[Bug 607039] Re: NFS4 automount using replicated servers doesn't work

2012-01-25 Thread Stefan Bader
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 662711 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/662711

This is actually fixed in Precise by a change to nfs-utils for bug
#662711. For that reason I'll mark the bug report here as a duplicate.

** Changed in: module-init-tools (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Invalid

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 662711
   idmap should be started by default because mount.nfs now negotiates NFSv4 
before NFSv3

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[Bug 607039] Re: NFS4 automount using replicated servers doesn't work

2011-12-13 Thread Serge Hallyn
** Also affects: module-init-tools (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Description changed:

+ module-init-tools in debian has 'alias nfs4 nfs' in
+ /etc/modprobe.d/aliases.conf.  ubuntu does not have that file or that
+ line.  We need it because nfs4.ko no longer exists, but 'mount -t nfs4'
+ tries to load it.
+ 
  Binary package hint: autofs5
  
  [ updated description: mount -t nfs4 server:/mnt /mnt fails through
  oneiric with -ENODEV from mount.nfs4 ]
  
  In lucid, using autofs5 version 5.0.4-3.1ubuntu5, we are having trouble
  using failover with NFS.  Autofs allows you to specify multiple hosts
  with weighting in its configuration files and will fall back to a
  secondary host if the first host is not available at mount time.
  However, currently on our systems, the mount fails completely.  This
  functionality does work with our RHEL 5 hosts (which use autofs 5.0.1).
  Automounting from a single host does work, but when we supply multiple
  hosts, an strace shows that it's trying to connect to the IP address
  '0.0.0.0', port 0, rather than any of the hosts we specify.
  
  I have attached the full strace output, our /etc/auto.master file, and
  the relevant file from /etc/autofs.d including the multiple hosts.

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[Bug 607039] Re: NFS4 automount using replicated servers doesn't work

2011-11-30 Thread Stefan Bader
I carefully went through the various man pages again and found that
despite me missing those before, there are indications:

man nfs
...
The  fstype  field  contains  nfs.   Use  of  the  nfs4  fstype  in 
/etc/fstab is deprecated.
...
To mount using NFS version 4, use either the nfs file system type, with the 
nfsvers=4 mount option, or the nfs4 file system type.

man mount.nfs4
...
Under Linux 2.6.32 and later kernel versions, mount.nfs can  mount  all NFS  
file  system  versions.   Under  earlier  Linux  kernel  versions, mount.nfs4 
must be used for mounting NFSv4 file systems while mount.nfs must be used for 
NFSv3 and v2.

The man page for mount mentions nfs4 but says nothing specific about
nfs4 but mentions it. And the examples in nfs(5) rather show the nfs4
fstype approach. So it is a bit mixed.  My feeling would be that the nfs
related man pages may be a bit more actively pushing people to drop nfs4
as the fstype. But probably add an alias definition in modprobe.d (if
that is allowed by policy).

Steve, this sounds to me like we should open a related debian bug along.
Or would we make changes in our package an then ask for things to be
picked up?

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[Bug 607039] Re: NFS4 automount using replicated servers doesn't work

2011-11-29 Thread Stefan Bader
So as expected upstream was not too exited about a change to the kernel
module. In fact the answer was suggesting that using the fstype nfs4 is
rather deprecated. And I was observing that even using mount -tnfs ...
the resulting mount options which could be observed in cat
/proc/mounts were the same as using nfs4. Unfortunately the man pages
for mount (and probably other too) do not reflect this at all.

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[Bug 607039] Re: NFS4 automount using replicated servers doesn't work

2011-11-28 Thread Stefan Bader
I am not sure whether mount.nfs4 ever did load the right module. At least it 
does not do it back to Lucid and I have not checked farther back. It may be 
that nfs once was built in and thus avoided all the issues. The modprobe call 
happens in mount. Which takes the fstype as the module to load. So I think the 
way forward is either /etc/modprobe.d alias definition or having the module 
itself declare that alias. I'll try to suggest the latter but I am not sure how 
acceptable that is upstream.
The alias is simpler, but question would be which package this should go into.

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[Bug 607039] Re: NFS4 automount using replicated servers doesn't work

2011-11-24 Thread Stefan Bader
@Steve, this seems actually already to be addressed. Unfortunately in a
way that is easy to get wrong. The nfs module would for example be
autoloaded when the idmapd gets started. And the /etc/default/nfs-common
comments clearly say it should be needed for v4. However one seems to be
able to get a mount done without it being set to yes. (Probably running
into other issues later). It would be good if there would be a way to
get those things right in a simpler way. But I cannot think of a good
one right now. Should mount.nfs4 start required daemons? But then that
may miss sensible configuration...

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[Bug 607039] Re: NFS4 automount using replicated servers doesn't work

2011-11-24 Thread Steve Langasek
mount.ntfs4 certainly shouldn't start any daemons, but I would expect it
to autoload the nfs4 module the same way it previously autoloaded the
nfs module.

BTW, for 12.04 we always start idmapd automatically; but if using
autofs, it's still not guaranteed that idmapd will have started before
autofs starts.

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[Bug 607039] Re: NFS4 automount using replicated servers doesn't work

2011-11-23 Thread Stefan Bader
Doh! I think I found out what it going on... The problem can be, as it
has been said before, reduced to attempting a NFS mount with:

mount -tnfs4 server:path mntpt

which will fail with a completely useless message of no such device. It
was also said that -tnfs does work. Now the interesting thing is that
*after* one successful run with -tnfs, the -tnfs4 does *also* work. I
must admit it took me a while to think of module loading. But that was
the solution in my tests. Apparently a mount -tnfs automatically loads
the nfs module, which does not work for -tnfs4 (I guess because there is
some glue missing to tell the system that the nfs module is the correct
one for both).

Could those affected try a quick work-around, please? Create a new file name 
/etc/modprobe.d/nfs4.conf with the following
content:

alias nfs4 nfs

In theory this should make sure the module gets autoloaded and the nfs4
autofs setup should be working...

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Re: [Bug 607039] Re: NFS4 automount using replicated servers doesn't work

2011-11-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 01:48:24PM -, Stefan Bader wrote:
 Doh! I think I found out what it going on... The problem can be, as it
 has been said before, reduced to attempting a NFS mount with:

 mount -tnfs4 server:path mntpt

 which will fail with a completely useless message of no such device. It
 was also said that -tnfs does work. Now the interesting thing is that
 *after* one successful run with -tnfs, the -tnfs4 does *also* work.

Note that this is upstream bug #117957, which has been reported some time
ago.

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