[Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2014-05-14 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
[Expired for indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) because there has been no
activity for 60 days.]

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[Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2014-05-14 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
[Expired for ntp (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity for 60
days.]

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[Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2014-03-15 Thread Charles Kerr
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
Ubuntu better. The issue that you reported is one that should be
reproducible with the live environment of the Desktop ISO of the
development release - Trusty Tahr. It would help us greatly if you could
test with it so we can work on getting it fixed in the next release of
Ubuntu. You can find out more about the development release at
http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/ . Thanks again and we appreciate your
help.

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Re: [Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2014-03-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Hi Charles. I'm a core dev and I run Trusty on my laptop. Still
affected as of 2 months ago when I last traveled with that laptop. I
will test again with the latest software and post the results soon.

Excerpts from Charles Kerr's message of 2014-03-15 19:29:50 UTC:
 Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
 Ubuntu better. The issue that you reported is one that should be
 reproducible with the live environment of the Desktop ISO of the
 development release - Trusty Tahr. It would help us greatly if you could
 test with it so we can work on getting it fixed in the next release of
 Ubuntu. You can find out more about the development release at
 http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/ . Thanks again and we appreciate your
 help.
 
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Status: Confirmed = Incomplete
 
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 Title:
   Time is not syncronized with NTP-server
 
 Status in “indicator-datetime” package in Ubuntu:
   Incomplete
 Status in “ntp” package in Ubuntu:
   Incomplete
 
 Bug description:
   11.4
   after installation there doesn't seems to be configured any communication 
 with the nets NTP-servers, as the time isn't set correctly.
   using ntpdate, its possible to get the time set correctly, but this only 
 last until next boot.
   1) Default ought to be, that there is communication with NTP-server
   (when setting location to Denmark the NTP-server(s) ought be set to 
 dk.pool.ntp.org)
   2) When explicitly using ntpdate, it ought to result in a lasting 
 configuration of the NTP-client.
 
   ProblemType: Bug
   DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04
   Package: gnome-system-monitor 2.28.2-0ubuntu1
   ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2
   Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic i686
   Architecture: i386
   Date: Wed May 11 12:53:34 2011
   ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/gnome-system-monitor
   ProcEnviron:
LANGUAGE=en_US:en
LANG=en_DK.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
SHELL=/bin/bash
   SourcePackage: gnome-system-monitor
   UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
 
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[Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2012-08-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Craig, or anyone else affected, can you perhaps include the output of
this command:

$ ntpq -pn -c assoc
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==
+72.26.198.240   64.90.182.55 2 u  315 1024  377   90.962   -3.585   5.345
-64.73.32.13418.26.4.105  2 u  825 1024  377   81.566   -6.407   2.644
*69.64.72.238192.12.19.20 2 u  743 1024  375   27.6850.565   9.724
-69.167.160.102  204.9.54.119 2 u  833 1024  177   91.412   -9.949   4.866
+91.189.94.4 193.79.237.142 u  724 1024  377  159.1552.092   7.502

ind assid status  conf reach auth condition  last_event cnt
===
  1  5876  941a   yes   yes  none candidatesys_peer  1
  2  5877  931a   yes   yes  none   outlyersys_peer  1
  3  5878  961a   yes   yes  none  sys.peersys_peer  1
  4  5879  931a   yes   yes  none   outlyersys_peer  1
  5  5880  9424   yes   yes  none candidate   reachable  2

Thanks!

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[Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2012-03-05 Thread Craig Weber
I'm having the same problem in 11.10; my clock is almost always 9 or 10
minutes fast. For me, it's been happening since I relocated from the
midwest (U.S.) to France. When I run ntpdate, I get the following:

someone@someone-UBook:~$ ntpdate
 5 Mar 09:35:46 ntpdate[14926]: no servers can be used, exiting

Occasionally, when I would manually change a setting with the time
applet on the unity bar (any setting, not necessarily the time), it
would update but be off at the next boot if not sooner. Can I do
anything to help?

