Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] How free is the Android OS?

2008-10-17 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Michael G Fletcher wrote:
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 This might help you decide...

 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/16/android_kill_switch/

 Rob

ouch... this will be interesting to follow


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[ubuntu-uk] RE- Changing default settings for all users

2008-10-17 Thread Duncan Collins
Rob,

I am usually a silent member of this list.
However this is very close to what I am trying to do,
to set up a work client for an otherwise Windows network.
I have had some success in using Sabayon to do some of what you mention

Install Sabayon
System Administration - User profile editor
Add a profile
Create Icons, change settings etc
Set profile for all users.
I'm not sure this includes proxy server settings ( I could also do with
knowing how to do this for all users )
Unfortunately I did some of this and it worked, I then went back in and it
kept crashing when saving changes.

Also with the other issue I'm struggling with I managed to corrupt my
sudoers file on my test virtual machine, so have had to go back to a backup
and am still redoing things

The other issue is I want to map windows network drives when a user logs in,
probably by putting a script in /etc/profile.d

Drives are for example \\server\users\username
or \\server\data
so I need to run comands like

sudo mount -t cifs -o user=collind,domain=windowsdomain,password=password
//server/data gdrive.

The problem is the sudo, as the windows domain user will not be a sudoer
Hence my unsuccesful attemps so far at enabling /bin/mount for all users in
the sudoers file.

Been trying with
user ALL = NOPASSWD: /bin/mount, /bin/umount

I am using 8.04.1 and Likewise

I see you posted this a while back, so hopefully you have had some success
now, I'de be interested in hearing your findings
and other words of wisdom anybody else has.

Regards

Duncan



Hi folks,

I'm in the process of trying to roll out Ubuntu across one of our
offices as a replacement to Windows XP.  At the moment on Windows XP we
have a standard desktop which includes desktop background, Internet
Explorer proxy settings and other tweaks.

Now rather than have the hassle of setting up each individual users
desktop when they first login I was hoping it would be possible to set a
default desktop configuration for each new user.

I just wondered if it was possible?

What I was looking at doing was setting up Ubuntu to authenticate
against the Windows 2003 Server (so I don't have to create a bunch of
individual accounts too) and have their home directories mount to their
user directory on the server.

I vaguely remember reading something about default settings in /etc/skel
but after looking in that directory I see there are just some default
files for bash.  Is it possible to put a set of default files in to
/etc/skel and is there any specific configuration files I need?

Ta,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RE- Changing default settings for all users

2008-10-17 Thread Rob Beard
Duncan Collins wrote:
 Rob,

 I am usually a silent member of this list.
 However this is very close to what I am trying to do,
 to set up a work client for an otherwise Windows network.
 I have had some success in using Sabayon to do some of what you mention

 Install Sabayon
 System Administration - User profile editor
 Add a profile
 Create Icons, change settings etc
 Set profile for all users.
 I'm not sure this includes proxy server settings ( I could also do 
 with knowing how to do this for all users )
 Unfortunately I did some of this and it worked, I then went back in 
 and it kept crashing when saving changes.

 Also with the other issue I'm struggling with I managed to corrupt my 
 sudoers file on my test virtual machine, so have had to go back to a 
 backup and am still redoing things

 The other issue is I want to map windows network drives when a user 
 logs in, probably by putting a script in /etc/profile.d

 Drives are for example \\server\users\username
 or \\server\data
 so I need to run comands like

 sudo mount -t cifs -o 
 user=collind,domain=windowsdomain,password=password //server/data gdrive.

 The problem is the sudo, as the windows domain user will not be a sudoer
 Hence my unsuccesful attemps so far at enabling /bin/mount for all 
 users in the sudoers file.

 Been trying with
 user ALL = NOPASSWD: /bin/mount, /bin/umount

 I am using 8.04.1 and Likewise

 I see you posted this a while back, so hopefully you have had some 
 success now, I'de be interested in hearing your findings
 and other words of wisdom anybody else has.

