[Bug 1032322] Re: Swap space allocation for large memory systems needs improvement

2012-09-17 Thread Oliver Grawert
hibernation should only write the actively changed data (diry pages)
from ram to disk, that definitely wont hit 100% of your physical RAM...

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[Bug 1032322] Re: Swap space allocation for large memory systems needs improvement

2012-09-14 Thread Steve Langasek
** Tags added: rls-q-tracking

** Tags removed: rls-q-tracking
** Tags added: rls-q-notfixing

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[Bug 1032322] Re: Swap space allocation for large memory systems needs improvement

2012-09-14 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
** No longer affects: partman-auto (Ubuntu Quantal)

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[Bug 1032322] Re: Swap space allocation for large memory systems needs improvement

2012-08-20 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
As per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance

Wishlist: Missing functionality.
* If it is non-trivial to implement, it should rather be written as a feature 
specification, see FeatureSpecifications.

It is possible to modify the default recipes, but that will harm the Desktop 
installations. [1]
Another possibility is to introduce alternative package partman-auto-server, 
which will replace/divert partman-auto recipes.
Or we could push for recipe flavour support in Debian.

I think it will be useful to have a UDS session as part of foundations
or server track to discuss this, choose what needs modification and how
to implement it. Probably all default recipes need a refresh or a
review to make sure they are all still relevant.

[1] desktop users like hibernate: 42 000+ views on the askubuntu.com
website for the question How to enable hibernate?
http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation-in-12-04

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[Bug 1032322] Re: Swap space allocation for large memory systems needs improvement

2012-08-20 Thread Robbie Williamson
As ex-lead of Foundations and ex-release manager of 10.10, I'm well
aware of bug definitions, thanks.  I also know desktop users like
hibernate, despite the project's decision to disable by default.   I
think the issue is that the decision on how to handle swap was taken
back when Ubuntu was a primarily desktop focused OS, and thus it made
sense to do what most neededtimes have change, so I certainly think
we should have a UDS session on this and will make sure this occurs.

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[Bug 1032322] Re: Swap space allocation for large memory systems needs improvement

2012-08-15 Thread Robbie Williamson
I disagree with the importance being set to Wishlist.

 I would say that default settings (e.g. 100% memory) is for the
default/majority of systems...what systems are you referring to?  If
you mean Desktop, sure...but not Server, where it is customary to have a
LOT of RAM in your configuration.

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[Bug 1032322] Re: Swap space allocation for large memory systems needs improvement

2012-08-15 Thread Steve Langasek
Agreed that this is more than just a wishlist.  AIUI, for cloud compute
nodes this swap requirement can as much as double the local disk space
requirements, which is not an appropriate outcome.  I think we really
need different recipes for server vs. desktop installs, here.

** Changed in: partman-auto (Ubuntu Quantal)
   Importance: Wishlist = Medium

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[Bug 1032322] Re: Swap space allocation for large memory systems needs improvement

2012-08-02 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
** Changed in: partman-auto (Ubuntu Quantal)
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

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[Bug 1032322] Re: Swap space allocation for large memory systems needs improvement

2012-08-02 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
While I would tend to agree, I would say that default settings (e.g.
100% memory) is for the default/majority of systems. If memory on the
machine is 100's of GB or even TBs, custom partman recipes should be
used to tune the machine.

While currently not supported, I would like to see magic factors a keen
to check_mk magic factor for disk space notifications. [0]

[0] table at http://mathias-kettner.de/checkmk_filesystems.html

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