Re: [ubuntu-uk] React OS- Virtual Box

2008-06-20 Thread Sean Miller
See http://www.virtlinux.com/

ReactOS is one of the images.  Might save you some time :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] React OS- Virtual Box

2008-06-20 Thread Javad Ayaz
Cool, that will help

Thanks Sean :)


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 See http://www.virtlinux.com/

 ReactOS is one of the images.  Might save you some time :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] React OS- Virtual Box

2008-06-20 Thread Michael Holloway
Does anyone know how well this works? I think i tried it ages ago (might
have been a different [clone]) but it was very very alpha at the time. 

I see that further down the page they say they will go into beta for 0.5
(and they are current only 0.3.4), so i doubt that its very stable at
all.

Javad, please let us/me know how you get on with it :)



On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 08:01 +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote:
 Hi,
  
 Im just wondering if i will able to run this on virtualbox in Ubuntu?
  
 http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html
  
 I think this is a replica windows os .so if there are any must
 have apps that you have to use in windows can now be used in this!!!
  
 Thoughts?
  
 Regards
  
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] React OS- Virtual Box

2008-06-20 Thread Javad Ayaz
i will post my findings on here later on for everyones benefit



On 20/06/2008, Michael Holloway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know how well this works? I think i tried it ages ago (might
 have been a different [clone]) but it was very very alpha at the time.

 I see that further down the page they say they will go into beta for 0.5
 (and they are current only 0.3.4), so i doubt that its very stable at
 all.

 Javad, please let us/me know how you get on with it :)



 On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 08:01 +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Im just wondering if i will able to run this on virtualbox in Ubuntu?
 
  http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html
 
  I think this is a replica windows os .so if there are any must
  have apps that you have to use in windows can now be used in this!!!
 
  Thoughts?
 
  Regards
 
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[ubuntu-uk] How do I know when to reboot after upgrading Ubuntu Server?

2008-06-20 Thread Andrew Oakley

On the Hardy desktop, the update notification icon handily tells me when 
I need to reboot my desktop for the updates to take effect.

I also run another machine, a Hardy Server with no GUI.

After I have performed apt-get update  apt-get dist-upgrade on the 
server, how do I know whether or not I need to reboot please?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] How do I know when to reboot after upgrading Ubuntu Server?

2008-06-20 Thread Michael Holloway
If you are doing a kernel upgrade you need to reboot. Any other updates
don't need a reboot, however you may need to restart the relevant
program that has been updated.



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 On the Hardy desktop, the update notification icon handily tells me when 
 I need to reboot my desktop for the updates to take effect.
 
 I also run another machine, a Hardy Server with no GUI.
 
 After I have performed apt-get update  apt-get dist-upgrade on the 
 server, how do I know whether or not I need to reboot please?
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

2008-06-20 Thread John Taylor
Ted wrote:
 John Taylor wrote:
   
 Andrew Oakley wrote:
   
 
 Ted wrote:
   
 
   
 John Taylor wrote:
 
   
 
 Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
 **??!! cube
   
 
   
 In General Settings do you have number of desktops set to 2...I have 
 Horizontal size 4, vert size 1 and number of desktops 2
 
   
 
 Correct answer.

 The geometry of the pivoting (rotating) desktop virtualiser in Compiz 
 is related directly to the number of horizontal sides. In Ubuntu this 
 defaults to 2, which gives you a geometric plane with a front and back.

 A cube has 4 workspaces (horizontal sides) plus a top cap and bottom cap.

 An easy way of setting this whilst Compiz is running, is to right-click 
 the Workspace Switcher on your Gnome panel, select Preferences and 
 change the number of Columns (to 4, for a cube; total 6 sides when you 
 include the top cap and bottom cap).

 There are other possibilities, such as an extruded triangle (3 
 workspaces), extruded pentangle (5 workspaces), extruded hexagon (6 
 workspaces) and so forth. I got up to at least 12 workspaces (extruded 
 dodecagon) before I got bored, and both the Intel i965 and Nvidia 
 GeForce2 graphics cards coped fine with that. If there is an upper 
 limit, it must be a pretty silly one.

