Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Considerations from a video and photo editing perspective.

[Hank Stanglow]

On 05/17/2018 08:28 AM, Len Ovens wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2018, argumento wrote:
Also, I hate how ubuntu studio comes with a bunch of low quality free 
fonts, it makes it awkward to browse your font catalog. Maybe having 
less, but better fonts could help Ubuntu Studio be a better tool 
(anyway, anyone can get as many fonts as they want from dafont or 
-better- sites like Squirrel Font or Open Font, so less fonts might 
be a good way to go).
This I agree with even though I rarely do art or even formal text 
projects which need fonts. However, the few times I have used 
different fonts, I have fount it difficult to find anything. I have 
also stumbled on a lot that didn't look very nice. The idea of 
including lots of fonts was 12.*-ish as I recall.
The fonts was one of my complaints a few years ago and UbuntuStudio has 
greatly improved in this area. Most of the bad/redundant fonts come from 
Ubuntu. For example, on a fresh installation the family "Noto" takes up 
over a quarter of Inkscape's font selection tool -- there are like 60 
variants or something ridiculous. I understand the logic behind Ubuntu's 
choice to include several sans-serif fonts that are all pretty much the 
same, but I wish I didn't have to uninstall a dozen font packages 
whenever I do a fresh OS install.


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Considerations from a video and photo editing perspective.

[Erich Eickmeyer]

> Eric is working on an installer I don't know if installing extra fonts would 
> work from there. An extra fonts button that at least opens a browser at the 
> right place could be done though.

As long as it’s packaged or scripted, anything is possible. :)

Erich



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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Font list

[Len Ovens]

Our current font list can be found here:
https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.cosmic/view/head:/fonts

There are some that are included because some application needs them (I 
suspect t1-xfree86-nonfree is one of them). However, I think all the fonts 
needed for the DE are included somewhere else. One should not have to 
install this package for Studio to run.


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Considerations from a video and photo editing perspective.

[Len Ovens]

On Wed, 16 May 2018, argumento wrote:

(in case ubuntu studio sticks to GTK). Equilux is a material design 
based neutral gray theme, it might sound unimportant, but for ppl that 
do photo or video color correction, having a neutral gray theme is a 
great help. (idc about 'material design' guidelines, but they work).


https://github.com/ddnexus/equilux-theme


I know that theme colour is important artwork. However, I am not an artist 
myself. We have in the past always shipped more than one theme for this 
reason. Thank you for pointing this out. There are some more artists here 
maybe they can check this theme for such use.


Also, I hate how ubuntu studio comes with a bunch of low quality free 
fonts, it makes it awkward to browse your font catalog. Maybe having 
less, but better fonts could help Ubuntu Studio be a better tool 
(anyway, anyone can get as many fonts as they want from dafont or 
-better- sites like Squirrel Font or Open Font, so less fonts might be a 
good way to go).


This I agree with even though I rarely do art or even formal text projects 
which need fonts. However, the few times I have used different fonts, I 
have fount it difficult to find anything. I have also stumbled on a lot 
that didn't look very nice. The idea of including lots of fonts was 
12.*-ish as I recall.


 I'd like to share with you a well curated, free font collection, that 
could be used as a guideline: http://usemodify.com/


If you have time to go through our fonts list in ubuntustudio-fonts and 
tell me which ones to bump. I would be happy to do so. Also if you know of 
any others that have a ubuntu packge that should have been added this 
would be the time.


Eric is working on an installer I don't know if installing extra fonts 
would work from there. An extra fonts button that at least opens a browser 
at the right place could be done though.


Any thoughts? I don't personally have time to vet our fonts.


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Considerations from a video and photo editing perspective.

[erich]

On Thu, 2018-05-17 at 07:15 -0700, Charlie wrote:
> I think adding Plasma's a great step because I use Kubuntu as well as
> Ubuntu Studio. I'm very pleased with this announcement and look
> forward to 18.10. While I do like xfce for it's low resource use, I
> love Plasma. Excellent choice for a DE

These days, Xfce and Plasma have comparable resource usage out of the
box, believe it or not. I saw a recent comparison, but have forgotten
where I saw it, but Plasma only squeaked out with slightly more
resource usage by a few MB. Means one or both of two things: Plasma is
more lightweight now and/or Xfce is heavier than in the past. If I can
find that comparison, I'll post it.

