Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: OT: Small tremor just now? Earthquake?
I didn't feel it here in Oxford, I was awake at the time. Michael Rimicans wrote: I'm in Huddersfield in W.Yorkshire. How is Huddersfield? It's my home town, but now that I'm doing a PhD I don't get back very often (maybe twice a year). Tom -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on HP
Hi Guys Have any of you got any experience with HP servers and Ubuntu? I always use IBM but due to (blah blah) it looks like I'm getting HP. I will be installing 7.10 server on it. Does anyone have any plus/minus sides to it? Any incompatibilities or problems you have come up against? Thanks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: LoCo Council Nominations - Deadline: March 12th]
Thought this might be interesting to people. Cheers, Al. - Forwarded message from Jono Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Subject: LoCo Council Nominations - Deadline: March 12th From: Jono Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:43:48 + Hi all, I would like to open LoCo Council nominations. The LoCo Council will govern the LoCo community, make decisions on resource allocation, deal with conflict resolution and make decisions about where the project should move forward. You will be expected to serve a 2 year term on the council, and expected to attend regular LoCo Council IRC meetings (likely to be monthly). If you are interested, please send an email summarising your experience in the LoCo project to me - please add the subject line 'LoCo Council Nomination'. The deadline for applications is March 12th. Thanks! Jono -- Jono Bacon Ubuntu Community Manager jono(at)ubuntu(dot)com www.ubuntu.com / www.jonobacon.org -- loco-contacts mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts - End forwarded message - -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where are we with Green?
Rob Beard wrote: andy wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been listening to the BIG GREEN IT DEBATE on the register.. and although it's no where nearly finished (more or less just started).. there's already one point I'd love us to discuss. One of the things that comes up when discussing 'Green motors' is what I'd like to introduce as the Land Rover paradox. 70% of all Land Rovers ever made are still on the road. Once you take into account the energy required throughout the life of a car, including assembly and destruction - are Land Rovers actually that bad for the environment. IMHO, ubuntu may fit into the Land Rover, rather than Toyota Prius category, for a number of reasons. 1) Power Management - where are we at with ubuntu at the moment? My perception (this will/may be wrong) is that much of the onboard power management is managed through propreitary code, therefore ubuntu performs worse that XP.. par example (but much better than Vista.. on a hunch). My dual core 'Pentium Dual Core' is happily running at 1.2GHz at the moment (slowed down from 1.8GHz), it's independent per core too. That's all controlled by the Powernow Daemon... Here's the output from powernowd --help PowerNow Daemon v0.97, (c) 2003-2005 John Clemens Daemon to control the speed and voltage of cpus. This is a simple client to the CPUFreq driver, and uses linux kernel v2.5 sysfs interface. You need a supported cpu, and a kernel that supports sysfs to run this daemon. Sounds to me like it's GPL'd. It is controlled by Powernowd too, when I tried to overclock my CPU to around 3GHz it kept going back to 1.8GHz/1.2GHz until I disabled powernowd which in turn disabled the power saving. That's better than my desktop PC at work running XP which sometimes sounds like a jet engine taking off (it's a Dell Optiplex GX620 with a Pentium D 820 (2.8GHz) with power saving turned off in the BIOS). 2) Re-use. Ubuntu saves having to re-buy PCs... However, if the efficiency of the new PC means that it'll use less energy, surely there's an argument that upgrading the hardware is more environmentally efficient - we need some better data to support the ubuntu approach (if there is indeed one). Ubuntu can be used in a client/server environment just like Windows 2000/2003 Server. This is what I'm doing at a local community centre in Exeter. We're using a fairly mid spec Dell PowerEdge server with a new Intel Xeon Quadcore CPU (2.4Ghz) which will run Ubuntu (or possibly Edubuntu) with LTSP. The client machines are old K6/2 450 machines which according to the AMD specs use no more than about 36 watts. Add on the fact that they run completely over the network (no hard drives, no optical drives) they don't have any moving parts (apart from the CPU PSU fans) and save energy. They'll be attached to 19 TFT monitors. I'd say they'd use less than my desktop PC with it's hard drives and DVD drive in there. 3) Linux versus MS. Is there anything to suggest that linux boxes are more power efficient. This doesn't have to be at a hardware/software level either. More about policy and application. Linux boxes don't crash, so we never shut them down.. meaning they're never off. Discuss. Not sure on that, I'd say efficiency wise, they're probably about the same. I guess you could argue that Vista with all it's fancy effects requires a fairly decent spec CPU and graphics card whereas Ubuntu will run it's fancy effects on a much lower spec machine. With regards to never shutting the machines down, it depends on the user. Some people leave their machines on due to lazyness (I can think of a couple of people at work who do this), others leave them on because they run background apps. I guess both Linux and Windows when idle will use much less power plus put the screens into a standby mode. Not sure if anyone is aware, but next month is Green Month, at least it is on the One Network of radio stations (http://commercial.gcapmedia.com/index.php?id=8 - Gemini in Devon, BRMB in Birmingham, Red Dragon in Cardiff etc). In the stations we're trying to save energy by turning PCs off automatically at night (this is done through Active Directory), enabling power saving on newer PCs which support it, reminding everyone to turn off their monitors when not in use, combining PCs (such as legal logging machines which need to log output 24/7, these are being combined in some cases from two PCs to one), and even in some extreme cases turning off all the lights (including the lights in the toilet even when someone is in there). I'm coming in at a tangent, but would be interested to hear other people's perceptions of the 'Green-ness' of ubuntu - and some input from people who can give hard facts on the performance of ubuntu power management. See comments above. When we've installed the LTSP
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Brainstorm site
Interesting... http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ A digg/ dell idea storm type site.. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Brainstorm site
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 14:06 +, Alan Pope wrote: Interesting... http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ A digg/ dell idea storm type site.. Cheers, Al. It is indeed a funky piece of kit :) -- Seek That Thy Might Know signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] mame x
Hi, Not strictly a buntu Q! i read somewhere about mame x playing on xbox [which is connected to a buntu pc :) ]. how do i play mamex on a xbox? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Brainstorm site
Alan Pope wrote: Interesting... http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ A digg/ dell idea storm type site.. Cheers, Al. Submitted - or more accurately, resurrected - the dotUbuntu idea: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/88/ Let's see if it's got legs John -- John Levin http://www.technolalia.org/blog/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Brainstorm site
On 28/02/2008, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting... http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ A digg/ dell idea storm type site.. I'm just worried it will go the same way as the Number 10 Petition site, in that there may be some genuine good ideas, they will be lost in the swarthes of tat and duplication so the whole site loses effectiveness. -- Steve Garton http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Brainstorm site
On 2/28/08, Stephen Garton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/02/2008, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting... http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ A digg/ dell idea storm type site.. I'm just worried it will go the same way as the Number 10 Petition site, in that there may be some genuine good ideas, they will be lost in the swarthes of tat and duplication so the whole site loses effectiveness. -- Steve Garton http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ I can't seem to load the site in Internet Explorer...(am at uni and Firefox takes forever to load, whereas IE is super-fast). Oh well, keeps those prying proprietary eyes away from our ideas I suppose. The site looks like a good idea, but like Steve I'm not sure it won't get flooded with rubbish. What happens when lots of people vote something up high and get ignored (for whatever reason)? -- Josh Blacker -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mame x
Javad Ayaz wrote: Hi, Not strictly a buntu Q! i read somewhere about mame x playing on xbox [which is connected to a buntu pc :) ]. how do i play mamex on a xbox? First of all you need a mod chip (or software mod), then you need to download the executable (do a google search for this - keyword is xbins). When you have mameox (Mameox is the one to go for), FTP it over to the XBOX and then copy over some mame roms (available separately). That should be enough to get you started. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Brainstorm site
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 18:21 +, Josh Blacker wrote: On 2/28/08, Stephen Garton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/02/2008, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting... http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ A digg/ dell idea storm type site.. I'm just worried it will go the same way as the Number 10 Petition site, in that there may be some genuine good ideas, they will be lost in the swarthes of tat and duplication so the whole site loses effectiveness. -- Steve Garton http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ I can't seem to load the site in Internet Explorer...(am at uni and Firefox takes forever to load, whereas IE is super-fast). Oh well, keeps those prying proprietary eyes away from our ideas I suppose. The site looks like a good idea, but like Steve I'm not sure it won't get flooded with rubbish. What happens when lots of people vote something up high and get ignored (for whatever reason)? -- Josh Blacker I suspect it will get used for a few days, then get forgotten about. Cheers Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Media Centre Functionality
Folks As the Audio Description service on digital TV seems to be becoming more widespread on broadcasts these days, I was wondering if anyone knew of any media centre application that dealt with AD. So far everything I found seems to be around digiboxes and Sky boxes, but I haven't as yet found any PC TV / Media cards that support this feature or software that can deal with it unless of course you know something different? Cheers E Audio Description is where a visually impaired viewer gets extra audio information to describe things like body language, movement of people etc during a TV program. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Media Centre Functionality
