[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases
Blueprint changed by Clint Byrum: Work items changed: Work items: Author and communicate proposed release plan to juju mailing list: DONE - revisit charm store release policy on juju mailing list: TODO - (Placeholder) Implement testing plan after discussion: BLOCKED - (Placeholder) Implement release plan after discussion: BLOCKED - (Placeholder) Verify Launchpad can support release plans/policies: TODO + revisit charm store release policy on juju mailing list: DONE + (Placeholder) Implement testing plan after discussion: POSTPONED + (Placeholder) Implement release plan after discussion: DONE + (Placeholder) Verify Launchpad can support release plans/policies: DONE -- Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases
Blueprint changed by Clint Byrum: Work items changed: Work items: Author and communicate proposed release plan to juju mailing list: DONE - (Placeholder) Implement testing plan after discussion: TODO - (Placeholder) Implement release plan after discussion: TODO + revisit charm store release policy on juju mailing list: TODO + (Placeholder) Implement testing plan after discussion: BLOCKED + (Placeholder) Implement release plan after discussion: BLOCKED (Placeholder) Verify Launchpad can support release plans/policies: TODO -- Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases
Blueprint changed by Clint Byrum: Work items changed: Work items: - Author and communicate proposed release plan to juju mailing list: TODO + Author and communicate proposed release plan to juju mailing list: DONE (Placeholder) Implement testing plan after discussion: TODO (Placeholder) Implement release plan after discussion: TODO (Placeholder) Verify Launchpad can support release plans/policies: TODO -- Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases
Blueprint changed by Antonio Rosales: Whiteboard changed: + Topics: + * When do we advance the charms dev focus to each new release of Ubuntu + * Should we auto backport and forward port charms, if so, how? + Charm Store Policy - This is a living policy, we will not try to get it perfect, so trying to get it perfect is not useful, we need to be agile and revisit our policies on a regular basis. - Charm Store doesn't freeze - I want stability. I want a single place to collaborate around. backports? charm store submissions? When to open the next release series? Where we've been doing: - Default series is LTS with juju deploy foo Where do we want to go with it: - Default series should be LTS with juju deploy foo - Search should default to the best possible solution first. what do we mean by: - open - able to push to this series - development focus - default series to build against? dev focus with release (at beta?) but insure lts gets as much focus as we can one approach - commit to latest dev focus - try to test on previous release - try to test further back two things to do this: - blacklisting for tests - better automated testing also start forward testing as soon as alpha1 is available perhaps charm browser can show test status for each charm... _per release_ security is an aspect of this when considering preventing, allowing, or automating back-ports maybe don't auto-backport... put on the maintainer's shoulders? what about use tags?... auto-backport only tagged appropriately? (kinda like pockets security, etc etc) Tags for charms to denote default behavior perhaps the only valid tags we can use are ones that can be automatically tested? we digress... we branched too late for precise release next time... ? - q the dev focus on beta1 day? - what to do with backports? hard problem, we don't have solid answers... maybe we just need to make a decision and run with it follow the distro model, but lag by three months adjust on demand Dev focus to stay on LTS (precise) and push promulgated charms forward and test forward WORK ITEMS? - Please integrate the spec @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BlueprintSpec - [a.rosales]. + + + User Stories: + * Jesse's Charm is in 12.04 and he would like a clear understanding of how his Charm will progress in the Charm store when 12.10 is released. + * Andrew has he charm included in 12.10 charm store and would like to know what the policy is for that charm being included in 12.04. + + + Assumptions: + * This is a living document that can be adjusted based of feedback, and experience. + * Launchpad is technically able to manage Charms outlined in the policy. + + Test Plans: + * Document and implement policy. Get feedback from users. + + Release Note: + * Add information on where the The Charm Store Policy can be read. -- Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases
Blueprint changed by Antonio Rosales: Definition Status: Drafting = Approved -- Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases
Blueprint changed by Antonio Rosales: Whiteboard changed: Charm Store Policy - This is a living policy, we will not try to get it perfect, so trying to get it perfect is not useful, we need to be agile and revisit our policies on a regular basis. - Charm Store doesn't freeze - I want stability. I want a single place to collaborate around. backports? charm store submissions? When to open the next release series? Where we've been doing: - Default series is LTS with juju deploy foo - Where do we want to go with it: - Default series should be LTS with juju deploy foo - Search should default to the best possible solution first. what do we mean by: - - open - able to push to this series - - development focus - default series to build against? + - open - able to push to this series + - development focus - default series to build against? dev focus with release (at beta?) but insure lts gets as much focus as we can - one approach - commit to latest dev focus - try to test on previous release - try to test further back two things to do this: - blacklisting for tests - better automated testing also start forward testing as soon as alpha1 is available perhaps charm browser can show test status for each charm... _per release_ security is an aspect of this when considering preventing, allowing, or automating back-ports maybe don't auto-backport... put on the maintainer's shoulders? what about use tags?... auto-backport only tagged appropriately? (kinda like pockets security, etc etc) Tags for charms to denote default behavior perhaps the only valid tags we can use are ones that can be automatically tested? we digress... we branched too late for precise release next time... ? - - q the dev focus on beta1 day? - - what to do with backports? + - q the dev focus on beta1 day? + - what to do with backports? hard problem, we don't have solid answers... maybe we just need to make a decision and run with it follow the distro model, but lag by three months adjust on demand Dev focus to stay on LTS (precise) and push promulgated charms forward and test forward WORK ITEMS? + + Please integrate the spec @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BlueprintSpec + [a.rosales]. -- Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases
Blueprint changed by Antonio Rosales: Priority: Undefined = High -- Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases
Blueprint changed by Clint Byrum: Work items set to: Work items: Author and communicate proposed release plan to juju mailing list: TODO (Placeholder) Implement testing plan after discussion: TODO (Placeholder) Implement release plan after discussion: TODO (Placeholder) Verify Launchpad can support release plans/policies: TODO -- Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases
Blueprint changed by Clint Byrum: Definition Status: Discussion = Drafting -- Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases
Blueprint changed by Jorge O. Castro: Whiteboard set to: Charm Store Policy - This is a living policy, we will not try to get it perfect, so trying to get it perfect is not useful, we need to be agile and revisit our policies on a regular basis. - Charm Store doesn't freeze - I want stability. I want a single place to collaborate around. backports? charm store submissions? When to open the next release series? Where we've been doing: - Default series is LTS with juju deploy foo Where do we want to go with it: - Default series should be LTS with juju deploy foo - Search should default to the best possible solution first. what do we mean by: - open - able to push to this series - development focus - default series to build against? dev focus with release (at beta?) but insure lts gets as much focus as we can one approach - commit to latest dev focus - try to test on previous release - try to test further back two things to do this: - blacklisting for tests - better automated testing also start forward testing as soon as alpha1 is available perhaps charm browser can show test status for each charm... _per release_ security is an aspect of this when considering preventing, allowing, or automating back-ports maybe don't auto-backport... put on the maintainer's shoulders? what about use tags?... auto-backport only tagged appropriately? (kinda like pockets security, etc etc) Tags for charms to denote default behavior perhaps the only valid tags we can use are ones that can be automatically tested? we digress... we branched too late for precise release next time... ? - q the dev focus on beta1 day? - what to do with backports? hard problem, we don't have solid answers... maybe we just need to make a decision and run with it follow the distro model, but lag by three months adjust on demand Dev focus to stay on LTS (precise) and push promulgated charms forward and test forward WORK ITEMS? -- Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases
Blueprint changed by Robbie Williamson: Assignee: (none) = Clint Byrum -- Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases
Blueprint changed by Robbie Williamson: Drafter: (none) = Ubuntu Server Team -- Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy] Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases
Blueprint changed by Robbie Williamson: Definition Status: New = Discussion -- Clarifying Charm Store policy around Ubuntu Releases https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs