Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase "RecordMyDesktop"

[Len Ovens]

On Sat, 16 Apr 2016, br...@linuxsynths.com wrote:


have you guys tried Simple Screen Recorder? I've had much success with it and 
I'd
love to see it in the US repos! Here's the website: SSR 


As with everything ubuntu, it needs to be in the debian repos first. 
Personally, I have had zero success packaging sw to a *.deb package :(


I can write my own sw but packaging is just wierd...

Anyway, what I did find in the Ubuntu repos is Vokoscreen. It seems to be 
a GUI wrapper around avconv/ffmpeg depending which you have. It allows 
full screen/Window/Area video in. Seems to be in current development, 
2.4.0 was released this year. (we are stuck with 1.9.0 in Ubuntu) Maybe 
because they seem to be heading all ffmpeg (now that debian has mmpeg 
again).


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase "RecordMyDesktop"

[brian]

  

If I may 

have you guys tried Simple Screen Recorder? I've had
much success with it and I'd love to see it in the US repos! Here's the
website: SSR [4]  

brian 

On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 13:55:53 -0400,
lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: 

> Recordmydesktop has always had
problems for me with not saving all of the
> video stream, I can lose as
much as the second half of it in some cases, so
> I always record longer
than I need to as a workaround.
> 
> On 4/16/2016 at 11:50 AM, "Kaj
Ailomaa" wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Grant Frank
Burton wrote: 
>> 
>>> RecordMyDesktop works but not very good. It looks
a clunker,
>> takes a long 
>> 
>>> time to process the video and the
quality is not very good. Kazam is a much better program but when I
installed it, I
>> don't get

  

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase "RecordMyDesktop"

[lukefromdc]

Video quality can be changed, I normally switch framerate out to 30fps rather 
than
15 due to my use case. Wonder though if that is a factor in the loss of the 
last 
part of the video recorded due to some variable expecting a set number of 
frames.

On 4/16/2016 at 5:29 AM, "Grant Frank Burton"  wrote:
>
>RecordMyDesktop works but not very good. It looks a clunker, takes 
>a long
>time to process the video and the quality is not very good.
>
>Kazam is a much better program but when I installed it, I 
>don't get to
>option to remove it, I only can install it again. I can take it 
>out with a
>terminal but not from the software center window.


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase "RecordMyDesktop"

[lukefromdc]

Recordmydesktop has always had problems for me with not saving all of the
video stream, I can lose as much as the second half of it in some cases, so
I always record longer than I need to as a workaround.

On 4/16/2016 at 11:50 AM, "Kaj Ailomaa"  wrote:
>
>On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Grant Frank Burton wrote:
>> RecordMyDesktop works but not very good. It looks a clunker, 
>takes a long
>> time to process the video and the quality is not very good.
>> 
>> Kazam is a much better program but when I installed it, I 
>don't get
>> to
>> option to remove it, I only can install it again. I can take it 
>out with
>> a
>> terminal but not from the software center window.
>
>I would agree that we should probably use another program for 
>desktop
>recording. I may have suggestions there too, but we don't do any 
>changes
>in our application selection this late in the game, unless there's 
>a
>critical bug, so this will have to wait until the next development 
>cycle
>(which is quite soon).
>
>If you are unable to install applications with Software, please 
>report a
>bug about that. The package name is gnome-software, so in a 
>terminal,
>you do:
>
>ubuntu-bug gnome-software
>
>Thanks for putting some attention on this
>
>/Kaj
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase "RecordMyDesktop"

[Grant Frank Burton]

I mean with Kazam not RecordMyDesktop

Kazam works even if your recording with another program. You just have to
save and close the program your recording before you save the screen video

On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Grant Frank Burton 
wrote:

> there was an update for the software center... everything fine
>
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Kaj Ailomaa  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Grant Frank Burton wrote:
>> > RecordMyDesktop works but not very good. It looks a clunker, takes a
>> long
>> > time to process the video and the quality is not very good.
>> >
>> > Kazam is a much better program but when I installed it, I don't get
>> > to
>> > option to remove it, I only can install it again. I can take it out with
>> > a
>> > terminal but not from the software center window.
>>
>> I would agree that we should probably use another program for desktop
>> recording. I may have suggestions there too, but we don't do any changes
>> in our application selection this late in the game, unless there's a
>> critical bug, so this will have to wait until the next development cycle
>> (which is quite soon).
>>
>> If you are unable to install applications with Software, please report a
>> bug about that. The package name is gnome-software, so in a terminal,
>> you do:
>>
>> ubuntu-bug gnome-software
>>
>> Thanks for putting some attention on this
>>
>> /Kaj
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase "RecordMyDesktop"

