[Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
I RTFMed and created a MIR some time ago and nothing has happened yet. I'm still pushing for this. See bug 776818. The latest suggestion in the MIR report was that we file a bug against kvm. Oh my! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 Title: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/253230/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
I don't have any objection to enabling vde support. However, vde2 is in universe, and qemu-kvm is in main. That means someone needs to do a main inclusion request (MIR) for vde2 before we can depend on it in qemu-kvm. Anyone who would like to see this support enabled can pursue the MIR. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess for details. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 Title: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/253230/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
***Be aware: I don't speak on behalf of VDE team, this is only my personal opinions as kvm user.*** A lot of users need this feature. My projects (see virtualbricks here on lp) are affected by this bug and the only thing I can do is suggest users to install another distribution. I still see nothing moving on Ubuntu side for this bug. AFAIK Natty is still affected. The known workarounds by now are: - Compile kvm yourself and enable libvdeplug support - Switch to a (less blind) distribution. Debian for instance. Sorry, the average user doesn't care about your universe vs. main repository issues and you are not yet able to provide a solution that makes sense. If you can't just promote libvdeplug to main, then place qemu-kvm in universe as well. I don't care, but this is becoming ridiculous. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 Title: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/253230/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
Hi, - Compile kvm yourself and enable libvdeplug support - Switch to a (less blind) distribution. Debian for instance. Sorry, the average user doesn't care about your universe vs. main repository issues and you are not yet able to provide a solution that makes sense. Don't use vde, use openvswitch. Christian -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 Title: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/253230/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
Sorry, but I don't get the point. The openvswitch does not even have half of the features vde provides, it is just a switch! Also, it is not for me, it's for my users I am complaining. My Debian has full kvm+vde support since this has been closed a while ago. I know there are different solutions for the average Joe, but Ubuntu cannot simply ignore the request of thousands of users.The role of a *complete* distribution should be to provide different tools for similar purposes. Qemu and KVM have been supporting libvde2 for years now, and most distro out there come with a fully featured kvm/qemu package. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 Title: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/253230/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
Am 14.07.2011 15:25, schrieb Danielinux: Sorry, but I don't get the point. The openvswitch does not even have half of the features vde provides, it is just a switch! First of all, I am not belonging to Ubuntu. So what they do or not is out of my scope ;-) My suggestion is to use openvswitch. Vde is running in userspace, while openvswitch uses kernel modules and has much better performance. And I guess, you do not really know about the fetures that ovs has (sorry, don't feel attacked, Just my guess). The good thing with ovs is that it has a bridge-replacement module. So for kvm, nothing changes. I have to stop now, because this is a bug tracker and people are getting angry, if it is used as forum or discussion platform. Feel free to contact me personally. Christian -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 Title: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/253230/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
I am replying here because I think this discussion is still adherent to the topic, and also because I don't mind spamming this bug report. It's been open for years and lead to nothing. I am not here to say what is better between ovs, vde or any other similar tool. The super-partes role of a distribution must be to include every (popular) solution and this is the real advantage of free/OS. Ubuntu is just living on a different planet here. For the sack of completeness, I must say vde has a kernelspace version as well, but it is less popular since vde is designed to run on other OSes too. I would be interested to benchmark the two tools anyway. As a matter of fact, I don't see any counterpart for most of the vde tools in ovs, in particular most of the time I have to recreate complex network topologies, integrate emulated channels, use encrypted tunnels, connect local/remote real/virtual machines with maximum flexibility. OVS is a VDE competitor as well as OpenVPN is, from my point of view. VDE is just a broader tool, and for me (and several other people) it is just nice to use the native integration with qemu and kvm, even if workarounds like bridging a kvm tap or even capturing it with vde_pcap are still possible nowadays with the lame official Ubuntu package. My point is that OVS for sure does a great job, most likely from what you say it is even better than VDE for the features they have in common, but VDE is a set made of a larger number of tools for different purposes, that's why I am insisting that much here. Sorry if I was too direct in my previous reply: I am trying to explain why use X instead of Y if Y is not supported in the distro was not an acceptable answer. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 Title: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/253230/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 Title: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
Ubuntu 10.04 When starting kvm or qemu under vdeq vdeq qemu -sda1 qemu-image -m 128 NOTE: vdeq is now DEPRECATED -- both QEMU and KVM have native support for VDE. This binary will be removed soon from the distribution, consider stopping using it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 Title: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
Hi, Dustin, could you upload a maverick build with updated version ? Regards, Étienne -- qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
Hi, Actually, would it be possible to ship a qemu-kvm-vde package in universe ? Regards, Étienne -- qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
** Changed in: vde2 (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium = Wishlist ** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) Importance: High = Wishlist -- qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
** Summary changed: - Should it Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev? + qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) ** Package changed: kvm (Ubuntu) = qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) ** Also affects: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Lucid) Importance: High Status: Won't Fix ** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) Status: Won't Fix = Triaged -- qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
** Also affects: vde2 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: vde2 (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: vde2 (Ubuntu Lucid) Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Changed in: vde2 (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix -- qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
Marking wont-fix against Lucid, as we can't very well go about MIR'ing and enabling VDE in qemu-kvm for Lucid. However, we should perhaps consider this for Lucid+1, so I've open a task against both qemu-kvm and vde2 for Lucid+1, and triaged it. Someone will need to write an MIR for this. I suggest that someone who actually has both a vested interest in VDE, as well as experience using it (neither of which I have), write the MIR, per: * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess Thanks, :-Dustin -- qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
FYI... Minimally supported qemu-kvm packages with VDE support are in: * https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-virt/+archive/vde -- qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 253230] Re: qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working)
Thanks Dustin! Works like a charm for me. kvm even seems to be faster than before. FYI I am using vde2 for four production server since intrepid ibex. For my network knowledge (I never managed to understand tap/tun) it's easy to understand (everyone knows what a switch is) and works stable and flawless. Just to clarify this, kvm vde2 is not officially supported in karmic? But I can just use another repo to add this? Or did I actually do a system upgrade to the next version (probably lucid)? -- qemu-kvm should Build-Depends on libvdeplug2-dev (KVM vde2 support not working) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/253230 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
