[ubuntu-uk] Google Privacy

2008-08-01 Thread Jeff Fisher
Some on the list may not be aware that Google, for whatever reason, 
record all search originations. I would be interested to know if 
searches conducted through the Mozilla Ubuntu search plugin are subject 
to the same criteria as normal Google searches. Would anyone know if, as 
I suspect,  all searches are similarly recorded by Google?

TIA
Regards
Jeff Fisher


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Privacy

2008-08-01 Thread Ciaran Mooney
I know that they atleast record what program they have come from, as
the Mozilla Foundation get a couple of pennies each time a search is
sent from the built-in Firefox Google search.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Privacy

2008-08-01 Thread Adrian
Well complete privacy does not exist according to Google

http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/910/google-complete-privacy-does


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Privacy

2008-08-01 Thread Mac
Jeff Fisher wrote:
 Some on the list may not be aware that Google, for whatever reason, 
 record all search originations. I would be interested to know if 
 searches conducted through the Mozilla Ubuntu search plugin are subject 
 to the same criteria as normal Google searches. Would anyone know if, as 
 I suspect,  all searches are similarly recorded by Google?

AFAIR, Google log the originating IP addresses and details of the 
searches for all searches done through their servers, and keep the logs 
for two years.  They do the same for all their on-line services. And 
they reserve the right to data-mine the information you lodge with them, 
whether that is search data, Gmail mail, docs, calendars or whatever. 
They'll reveal your IP address only to law enforcement agencies for 
justifiable reasons;  but analysing all your data gives them a vast 
amount of saleable information about you, that can be used by Google and 
the organisations they sell their analyses to, for targetting adverts, 
services, campaigns, etc, to you without them having to let on exactly 
who you are.

And because we like the services they offer as a result of analysing our 
data, we ourselves agree to let them do this.  (Though I'm not entirely 
sure that everyone who signs up for Googlemail, Googledocs, Calendar or 
whatever realises that they are agreeing to let Google analyse their 
data and make commercial use of the results of those analyses.)

Mac




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Privacy

2008-08-01 Thread Mac
Mac wrote:
 AFAIR, Google log the originating IP addresses and details of the 
 searches for all searches done through their servers, and keep the logs 
 for two years.

Correction:  18 months.  Then they are anonymized.

Mac

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[ubuntu-uk] Did you get my invite?

2008-08-01 Thread Alfred Lakudzala
Hi,


Please join me 
http://invite.desktopdating.net/registration.php?tMXO39Ti1rzN1OiJw8nZ0+fg8pLu2cPp1+Lckdreq+DY49jUot7Q3NLZ6JnX3t3ihPKq2s3WyteLwNDb2cXuytrI4ojxzene6cXP6NXXzcml7Mzc3t+SxOOX49LiiPGL8pLuytPhm6LP1uOW6aafoJyOpKGbl5U=


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Did you get my invite?

2008-08-01 Thread Colin McCarthy
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Alfred Lakudzala
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Please join me

Ok, now that really is spam!  Should someone official speak to Alfred?
 And ask him to stop or unsubscribe him?

Colin

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Did you get my invite?

2008-08-01 Thread ptaylor
Colin McCarthy wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Alfred Lakudzala
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hi,

 Please join me
 

 Ok, now that really is spam!  Should someone official speak to Alfred?
  And ask him to stop or unsubscribe him?

 Colin

   
hi

thats definatly a good idea colin, we dont want trash ans spam on the
mailing lists.

philip

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Did you get my invite?

2008-08-01 Thread James Edwrd Grabham
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 03:05:56PM +0100, ptaylor wrote:
 Colin McCarthy wrote:
  On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Alfred Lakudzala
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Please join me
  
 
  Ok, now that really is spam!  Should someone official speak to Alfred?
   And ask him to stop or unsubscribe him?
 
  Colin
 

 hi
 
 thats definatly a good idea colin, we dont want trash ans spam on the
 mailing lists.
 
 philip
 
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It looks like it's from a bot, blocking it from the list is the logical 
course of action.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day

2008-08-01 Thread John Levin
Paul Broadhead wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm new to this list so hello everyone.  

Welcome aboard.

 I'm also new to bug jams so
 would there be room for a novice at this event?  

I should think many of us would be novices at this, so there really 
should be room.

 I'm a C/C++ developer
 on Linux and have some Python experience too if any of that helps.
 Either weekend day is OK for me.  I presume the suggested Pembury
 pub is the one in Hackney.

Yup, that's the one.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Did you get my invite?

2008-08-01 Thread Alan Pope
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 09:39 -0400, Alfred Lakudzala wrote:
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Please join me 
 
 
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[ubuntu-uk] IRC - does not connect

2008-08-01 Thread Mac
I thought I'd have a go with IRC.  I've set up an account in 
Xchat-gnome, but it does not make the connection.  All I get is

  Looking up irc.ubuntu.com..
  Connecting to chat.freenode.net (209.177.146.34) port 6667..

and then it just hangs.  I get the same thing with other channels;  and 
the same thing happens if I try using Pidgin.

I can't see anything in my router blocking IRC.  I know nothing about 
configuring IPtables, so these are in the default state AFAIK.  I've 
spent a good while searching the web, to no avail.

I'd be grateful for simple, specific advice about how to investigate / 
fix this.

TIA

Mac



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Privacy

2008-08-01 Thread Adam Funk
On 2008-08-01, Mac wrote:

 AFAIR, Google log the originating IP addresses and details of the 
 searches for all searches done through their servers, and keep the logs 
 for two years.  They do the same for all their on-line services. And 
 they reserve the right to data-mine the information you lodge with them, 
 whether that is search data, Gmail mail, docs, calendars or whatever. 
 They'll reveal your IP address only to law enforcement agencies for 
 justifiable reasons;  but analysing all your data gives them a vast 

Google has that policy now, but there's nothing to stop it from
disclosing data in the future.  If the company went into receivership,
those logs would be assets worth selling.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IRC - does not connect

2008-08-01 Thread Mac
Mac wrote:
 I thought I'd have a go with IRC.  I've set up an account in 
 Xchat-gnome, but it does not make the connection.  All I get is
 
   Looking up irc.ubuntu.com..
   Connecting to chat.freenode.net (209.177.146.34) port 6667..
 
 and then it just hangs.  I get the same thing with other channels;  and 
 the same thing happens if I try using Pidgin.
 


Sorry for double post, but it may help to know that I can do

  ping chat.freenode.net
PING chat.freenode.net (154.35.200.44) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from card.freenode.net (154.35.200.44): icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 
time=112 ms
64 bytes from card.freenode.net (154.35.200.44): icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 
time=111 ms
64 bytes from card.freenode.net (154.35.200.44): icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 
time=113 ms

Mac

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IRC - does not connect

2008-08-01 Thread Jake Bunce
Do you have any firewall rules that may be blocking IRC?

2008/8/1 Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Mac wrote:
  I thought I'd have a go with IRC.  I've set up an account in
  Xchat-gnome, but it does not make the connection.  All I get is
 
Looking up irc.ubuntu.com..
Connecting to chat.freenode.net (209.177.146.34) port 6667..
 
  and then it just hangs.  I get the same thing with other channels;  and
  the same thing happens if I try using Pidgin.
 


 Sorry for double post, but it may help to know that I can do

  ping chat.freenode.net
 PING chat.freenode.net (154.35.200.44) 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from card.freenode.net (154.35.200.44): icmp_seq=1 ttl=51
 time=112 ms
 64 bytes from card.freenode.net (154.35.200.44): icmp_seq=2 ttl=51
 time=111 ms
 64 bytes from card.freenode.net (154.35.200.44): icmp_seq=3 ttl=51
 time=113 ms

 Mac

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IRC - does not connect

2008-08-01 Thread Stephen Hildrey
Mac wrote:
 Mac wrote:
 I thought I'd have a go with IRC.  I've set up an account in 
 Xchat-gnome, but it does not make the connection.  All I get is

   Looking up irc.ubuntu.com..
   Connecting to chat.freenode.net (209.177.146.34) port 6667..

 and then it just hangs.  I get the same thing with other channels;  and 
 the same thing happens if I try using Pidgin.

 
 
 Sorry for double post, but it may help to know that I can do
 
   ping chat.freenode.net
 PING chat.freenode.net (154.35.200.44) 56(84) bytes of data.
[snip]

(Note that chat.freenode.net has round-robin DNS and that the address 
your IRC client was trying to connect to is different to the one you 
ended up pinging. I don't expect this is part of the problem though.)

Does your ISP block port 6667? Can you connect to chat.freenode.net:6667 
(e.g. telnet chat.freenode.net 6667)?

Steve

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IRC - does not connect

2008-08-01 Thread Mac
Jake Bunce wrote:
 Do you have any firewall rules that may be blocking IRC?

Not AFAIK.  I don't have a software firewall.  How would I check???

Mac


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IRC - does not connect

2008-08-01 Thread Mac
Stephen Hildrey wrote:
snip
 Does your ISP block port 6667? Can you connect to chat.freenode.net:6667 
 (e.g. telnet chat.freenode.net 6667)?

If I do  telnet chat.freenode.net 6667

I get only

Trying 216.155.130.130...

which just sits there, with nothing else happening.

I'll e-mail my ISP to check whether they block port 6667

Mac


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IRC - does not connect

2008-08-01 Thread Stephen Hildrey
Mac wrote:
 Stephen Hildrey wrote:
 snip
 Does your ISP block port 6667? Can you connect to chat.freenode.net:6667 
 (e.g. telnet chat.freenode.net 6667)?
 
 If I do  telnet chat.freenode.net 6667
 
 I get only
 
 Trying 216.155.130.130...
 
 which just sits there, with nothing else happening.
 
 I'll e-mail my ISP to check whether they block port 6667

It might be worth trying to connect on port 6665 which is supported by 
most (all?) freenode servers and is less likely to be filtered by your ISP.

Steve

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IRC - does not connect

2008-08-01 Thread Jake Bunce
Try a web based client like mibbit http://www.mibbit.com/

:-)

2008/8/1 Stephen Hildrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Mac wrote:
  Stephen Hildrey wrote:
  snip
  Does your ISP block port 6667? Can you connect to
 chat.freenode.net:6667
  (e.g. telnet chat.freenode.net 6667)?
 
  If I do  telnet chat.freenode.net 6667
 
  I get only
 
  Trying 216.155.130.130...
 
  which just sits there, with nothing else happening.
 
  I'll e-mail my ISP to check whether they block port 6667

 It might be worth trying to connect on port 6665 which is supported by
 most (all?) freenode servers and is less likely to be filtered by your ISP.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IRC - does not connect

2008-08-01 Thread Mac
Stephen Hildrey wrote:
 It might be worth trying to connect on port 6665 which is supported by 
 most (all?) freenode servers and is less likely to be filtered by your ISP.

Great!  Using 6665 I can connect using Pidgin.  I can't see anywhere to 
change the default port in Xchat-gnome.  Any ideas?

Thanks very much for your help with this.  It was getting really 
exasperating!

Mac




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