[Grant Frank Burton]

there was an update for the software center... everything fine

On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Kaj Ailomaa  wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Grant Frank Burton wrote:
> > RecordMyDesktop works but not very good. It looks a clunker, takes a long
> > time to process the video and the quality is not very good.
> >
> > Kazam is a much better program but when I installed it, I don't get
> > to
> > option to remove it, I only can install it again. I can take it out with
> > a
> > terminal but not from the software center window.
>
> I would agree that we should probably use another program for desktop
> recording. I may have suggestions there too, but we don't do any changes
> in our application selection this late in the game, unless there's a
> critical bug, so this will have to wait until the next development cycle
> (which is quite soon).
>
> If you are unable to install applications with Software, please report a
> bug about that. The package name is gnome-software, so in a terminal,
> you do:
>
> ubuntu-bug gnome-software
>
> Thanks for putting some attention on this
>
> /Kaj
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase "Ardour"

[Grant Frank Burton]

ok Thanks I think I got it worked out.

I tried studio on two newer computers and it worked fine. Just some of the
files I made in Adour don't work right but that's because I did some crazy
patching or looping.

I had problems because studio never installed the 1 HDA ATI HDMI and 2SAA
7134 drivers on this computer before. Also for some reason if I've been
using ALSA I need to restart the system before I can use Jack. On the
 newer computers I could change back and forth a few times before I had to
restart.

Looks good!!

Thank you very Much

Grant Burton

On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Len Ovens  wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Apr 2016, Grant Frank Burton wrote:
>
> my problem is there are too many mixers I think.. If I open the
>> QasMixer and
>> select the input I want to use and make sure the capture is selected.
>> Then open
>> ardour and it works most of the time most of the time.
>>
>
> QASMixer is for setting up the sound card levels and enabling them.
> pavucontrol (sound settings on the audio drop down) controls only desktop
> audio. Ardour can use either ALSA directly (cuts off all desktop audio BTW)
> or Jack (controlled with qjackctl) which can have desktop audio routed
> through it at the same time as Ardour is running if desired.
>
> I don't think a normal user would find that..
>>
>> there are three cards in my system
>> 0 HDA Intel
>> VIA VT17085
>>
>> 1 HDA ATI HDMI
>> ATI R6xx HDMIHDA ATI HDMI
>>
>> 2SAA 7134
>> SAA7134 MixerHDA ATI HDMI
>>
>> often the output is sent to HDA ATI HDMI but there is nothing plugged
>> into there.
>>
>
> Output from what? Desktop? In the case of desktop audio, open pavucontrol
> select the configuration tab and turn the profile for ATI HDMI off. PA will
> then ignore that card.
>
> If you mean in Ardour, select the correct card in either Ardour (if using
> alsa) or in qjackctl (if using jack) both will remember that card for next
> time. My prefer running Ardour with the jack audio back end. (I have only
> run Ardour with alsa selected for a quick trial to see if it works)
>
> Personally, I turn all profiles off in pavucontrol and let the desktop
> audio flow through jack. I start jack at login and run it all the time. Do
> be aware that some desktop applications (skype is known for this) require a
> higher latency in jack to work. I have not been able to get skype to work
> at less than 512/2 in jack. In my opinion this is a bug in pulse modules
> jack_sink/source. I have not had trouble running most other desktop
> applications at lower latencies though (64/2 or 128/2).
>
> Other people run one audio card just for desktop (with it's own
> amp/speakers or to another mixer input) and another card just for Jack use.
> This was quite common before firewire code was added to alsa.
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase "RecordMyDesktop"

[Kaj Ailomaa]

On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Grant Frank Burton wrote:
> RecordMyDesktop works but not very good. It looks a clunker, takes a long
> time to process the video and the quality is not very good.
> 
> Kazam is a much better program but when I installed it, I don't get
> to
> option to remove it, I only can install it again. I can take it out with
> a
> terminal but not from the software center window.

I would agree that we should probably use another program for desktop
recording. I may have suggestions there too, but we don't do any changes
in our application selection this late in the game, unless there's a
critical bug, so this will have to wait until the next development cycle
(which is quite soon).

If you are unable to install applications with Software, please report a
bug about that. The package name is gnome-software, so in a terminal,
you do:

ubuntu-bug gnome-software

Thanks for putting some attention on this

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase "Ardour"

[Len Ovens]

On Sat, 16 Apr 2016, Grant Frank Burton wrote:


my problem is there are too many mixers I think.. If I open the QasMixer and
select the input I want to use and make sure the capture is selected. Then open
ardour and it works most of the time most of the time.


QASMixer is for setting up the sound card levels and enabling them. 
pavucontrol (sound settings on the audio drop down) controls only desktop 
audio. Ardour can use either ALSA directly (cuts off all desktop audio 
BTW) or Jack (controlled with qjackctl) which can have desktop audio 
routed through it at the same time as Ardour is running if desired.



