[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases

2012-09-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Blueprint changed by Clint Byrum:

Work items changed:
  Work items:
  Author and communicate proposed release plan to juju mailing list: DONE
- revisit charm store release policy on juju mailing list: TODO
- (Placeholder) Implement testing plan after discussion: BLOCKED
- (Placeholder) Implement release plan after discussion: BLOCKED
- (Placeholder) Verify Launchpad can support release plans/policies: TODO
+ revisit charm store release policy on juju mailing list: DONE
+ (Placeholder) Implement testing plan after discussion: POSTPONED
+ (Placeholder) Implement release plan after discussion: DONE
+ (Placeholder) Verify Launchpad can support release plans/policies: DONE

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[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases

2012-08-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Blueprint changed by Clint Byrum:

Work items changed:
  Work items:
  Author and communicate proposed release plan to juju mailing list: DONE
- (Placeholder) Implement testing plan after discussion: TODO
- (Placeholder) Implement release plan after discussion: TODO
+ revisit charm store release policy on juju mailing list: TODO
+ (Placeholder) Implement testing plan after discussion: BLOCKED
+ (Placeholder) Implement release plan after discussion: BLOCKED
  (Placeholder) Verify Launchpad can support release plans/policies: TODO

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[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases

2012-07-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Blueprint changed by Clint Byrum:

Work items changed:
  Work items:
- Author and communicate proposed release plan to juju mailing list: TODO
+ Author and communicate proposed release plan to juju mailing list: DONE
  (Placeholder) Implement testing plan after discussion: TODO
  (Placeholder) Implement release plan after discussion: TODO
  (Placeholder) Verify Launchpad can support release plans/policies: TODO

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[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases

2012-06-21 Thread Antonio Rosales
Blueprint changed by Antonio Rosales:

Whiteboard changed:
+  Topics:
+ * When do we advance the charms dev focus to each new release of Ubuntu
+ * Should we auto backport and forward port charms, if so, how?
+ 
  Charm Store Policy
  
  - This is a living policy, we will not try to get it perfect, so trying to 
get it perfect is not useful, we need to be agile and revisit our policies on a 
regular basis.
  - Charm Store doesn't freeze
  - I want stability. I want a single place to collaborate around.
  
  backports?
  charm store submissions?
  When to open the next release series?
  
  Where we've been doing:
  
  - Default series is LTS with juju deploy foo
  
  Where do we want to go with it:
  
  - Default series should be LTS with juju deploy foo
  - Search should default to the best possible solution first.
  
  what do we mean by:
   - open - able to push to this series
   - development focus - default series to build against?
  
  dev focus with release (at beta?)
  but insure lts gets as much focus as we can
  
  one approach
  - commit to latest dev focus
  - try to test on previous release
  - try to test further back
  two things to do this:
  - blacklisting for tests
  - better automated testing
  
  also start forward testing as soon as alpha1 is available
  
  perhaps charm browser can show test status for each charm... _per
  release_
  
  security is an aspect of this when considering preventing, allowing, or 
automating back-ports
  maybe don't auto-backport...
  put on the maintainer's shoulders?
  what about use tags?... auto-backport only tagged appropriately?
  (kinda like pockets security, etc etc)
  
  Tags for charms to denote default behavior
  
  perhaps the only valid tags we can use are ones that can be
  automatically tested?
  
  we digress...
  
  we branched too late for precise release
  next time... ?
    - q the dev focus on beta1 day?
    - what to do with backports?
  
  hard problem, we don't have solid answers...
  maybe we just need to make a decision and run with it
  
  follow the distro model, but lag by three months
  adjust on demand
  
  Dev focus to stay on LTS (precise) and push promulgated charms forward
  and test forward
  
  WORK ITEMS?
  
- Please integrate the spec @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BlueprintSpec
- [a.rosales].
+ 
+ 
+ User Stories:
+ * Jesse's Charm is in 12.04 and he would like a clear understanding of how 
his Charm will progress in the Charm store when 12.10 is released.
+ * Andrew has he charm included in 12.10 charm store and would like to know 
what the policy is for that charm being included in 12.04.
+ 
+ 
+ Assumptions:
+ * This is a living document that can be adjusted based of feedback, and 
experience.
+ * Launchpad is technically able to manage Charms outlined in the policy.
+ 
+ Test Plans:
+ * Document and implement policy. Get feedback from users.
+ 
+ Release Note:
+ * Add information on where the The Charm Store Policy can be read.

