[Bug 1278365] Re: ntpdate target server
Hi, I think this is not a bug und not a sercurity event. But you want to discuss them. So I convert this to a question. Jörg ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Opinion -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1278365 Title: ntpdate target server To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1278365/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1278365] Re: ntpdate target server
The reporter want to discuss about this. ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Status: Opinion = Invalid ** Converted to question: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+question/244169 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1278365 Title: ntpdate target server To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1278365/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1278365] Re: ntpdate target server
I aggree this issue might be appropriate to be discussed at the mailing list. Also for this reason setting the but to incomplete ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1278365 Title: ntpdate target server To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1278365/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1278365] Re: ntpdate target server
Quote: 1. Where are you find a privacy issue? Please read the docu at The issue is based in the name and origin of the target server. Calling ntp.ubuntu cleary tells what kind of OS you are using. This is an increasing issue today 2. The use of ntp.ubuntu.com is IMHO the availability of the ntp - service. Ubuntu can not guarantee the availability of other service providers over the entire term. I did not intent to propose the use of usual public ntp servers. Ubuntu should use a canonical server, but ths server should maybe be used by other clients to to prevent identivication of the System. 3. It is easy to change the ntp server eg via dhcp This does not change that most Systems will still have this issue. Therefore it should be solved by changing the defult behavior. We already point people at the NTP pool: $ cat /etc/ntp.conf ... server 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org server 1.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org server 2.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org server 3.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org ... Yes that is correct, but it still contains a pool of ntp servers only used by Ubuntu correct? The Issue might be rendered irrelevant if there are non Ubuntu systems using the ubuntu ntp pool as well. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1278365 Title: ntpdate target server To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1278365/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1278365] Re: ntpdate target server
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. I'm not sure what the implications would be for making this change, and so am not comfortable with it. There may be issues with depending on third party servers, and also implications for Canonical IS to join a public pool as you suggest. It seems to me that this is up for debate, and thus it is not appropriate to just unilaterally make this change. Thus, as there is currently no clear action that can be taken on this bug, I'm marking it as Incomplete. Please obtain consensus on this proposed change, and then change the bug status to New, Invalid or Won't Fix as appropriate. I suggest that you try and seek consensus on the ubuntu-devel and/or ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing lists. ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1278365 Title: ntpdate target server To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1278365/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1278365] Re: ntpdate target server
Hi, first thanks for submiting your bug. Short answers: 1. Where are you find a privacy issue? Please read the docu at - http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5905.txt - http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5906.txt - http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5907.txt - http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5908.txt 2. The use of ntp.ubuntu.com is IMHO the availability of the ntp - service. Ubuntu can not guarantee the availability of other service providers over the entire term. 3. It is easy to change the ntp server eg via dhcp Therefore I close this bug Thanks Jörg ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1278365 Title: ntpdate target server To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1278365/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1278365] Re: ntpdate target server
We already point people at the NTP pool: $ cat /etc/ntp.conf ... server 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org server 1.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org server 2.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org server 3.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org ... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1278365 Title: ntpdate target server To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1278365/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