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[Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2011-07-15 Thread C de-Avillez
@brawehear: no, it should not. The ntp.drift is a (continuously updated)
measure of how much your system's hardware clock deviates from time
sources (the NTP servers, or a real precise clock attached to the
machine) -- in other words, how much your hardware clock _drifts_ from
reliable clock sources. The calculated value is used to adjust the clock
when no time servers can be contacted.

NTP server addresses are stored in /etc/ntp.conf.

@gerti:

1. I shouldn't need the NTP-daemon, as I don't want to run a NTP-
service for other machines om my network. Well, this is just *one*
reason to run NTP (as opposed to ntpdate only). The other -- and, in my
view, much more important -- reason is to keep your machine as much as
possible time-synchronised.

If you just use ntpdate your clock will (slowly, but surely) drift from
the correct time. How much and how fast depends on a lot of factors,
including how long since last sync, thermal variances on the computer,
quality of the computer hardware clock source, etc. Additionally, every
time you manually (or via cron) run ntpdate to adjust your time you will
get  a sudden jump in clock time -- which may cause problems to other
programmes.

2. I reported, that my completely raw (i.e. non-update) 11.4 Ubuntu did
not adjust the clock correctly. We have released updates to NTP on
11.04. You *need* to apply them for us to be able to verify your issue.
Neither Clint, nor I, can reproduce it on up-to-date 11.04.

Unless you tell us more details (including what did not work, with
output of commands, there is not much we can do.

Dropping the NTP task back to incomplete -- not enough data to confirm.

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[Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2011-06-03 Thread braweheart
The content of my /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift is

-12.161

shouldn't it be som adresses to ntp servers instead?

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[Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2011-05-23 Thread Guillem Hernandez Sola
Yesterday (2011/05/22), I installed ubuntu 11.04 32 bits and this
problem appears during the installation.

** Changed in: indicator-datetime (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2011-05-23 Thread gerti
@Clint,
yes, I know about the problem, if the system-clock is too way off. But
that was not the case on my machine - at most a minute or so.
And no, while installing and doing the first boots of the new 11.4,
there were no connection problems.
And yes, unless somebody rewrote the code for the NTP-daemon, which have
worked well for so many years, its the setup-interface, that needs a
little rework (amongst other modules ?)

BTW, what really irks me is, that when I run Windows 7 (have multi-boot
with Grub), which I do every fortnight to keep up with the security- and
important updates - takes 2 - 5 hours every time - the clock is spot on,
right from the GUI shows up (!)

regards gerti

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Re: [Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2011-05-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from gerti's message of Mon May 23 13:22:53 UTC 2011:
 @Clint,
 yes, I know about the problem, if the system-clock is too way off. But
 that was not the case on my machine - at most a minute or so.
 And no, while installing and doing the first boots of the new 11.4,
 there were no connection problems.
 And yes, unless somebody rewrote the code for the NTP-daemon, which have
 worked well for so many years, its the setup-interface, that needs a
 little rework (amongst other modules ?)
 
 BTW, what really irks me is, that when I run Windows 7 (have multi-boot
 with Grub), which I do every fortnight to keep up with the security- and
 important updates - takes 2 - 5 hours every time - the clock is spot on,
 right from the GUI shows up (!)

I understand the frustration gerti, and I'm sorry that you're having
problems.

I still don't understand the steps to take to not get the right time. I
have a fresh VM install of 11.04 that was already configured to query NTP
from the network, and it did so flawlessly without changing anything. It
also works fine if I just install ntp on a server, so I really don't
think there's a problem with the ntp package, but maybe I have missed
a step or detail that causes you issues?

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[Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2011-05-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from gerti's message of Sat May 21 16:47:41 UTC 2011:
 Hi Clint,
 
 I appreciate, that a lot of the work going on around Ubuntu, is  
 voluntary non-paid time,
 and I DO appreciate, that heroic endeavor; cause otherwise, I could  
 only fall back to the ridiculously bug-ridden MS Windows...
 But I would recommend that a person having authority to and taking  
 upon himself to close a bug-report (as invalid), at least had read the  
 bug-report, before closing the case :
 
 I reported, that my completely raw (i.e. non-update) 11.4 Ubuntu did  
 not adjust the clock correctly.
 As this had not been a problem in all the earlier versions of Ubuntu  
 (and I have run them all), I was sure, that the nice Ubuntu-peoples  
 would like to know.
 
 Therefore I tried to experiment a little, amongst which removing the  
 NTP-daemon,
 before reporting the bug.
 
 This IS a current bug,
 the clock is NOT adjusted correctly after having installed 11.4 on an  
 Acer Aspire one.
 
 In my opinion its an flawed thinking, to remove the possibility under  
 settings to configure, which NTP-servers should be contacted to adjust  
 the clock.

gerti, first I mistyped useful as useless in my reply, as I think
users find it quite use*ful* to have the ntp daemon synchronizing
their time.

Is it possible that you had temporary connection problems that prevented
the automatic time synchronization from working? I tested a fresh install
and it kept the time synced as I would expect. I didn't try starting
with a clock that was wildly out of sync with true time though.. maybe
thats part of the problem you're having? ntpd does refuse to make big
jumps in time, so if you are too far off, it doesn't help.

That the ability to change the NTP servers has been removed is more a bug
in indicator-datetime, not so much the ntp daemon which is really just
the magic that happens behind the scenes.

I could definitely argue that before starting ntpd, setting the option
to set the time Automatically from the Internet should use ntpdate to
set it if it is too far off.

So, I'm opening a new task against indicator-datetime, which we'll leave
at status New, so developers more familiar with its operation can decide
if this is by design or an accidental regression.


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Re: [Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2011-05-21 Thread gerti
Hi Clint,

I appreciate, that a lot of the work going on around Ubuntu, is  
voluntary non-paid time,
and I DO appreciate, that heroic endeavor; cause otherwise, I could  
only fall back to the ridiculously bug-ridden MS Windows...
But I would recommend that a person having authority to and taking  
upon himself to close a bug-report (as invalid), at least had read the  
bug-report, before closing the case :

I reported, that my completely raw (i.e. non-update) 11.4 Ubuntu did  
not adjust the clock correctly.
As this had not been a problem in all the earlier versions of Ubuntu  
(and I have run them all), I was sure, that the nice Ubuntu-peoples  
would like to know.

Therefore I tried to experiment a little, amongst which removing the  
NTP-daemon,
before reporting the bug.

This IS a current bug,
the clock is NOT adjusted correctly after having installed 11.4 on an  
Acer Aspire one.

In my opinion its an flawed thinking, to remove the possibility under  
settings to configure, which NTP-servers should be contacted to adjust  
the clock.

Please reopen this bug

regards gerti



 Excerpts from gerti's message of Fri May 20 19:54:59 UTC 2011:
 Hi Clint,

 thanks for your answer.
 Yes the 4 NTP-servers, you cite, IF you install the NTP-daemon.
 But as it didn't work, I removed the NTP-daemon again.
 I shouldn't need the NTP-daemon, as I don't want to run a NTP-service
 for other machines om my network.

 As of this moment
 grep pool /etc/ntp.conf
 yields
 # Use public servers from the pool.ntp.org project.
 # Please consider joining the pool (http://www.pool.ntp.org/join.html).
 server dk.pool.ntp.org iburst
 server pool.ntp.org iburst

 I assume because I have run the ntpdate with these NTP-servers
 (several times).

 and running
 ls -l /etc/rc?.d/*ntp*
 yields
 ls: cannot access /etc/rc?.d/*ntp*: No such file or directory

 again, presumably, because I removed the (for me) useless NTP-daemon.

 Gerti, thanks for the reply! I think quite a few users find the ntp
 daemon quite useless, which is why it gets installed by default.

