Re: Call for testing: langpack updates for 20.04.2
Hi again, On 2021-01-28 01:13, Dennis Baudys wrote: The new language pack is good enough to be released, Ok, good, then let's release them. however the strings I mentioned (especially in snap-store-desktop) could make it a bit easier for Ubuntu beginners (that only speak German) to get new software. Some examples of those strings that I just translated a few hours ago in snap-store-desktop: Menu item: "Sign In" Categories: "Devices and IoT" "Education" "Finance" "Development" "Social" etc. Additional to that I corrected several strings in that package related to rpm-ostree, especially regarding plugins and multi layered packages. Mainly bad grammar, harmonization of wording, some typos and only very few plain wrong translations. I think updating the German language packs soon after the release of 20.04.2 would be great ("good enough"), if possible. Then let's do that *in addition to* moving the currently -proposed packages to -updates. The procedure is explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdateRequest So can you please submit a bug in accordance with that instruction, and we'll get to it soon. No worries, no stress. Heh, no worries here. :) Thanks for the heads up! -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Call for testing: langpack updates for 20.04.2
Hi Gunnar! Thank you very much for the reply and thoughts on this. I'm sorry that those strings slipped by. It's not the end of the world if the German language pack cannot be included in the 20.04.2 release. The new language pack is good enough to be released, however the strings I mentioned (especially in snap-store-desktop) could make it a bit easier for Ubuntu beginners (that only speak German) to get new software. Some examples of those strings that I just translated a few hours ago in snap-store-desktop: Menu item: "Sign In" Categories: "Devices and IoT" "Education" "Finance" "Development" "Social" etc. Additional to that I corrected several strings in that package related to rpm-ostree, especially regarding plugins and multi layered packages. Mainly bad grammar, harmonization of wording, some typos and only very few plain wrong translations. I think updating the German language packs soon after the release of 20.04.2 would be great ("good enough"), if possible. No worries, no stress. Thanks again and Best Regards, Dennis Baudys Am 28.01.21 um 00:40 schrieb Gunnar Hjalmarsson: Hi Dennis! On 2021-01-28 00:04, Dennis Baudys wrote: I just finished testing the German translations. Unfortunately there were dozens of strings not yet translated in snap-store and minor errors in the German translation elsewhere. These should be OK now! Could you please re-do the German language pack? Well, due to the time schedule, redoing it before the 20.04.2 release would be difficult. Not moving it to focal-updates, and with that stay with the current language packs, would be possible though. However, what you mention (the presence of untranslated strings and some badly translated strings) does not sound to me as a reason to keep the German language packs off from focal-updates. Or would you say that using the new language packs would be worse than keeping the old ones? One thing we can do is updating the German language packs soon after the release of 20.04.2, so the latest efforts make it to the users as package updates. What do you say about that? Btw. I cannot edit the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA to sign German translations off. It doesn't matter since we don't ask for explicit confirmations this time. -- Dennis Baudys email: thecon...@arcor.de GPG key-ID: E4A9FB08 fingerprint: CB9A 86FF 1C20 0426 3912 0276 3A78 E23F E4A9 FB08 Prüfer im deutschen Ubuntu-Übersetzer-Team launchpad: ~thecondordb OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Call for testing: langpack updates for 20.04.2
Hi Dennis! On 2021-01-28 00:04, Dennis Baudys wrote: I just finished testing the German translations. Unfortunately there were dozens of strings not yet translated in snap-store and minor errors in the German translation elsewhere. These should be OK now! Could you please re-do the German language pack? Well, due to the time schedule, redoing it before the 20.04.2 release would be difficult. Not moving it to focal-updates, and with that stay with the current language packs, would be possible though. However, what you mention (the presence of untranslated strings and some badly translated strings) does not sound to me as a reason to keep the German language packs off from focal-updates. Or would you say that using the new language packs would be worse than keeping the old ones? One thing we can do is updating the German language packs soon after the release of 20.04.2, so the latest efforts make it to the users as package updates. What do you say about that? Btw. I cannot edit the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA to sign German translations off. It doesn't matter since we don't ask for explicit confirmations this time. -- Cheers, Gunnar Hjalmarsson https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Call for testing: langpack updates for 20.04.2
