ntpd will not be started
due to the if-up script - this means that subsequently when S23ntp runs
S15bind9 has already come up and therefore addresses on a local DNS
based server will resolve.

Testing shows this works a treat and doesnt interfere with my laptop's
wireless card connection either.

The test about ntpd running is merely to determine whether or not to use
the init.d script and restart. If its not running you wont get 'no
association IDs' - you will get 'connection refused' when using ntpq.

Hope this helps,
Barry

J Carerra wrote:
 RE: the previous three...

 h...I am sure I have seen cases where ntpd is running, but no
 associations are active;  therefore, I am not sure that just testing if
 ntpd is running fully covers all possible cases..

   

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Re: [Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-11-03 Thread cwsupport
It will not affect them in any way at all. The ntpd will come up at the
right time as specified in rc2.d.

Resolution without local DNS will result in gethostbyname() going out to
an external DNS and this functionality will not be affected.

The fix is therefore transparent to most users (hence why it probably
hasnt been picked up so far).

The fix will be a god-send to anyone running a server that also hosts
DNS (bind9 typically). The fix is therefore more important to
corporates. Most end-users not running DNS servers probably wonder what
all the current fuss is about.

TTFN
Barry

J Carerra wrote:
 You say addresses on a local DNS server will resolve.  What about the
 vast majority of people who do not have a local DNS server and rely on
 internet DNS?

   

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Re: [Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-10-26 Thread cwsupport
Hi,

I disagree with this diagnosis..

S28NetworkManager is a red-herring. For a start Hardy doesnt have
this...Looking at the startup for Hardy:

S15bind9
S16openvpn
S16ssh
S17mysql-ndb-mgm
S17portmap
S18avahi-daemon
S18mysql-ndb
S19mysql
S20apmd
S20apport
S20cupsys
S20cyrus2.2
S20exim4
S20hotkey-setup
S20jboss
S20nfs-common
S20nfs-kernel-server
S20nvidia-kernel
S20powernowd
S20rsync
S20samba
S20saslauthd
S20ser2net
S20winbind
S20xl2tpd
S23ntp

As you can see S23ntp is up WAY after bind9. DNS clients resolving using
gethostbyname() only need the network up - and on worst case (i.e. my
machine with a caching DNS server) it needs to be up after S15bind9. It
seems to me the problem is that NTP is run before the *network* cards
are brought up properly (certainly before eth0). By the time it hits
S23ntp the damage was already done a long time before.

Resolution is based around /etc/nsswitch.conf, /etc/hosts and
/etc/resolv.conf. As it happens I am running caching DNS servers (bind9)
on all these machines as well - to fail to obtain the host that means
NTP is being executed PRIOR to S15bind9.

Now I have to say...the situation with the NTP daemon is a farce and
there have been so many people 'tampering' with NTPD startup that quite
frankly the use of /etc/rc2.d scripts is being completely undermined.
What is needed is a proper solution here rather than yet more tampering.
The NTP daemon is being started already from around 3 different places.
It is the ordering and interaction of these which is causing the
problems - coupled with the fact that the NTP daemon itself does not
perform any kind of retry-recovery internally.

Thomas wrote:
 I just finished a fresh U8.10-rc install.
 Plain vanilla, all I added was the NTP package.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /etc/rc5.d/S2[38]*
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Oct 26 14:18 /etc/rc5.d/S23ntp - ../init.d/ntp
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Oct 26 10:10 /etc/rc5.d/S28NetworkManager - 
 ../init.d/NetworkManager

 NTP starts before Network Manager, meaning that NTP won't have DNS available 
 at startup.
 It tends to work, but moving NTP's startup after Network Managers should make 
 it more reliable. It will also allow NTPDATE to run (it's called from the 
 ip-up scripts, but will fail as NTPD will already own the socket).

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep ntp-server /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

 NTP servers still aren't requested by default. If whoever set up your
 DHCP server knows enought to advertise NTP server(s) then chances are
 you should use them (or at the very least PREPEND them).

   

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[Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-10-26 Thread cwsupport
re tampering :) Know how you feel.

Because of this I feel it is better to fix the problem at source (pun
intended!) and have raised #288914 [
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/288914 ] to try to
prompt discussions. When I get a chance I will d/l the source and fix it
properlybut im a couple of months away of being able to fit that
into my workload.

The question I have yet to resolve is *what* is pulling NTPD up prior to
S15bind9 being executed (and I reckon it happens more than once!).

If NTP worked as I suggested in 288914 then all this messing about in
dhcp scripts, ifup scripts etc would completely disappear and we can
stick with just executing ntpd once from S23ntp quite happily - or even
earlier if desired.