Ian Pascoe wrote: So far everything I found seems to be around digiboxes and Sky boxes, but I haven't as yet found any PC TV / Media cards that support this feature or software that can deal with it unless of course you know something different? IIRC on DVB the audio description is carried as a secondary audio channel in the same way that other languages are carried on multilingual channels such as EuroNews. Ergo any program that can select separate audio channels should work. To test DVB-S software on the Astra 28 East constellation of satellites (ie. Sky/Freesat), just tune to EuroNews and select a foreign language. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Media Centre Functionality
Ian Pascoe wrote: Folks As the Audio Description service on digital TV seems to be becoming more widespread on broadcasts these days, I was wondering if anyone knew of any media centre application that dealt with AD. So far everything I found seems to be around digiboxes and Sky boxes, but I haven't as yet found any PC TV / Media cards that support this feature or software that can deal with it unless of course you know something different? Cheers E Audio Description is where a visually impaired viewer gets extra audio information to describe things like body language, movement of people etc during a TV program. I may be wrong, but I would have thought that it would be an extra audio stream in the MPEG stream. I'm sure Mplayer would be able to play this alternative audio stream (a bit like multiple audio streams on DVDs), assuming you have the hardware to capture the MPEG streams (Freeview card or something). What programmes support it now? I've got the feature on my TV with integrated Freeview although every time I try it I just get silence (although it does say English Audio Descriptive as the language). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mame x
and what if i want to run it of a dvd? mameox is xbox specific? regards javad On 28/02/2008, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Javad Ayaz wrote: Hi, Not strictly a buntu Q! i read somewhere about mame x playing on xbox [which is connected to a buntu pc :) ]. how do i play mamex on a xbox? First of all you need a mod chip (or software mod), then you need to download the executable (do a google search for this - keyword is xbins). When you have mameox (Mameox is the one to go for), FTP it over to the XBOX and then copy over some mame roms (available separately). That should be enough to get you started. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Brainstorm site
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 07:35:41PM +, Paul Mellors wrote: I suspect it will get used for a few days, then get forgotten about. Not if I have anything to do with it :) I'll be helping to admin the site when it comes back after being hit by all the people coming from digg and wired :) Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mame x
Javad Ayaz wrote: and what if i want to run it of a dvd? mameox is xbox specific? regards javad Mameox is Mame specific, it's an XBOX .xbe executable. You could run it off a DVD, you'd just need to make an XBOX ISO image (instructions are available on the internet). You could however run Linux on the XBOX and run Mame on that (and compile something like SDLMAME). Not tried it myself though. Linux isn't working on my XBOX since I upgraded the telly and started using Component Video. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where are we with Green?
alan c wrote: I wondered if this applied to my vanilla desktop so I opened a terminal and typed powernowd the response: powernowd: PowerNow Daemon v0.97, (c) 2003-2006 John Clemens Go away, you are not root. Only root can run me. made me smile :-) Not only is is green, but it has Attitude! Yep it's also a real pain in the neck if you want to overclock your CPU like I do. I decided I'd stay green and run at a slower speed for now rather than jump through hoops to configure an alternative daemon to save power. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu based Community centre in Exeter - the latest
Hi folks, I'm not sure if you remember (or I might have been dreaming) that I mentioned about a project I was involved with in getting an LTSP installation installed in a localish Community Centre? Well, the project seems to be really taking shape now. We've worked out what we think we need (couple of network switches, cables, monitors, server etc) and applied for the funding from the local radio station charity and been provisionally accepted. It's turned out to be a fair bit more expensive than I originally anticipated. I figured it would be around £1000 for the monitors, keyboards, mice, network cards, switches and a server. The problem with this was specific requirements of being able to put the machines away (Trevor who is the Chair of the Community Centre has come up with a novel idea for hiding the machines using kitchen units!), and the server spec has increased somewhat from a basic Athlon X2 up to a Dell PowerEdge server (that cost £1000 alone). We're hoping that the new computer suite will attract visitors of all ages from the community. The local Age Concern group hold regular events at the centre and other groups such as mother and baby groups are held there too so hopefully in the future these visitors of all ages will be able to sit down with a cup of tea/coffee and actually have a go at using t'internet and possibly even learn how to use office applications (using OpenOffice.org), graphics editing (using The Gimp) and other computer related things. Although the OS the server will run hasn't been finally decided, we're probably going to use Ubuntu or