 If you want to configure things differently from the default, that
 is your prerogative. I suggest you add a file to /etc/cron.daily that
 runs ntpdate to sync daily, or if you want to do it more often, write
 a crontab entry that handles it the way you want it handled.

 Closing the bug as Invalid.


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 Status in “ntp” package in Ubuntu:
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 Bug description:
   11.4
   after installation there doesn't seems to be configured any   
 communication with the nets NTP-servers, as the time isn't set   
 correctly.
   using ntpdate, its possible to get the time set correctly, but   
 this only last until next boot.
   1) Default ought to be, that there is communication with NTP-server
   (when setting location to Denmark the NTP-server(s) ought be set   
 to dk.pool.ntp.org)
   2) When explicitly using ntpdate, it ought to result in a lasting   
 configuration of the NTP-client.

   ProblemType: Bug
   DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04
   Package: gnome-system-monitor 2.28.2-0ubuntu1
   ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2
   Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic i686
   Architecture: i386
   Date: Wed May 11 12:53:34 2011
   ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/gnome-system-monitor
   ProcEnviron:
LANGUAGE=en_US:en
LANG=en_DK.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
SHELL=/bin/bash
   SourcePackage: gnome-system-monitor
   UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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Re: [Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2011-05-20 Thread gerti
Hi Clint,

thanks for your answer.
Yes the 4 NTP-servers, you cite, IF you install the NTP-daemon.
But as it didn't work, I removed the NTP-daemon again.
I shouldn't need the NTP-daemon, as I don't want to run a NTP-service  
for other machines om my network.

As of this moment
grep pool /etc/ntp.conf
yields
# Use public servers from the pool.ntp.org project.
# Please consider joining the pool (http://www.pool.ntp.org/join.html).
server dk.pool.ntp.org iburst
server pool.ntp.org iburst

I assume because I have run the ntpdate with these NTP-servers  
(several times).

and running
ls -l /etc/rc?.d/*ntp*
yields
ls: cannot access /etc/rc?.d/*ntp*: No such file or directory

again, presumably, because I removed the (for me) useless NTP-daemon.

regards gerti


 Hi gerti! Thanks for taking the time to file this bug report and help us
 make Ubuntu better.

 I am not seeing the same effect as you on a fresh Natty install.
 /etc/ntp.conf has 4 servers configured by default:


 grep pool /etc/ntp.conf
 # on 2011-02-08 (LP: #104525). See http://www.pool.ntp.org/join.html for
 server 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
 server 1.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
 server 2.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
 server 3.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org


 ntp:
   Installed: 1:4.2.6.p2+dfsg-1ubuntu5
   Candidate: 1:4.2.6.p2+dfsg-1ubuntu5
   Version table:
  *** 1:4.2.6.p2+dfsg-1ubuntu5 0
 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/main amd64 Packages
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

 Can you upload the contents of /etc/ntp.conf to the bug report, so that
 we can try to figure out why ntp isn't syncing?

 Also can you provide the output of this command:


 $ ls -l /etc/rc?.d/*ntp*
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-03-07 03:03 /etc/rc0.d/K50ntp - ../init.d/ntp
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-03-07 03:03 /etc/rc1.d/K77ntp - ../init.d/ntp
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-03-07 03:03 /etc/rc2.d/S23ntp - ../init.d/ntp
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-03-07 03:03 /etc/rc3.d/S23ntp - ../init.d/ntp
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-03-07 03:03 /etc/rc4.d/S23ntp - ../init.d/ntp
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-03-07 03:03 /etc/rc5.d/S23ntp - ../init.d/ntp
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-03-07 03:03 /etc/rc6.d/K50ntp - ../init.d/ntp

 Marking Incomplete pending response.