I don't think a normal user would find that..

there are three cards in my system
0 HDA Intel
VIA VT17085

1 HDA ATI HDMI
ATI R6xx HDMIHDA ATI HDMI

2SAA 7134
SAA7134 MixerHDA ATI HDMI

often the output is sent to HDA ATI HDMI but there is nothing plugged into 
there.


Output from what? Desktop? In the case of desktop audio, open pavucontrol 
select the configuration tab and turn the profile for ATI HDMI off. PA 
will then ignore that card.


If you mean in Ardour, select the correct card in either Ardour (if using 
alsa) or in qjackctl (if using jack) both will remember that card for next 
time. My prefer running Ardour with the jack audio back end. (I have only 
run Ardour with alsa selected for a quick trial to see if it works)


Personally, I turn all profiles off in pavucontrol and let the desktop 
audio flow through jack. I start jack at login and run it all the time. Do 
be aware that some desktop applications (skype is known for this) require 
a higher latency in jack to work. I have not been able to get skype to 
work at less than 512/2 in jack. In my opinion this is a bug in pulse 
modules jack_sink/source. I have not had trouble running most other 
desktop applications at lower latencies though (64/2 or 128/2).


Other people run one audio card just for desktop (with it's own 
amp/speakers or to another mixer input) and another card just for Jack 
use. This was quite common before firewire code was added to alsa.


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase "Ardour"

[Len Ovens]

On Sat, 16 Apr 2016, Grant Frank Burton wrote:


Greetings All
Right after the install the first time I open Ardour, The option to open an
existing file was NOT there.
Is that a Bug or was it intentional? 


I have not tested that exact thing. It is true that A4 uses a different 
config directory than A3 does, so recent projects will not be displayed 
unless the option to use A3 config is used. So to open an old project 
menas finding the *.ardour file.



I recorded a track using the line-in and guitar. fine. But when I went to
record a second track there was no way to rehearse-monitor-audition the track,
the only way to hear it was to record.
So I guess the the bug is NO rehearse-monitor-audition?


Do you have the mixer window open? or the mixer strip showing in the 
editer window? In the mixer, to the right of the record enable button 
there are two buttons I and D (input and disk) that will override auto 
selection. Try pressing the I to audition the input.



I tried opening up other projects I recorded. they seem to play ok but if I
add a new track, the volume will be super loud. But if I turn it down the volume
will be too low to record so I need to adjust the sound while I'm recording,
delete the track and recorded it again.


See above and make sure you are not double routing the same input via two 
paths.



even when I make a new session and import the audio from another project... if I
add a new track, the volume will be super loud. But if I turn it down the volume
will be too low to record so I need to adjust the sound while I'm recording,
delete the track and recorded it again.


Same as above. I have not seen this at all. By the way, the transport does 
not have to be rolling for record to be engaged.



the line-in and MIC plugs or jacks. what ever one I going to use, I need to plug
it in before I start Ardour. If I touch any of them, I get a high pitch noise 
and
the only way to get rid of it is to restart jack and Ardour.


Sounds like faulty routing. I do not have this problem at all. If you need 
help with routing, IRC is the best place. You can upload what you see to a 
paste site (picpaste.com for example) and someone else can see what you 
have and suggest changes. Trouble shooting via email is is painful.



the metronome... I can't play with that thing. when I need it I record a
track using the metronome from my keyboard or guitar pedal.


That does not describe your problem. I do know it is possible to replace 
the wav used in the metronome though.



I have Studio 14 with Ardour 3 on another disk. It works fine except... 
rehearse-monitor-audition is on all the time which is ok by me. just don't
understand why there is a button to turn it on and off that don't work.


A3 had a lot of problems and yes A4 has a lot of changes from there 
(thousands of changes)



And sometimes when I'm recording out of nowhere a location Marker will appear in
my project.


Red maybe? it is marking audio xruns for you.

All of the things you describe appear to me to be how ardour is being 
used. If they are bugs they are ardour bugs, not Studio bugs. Ardour is 
in constant development.


https://github.com/Ardour/ardour/commits/master shows the changes from 
latest and back. The lead dev is on holidays just now and has been working 
on a branch, so you are only seeing about half the activity just now.


Ubuntustudio 16.04 is now locked at Ardour 4.6 and is unlikely to be 
changed before release. If you wish the latest and greatest or you wish to 
discuss changes with the devs. I would suggest subscribing so you can 
download the nightly build or newer versions (4.7 has been out for a few 
months now).


The ardour development team will not be willing to talk to you about fixes 
for 4.6, the first thing they will ask you to do is install the nightly 
and see if the bug is still there. You can download a demo version of the 
nightly (works for 10 minutes then goes silent with pop up for longer), 
but subscription is very cheap (minimum $1/month) and gets you online 
support... including usage. There are also two PPAs that have newer 
versions of Ardour available.


The version that comes with Ubuntustudio 16.04 is 4.6 and will stay that 
way for the life of 16.04. To keep up with Ardour release schedule you 
need to either subscribe at Ardour.org or you need use Dobey's PPA (I 
think kxstudio is still based on 14.04, but that will change within the 
next month or so)


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase "Ardour"

[Ralf Mardorf]

Hi,

I didn't use Ardour for a long time, however, I suspect handling errors
for most, if not everything you described. Let's start with this:

>I tried opening up other projects I recorded. they seem to play ok
>but if I add a new track, the volume will be super loud. But if I
>turn it down the volume will be too low to record so I need to adjust
>the sound while I'm recording, delete the track and recorded it again.

Where do you adjust the volume? If the record level is ok and the
output volume is to loud, you need to reduce the output level, not any
input gain. Ardour might provide some "hidden", right click monitor
options, I don't know, anyway, have you ensured that all settings are
set correctly, e.g. regarding software monitoring?

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase "Ardour"

[Grant Frank Burton]

OK..

my problem is there are too many mixers I think.. If I open the
QasMixer and select the input I want to use and make sure the capture is
selected. Then open ardour and it works most of the time most of the
time.

I don't think a normal user would find that..

there are three cards in my system
0 HDA Intel
VIA VT17085

1 HDA ATI HDMI
ATI R6xx HDMIHDA ATI HDMI

2SAA 7134
SAA7134 MixerHDA ATI HDMI

often the output is sent to HDA ATI HDMI but there is nothing plugged into
there.



I have another computer almost the same as this one I will try it there now.

On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Grant Frank Burton 
wrote:

> Greetings All
>
> Right after the install the first time I open Ardour, The option to open
> an existing file was NOT there.
> Is that a Bug or was it intentional?
>
> I recorded a track using the line-in and guitar. fine. But when I went
> to record a second track there was no way to rehearse-monitor-audition the
> track, the only way to hear it was to record.
> So I guess the the bug is NO rehearse-monitor-audition?
>
> I tried opening up other projects I recorded. they seem to play ok but
> if I add a new track, the volume will be super loud. But if I turn it down
> the volume will be too low to record so I need to adjust the sound while
> I'm recording, delete the track and recorded it again.
>
> even when I make a new session and import the audio from another
> project... if I add a new track, the volume will be super loud. But if I
> turn it down the volume will be too low to record so I need to adjust the
> sound while I'm recording, delete the track and recorded it again.
>
> the line-in and MIC plugs or jacks. what ever one I going to use, I need
> to plug it in before I start Ardour. If I touch any of them, I get a high
> pitch noise and the only way to get rid of it is to restart jack and Ardour.
>
> the metronome... I can't play with that thing. when I need it I record
> a track using the metronome from my keyboard or guitar pedal.
>
> I have Studio 14 with Ardour 3 on another disk. It works fine except...
> rehearse-monitor-audition is on all the time which is ok by me. just
> don't understand why there is a button to turn it on and off that don't
> work.
> And sometimes when I'm recording out of nowhere a location Marker will
> appear in my project.
>
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[ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase "RecordMyDesktop"

[Grant Frank Burton]

RecordMyDesktop works but not very good. It looks a clunker, takes a long
time to process the video and the quality is not very good.

Kazam is a much better program but when I installed it, I don't get to
option to remove it, I only can install it again. I can take it out with a
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[ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase "Ardour"

[Grant Frank Burton]

Greetings All

Right after the install the first time I open Ardour, The option to open an
existing file was NOT there.
Is that a Bug or was it intentional?

I recorded a track using the line-in and guitar. fine. But when I went
to record a second track there was no way to rehearse-monitor-audition the
track, the only way to hear it was to record.
So I guess the the bug is NO rehearse-monitor-audition?

I tried opening up other projects I recorded. they seem to play ok but
if I add a new track, the volume will be super loud. But if I turn it down
the volume will be too low to record so I need to adjust the sound while
I'm recording, delete the track and recorded it again.

even when I make a new session and import the audio from another project...
if I add a new track, the volume will be super loud. But if I turn it down
the volume will be too low to record so I need to adjust the sound while
I'm recording, delete the track and recorded it again.

the line-in and MIC plugs or jacks. what ever one I going to use, I need to
plug it in before I start Ardour. If I touch any of them, I get a high
pitch noise and the only way to get rid of it is to restart jack and Ardour.

the metronome... I can't play with that thing. when I need it I record
a track using the metronome from my keyboard or guitar pedal.

I have Studio 14 with Ardour 3 on another disk. It works fine except...
rehearse-monitor-audition is on all the time which is ok by me. just
don't understand why there is a button to turn it on and off that don't
work.
And sometimes when I'm recording out of nowhere a location Marker will
appear in my project.
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