Edubuntu. I wasn't sure if it was possible to have Ubuntu/Kubuntu on the same machine without having menu entries from each desktop system appear (for instance, when I last installed KDE on my Ubuntu machine I got a whole load of KDE apps and applets appear in the Other menu on my Gnome Applications menu). If anyone knows how to get around this it would be handy. We could then offer the choice of desktops. The internet connection will be provided by an existing BT Broadband connection which was provided as a grant by BT. I'm planning on putting in a firewall box (probably IPCop or something) running DansGuardian and Squid to filter out any potentially non-friendly sites. The client machines themselves will all be recycled old machines made around 1998 with AMD K6/2 450MHz processors with about 64/128MB each, they will boot from Compact Flash to IDE adaptors using Etherboot (unfortunately the smallest CF card I could find was 1GB, very overkill!) The firewall will probably be something a little speedier - a K6/2 500 with 256MB memory and twin 10GB hard drives in a software raid array :-) I'll post up some pictures when we've made some more progress. Cabling is starting on Saturday (I'm recording a video of this, kind of like a promo for LTSP and Ubuntu), we're hoping (depending on getting the funding officially confirmed) to have it all installed and up and running by the end of March, and if it works out we'll use the centre for the Ubuntu 8.04 Launch Day Party in Exeter (the server will eventually be upgraded to 8.04, after the launch, last thing we want is a broken server at the launch party!). Anyway, thought you all might be interested. It's been a great project so far. There's been talk of possibly installing other LTSP setups in Torquay (yes, home of Basil Faulty) and also in a cafe in Exeter. There was also even talk of a big computer centre using LTSP in Devon although that's probably a way off yet (I want to start small, my other half isn't that understanding about me taking up my spare time playing with Linux boxes!). I'd say if you have chance to do something similar in your area, maybe for a local youth club, scout group etc and can get some sort of funding, or a donation of old machines then it's a great way of getting the word out about Ubuntu. Sure I can talk about it to people all day but it's even better if they can see it running :-) Phew, right, got to get on with the washing up now. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Brainstorm site
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 07:35:41PM +, Paul Mellors wrote: I suspect it will get used for a few days, then get forgotten about. Not if I have anything to do with it :) I'll be helping to admin the site when it comes back after being hit by all the people coming from digg and wired :) Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ I've signed up to the site. I like the concept and have already voted up a few of the better ideas. It'll be interesting to see how the site develops, I'm especially interested in how archiving of the ideas will work - how long they stay on the front page, and where they go once they've been actioned etc. Hopefully the site will prove to be a good tool for the community :) Good job everyone involved. Philip -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Brainstorm site
Alan Pope wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 07:35:41PM +, Paul Mellors wrote: I suspect it will get used for a few days, then get forgotten about. Not if I have anything to do with it :) I'll be helping to admin the site when it comes back after being hit by all the people coming from digg and wired :) Cheers, Al. Slashdot too: http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/08/02/28/2029218.shtml I can see the suggestions flooding in now: Get rid of the brown! Ubuntu Beowolf cluster edition Cowboy Neal installed by default More missing options ducks John -- John Levin http://www.technolalia.org/blog/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu based Community centre in Exeter - the latest
Not sure about the menu entries on a KDE/Gnome install, but there's presumably no reason at all why you couldn't dual boot two installations? The client machines themselves will all be recycled old machines made around 1998 with AMD K6/2 450MHz processors with about 64/128MB each, they will boot from Compact Flash to IDE adaptors using Etherboot (unfortunately the smallest CF card I could find was 1GB, very overkill!) Not sure that 128MB will be enough for Ubuntu/Kubuntu. I'd have thought that you were into Xubuntu territory there... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu based Community centre in Exeter - the latest
Sean Miller wrote: Not sure about the menu entries on a KDE/Gnome install, but there's presumably no reason at all why you couldn't dual boot two installations? The client machines themselves will all be recycled old machines made around 1998 with AMD K6/2 450MHz processors with about 64/128MB each, they will boot from Compact Flash to IDE adaptors using Etherboot (unfortunately the smallest CF card I could find was 1GB, very overkill!) Not sure that 128MB will be enough for Ubuntu/Kubuntu. I'd have thought that you were into Xubuntu territory there... Sean It's using LTSP on the server so the clients will be booting up a basic kernel, X and then running the programs on the server side (you can actually get away with a Pentium 120 with 32MB memory). The great thing about it is because the server is a quad core 2.4GHz Xeon with 4GB memory it will handle the actual running of the apps. This will give you an idea of what I mean (although we're using a fixed installation rather than a mobile LTSP installation) - http://flakey.info/hesfes05/ Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