 Regards

 Duncan

Hmm interesting.  I haven't actually got that far yet.  Once of my 
issues is authenticating against the server.  I did try Likewise but it 
didn't work very well (I've been using a couple of VM's, one running SME 
Server 7.3 which provides a Samba 3 PDC and another running either Hardy 
or Intrepid).  I've also tried LDAP with no luck.  Just can't seem to 
find a howto which explains how to do it properly.  There's lots of 
information out there, none of it however seems to do the job. :-(

Rob


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[ubuntu-uk] [ANNOUNCE] Time for a change

2008-10-17 Thread Alan Pope
Hi all,

Just over a year ago [0] I was narrowly voted in as the Point of
Contact (PoC) for the UK LoCo team. I've enjoyed the role, but feel
that the team is in need of invigoration, and as such I will stand
down from the post as of 30th November 2008.

Since I have been PoC for the Ubuntu LoCo I have not devoted as much
time and effort to the team as I envisaged, and this has - in part -
led to my decision to step down. I don't want to hold the team back,
or negatively influence the direction of the team.

I would like to see someone enthusiastic take over and spur the team
into action, something I've sadly been unable to do. I will still be
involved in the team, IRC channel, mailing list, podcast and forums,
but will no longer be the contact point for the LoCo as of the 1st
December. I will of course be happy to advise the new PoC should they
need it in the new role.

I propose that between now and the end of October we take this
opportunity to flesh out a fair process by which a new PoC can be
elected.

In order to make the process open and fair I have outlined below a
process to select the new PoC. This is of course just a suggestion and
is open to discussion. I propose we take until no later than the end
of October to discuss this and come up with a solution.

Between now and the middle of November members of the UK LoCo should
consider putting themselves forward for the position of Point of
Contact, and ready their pitch.

At some time before the end of the 14th of November, those wishing to
be put forward for the position of UK PoC should place their name and
pitch on the wiki [1] for consideration by those people in the UK LoCo
Team.

On the 15th November, a poll within the UK Team [2] using
Launchpad.net should be created by an administrator of the team,
listing each of the candidates listed at [1]. The poll should start on
the 16th November 2008 and run until the 30th November 2008.

During the period 16th-30th November, members of the UK Team (except
the outgoing PoC - namely me) will be eligible to vote for a new PoC.
The winner being the person with the most votes. In the unlikely event
of a draw, the outgoing Point of Contact will get the casting vote.

On or after the 1st December the new PoC will be announced and all
shall rejoice.

Discuss :)

Cheers,
Al.

[0] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uk/+poll/ubuntu-uk-point-of-contact
[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ubuntu-uk.org/PoC_candidates
[2] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uk/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LDAP login authentication - WAS:Authenticating against Samba/NT 4.0 domain

2008-10-17 Thread Rob Beard
Neil Greenwood wrote:
 2008/10/15 Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 Hi folks,

 As part of the change over from Windows XP to Ubuntu I'm trying to get
 the Ubuntu machine to authenticate against a domain.

 At the moment we have a Windows 2003 SBS server which is going to be
 _hopefully_ replaced with SME Server 7.3 which provides a domain via Samba.

 Now I've got this working before on earlier versions of Ubuntu (6.10,
 7.04) but not tried it in a while.

 What I'm trying to do is get the Ubuntu box to authenticate against the
 domain so when a user comes along, they can login using their Windows
 login details (saves me hassle of creating extra accounts and keeping
 passwords up to date).

 Previously I was able to follow this guide to authenticate the users...

 http://tech.canterburyschool.org/tech/UbuntuWorkstations_2fAuthenticationSetup

 The problem is, I'm trying this on Intrepid and some of the
 configuration files (where it relates to pam) have changed and not being
 an expert on pam, I don't know what to alter.

 I see that in some of the palm config files it now uses pam_permit.so
 rather than pam_unix.so.  I just wondered if pam_permit.so looks in
 another config file?
 

 There was an article about PAM in Linux Format issue 99. If you
 subscribe, you can see the articles on their website even if you no
 longer have the issue.

 It explains what all of the different pam_xxx.so options do, and how
 to configure them.

 If you aren't a subscriber, or no longer have the issue, I'll have a
 look and see what I can crib from the article to help you out.


