[Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2016-03-23 Thread Timo Aaltonen
this is fixed at least in 16.04, from
/lib/systemd/system/krb5-kdc.service.d/slapd-before-kdc.conf:

After=slapd.service

** Changed in: krb5 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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Re: [Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2011-08-20 Thread Fede
Thanks you very much for the help! I've added sleep 1 at the end of the
slapd init script and now everything starts fine.

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Re: [Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2011-08-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of Wed Aug 17 10:56:55 -0700 2011:
 Excerpts from Ryan Tandy's message of Wed Aug 17 17:29:36 UTC 2011:
  I have noticed that the slapd init script terminates before slapd is
  actually ready to accept connections, and I think that is the problem
  you're having too.  In my scripts that stop/start slapd I always have to
  insert a 'sleep 1' before I can do any LDAP operations.  I've also
  noticed that on a sufficiently fast machine the time between S17slapd
  and S18krb5-kdc is short enough that the KDC can fail to start.  I
  worked around it by adding 'invoke-rc.d krb5-kdc start' in /etc/rc.local
  but I'm sure a better solution is possible.
 
 Looking through slapd's code, it does in fact fork and exit before
 activating its listener threads. The detach code needs to actually wait
 for some message from the children that the listeners have started,
 or the parent should do the listening before forking.
 
 I filed bug #828237 to track this. Thanks for the tip Ryan!

FYI, bug 828237 is actually fixed in Oneiric, I didn't realize that
there was a patch to do just that included.

Not sure if its SRU'able to lucid, but the workaround of sleeping for
1 second after it starts is probably the best workaround at present.

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[Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2011-08-18 Thread Ryan Tandy
Thanks Clint for following up on that.  I added the service-operational-
before-detach patch from oneiric to my slapd and from initial testing it
looks like it works as advertised.  With that change (and the init
scripts re-ordered) my kdc is now starting properly even on fast
machines.

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[Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2011-08-17 Thread Fede
I believe that the proposed solution is not enough.

$ ls -l rc2.d/
total 12
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 2011-08-17 16:18 ./
drwxr-xr-x 102 root root 4096 2011-08-17 15:56 ../
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  677 2011-06-09 21:46 README
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   15 2011-08-09 18:26 S15bind9 - ../init.d/bind9*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   15 2011-08-17 16:18 S17slapd - ../init.d/slapd*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   27 2011-08-14 14:47 S18krb5-admin-server - 
../init.d/krb5-admin-server*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   18 2011-08-14 14:47 S18krb5-kdc - 
../init.d/krb5-kdc*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   21 2011-08-14 17:03 S20libnss-ldap - 
../init.d/libnss-ldap*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   27 2011-08-09 21:42 S20nfs-kernel-server - 
../init.d/nfs-kernel-server*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   17 2011-08-11 20:24 S20postfix - ../init.d/postfix*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   18 2011-08-11 21:30 S21quotarpc - 
../init.d/quotarpc*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 2011-08-09 21:36 S23ntp - ../init.d/ntp*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   18 2011-08-11 21:28 S50netatalk - 
../init.d/netatalk*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   15 2011-08-09 18:26 S50rsync - ../init.d/rsync*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   19 2011-08-09 18:26 S70dns-clean - 
../init.d/dns-clean*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   18 2011-08-09 18:26 S70pppd-dns - 
../init.d/pppd-dns*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   21 2011-08-09 18:27 S99grub-common - 
../init.d/grub-common*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   18 2011-08-09 18:16 S99ondemand - 
../init.d/ondemand*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   18 2011-08-09 18:16 S99rc.local - 
../init.d/rc.local*

$ cat /var/log/daemon.log
...
Aug 17 15:56:04 xxx named[944]: running
Aug 17 15:56:05 xxx kadmind[971]: Can't contact LDAP server while initializing, 
aborting
Aug 17 15:56:05 xxx krb5kdc[974]: Can't contact LDAP server - while 
initializing database for realm XXX.XXX
...

Could this be related to the fact that when the KDC complains and stops
the server has not yet received its (static) IP address from the DHCP
server? In any case adding a line in /etc/hosts does not help.

My system runs 10.04

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Re: [Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2011-08-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fede's message of Wed Aug 17 15:27:24 UTC 2011:
 I believe that the proposed solution is not enough.
 
 $ ls -l rc2.d/
 total 12
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 2011-08-17 16:18 ./
 drwxr-xr-x 102 root root 4096 2011-08-17 15:56 ../
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root  677 2011-06-09 21:46 README
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   15 2011-08-09 18:26 S15bind9 - ../init.d/bind9*
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   15 2011-08-17 16:18 S17slapd - ../init.d/slapd*
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   27 2011-08-14 14:47 S18krb5-admin-server - 
 ../init.d/krb5-admin-server*
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   18 2011-08-14 14:47 S18krb5-kdc - 
 ../init.d/krb5-kdc*
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   21 2011-08-14 17:03 S20libnss-ldap - 
 ../init.d/libnss-ldap*
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   27 2011-08-09 21:42 S20nfs-kernel-server - 
 ../init.d/nfs-kernel-server*
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   17 2011-08-11 20:24 S20postfix - 
 ../init.d/postfix*
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   18 2011-08-11 21:30 S21quotarpc - 
 ../init.d/quotarpc*
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 2011-08-09 21:36 S23ntp - ../init.d/ntp*
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   18 2011-08-11 21:28 S50netatalk - 
 ../init.d/netatalk*
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   15 2011-08-09 18:26 S50rsync - ../init.d/rsync*
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   19 2011-08-09 18:26 S70dns-clean - 
 ../init.d/dns-clean*
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   18 2011-08-09 18:26 S70pppd-dns - 
 ../init.d/pppd-dns*
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   21 2011-08-09 18:27 S99grub-common - 
 ../init.d/grub-common*
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   18 2011-08-09 18:16 S99ondemand - 
 ../init.d/ondemand*
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   18 2011-08-09 18:16 S99rc.local - 
 ../init.d/rc.local*
 
 $ cat /var/log/daemon.log
 ...
 Aug 17 15:56:04 xxx named[944]: running
 Aug 17 15:56:05 xxx kadmind[971]: Can't contact LDAP server while 
 initializing, aborting
 Aug 17 15:56:05 xxx krb5kdc[974]: Can't contact LDAP server - while 
 initializing database for realm XXX.XXX
 ...
 
 Could this be related to the fact that when the KDC complains and stops
 the server has not yet received its (static) IP address from the DHCP
 server? In any case adding a line in /etc/hosts does not help.
 

Its entirely possible, especially if you've specified the hostname of
the server and it is bound to that specific IP.

Oneiric includes a fix that delays runlevel 2 until all interfaces in
/etc/network/interfaces are available. I'm not sure if we'll be able to
push that into 10.04, but its at least worth looking into as the solution
is fairly simple, just adding a few new events and jobs.

See bug #580319 for more info on that.

Anyway, this sounds like that bug.. which affects pretty much all services
that start on runlevel 2 and might be addressed by a specific IP.

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[Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2011-08-17 Thread Ryan Tandy
I have noticed that the slapd init script terminates before slapd is
actually ready to accept connections, and I think that is the problem
you're having too.  In my scripts that stop/start slapd I always have to
insert a 'sleep 1' before I can do any LDAP operations.  I've also
noticed that on a sufficiently fast machine the time between S17slapd
and S18krb5-kdc is short enough that the KDC can fail to start.  I
worked around it by adding 'invoke-rc.d krb5-kdc start' in /etc/rc.local
but I'm sure a better solution is possible.

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Re: [Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2011-08-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ryan Tandy's message of Wed Aug 17 17:29:36 UTC 2011:
 I have noticed that the slapd init script terminates before slapd is
 actually ready to accept connections, and I think that is the problem
 you're having too.  In my scripts that stop/start slapd I always have to
 insert a 'sleep 1' before I can do any LDAP operations.  I've also
 noticed that on a sufficiently fast machine the time between S17slapd
 and S18krb5-kdc is short enough that the KDC can fail to start.  I
 worked around it by adding 'invoke-rc.d krb5-kdc start' in /etc/rc.local
 but I'm sure a better solution is possible.

Looking through slapd's code, it does in fact fork and exit before
activating its listener threads. The detach code needs to actually wait
for some message from the children that the listeners have started,
or the parent should do the listening before forking.

I filed bug #828237 to track this. Thanks for the tip Ryan!

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[Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2011-02-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Ok, so now I'm confused. This should have been fixed in Debian, as Sam
Hartman shows us, here:

krb5 (1.8.1+dfsg-3) unstable; urgency=high

  * CVE-2010-1321 GSS-API accept sec context null pointer deref, Closes:
#582261
  * Force use of bash for build, Closes: #581473
  * Start slapd before krb5 when krb5-kdc-ldap installed, Closes:
#582122


 -- Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org  Wed, 19 May 2010 16:37:36 -0400

Testing this on natty by installing krb5-kdc-ldap, and then slapd:

# ls -l /etc/rc2.d
total 4
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 677 Nov  1 09:36 README
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  18 Feb  4 07:55 S18krb5-kdc - ../init.d/krb5-kdc
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  15 Feb  4 07:56 S19slapd - ../init.d/slapd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  18 Nov  2 09:51 S99ondemand - ../init.d/ondemand
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  18 Nov  2 09:51 S99rc.local - ../init.d/rc.local

The problem is that the override isn't being respected, because it
relies on insserv being called. insserv isn't called, because on Ubuntu
systems, legacy-bootordering is the norm, so this override will not help
unfortunately. If I manually run 'insserv' as root, this does reorder
things:

# ls -l /etc/rc2.d
total 4
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 677 Nov  1 09:36 README
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  15 Feb  4 08:04 S01slapd - ../init.d/slapd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  18 Feb  4 08:04 S02krb5-kdc - ../init.d/krb5-kdc
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  18 Feb  4 08:04 S03ondemand - ../init.d/ondemand
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  18 Feb  4 08:04 S03rc.local - ../init.d/rc.local

So, this is really caused by Ubuntu's sysv-rc disabling insserv. Since
Ubuntu has chosen a different boot, this is just going to be something
we have to maintain delta for I think.

In this case I think the right fix for Ubuntu is going to be to add this to 
krb5-kdc-slapd's postinst:
update-rc.d slapd remove
update-rc.d slapd start 17 2 3 4 5 . stop 19 0 1 6 .

Either way, I have to agree that I was wrong, and this does have a
solution and so can be set to Confirmed. I'll also raise the importance
to Low, because the default config does not work in what would probably
be a very common use case (kdc on the same box as ldap).

The workaround, btw, is to run the two update-rc.d commands above, or
'insserv'.

** CVE added: http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-
bin/cvename.cgi?name=2010-1321

** Changed in: krb5 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Opinion = Confirmed

** Changed in: krb5 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Wishlist = Low

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Re: [Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2011-02-04 Thread Sam Hartman
I'm not against including a patch in the Debian package to reduce Ubuntu
deltas.  I want to make sure that things continue to work if inserv is
used as that's where Debian is going.  If we can preserve that, I think
that having a patch mostly intended for Ubuntu is fine.

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[Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2011-01-26 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Russ Allbery wrote on 2010-09-30: 
 It's definitely a problem for the KDC to start after the LDAP
 server if the LDAP server is using Kerberos for authentication,
 which is probably still a more common configuration than
 putting the KDC data in LDAP.

I am putting Kerberos Data into an LDAP-Server since this is possible.
Kerberos depends on LDAP, but it doesn't mater if kerberos isn't up and
running --- you can assume having both servers on one and the same
system in such cases and ldap configured to use sockets or local
interfaces only communication with kdc or kadmin. If not you'll have a
biddy and egg problem. But it is absolutely not usefull to have slapd
start *AFTER* krb5-kdc: it can't get any neccessary data this way.

 Unfortunately, both init script orderings break different things
 for different people. What really needs to happen is that one
 or the other (or preferrably both) services need to be robust
 against the other service not yet being initialized.

LDAP ist robust against kerberos not running at the moment slapd starts.
Kerberos can't be robust about that. No way. If it stores data in LDAP
it has to have access to the server.

At the moment this breaks the whole thing.

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[Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2011-01-26 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Clint Byrum:
This is not an opinion. It is a necessity if you like to have stable running 
systems. At the moment kdc will not run after a reboot. I suppose this being an 
error, not an opinion.
If Ubuntu wants parts of the server market, than change this! A simple reboot 
should not break a default setup.

Sam Hartman pointed out, Debian changed it --- just because of this
reason.

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Re: [Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2011-01-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Schweikle 652...@bugs.launchpad.net writes:

 LDAP ist robust against kerberos not running at the moment slapd
starts.

I'm not sure that this is the case for an LDAP replica that uses GSS-API
to authenticate to the master, since I believe the very first thing that
slapd does is attempt the authentication to the master.

If this is not the case, or if slapd handles this cleanly (by sleeping and
retrying until it can get a connection without any other negative
consequences), then it's indeed robust here and slapd can start first.
But someone should verify that rather than assuming, since I know we've
had trouble with it in the past.

 Kerberos can't be robust about that. No way. If it stores data in LDAP
 it has to have access to the server.

It can.  All it has to do is sleep if it can't open an LDAP connection for
a few seconds and then try again.

There's a tradeoff, of course, in that you lose error reporting from the
init script if it currently attempts to open the LDAP connection before
backgrounding itself.  I'm not sure if that's the case or not.  If it
already doesn't open the LDAP connection until after it's backgrounded,
you lose nothing by adding some pauses and repeated attempts to contact
the LDAP server.

Ideally, they should both be robust against the other not being up yet.

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Re: [Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2010-10-02 Thread Sam Hartman
In Debian unstable installing krb5-kdxc-ldap automatically changes the
order. This could be backported.

Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote:

Since both services may depend on the other in ways that will break, we
can only support a default configuration.

The server guide currently does not have kerberos depending on LDAP, nor
does it suggest LDAP depend on kerberos.

So, the current configuration is probably sufficient, and dependencies
can be adjusted for specific configurations as necessary.

Setting importance to wishlist, as this is ultimately a feature request
not a bug.

Marking Opinion, as there is no clear reason to reject or accept this
feature request.

** Changed in: krb5 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

** Changed in: krb5 (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2010-10-01 Thread Clint Byrum
Since both services may depend on the other in ways that will break, we
can only support a default configuration.

The server guide currently does not have kerberos depending on LDAP, nor
does it suggest LDAP depend on kerberos.

So, the current configuration is probably sufficient, and dependencies
can be adjusted for specific configurations as necessary.

Setting importance to wishlist, as this is ultimately a feature request
not a bug.

Marking Opinion, as there is no clear reason to reject or accept this
feature request.

** Changed in: krb5 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

** Changed in: krb5 (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Opinion

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[Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2010-09-30 Thread infestator
Forgot to say that this is Ubuntu 10.04.

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[Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2010-09-30 Thread infestator
Russ, you are right.

But in what case does LDAP performs an authentication using Kerberos on local 
machine? I cannot imagine what for can LDAP use local kerberos authentication.
I am not very skilled in all these and my questions may be a little bit stupid 
:-[ I just can suppose that Kerberos authentication may be used for 
authenticating replication servers, but there is not any word about Kerberos in 
LDAP manual. The SSL/TLS authentication is used instead.

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Re: [Bug 652433] Re: Init script dependency error: krb5-kdc starts before slapd

2010-09-30 Thread Russ Allbery
infestator bet...@gmail.com writes:

 Russ, you are right.

 But in what case does LDAP performs an authentication using Kerberos on
 local machine? I cannot imagine what for can LDAP use local kerberos
 authentication.

The case that's most often cited is if you're co-locating infrastructure
on single machines, in which case you may have an LDAP replica and a KDC
on the same host.  The LDAP replica then needs to do a GSSAPI
authentication to the master for replication, which requires access to the
KDC.

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