 For ease of use, I typically set my number of virtual desktops to the 
 same as the number of workspaces of my cube. In that way, if I ever 
 switch Compiz Fusion off (or it crashes - which rarely happens these 
 days), I still have the same number of desktops.

 I am entirely uncertain what effect the Rows preference has in the 
 Compiz Workspace Switcher. I can't see that it does anything at all, or 
 at least not with the Compiz Cube.

   
 
   
 Thanks Chaps, simple when you know how, will play for hours!

 Regards

 John

   
 
 John..
 The sphere looks good...

   
Where are these round objects can't see them

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] How do I know when to reboot after upgrading Ubuntu Server?

2008-06-20 Thread Daniel Lamb
It will come up at the end of the upgrade it should come up with restart 
now, I usually upgrade my servers with sudo do-release-upgrade.

It always comes up with restart at the end.

If you have started with with ssh and closed the session you may need to 
run sudo dpkg --configure -a as some packages will have options which 
you will need to answer. Then once it is finished reboot the box.

Regards,
Daniel

Andrew Oakley wrote:
 On the Hardy desktop, the update notification icon handily tells me when 
 I need to reboot my desktop for the updates to take effect.

 I also run another machine, a Hardy Server with no GUI.

 After I have performed apt-get update  apt-get dist-upgrade on the 
 server, how do I know whether or not I need to reboot please?

   

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[ubuntu-uk] Migrating between distros

2008-06-20 Thread Sean Miller
Hi,

I have this laptop running Mandriva...  in the normal Ubuntu install
situation I'd effectively wipe off Mandriva and replace it with the
new OS, but is there any alternative?

In other words, could I migrate from Mandriva to Hardy without wiping
out my webserver, home directories etc. as that is what I'd prefer to
do.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Migrating between distros

2008-06-20 Thread Daniel Lamb
Are the home directories on a separate partition? If not you could move 
them to a separate partition or an external hard drive I guess.

Regards,
Daniel

Sean Miller wrote:
 Hi,

 I have this laptop running Mandriva...  in the normal Ubuntu install
 situation I'd effectively wipe off Mandriva and replace it with the
 new OS, but is there any alternative?

 In other words, could I migrate from Mandriva to Hardy without wiping
 out my webserver, home directories etc. as that is what I'd prefer to
 do.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Migrating between distros

2008-06-20 Thread Sean Miller
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Daniel Lamb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are the home directories on a separate partition? If not you could move
 them to a separate partition or an external hard drive I guess.

That's what I'll do if needs must, but I thought I'd ask the question,
just in case there's any cunning way to install the OS without wiping
out the volatile data

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Migrating between distros

2008-06-20 Thread Mac
Sean Miller wrote:
 In other words, could I migrate from Mandriva to Hardy without wiping
 out my webserver, home directories etc. as that is what I'd prefer to
 do.

Sean  If you've got your /home on a separate partition, you can 
preserve that during the install by choosing not to format it.  Ditto 
for anything else that's in a separate partition (though you do have to 
be aware that any config files you preserve unaltered may not be right).

Mac





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[ubuntu-uk] unwanted information

2008-06-20 Thread norman
Before updating to 8.04, when I shut down my computer I had a screen
with a bar showing the progress of the process. Now I get screen after
screen detailing what is happening followed by a screen with the empty
bar slot and nothing else before the computer switches off.

Can anyone suggest how I can suppress all the information, which I do
not understand and just get the bar showing progress, please.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

2008-06-20 Thread Ted
John Taylor wrote:
 Ted wrote:
   
 John Taylor wrote:
   
 
 Andrew Oakley wrote:
   
 
   
 Ted wrote:
   
 
   
 
 John Taylor wrote:
 
   
 
   
 Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
 **??!! cube
   
 
   
 
 In General Settings do you have number of desktops set to 2...I have 
 Horizontal size 4, vert size 1 and number of desktops 2
 
   
 
   
 Correct answer.