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[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases

2012-06-21 Thread Antonio Rosales
Blueprint changed by Antonio Rosales:

Definition Status: Drafting = Approved

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[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases

2012-06-01 Thread Antonio Rosales
Blueprint changed by Antonio Rosales:

Whiteboard changed:
  Charm Store Policy
  
  - This is a living policy, we will not try to get it perfect, so trying to 
get it perfect is not useful, we need to be agile and revisit our policies on a 
regular basis.
  - Charm Store doesn't freeze
  - I want stability. I want a single place to collaborate around.
  
  backports?
  charm store submissions?
  When to open the next release series?
  
  Where we've been doing:
  
  - Default series is LTS with juju deploy foo
  
- 
  Where do we want to go with it:
  
  - Default series should be LTS with juju deploy foo
  - Search should default to the best possible solution first.
  
  what do we mean by:
-  - open - able to push to this series
-  - development focus - default series to build against?
+  - open - able to push to this series
+  - development focus - default series to build against?
  
  dev focus with release (at beta?)
  but insure lts gets as much focus as we can
- 
  
  one approach
  - commit to latest dev focus
  - try to test on previous release
  - try to test further back
  two things to do this:
  - blacklisting for tests
  - better automated testing
  
  also start forward testing as soon as alpha1 is available
  
  perhaps charm browser can show test status for each charm... _per
  release_
  
  security is an aspect of this when considering preventing, allowing, or 
automating back-ports
  maybe don't auto-backport...
  put on the maintainer's shoulders?
  what about use tags?... auto-backport only tagged appropriately?
  (kinda like pockets security, etc etc)
  
  Tags for charms to denote default behavior
  
  perhaps the only valid tags we can use are ones that can be
  automatically tested?
  
  we digress...
  
  we branched too late for precise release
  next time... ?
-   - q the dev focus on beta1 day?
-   - what to do with backports?
+   - q the dev focus on beta1 day?
+   - what to do with backports?
  
  hard problem, we don't have solid answers...
  maybe we just need to make a decision and run with it
  
  follow the distro model, but lag by three months
  adjust on demand
  
  Dev focus to stay on LTS (precise) and push promulgated charms forward
  and test forward
  
  WORK ITEMS?
+ 
+ Please integrate the spec @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BlueprintSpec
+ [a.rosales].

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[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases

2012-05-30 Thread Antonio Rosales
Blueprint changed by Antonio Rosales:

Priority: Undefined = High

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[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases

2012-05-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Blueprint changed by Clint Byrum:

Work items set to:
Work items:
Author and communicate proposed release plan to juju mailing list: TODO
(Placeholder) Implement testing plan after discussion: TODO
(Placeholder) Implement release plan after discussion: TODO
(Placeholder) Verify Launchpad can support release plans/policies: TODO

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[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases

2012-05-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Blueprint changed by Clint Byrum:

Definition Status: Discussion = Drafting

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[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases

2012-05-15 Thread Jorge O. Castro
Blueprint changed by Jorge O. Castro:

Whiteboard set to:

Charm Store Policy

- This is a living policy, we will not try to get it perfect, so trying to get 
it perfect is not useful, we need to be agile and revisit our policies on a 
regular basis.
- Charm Store doesn't freeze
- I want stability. I want a single place to collaborate around.

backports?
charm store submissions?
When to open the next release series?

Where we've been doing:

- Default series is LTS with juju deploy foo


Where do we want to go with it:

- Default series should be LTS with juju deploy foo
- Search should default to the best possible solution first.

what do we mean by:
 - open - able to push to this series
 - development focus - default series to build against?

dev focus with release (at beta?)
but insure lts gets as much focus as we can


one approach
- commit to latest dev focus
- try to test on previous release
- try to test further back
two things to do this:
- blacklisting for tests
- better automated testing

also start forward testing as soon as alpha1 is available

perhaps charm browser can show test status for each charm... _per
release_

security is an aspect of this when considering preventing, allowing, or 
automating back-ports
maybe don't auto-backport...
put on the maintainer's shoulders?
what about use tags?... auto-backport only tagged appropriately?
(kinda like pockets security, etc etc)

Tags for charms to denote default behavior

perhaps the only valid tags we can use are ones that can be
automatically tested?

we digress...

we branched too late for precise release
next time... ?
  - q the dev focus on beta1 day?
  - what to do with backports?

hard problem, we don't have solid answers...
maybe we just need to make a decision and run with it

follow the distro model, but lag by three months
adjust on demand

Dev focus to stay on LTS (precise) and push promulgated charms forward
and test forward

WORK ITEMS?

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[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases

2012-05-02 Thread Robbie Williamson
Blueprint changed by Robbie Williamson:

Assignee: (none) = Clint Byrum

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[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases

2012-04-23 Thread Robbie Williamson
Blueprint changed by Robbie Williamson:

Drafter: (none) = Ubuntu Server Team

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2012-04-23 Thread Robbie Williamson
Blueprint changed by Robbie Williamson:

Definition Status: New = Discussion

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