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Re: [Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-10-26 Thread cwsupport
Hi,

Onno Benschop wrote:
 On 25/10/08 04:42, cwsupport wrote:
   
 The NTP server comes up  down like a yoyo during system boot
 
 How did you determine this?

   
I see lots of ntp started  messages during startup.

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Re: [Bug 288478] Re: Ownership of /etc/sasl2db precludes direct access by Cyrus IMAP

2008-10-24 Thread cwsupport
Hi,

Im not sure that will help as the permissions of the installed sasldb
are root.root with no acl on it.

Perhaps the issue is two-fold, the cyrus-common-2.2 install (which I
think creates the user) should include the sasl group permission for the
cyrus user, and cyrus-sasl2 should correct the group access on the
/etc/sasldb2 file to be root.sasl ?

Is it expected that all access will go through saslauthd? I used to run
this but changed to having the imap service access the sasldb directly
which saves memory etc as there is no need for me to run the saslauthd
service at all.

Or does this come under one of those cross-package configuration issues
that are basically resolved by hand?

Cheers,
Barry


Scott Kitterman wrote:
 Adding cyrus to the sasl group should also solve it.  I don't think this
 is an actual bug in cyrus-sasl2.

   

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Re: [Bug 288478] Re: Ownership of /etc/sasl2db precludes direct access by Cyrus IMAP

2008-10-24 Thread cwsupport
Hi,

The cyrus user *is* in the sasl group. However the permissions on
/etc/sasldb2 are root.root.
I believe this should either be cryus.sasl or as a minimum root.sasl

TTFN
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Scott Kitterman wrote:
 Interesting. I checked a couple of my boxes and it was in the sasl
 group.

   

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[Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-10-24 Thread cwsupport
This IS NOT fixed. Using 4.2.4p4+dfsg-3ubuntu2 on 8.04.1 I have 3
machines doing this and ALL failing.

The NTP server comes up  down like a yoyo during system boot - which is 
laughable.
The when ntpd is executed from init.d to bring the services up as expected it 
fails becuase the socket isnt available.
ntpq -p after login states 'no association IDs'.

ifdown --all
ifup --all

fixes - as does /etc/init.d/ntp restart

** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu Hardy)
   Status: Fix Released = New

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Re: [Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-10-24 Thread cwsupport
Hi,

All fresh installs. ntp installed POST installation via apt-get.
Ubuntu Server 8.04.1  Kubuntu Desktop 8.04.1 KDE4 Remix.
Mixture of DHCP and static IP.
 - As an example the desktop I am email from had 4 network interfaces. 2
static IP and 2 DHCP all specified under /etc/network/interfaces. 2
static both cabled, gateway specified on one of them. 2 marked as DHCP
not connected. Only eth0 and eth1 marked as auto. This typical of 5
server installs and 3 desktop installs which are all have this issue.

The machine it *does* work is a laptop with eth0 (DHCP not connected)
and ath0 (WPA wireless managed by knetworkmanager). This seems to always
come up OK. But that is probably because the wireless network comes up
under ifup post-login and the ifup scripts are probably doing their job.
I cannot remember if it works properly under a cabled eth0 with DHCP as
I always use the wireless on the laptop.

Hope this helps,
Barry

Onno Benschop wrote:
 The machines that you are having issues with, were they fresh hardy
 installs, upgrades, or a mixture?

 How are their network interfaces managed?

 Are they running Ubuntu, or Ubuntu-server?

 In re-reading this bug-report, I can see there are many issues that
 appear to affect this bug and the NTP server restarting several times
 during boot appears to be related to the several ways in which it's
 started.

 While not ideal by any stretch of the imagination, the aim was to get to
 a point after boot at which time ntpdate had succesfully run and NTP -
 if installed - was running.

 From your report, this does not appear to be the case.

 ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu Hardy)
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[Bug 288478] [NEW] Ownership of /etc/sasl2db precludes direct access by Cyrus IMAP

2008-10-23 Thread cwsupport
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: sasl2-bin

Ubuntu: 8.04.1
Version: 2.1.22.dfsg1-18ubuntu2

The Cyrus IMAP server runs as the user cyrus. But the /etc/sasl2db does
not provide sufficient permissions for direct access by the IMAP server.
saslauthd has no problems as it runs as root.

Fix: chown cyrus.sasl /etc/sasl2db

** Affects: cyrus-sasl2 (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 287781] [NEW] Nut UPS user does not have access to the serial ports.

2008-10-22 Thread cwsupport
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: nut

Ubuntu Server: 8.04.1
nut: 2.2.1-2.1ubuntu7.1

The 'nut' user is not given access to the serial ports. This is because
during install of the 'nut' package the user was not added to the
'dialout' group.

Fix: 
usermod -g nut -G dialout nut

** Affects: nut (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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Nut UPS user does not have access to the serial ports.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/287781
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