 The geometry of the pivoting (rotating) desktop virtualiser in Compiz 
 is related directly to the number of horizontal sides. In Ubuntu this 
 defaults to 2, which gives you a geometric plane with a front and back.

 A cube has 4 workspaces (horizontal sides) plus a top cap and bottom cap.

 An easy way of setting this whilst Compiz is running, is to right-click 
 the Workspace Switcher on your Gnome panel, select Preferences and 
 change the number of Columns (to 4, for a cube; total 6 sides when you 
 include the top cap and bottom cap).

 There are other possibilities, such as an extruded triangle (3 
 workspaces), extruded pentangle (5 workspaces), extruded hexagon (6 
 workspaces) and so forth. I got up to at least 12 workspaces (extruded 
 dodecagon) before I got bored, and both the Intel i965 and Nvidia 
 GeForce2 graphics cards coped fine with that. If there is an upper 
 limit, it must be a pretty silly one.

 For ease of use, I typically set my number of virtual desktops to the 
 same as the number of workspaces of my cube. In that way, if I ever 
 switch Compiz Fusion off (or it crashes - which rarely happens these 
 days), I still have the same number of desktops.

 I am entirely uncertain what effect the Rows preference has in the 
 Compiz Workspace Switcher. I can't see that it does anything at all, or 
 at least not with the Compiz Cube.

   
 
   
 
 Thanks Chaps, simple when you know how, will play for hours!

 Regards

 John

   
 
   
 John..
 The sphere looks good...

   
 
 Where are these round objects can't see them

 John

   
Settings manager cube reflection  deformation deformation..

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] React OS- Virtual Box

2008-06-20 Thread Kris Douglas
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i will post my findings on here later on for everyones benefit


 On 20/06/2008, Michael Holloway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know how well this works? I think i tried it ages ago (might
 have been a different [clone]) but it was very very alpha at the time.

 I see that further down the page they say they will go into beta for 0.5
 (and they are current only 0.3.4), so i doubt that its very stable at
 all.

 Javad, please let us/me know how you get on with it :)



 On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 08:01 +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Im just wondering if i will able to run this on virtualbox in Ubuntu?
 
  http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html
 
  I think this is a replica windows os .so if there are any must
  have apps that you have to use in windows can now be used in this!!!
 
  Thoughts?
 
  Regards
 
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rOS is actually fairly stable for some apps, but overall, it's not a
production OS, and It doesn't really run any software that doesn't run
on Wine or native Linux better...

The basic idea of rOS is to replace a whole Linux distro running wine,
with something that can run Windows apps natively but is freely
available, standalone and small.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] React OS- Virtual Box

2008-06-20 Thread Javad Ayaz
so theoretically i should be able to run a windows only app on rOS without
much fuss?

On 20/06/2008, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i will post my findings on here later on for everyones benefit
 
 
  On 20/06/2008, Michael Holloway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Does anyone know how well this works? I think i tried it ages ago (might
  have been a different [clone]) but it was very very alpha at the time.
 
  I see that further down the page they say they will go into beta for 0.5
  (and they are current only 0.3.4), so i doubt that its very stable at
  all.
 
  Javad, please let us/me know how you get on with it :)
 
 
 
  On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 08:01 +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Im just wondering if i will able to run this on virtualbox in Ubuntu?
  
   http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html
  
   I think this is a replica windows os .so if there are any must
   have apps that you have to use in windows can now be used in this!!!
  
   Thoughts?
  
   Regards
  
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 rOS is actually fairly stable for some apps, but overall, it's not a
 production OS, and It doesn't really run any software that doesn't run
 on Wine or native Linux better...