Hello Dennis! I'm worried it might be a bit too late now. I'll see what we can do, but re-spinning language-packs is a process that requires a lot of time - the translation export usually takes a few hours + the actual package preparation is around 1.5h. Also, when refreshing the base langpacks it's also not feasible to just refresh a single language, because once those are out in -updates we need to mark a single export as the 'official base' for all the future deltas. So we'd have to do all the languages and then request a retest of those as well. And tomorrow we plan building our first 20.04.2 release candidates, so it's really really risky and tricky. I know how this sounds, but is the current situation with the DE langpack worse than what we have in the Ubuntu archives already? Is it worse in comparison to 20.04.1? Cheers, On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 at 00:04, Dennis Baudys wrote: > > Hi Gunnar and who it concerns! > > I just finished testing the German translations. Unfortunately there > were dozens of strings not yet translated in snap-store and minor errors > in the German translation elsewhere. > > These should be OK now! > > Could you please re-do the German language pack? I hope it's not too > late, because I just saw 2021-01-27 as the dead line but not the exact > time!! > > Btw. I cannot edit the page > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA > > to sign German translations off. > > Best Regards, > > > Dennis Baudys > > Am 22.01.21 um 20:51 schrieb Gunnar Hjalmarsson: > > Hello translators! > > > > I'm here again with a plea to help with testing new language packs. > > However, from now on we'll do it differently than previously. > > > > Updated language packs are available in focal-proposed as version > > 1:20.04+20210121. They will be moved to focal-updates on 2021-01-28 for > > all languages except those languages where we identify issues with the > > proposed language packs. > > > > As a prevention measure you can help out by installing the language > > packs for your language from focal-proposed and report here any issues > > you see which might be related to the updated translations. Then the > > language-packs for that language won't be moved to focal-updates until > > the issues have been considered and/or resolved. > > > > The names of the language packs which have been copied to focal-proposed > > are: > > > > language-pack-XX > > language-pack-XX-base > > language-pack-gnome-XX > > language-pack-gnome-XX-base > > > > where 'XX' is the language code. > > > > The steps on the previously used wiki page: > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA > > > > may serve as a hint on what to keep an eye on when testing. If you find > > issues, please report them here by 2021-01-27. > > > > > > -- > Dennis Baudys > > email: thecon...@arcor.de > GPG key-ID: E4A9FB08 > fingerprint: CB9A 86FF 1C20 0426 3912 > 0276 3A78 E23F E4A9 FB08 > > Prüfer im deutschen Ubuntu-Übersetzer-Team > > launchpad: ~thecondordb > > -- > ubuntu-translators mailing list > ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators -- Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak Foundations Team lukasz.zemc...@canonical.com www.canonical.com -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Call for testing: langpack updates for 20.04.2
Hi Gunnar and who it concerns! I just finished testing the German translations. Unfortunately there were dozens of strings not yet translated in snap-store and minor errors in the German translation elsewhere. These should be OK now! Could you please re-do the German language pack? I hope it's not too late, because I just saw 2021-01-27 as the dead line but not the exact time!! Btw. I cannot edit the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA to sign German translations off. Best Regards, Dennis Baudys Am 22.01.21 um 20:51 schrieb Gunnar Hjalmarsson: > Hello translators! > > I'm here again with a plea to help with testing new language packs. > However, from now on we'll do it differently than previously. > > Updated language packs are available in focal-proposed as version > 1:20.04+20210121. They will be moved to focal-updates on 2021-01-28 for > all languages except those languages where we identify issues with the > proposed language packs. > > As a prevention measure you can help out by installing the language > packs for your language from focal-proposed and report here any issues > you see which might be related to the updated translations. Then the > language-packs for that language won't be moved to focal-updates until > the issues have been considered and/or resolved. > > The names of the language packs which have been copied to focal-proposed > are: > > language-pack-XX > language-pack-XX-base > language-pack-gnome-XX > language-pack-gnome-XX-base > > where 'XX' is the language code. > > The steps on the previously used wiki page: > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA > > may serve as a hint on what to keep an eye on when testing. If you find > issues, please report them here by 2021-01-27. > > -- Dennis Baudys email: thecon...@arcor.de GPG key-ID: E4A9FB08 fingerprint: CB9A 86FF 1C20 0426 3912 0276 3A78 E23F E4A9 FB08 Prüfer im deutschen Ubuntu-Übersetzer-Team launchpad: ~thecondordb signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators