Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature tour

[WMID]

I like this picture:

http://storage6.static.itmages.com/i/16/0729/h_1469751263_9886431_931448cd0b.png



2016-07-28 16:20 GMT-05:00 Set Sakrecoer :

> On 2016-07-28 14:33, Set Hallstrom wrote:
>
>> This afternoon i will try put together
>>
>
> Yeah... it became this evening, better than mañana? :D
>
> Anyways, here it is:
> http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/render.png
>
> Misunderstand me right: this is _not_ how it /must/ look, it is just an
> attempt to put together what we have and render it into something united
> and comprehensible. Hopefully it will help us push the envelope...
>
> I put all the material i used here:
> http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/website.tar.gz
>
> Looking forward to read you,
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature tour

[Set Sakrecoer]

On 2016-07-28 14:33, Set Hallstrom wrote:

This afternoon i will try put together


Yeah... it became this evening, better than mañana? :D

Anyways, here it is:
http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/render.png

Misunderstand me right: this is _not_ how it /must/ look, it is just an 
attempt to put together what we have and render it into something united 
and comprehensible. Hopefully it will help us push the envelope...


I put all the material i used here:
http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/website.tar.gz

Looking forward to read you,
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] antiX Linux, great piece of software to construct other UbuntuStudio

[WMID]

I see that is not possible. I test windows apps in wine in openbox,
razor-qt, lubuntu-desktop, lxqt and is the same, the fonts rendering are
bad. Only in XFCE default see good wine apps.

See you later, God Bless

2016-07-28 12:29 GMT-05:00 WMID :

> Thanks Ralf and Matthew. Explain that the problem is in icewm, because the
> wine apps that I use in default XFCE environment always are ok with their
> fonts
>
> Here snapshots in UbuntuStudio 16.04 x386
>
> I use this three windows apps
> - e-Sword
> - TAudioConverter
> - Infostat
>
> 01 e-Sword (wine 1.7 in PlayOmLinux) bad font rendering in IceWM.png
>
>
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KzTQ8BZNKxg/V5o92f6W3bI/Ddw/MF0yB-GNx64SPRqfqeZKYmpfqgtR497FQCK4B/s1600/01%2Be-Sword%2B%2528wine%2B1.7%2Ben%2BPlayOmLinux%2529%2Bno%2Bse%2Bve%2Bbien%2Ben%2BIceWM.png
>
> 02 e-Sword (wine 1.7 in PlayOmLinux) good font rendering in XFCE.png
>
>
> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vOguDWGdpWQ/V5o94DAwKqI/Dd4/OfUCAMIVsEE9fVi7GDy_Ib-hTY1p2ZCFwCK4B/s1600/02%2Be-Sword%2B%2528wine%2B1.7%2Ben%2BPlayOmLinux%2529%2Bsi%2Bse%2Bve%2Bbien%2Ben%2BXFCE.png
>
> 03 TAudioConverter(Wine 1.6 default in ubuntu repositories) bad font
> rendering in IceWM.png
>
>
> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cKjGEjqbsyA/V5o95qcbo1I/DeA/R2uoU8ryuKg_oBhWS3vnQA4joZ16cvEvACK4B/s1600/03%2BTAudioConverter%2Bfuentes%2Bno%2Bse%2Bven%2Bbien%2BIceWM.png
>
> 04 TAudioConverter(Wine 1.6 default in ubuntu repositories) good font
> rendering in XFCE.png
>
>
> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-42i0U8WR9dg/V5o975zyMkI/DeI/vir5WtwDf8QS1pEp0oFNkY9evZdV7u3vQCK4B/s1600/04%2BTAudioConverter%2Bfuentes%2Bsi%2Bse%2Bven%2Bbien%2BXFCE.png
>
> 05 infostat(Wine 1.6 default in ubuntu repositories) bad font rendering in
> IceWM.png
>
>
> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cHXpAsRiVg4/V5o99SIY-XI/DeQ/U8nJaqP4ywAji5T3hjcK9MLmXp-qZRRUwCK4B/s1600/05%2Binfostat%2528Wine%2B1.6%2529%2Bfuentes%2Bno%2Bse%2Bven%2Bbien%2BIceWM.png
>
> 06 infostat(Wine 1.6 default in ubuntu repositories) good font rendering
> in XFCE.png
>
>
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1bWbqZnnI28/V5o-ACUWMkI/DeY/I-LK41uwxMQB1rYgG_L9sc4LcJSqCGeiwCK4B/s1600/06%2Binfostat%2528Wine%2B1.6%2529%2Bfuentes%2Bsi%2Bse%2Bven%2Bbien%2Ben%2BXFCE.png
>
> Do you can help me to find a way to solved this, or if not I undertand it
>
> - Wachín
>
>
> ​
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] antiX Linux, great piece of software to construct other UbuntuStudio

[WMID]

Thanks Ralf and Matthew. Explain that the problem is in icewm, because the
wine apps that I use in default XFCE environment always are ok with their
fonts

Here snapshots in UbuntuStudio 16.04 x386

I use this three windows apps
- e-Sword
- TAudioConverter
- Infostat

01 e-Sword (wine 1.7 in PlayOmLinux) bad font rendering in IceWM.png

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KzTQ8BZNKxg/V5o92f6W3bI/Ddw/MF0yB-GNx64SPRqfqeZKYmpfqgtR497FQCK4B/s1600/01%2Be-Sword%2B%2528wine%2B1.7%2Ben%2BPlayOmLinux%2529%2Bno%2Bse%2Bve%2Bbien%2Ben%2BIceWM.png

02 e-Sword (wine 1.7 in PlayOmLinux) good font rendering in XFCE.png

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vOguDWGdpWQ/V5o94DAwKqI/Dd4/OfUCAMIVsEE9fVi7GDy_Ib-hTY1p2ZCFwCK4B/s1600/02%2Be-Sword%2B%2528wine%2B1.7%2Ben%2BPlayOmLinux%2529%2Bsi%2Bse%2Bve%2Bbien%2Ben%2BXFCE.png

03 TAudioConverter(Wine 1.6 default in ubuntu repositories) bad font
rendering in IceWM.png

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cKjGEjqbsyA/V5o95qcbo1I/DeA/R2uoU8ryuKg_oBhWS3vnQA4joZ16cvEvACK4B/s1600/03%2BTAudioConverter%2Bfuentes%2Bno%2Bse%2Bven%2Bbien%2BIceWM.png

04 TAudioConverter(Wine 1.6 default in ubuntu repositories) good font
rendering in XFCE.png

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-42i0U8WR9dg/V5o975zyMkI/DeI/vir5WtwDf8QS1pEp0oFNkY9evZdV7u3vQCK4B/s1600/04%2BTAudioConverter%2Bfuentes%2Bsi%2Bse%2Bven%2Bbien%2BXFCE.png

05 infostat(Wine 1.6 default in ubuntu repositories) bad font rendering in
IceWM.png

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cHXpAsRiVg4/V5o99SIY-XI/DeQ/U8nJaqP4ywAji5T3hjcK9MLmXp-qZRRUwCK4B/s1600/05%2Binfostat%2528Wine%2B1.6%2529%2Bfuentes%2Bno%2Bse%2Bven%2Bbien%2BIceWM.png

06 infostat(Wine 1.6 default in ubuntu repositories) good font rendering in
XFCE.png

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1bWbqZnnI28/V5o-ACUWMkI/DeY/I-LK41uwxMQB1rYgG_L9sc4LcJSqCGeiwCK4B/s1600/06%2Binfostat%2528Wine%2B1.6%2529%2Bfuentes%2Bsi%2Bse%2Bven%2Bbien%2Ben%2BXFCE.png

Do you can help me to find a way to solved this, or if not I undertand it

- Wachín


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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature tour (was: Seventh try )

[Set Hallstrom]

On 2016-06-23 02:00, Jóhann Örn Geirdal wrote:
> Seventh try ;)  Hi here is only a base I will ad to it some more but
> what do you think about this?
> http://geirdal.is/index.php/studio-0

I made a few shots that could work well as complementary pictures to the
more abstracto-figurative pictures Geirdal made for the categories.

I realize they might not be perfect, but maybe you like the idea?

I tried to make one for each category, but i think they all end up
having a lot of "audio focus" maybe it is a good thing? You tell me. One
sure thing is that the "graphic workflow" one, needs a different
on-screen content :D (too "cute, wtf, kindergarten")

http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/featuretour__1.jpg
http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/featuretour__2.jpg
http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/featuretour__3.jpg

The more i look at Geirdal pictures, the better i like these:

http://geirdal.is/images/studio/audio_x.png
http://geirdal.is/images/studio/graphic_03.png
http://geirdal.is/images/studio/video_x.png

If they are used without the pictograms, like they were intended: as
backgrounds for text and screenshots, i think they are perfect! They
refer to analogue times with very contemporary elements. I think it
emulates what we are quite well: /linux for creative humans/ a digital
product made by analogue robots ;) And they are quiet and noisy at the
same time, which i find to be a really poetic contrast.