 The basic idea of rOS is to replace a whole Linux distro running wine,
 with something that can run Windows apps natively but is freely
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

2008-06-20 Thread John Taylor
Ted wrote:
 John Taylor wrote:
   
 Ted wrote:
   
 
 John Taylor wrote:
   
 
   
 Andrew Oakley wrote:
   
 
   
 
 Ted wrote:
   
 
   
 
   
 John Taylor wrote:
 
   
 
   
 
 Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
 **??!! cube
   
 
   
 
   
 In General Settings do you have number of desktops set to 2...I have 
 Horizontal size 4, vert size 1 and number of desktops 2
 
   
 
   
 
 Correct answer.

 The geometry of the pivoting (rotating) desktop virtualiser in Compiz 
 is related directly to the number of horizontal sides. In Ubuntu this 
 defaults to 2, which gives you a geometric plane with a front and back.

 A cube has 4 workspaces (horizontal sides) plus a top cap and bottom cap.

 An easy way of setting this whilst Compiz is running, is to right-click 
 the Workspace Switcher on your Gnome panel, select Preferences and 
 change the number of Columns (to 4, for a cube; total 6 sides when you 
 include the top cap and bottom cap).

 There are other possibilities, such as an extruded triangle (3 
 workspaces), extruded pentangle (5 workspaces), extruded hexagon (6 
 workspaces) and so forth. I got up to at least 12 workspaces (extruded 
 dodecagon) before I got bored, and both the Intel i965 and Nvidia 
 GeForce2 graphics cards coped fine with that. If there is an upper 
 limit, it must be a pretty silly one.

 For ease of use, I typically set my number of virtual desktops to the 
 same as the number of workspaces of my cube. In that way, if I ever 
 switch Compiz Fusion off (or it crashes - which rarely happens these 
 days), I still have the same number of desktops.

 I am entirely uncertain what effect the Rows preference has in the 
 Compiz Workspace Switcher. I can't see that it does anything at all, or 
 at least not with the Compiz Cube.

   
 
   
 
   
 Thanks Chaps, simple when you know how, will play for hours!

 Regards

 John

   
 
   
 
 John..
 The sphere looks good...

   
 
   
 Where are these round objects can't see them

 John

   
 
 Settings manager cube reflection  deformation deformation..

   
Help have lost control of Seamonkey the top of its header disappears 
under the top icon bar of screen and I can't shift it in any 
direction.doesn't happen to any other programme

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[ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

2008-06-20 Thread John Taylor
Help

The top of SeaMonkey now disappears under the top icon bar of screen and 
I can't shift it in any direction; nothing else is 
affected.any ideas?

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[ubuntu-uk] [ADMIN] A polite request

2008-06-20 Thread Alan Pope
Can everyone please take a second before hitting Send to trim replies.
We're getting a lot of mails on the list which contain one or two lines
of reply followed by a bazillion lines from the thread.

For those of us who download mail over pay-per-byte connections such as
3G, this really matters. Many thanks.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

2008-06-20 Thread Sean Miller
Hide the top bar is my only suggestion can do that by right
clicking on the bar, Properties and Show Hide Buttons... you'll then
get nice   things at each side that allows you to hide the bar.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

2008-06-20 Thread John Taylor
Sean Miller wrote:
 Hide the top bar is my only suggestion can do that by right
 clicking on the bar, Properties and Show Hide Buttons... you'll then
 get nice   things at each side that allows you to hide the bar.

 Sean

   
Many thanks, sanity returns

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

2008-06-20 Thread Stuart Bird
The top of SeaMonkey now disappears under the top icon bar of screen and 
I can't shift it in any direction; nothing else is 
affected.any ideas?

Hold down the 'alt' key and drag the window down with your left mouse button. 
Then resize the window to fit just less than the available screen area.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] React OS- Virtual Box

2008-06-20 Thread Michael Holloway
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 13:12 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote:
 
 Any app that is stable in wine... _should_... be stable in rOS.

I am trying the VMware image as we speak... so far i have had to restart
the machine about 5 times. It freezes at the most random times. I have
managed to get firefox installed, but nothing else yet...

I don't really think its ready for any real use...