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 Status in “ntp” package in Ubuntu:
   Incomplete

 Bug description:
   11.4
   after installation there doesn't seems to be configured any   
 communication with the nets NTP-servers, as the time isn't set   
 correctly.
   using ntpdate, its possible to get the time set correctly, but   
 this only last until next boot.
   1) Default ought to be, that there is communication with NTP-server
   (when setting location to Denmark the NTP-server(s) ought be set   
 to dk.pool.ntp.org)
   2) When explicitly using ntpdate, it ought to result in a lasting   
 configuration of the NTP-client.

   ProblemType: Bug
   DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04
   Package: gnome-system-monitor 2.28.2-0ubuntu1
   ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2
   Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic i686
   Architecture: i386
   Date: Wed May 11 12:53:34 2011
   ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/gnome-system-monitor
   ProcEnviron:
LANGUAGE=en_US:en
LANG=en_DK.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
SHELL=/bin/bash
   SourcePackage: gnome-system-monitor
   UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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[Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2011-05-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from gerti's message of Fri May 20 19:54:59 UTC 2011:
 Hi Clint,
 
 thanks for your answer.
 Yes the 4 NTP-servers, you cite, IF you install the NTP-daemon.
 But as it didn't work, I removed the NTP-daemon again.
 I shouldn't need the NTP-daemon, as I don't want to run a NTP-service  
 for other machines om my network.
 
 As of this moment
 grep pool /etc/ntp.conf
 yields
 # Use public servers from the pool.ntp.org project.
 # Please consider joining the pool (http://www.pool.ntp.org/join.html).
 server dk.pool.ntp.org iburst
 server pool.ntp.org iburst
 
 I assume because I have run the ntpdate with these NTP-servers  
 (several times).
 
 and running
 ls -l /etc/rc?.d/*ntp*
 yields
 ls: cannot access /etc/rc?.d/*ntp*: No such file or directory
 
 again, presumably, because I removed the (for me) useless NTP-daemon.

Gerti, thanks for the reply! I think quite a few users find the ntp
daemon quite useless, which is why it gets installed by default.

If you want to configure things differently from the default, that
is your prerogative. I suggest you add a file to /etc/cron.daily that
runs ntpdate to sync daily, or if you want to do it more often, write
a crontab entry that handles it the way you want it handled.

Closing the bug as Invalid.


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   Status: Incomplete = Invalid

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[Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2011-05-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Hi gerti! Thanks for taking the time to file this bug report and help us
make Ubuntu better.

I am not seeing the same effect as you on a fresh Natty install.
/etc/ntp.conf has 4 servers configured by default:


grep pool /etc/ntp.conf
# on 2011-02-08 (LP: #104525). See http://www.pool.ntp.org/join.html for
server 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
server 1.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
server 2.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
server 3.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org


ntp:
  Installed: 1:4.2.6.p2+dfsg-1ubuntu5
  Candidate: 1:4.2.6.p2+dfsg-1ubuntu5
  Version table:
 *** 1:4.2.6.p2+dfsg-1ubuntu5 0
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Can you upload the contents of /etc/ntp.conf to the bug report, so that
we can try to figure out why ntp isn't syncing?

Also can you provide the output of this command:


$ ls -l /etc/rc?.d/*ntp*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-03-07 03:03 /etc/rc0.d/K50ntp - ../init.d/ntp
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-03-07 03:03 /etc/rc1.d/K77ntp - ../init.d/ntp
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-03-07 03:03 /etc/rc2.d/S23ntp - ../init.d/ntp
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-03-07 03:03 /etc/rc3.d/S23ntp - ../init.d/ntp
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-03-07 03:03 /etc/rc4.d/S23ntp - ../init.d/ntp
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-03-07 03:03 /etc/rc5.d/S23ntp - ../init.d/ntp
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-03-07 03:03 /etc/rc6.d/K50ntp - ../init.d/ntp

Marking Incomplete pending response.

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   Status: New = Incomplete

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[Bug 781088] Re: Time is not syncronized with NTP-server

2011-05-12 Thread IKT
** Package changed: ubuntu = ntp (Ubuntu)

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