I think this one is really beautyfull but it should be used without the
logos for the general "about" text in the feature tour (:
http://geirdal.is/images/studio/studio_07.png

It is risky, but i also find it very cool, fresh and inspiring. 90's
fractal with a millennial twist! This afternoon i will try put together
what i mean in a collage.

I'm convinced that, properly framed on the page, using geirdals pictures
could make the sexiest feature tour, ever :)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Add and remove packages

[Set Hallstrom]

On 2016-07-27 21:39, Ross Gammon wrote:
> Hi Ralf (and other interested people),
> 
> On 07/25/2016 08:56 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 15:05:13 +0200, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
>>> Then, also create your PPA to which you will upload your own custom
>>> meta.
>>
>> That's what I once wanted to do, but for me it's rocket science and I
>> never found a simple explanation for all steps, IOW there's no demo
>> with a real package, a beginner simply could copy, step by step.
>>
> 
> It is not rocket science. Even I can manage it :-)
> 
> You will never find a simple explanation for how to package, because
> there is more than one way to do it, and the steps to do it vary
> depending on what you are working on, and the tools and processes also
> change/improve over time.
> 
> If you know your way around the shell, how to compile software from
> source, how to apply a patch, how to install packages, how to use a bug
> tracker, and what version control means, you can package software for
> Ubuntu. You just need to learn some of the Debian/Ubuntu specific tools
> and processes. If you miss some of this knowledge, you just need time,
> patience and the ability to read and use a search engine!
> 
> My starting points/references:
> https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers (for packaging in Debian)
> http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/index.html (for packaging in Ubuntu)
> The Debian Mentors mailing list and IRC channel are excellent for
> getting help, and the Ubuntu MOTU team can help with Ubuntu specific
> queries.
> 
> The best thing is to find a task that needs doing, and get stuck in. If
> you get stuck, someone out there will know what to do, and either help
> you, or just do it for you (then you can inspect what they did afterwards).
> 
> You can also ask here at any step of the way. Especially if it is one of
> our packages, or our seeds.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ross
> 

Thank you guys! I learned a lot from all you guy's input and like Ross
suggests; by getting started things get more tangible. (Also, with the
good help of krytarik, it gets fun :) ) And i have to say it would be
awesome to see you get your hands dirty with us, Ralf. Knowing your
console-fu and you rocketmouse science skills ;)

I saw Ross added the 2 audio packages to the seeds \o/
And i took care of 2 first entries for graphics. The seed part is
actually very easy, once you get a grip on the terminology that is.
(seeds? meta? :D) I will try my best to document my progress and compile
it for the wiki.

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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Shimmer and numix (was: unmet dependencies)

[Set Hallstrom]

Hi Ross! :)
Good to have you back, hope you had a nice holiday!

On 2016-07-27 20:07, Ross Gammon wrote:
> This has been resolved.
> 
\o/

> For future reference, you can see the germination output of the seeds
> for Yakkety here:
> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntustudio.yakkety/all
> It helps to work out what is going on.

Thank you, i had no idea of that page!
> 
> The latest murrine-themes has been synced from Debian now (which was
> actually on my todo list before I went on holiday - yey, one crossed off
> - I love it when someone does the work when you are on holiday).
> For your information, some packages, and mainly ones that had Ubuntu
> specific modifications (giving the e.g. ubuntu1 extension to the version
> number), do not get automatically synced from Debian. They need to be
> merged manually. In this particular case, the Ubuntu specific
> modifications were dropped with a manual sync. From now on, the latest
> murrine-themes should sync across from Debian automatically.
> 

That explains a lot, thank you! :)

I've been looking into the theme thing with krytarik. As is now, we ship
ubuntu studio with greybird as default theme. Last time we discussed the
theme/look of the desktop, i want to remember many of us agreed on
finding a darker theme.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/murrine-themes
http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/shimmer-themes

Both Murrine and Shimmer have greybird (our default theme atm). But
shimmer is shipped with Numix. And Numix is a pretty excellent theme.

The cons as i see them for Numix are these:

- The way focused windows differentiate themselves from other (same as
greybird)
- The very thin window border makes it hard to catch the corners to
resize (same as gryebird)

The pros:

- It hear it is well maintained, like gerybird.
- While it is dark, unlike most dark-themes you never get problems with
webpage searchboxes displaying white text on white background.

The default highlight color of numix is red, but krytarik found a fix
from xubuntu unicorn to address this and let us have ubuntustudio blue
instead.

So, if i sound like i am pushing for a shift from murrine to shimmer and
for shipping 16.10 with numix as default theme and window header, you
got me alright. :D But of course, we need to agree on it first.

What are your thoughts, team?

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