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] React OS- Virtual Box

2008-06-20 Thread Michael Holloway
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 13:20 +0100, Michael Holloway wrote:
 I am trying the VMware image as we speak... so far i have had to restart
 the machine about 5 times. It freezes at the most random times. I have
 managed to get firefox installed, but nothing else yet...
 
 I don't really think its ready for any real use...
 

Haha, and I just got a Blue Screen of Death! Oh how I don't miss those!

I feel somewhat dirty using it, when I got to the Firefox download page
it detects that I'm using windows!

I think that as far as windows compatibility goes, wine is still the
best. And they have just released version 1.0 (http://www.winehq.org/)
so I imagine that will be in Intrepid. 

In any case, the version in Hardy is pretty stable, and runs WoW!


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

2008-06-20 Thread LeeGroups

 The top of SeaMonkey now disappears under the top icon bar of screen and
 I can't shift it in any direction; nothing else is
 affected.any ideas?


 Hold down the 'alt' key and drag the window down with your left mouse 
 button. Then resize the window to fit just less than the available 
 screen area.

Yes, that's a a quick fix, but this bug has been around since Edgy, 
though it seems to be happening less and less often.
I've only seen it happen once under Hardy...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] React OS- Virtual Box

2008-06-20 Thread Kris Douglas
 I think that as far as windows compatibility goes, wine is still the
 best. And they have just released version 1.0 (http://www.winehq.org/)
 so I imagine that will be in Intrepid.

 In any case, the version in Hardy is pretty stable, and runs WoW!

If you actually poke around, you will find that the ReactOS team are
working quite closely with the Wine team, as they are basing much of
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[ubuntu-uk] [IMPORTANT] Ubuntu UK Bug Jam?

2008-06-20 Thread Alan Pope
Hi,

You may have seen this [0] announcement from Jono about the upcoming
Global Ubuntu Bug Jam, this August 8th through 10th (Friday to Sunday). 

If you don't know what a Bug Jam is then I suggest you follow the links
contained in both Jonos and Daniels [1] messages to the LoCo contacts
mailing list.

Questions:-

1) Anyone fancy helping run a Bug Jam in the UK?
2) Shall we have more than one at various places around the UK?
3) Suggestions for venues which can accommodate a number of people over
that period?
4) If we have enough people does it make sense to have another Jam at
the same time/venue - a packaging jam, wiki cleanup jam, documentation
jam or launchpad answers jam for example? Suggestions for other jams..?

m Jam... http://drool.popey.com/ 

Quick points:-

* Anyone can get involved, you don't need to be a coder.
* We don't have any locations in mind at the moment, but will of course
start asking around.
* Would be good to tie this up with a social meet up on the Friday
and/or the Saturday night, given we as a group don't get together too
often.

Discuss!

Cheers,
Al.


[0]
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] React OS- Virtual Box

2008-06-20 Thread Javad Ayaz
at this point ive installed virtualbox and also emulated what the video
shows in their tutorials section!

But now im getting some error messages. A little scouring on the web shows
its not actually possible to run reactos on virtualbox.someone here might
defer???

I get this error

The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make
sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to
the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take
effect..
VBox status code: -1909 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_ACCESSIBLE).


Result Code:
0x80004005
Component:
Console
Interface:
IConsole {1dea5c4b-0753-4193-b909-22330f64ec45}

Any ideas please?



2008/6/20 Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  I think that as far as windows compatibility goes, wine is still the
  best. And they have just released version 1.0 (http://www.winehq.org/)
  so I imagine that will be in Intrepid.
 
  In any case, the version in Hardy is pretty stable, and runs WoW!

 If you actually poke around, you will find that the ReactOS team are
 working quite closely with the Wine team, as they are basing much of
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] React OS- Virtual Box

2008-06-20 Thread Rob Beard
Javad Ayaz wrote:
 at this point ive installed virtualbox and also emulated what the video 
 shows in their tutorials section!
 