> Will there be a separate .iso for the plasma version? 

We're looking into that.


BTW, welcome to the team! Could you link us to your launchpad ID?

Erich

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] hey

[Charlie]

hey ryan,

that's ok. i'll be back in the room sometime this afternoon. I'm in Los Angeles 
today with my wife. 

wiki: definitely! i'll let you know and i'd like to start helping with 
documentation as well. One thing I'd like to do is create a workflow for music 
recording and perhaps an entire how-to that's 'official' maybe? If it doesn't 
already exist that is. But, yeah, I'll go through the wiki and let you know 
about anything I see and question.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2018, at 19:27, Ryan Hoover  wrote:
> 
> Hi Charlie,
> 
> Glad to see an enthusiastic face!  I just missed your message in the
> IRC channel by about 10 minutes.  If you see anything on the wiki
> related to Ubuntu Studio that is outdated, inaccurate, or simply
> missing, please shoot me a line either in the mailing list or in the
> channel.
> 
> See you around!
> 
> Regards,
> Ryan (SlidingHorn)
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 May 2018 15:09:09 -0700
> Charlie  wrote:
> 
>> hey erich! thank you for the warmest welcomes and i've got my
>> launchpad account already and i've been an active tester of several
>> distros (ubuntu desktop as it was changing to using gnome, kubuntu,
>> ubuntu studio, linux mint) and i love doing it because i get to see
>> my little bit of work handed out to the world. 
>> 
>> #ubuntustudio-devel: i'll definitely be hanging out in our channel a
>> lot more but i've stepped in a few times before and i look forward to
>> being in the room more.
>> 
>> weekly saturday night meetings: awesome!! i'll be there as much as I
>> can. I look forward to discussing everything with everyone.
>> 
>> documentation: you're in luck! i love to write! so i'm looking for to
>> helping there. and then when i'm more adept at coding, i'll do that
>> of course. 
>> 
>> on another note, i'm also a musician so i can give great feedback and
>> suggestions for that. i've been looking forward to recording my debut
>> album soon. 
>> 
>> but let's rock it! i'm ready! and thank you for opening the door for
>> me. 
>> 
>> charlie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 16, 2018, at 13:20, er...@ericheickmeyer.com wrote:
 
 On Wed, 2018-05-16 at 12:36 -0700, Charlie wrote:
 hey everyone! i recently read the news on the website and I'm ready
 to jump in and help out however I can. I'm going back to school for
 software development this fall and  I'll be learning a lot and I
 want to help save my beloved OS. Right now, I can offer testing,
 maybe some documentation, and definitely some artwork or something
 like that. And I'm ready to start learning how to do things, even
 coding. Let's do this!
 
 Charlie 'metalbiker' Luna
 
>>> 
>>> Hi Charlie! Welcome! Glad to have you!
>>> 
>>> I hate to make you jump through hoops, but the first thing you'll
>>> need to do, if you haven't already, is get a launchpad account
>>> set-up. This will help in multiple ways as it allows us to add you
>>> to teams and such. Get started with that at launchpad.net.
>>> 
>>> That's just the first thing. There's more, but alas, I'm at my
>>> regular job right now and am unable to get everything to you that
>>> you'll need. If you haven't already, feel free to jump into the
>>> #ubuntustudio-devel channel on the FreeNode IRC network.
>>> 
>>> Also, our weekly development meetings take place every Saturday at
>>> 19:00 UTC - except this Saturday for multiple reasons. You're
>>> welcome to join us.
>>> 
>>> Since you offered, where we really need help is with documentation.
>>> SlidingHorn on IRC could definitely use some help with that.
>>> 
>>> Anyhow, thanks for volunteering, and welcome!
>>> -Erich
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Considerations from a video and photo editing perspective.

[Charlie]

I think adding Plasma's a great step because I use Kubuntu as well as Ubuntu 
Studio. I'm very pleased with this announcement and look forward to 18.10. 
While I do like xfce for it's low resource use, I love Plasma. Excellent choice 
for a DE. Will there be a separate .iso for the plasma version? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2018, at 19:57, er...@ericheickmeyer.com wrote:
> 
> Forgot to add, we've already made the decision to stay with Xfce for
> 18.10 and are adding Plasma as the first additional desktop
> environment.
> 
> Erich
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