[Bug 581718] Re: dovecot upgrade purposely breaks working configuration

2010-05-19 Thread Ante Karamatić
1) it was working by pure luck; it was never suposed to work
2) actually, there is; look at comment #6
3) for a reason - security
4) ??

It's not ignoring the issue. It's just that you are using 'mailbox'
path, which starts with 'maildir:' as a home variable. That's just
wrong, weather dovecot works or not. Your home isn't
'maildir:/home/user'. It's '/home/user'.

If you think that is wrong and that 'home' should be
'maildir:/home/user', bring this to upstream cause Ubuntu will not
diverge on this one. It's just pointless. MDS doesn't set 'home'
attribute wrong. Look at it in your LDAP - I'm sure it's just
'/home/something'. Problem is that you linked 'mailbox' LDAP attribute
with 'home' variable in dovecot in dovecot-ldap.conf.

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[Bug 581718] Re: dovecot upgrade purposely breaks working configuration

2010-05-18 Thread Lionel Dricot
I don't set the home field manually. It's set by Mandriva Directory
Server. I think that the error come from that mail and home are, on my
config, un

I find it very wrong to consider that as a user fault because :

1) it was working previously and al least one existing configuration
(mine) was working fine with it.

2) there's no rule that say that it's bad to return maildir:. It's just
lazyness from the programmer : consider it user fault instead of
correcting it.

3) the software understand perfectly what the user want without any
possible confusion and decides arbitrarly to give an error

4) the error message is not related to that issue.


I understand perfectly how this bug can be considered as user fault, not a 
bug but IMHO just putting the head in the sand. 


Well, in the end, I agree that it's a broader consideration (and less urgent 
;-) )

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[Bug 581718] Re: dovecot upgrade purposely breaks working configuration

2010-05-17 Thread Lionel Dricot
in my config, I've the location configured as :

mail_location = maildir:/home/mail/%u

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[Bug 581718] Re: dovecot upgrade purposely breaks working configuration

2010-05-17 Thread Lionel Dricot
chuck : the link is *not* a patch to solve the issue. The link is a
patch that introduced the issue itself.

The question is : what should people do if they have this error ? And
why was this patch introduced ?

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[Bug 581718] Re: dovecot upgrade purposely breaks working configuration

2010-05-17 Thread Chuck Short
Thanks ill see if I can get this backported for lucid.

chuck

** Changed in: dovecot (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: dovecot (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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Re: [Bug 581718] Re: dovecot upgrade purposely breaks working configuration

2010-05-17 Thread Ante Karamatić
On 17.05.2010 15:15, Lionel Dricot wrote:

 mail_location = maildir:/home/mail/%u

Looking at the docs:

Upgrading Dovecot v1.1 to v1.2
==

  * Relative home directory paths are giving errors now. They were never
supported, but earlier they just didn't usually cause problems.
 * If you were using e.g. 'mail_location = maildir:/var/mail/%h', just
   change it to 'mail_location = maildir:%h' and add '/var/mail/' 
prefix to
   home dirs.
 * To get absolute home dir from relative path in LDAP, use 
something like:
   'user_attrs = .., homeDirectory=home=/var/mail/%$'


So, your mail_location looks alright. Do you use %h anywhere?

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[Bug 581718] Re: dovecot upgrade purposely breaks working configuration

2010-05-17 Thread Ante Karamatić
On 17.05.2010 15:12, Lionel Dricot wrote:

 Upgrading a working dovecot from karmic to lucid.

http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailLocation

Use only absolute paths. Even if relative paths would appear to work, 
they might just as well break some day.

Unless we find that you are using only absolute paths, and dovecot is 
complaining about relative paths, this is not a bug.

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[Bug 581718] Re: dovecot upgrade purposely breaks working configuration

2010-05-17 Thread Lionel Dricot
I'm using absolute path.

The problem is that the path was given by LDAP with :

user_attrs = mailbox=home (this is what is recommended in the
documentation)

It seems that, for whatever reason this string is passed directly to the
code and used as home. But because it starts with maildir:, it fails
the test first character is /.

The workaround so far was to disable mailbox from ldap and use directly
mail_location = maildir:/home/mail/%u


I've seen a similar symptom on dovecot mailing list and the dev reply something 
like this is wrong, remove the maildir:. It's really a pitty because a lot of 
usecases are now broken because of a poor implementation of one very specific 
test. The error message is also not really informative.

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[Bug 581718] Re: dovecot upgrade purposely breaks working configuration

2010-05-17 Thread Ante Karamatić
home isn't a mail_location path. It's home path. In your ldap mailbox
should look like this:

/home/mail/x...@xyz.com

If it looks like:

maildir:/home/mail/x...@xyz.com

then you are using that wrong.

http://wiki.dovecot.org/UserDatabase/ExtraFields - those are extra
fields that are supported.

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[Bug 581718] Re: dovecot upgrade purposely breaks working configuration

2010-05-17 Thread Ante Karamatić
Marking bug as invalid since it shouldn't have wored anyway.

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   Status: Incomplete = Invalid

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