 But now im getting some error messages. A little scouring on the web 
 shows its not actually possible to run reactos on virtualbox.someone 
 here might defer???
 

snip

You need to go into Users and Computers (click System, Administration, 
Users and Groups if you're running Gnome).

Click the Unlock button and enter your password (if you're running 
Hardy, otherwise you should be asked for your password before Users and 
Groups opens).

Click Manage Groups.  Select the vboxusers group from the list and 
select properites.

Another box should appear with a list of users.  Click the tick box by 
your user name and then click OK.

Click Close and the Close again.

Now log off and log back in or restart your PC.  You should then be able 
to run Virtual Box.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] React OS- Virtual Box

2008-06-20 Thread Javad Ayaz
indeed i was able to.

it logs in...I see some code running up the screen. when this happens the
little hard drive and cd icons blink ...showing activityAnd then nothing
i get a blank screen.


I would like to point out that i have the iso file of live cd of reactos on
my desktop and running it from there!!!

Can someone give me some pointers?

Regards

Javad



2008/6/20 Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Javad Ayaz wrote:
  at this point ive installed virtualbox and also emulated what the video
  shows in their tutorials section!
 
  But now im getting some error messages. A little scouring on the web
  shows its not actually possible to run reactos on virtualbox.someone
  here might defer???
 

 snip

 You need to go into Users and Computers (click System, Administration,
 Users and Groups if you're running Gnome).

 Click the Unlock button and enter your password (if you're running
 Hardy, otherwise you should be asked for your password before Users and
 Groups opens).

 Click Manage Groups.  Select the vboxusers group from the list and
 select properites.

 Another box should appear with a list of users.  Click the tick box by
 your user name and then click OK.

 Click Close and the Close again.

 Now log off and log back in or restart your PC.  You should then be able
 to run Virtual Box.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [IMPORTANT] Ubuntu UK Bug Jam?

2008-06-20 Thread John Levin
Alan Pope wrote:
 Hi,
 
 You may have seen this [0] announcement from Jono about the upcoming
 Global Ubuntu Bug Jam, this August 8th through 10th (Friday to Sunday). 
 
 If you don't know what a Bug Jam is then I suggest you follow the links
 contained in both Jonos and Daniels [1] messages to the LoCo contacts
 mailing list.
 
 Questions:-
 
 1) Anyone fancy helping run a Bug Jam in the UK?

yes

 2) Shall we have more than one at various places around the UK?

yes; I'm tired of arguments over where an event should be. So, London 
yes, and wherever else there are people to make it happen.

 3) Suggestions for venues which can accommodate a number of people over
 that period?

Will put my thinking cap on, but first we need an idea of numbers, and 
necessary facilities

 4) If we have enough people does it make sense to have another Jam at
 the same time/venue - a packaging jam, wiki cleanup jam, documentation
 jam or launchpad answers jam for example? Suggestions for other jams..?
 

Marmalade.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Migrating between distros

2008-06-20 Thread HillarP
Sean Miller wrote:

 I have this laptop running Mandriva...  in the normal Ubuntu install
 situation I'd effectively wipe off Mandriva and replace it with the
 new OS, but is there any alternative?
 
 In other words, could I migrate from Mandriva to Hardy without wiping
 out my webserver, home directories etc. as that is what I'd prefer to
 do.

I assume, that you have default installation of Mandriva. In that case you
have 3 partitions - system, home and swap. Mandriva keeps his webserver
things under the /var/www (in system partition). So do next: backup
the /var/www to the /home partition. In case that you run any databases,
make their dump also to the /home partition. If yo want to keep your users
make sure that you backup four files from /etc - group, gshadow, passwd and
shadow.

Install new OS and make sure, that you reformat your system partition but
don't touch your home. On installation show that you have system, swap and
home partitions (point to the right partitions). When istallation complete
restore your /var/www and modify those four files under /etc (any text
editor will do).

Notify:
Real users on Mandriva starts from 500 but on (K)Ubuntu (commonly on Debian)
from 1000. Mandriva webserver user:group is apache:apache but on (K)Ubuntu
(commonly on Debian) it is www-data:www-data. So you have to correct your
users/permissions in those four files and/or on filesystem.

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[ubuntu-uk] Copying files from a reiser3 partition to LVM problem

2008-06-20 Thread Mark Allison
Hi there,

I have a frustrating issue.

I have three disks in my Ubuntu 8.04 home server configured as follows:

 df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda2 7.8G  2.5G  5.1G  33% /
/dev/sdc1 466G  436G   31G  94% /var/lib/backuppc_old
/dev/mapper/backupvg-backuplv
  531G  531G   20K 100% /var/lib/backuppc

 mount
/dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
/dev/sdc1 on /var/lib/backuppc_old type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/mapper/backupvg-backuplv on /var/lib/backuppc type xfs (rw)

I am trying to copy all files from /var/lib/backuppc_old to
/var/lib/backuppc. When I copy the files, the /var/lib/backuppc
partition always fills up although it is 100GB bigger. I don't
understand why. /var/lib/backuppc_old is resierfs 3.6.19 set at
defaults when created. /var/lib/backuppc is an LVM partition and I
have tried creating ext3, reiser3 and xfs on the logical volume - but
they all fill up before the copy is complete.

Can anyone explain what's going on? I've spent hours and hours and
hours on this problem.

Thanks,
Mark.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Copying files from a reiser3 partition to LVM problem

2008-06-20 Thread Rob Beard
Mark Allison wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I have a frustrating issue.
snip

 I am trying to copy all files from /var/lib/backuppc_old to
 /var/lib/backuppc. When I copy the files, the /var/lib/backuppc
 partition always fills up although it is 100GB bigger. I don't
 understand why. /var/lib/backuppc_old is resierfs 3.6.19 set at
 defaults when created. /var/lib/backuppc is an LVM partition and I
 have tried creating ext3, reiser3 and xfs on the logical volume - but
 they all fill up before the copy is complete.
 
 Can anyone explain what's going on? I've spent hours and hours and
 hours on this problem.
 

I had this a couple of years back on a Linux backup server which I used 
to copy PC backups to.  Turns out it was because it was full of little 
files they took up lots of room.  Not sure if you have lots of smaller 
files on your disc that could be doing this.  Could you try tarring 
everything into one big tar file to see if it does the same thing?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] React OS- Virtual Box

2008-06-20 Thread Rob Beard
Javad Ayaz wrote:
 indeed i was able to.


That's a start :-)

 it logs in...I see some code running up the screen. when this happens 
 the little hard drive and cd icons blink ...showing activityAnd then 
 nothing i get a blank screen.

Does it come up with any messages to say it's loading ReactOS?


 I would like to point out that i have the iso file of live cd of reactos 
 on my desktop and running it from there!!!
 
 Can someone give me some pointers?

It might not be booting from CD, it could be set to something silly like 
boot from first virtual hard disk.

Technically it has it's own BIOS and act's as, well a PC.  You could try 
going into the virtual BIOS (can't remember if VirtualBox has a BIOS or 
not - I believe it does).  Try the DEL key, F2 or F12 when the Inno logo 
appears.  When you get into the BIOS try setting CD as the first boot 
device.

Sorry I can't suggest more, I haven't got VirtualBox installed at the 
moment or a ReactOS LiveCD handy.

Rob

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[ubuntu-uk] Sir Alan Sugar: it's too late for Linux

2008-06-20 Thread Josh Blacker
Something of an, er, interesting comment beginning 7:11 on this video:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7462104.stm

The rest of the video is pretty boring, including the preceding section
on 'Is Microsoft a monopoly?'.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] How do I know when to reboot after upgrading Ubuntu Server?

2008-06-20 Thread James Tait
 After I have performed apt-get update  apt-get dist-upgrade on the 
 server, how do I know whether or not I need to reboot please?

I believe you can check for the presence of /var/run/reboot-required.
It will be there after kernel upgrades, for example.

Cheers,

JT
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