 Cofion,
 Neil.

   
Okay I've dug out the issue and had a play but on Intrepid it seems to 
use some new method of authenticating with PAM.  Looks like a good idea 
but I can't find any good documentation on it.

I've enabled LDAP on the SME Server now which I'm hoping will work 
better for what I need.

The problem again is that I can't find any documentation for Intrepid.  
I did find something for Hardy bit that didn't seem to work on Intrepid 
(I ended up breaking sudo with that one!).

Times like this I wish there was a nice GUI which would help me setup 
authentication against the server using LDAP.  I wonder if Likewise will 
do this? (I know it authenticates against Active Directory but I'm not 
actually running AD, just LDAP and a Samba PDC).

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ANNOUNCE] Time for a change

2008-10-17 Thread ptaylor

hi

What does the role of UK LOCO POC involve, what responsabilities, and 
tasks does it involve,

Philip

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Brobostigon


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ANNOUNCE] Time for a change

2008-10-17 Thread Alan Pope
2008/10/17 ptaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 What does the role of UK LOCO POC involve, what responsabilities, and
 tasks does it involve,


Good question.

The role used to be called 'Team Leader'. However there was a meeting
(whilst I was on holiday) where it was decided that the role should be
Point of Contact rather than Team Leader. The vote was done ad-hoc
- i.e. it wasn't on the agenda for that meeting but was decided to
hold the vote during the meeting. If it had been on the agenda I'd
probably have made effort to attend and protest, but I was on holiday
with no net connection and didn't find out until afterwards.

I believe it was a mistake to make this change so explicitly, but
respected it anyhow. However as the holder of the position I have felt
for the last year that it would be churlish to try to overturn this,
and have instead waited until I step down before saying anything about
it on the list. This change in name of the role is - in part - one of
the reasons I have been reluctant to try to push the team to do
_anything_ for fear of you're not a _leader_, you're just a PoC type
reprisals.

Note - most if not all other teams within the Ubuntu project have
'Leaders', there is a Leadership Code of Conduct [0] which kinda
implies that teams have leaders.

This has somewhat diluted (in name if not in role) the position in my
opinion. Whilst it is _only_ a name, it has a profound psychological
effect on the person holding the position. A 'Leader' might be
responsible for doing things such as organising promotional events,
bug jams and such. A 'Point of Contact' is more of a passive role,
responding to contact from outside the team, and being a liason
between this team and others (such as the LoCo Council [on which I
also stand], the Community Council and so on).

This is pretty much the role I have taken on over the last year,
despite other members of the team telling me to ignore that vote and
you're a leader by action if not by name.

Back to your question. I would suggest that a typical team leader should:-

* Hold regular meetings online
* Inform the team of developments within the UK
* Schedule events within the UK - bug jams, packaging jams
* Show leadership by contributing to Ubuntu in the way one might expect others.
* Try to follow the Leadership Code of Conduct [0] closely
* Anything else that they can think of.

Cheers,
Al.

[0] http://www.ubuntu.com/community/leadership-conduct

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LDAP login authentication - WAS:Authenticating against Samba/NT 4.0 domain

2008-10-17 Thread Tony Pursell
On 17 Oct 2008 at 15:52, Rob Beard wrote:
 
 Neil Greenwood wrote:
  2008/10/15 Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Hi folks,
 
  As part of the change over from Windows XP to Ubuntu I'm trying to get
  the Ubuntu machine to authenticate against a domain.
 
  At the moment we have a Windows 2003 SBS server which is going to be
  _hopefully_ replaced with SME Server 7.3 which provides a domain via Samba.
 
  Now I've got this working before on earlier versions of Ubuntu (6.10,
  7.04) but not tried it in a while.
 
  What I'm trying to do is get the Ubuntu box to authenticate against the
  domain so when a user comes along, they can login using their Windows
  login details (saves me hassle of creating extra accounts and keeping
  passwords up to date).
 
  Previously I was able to follow this guide to authenticate the users...
 
  http://tech.canterburyschool.org/tech/UbuntuWorkstations_2fAuthenticationSetup
 
  The problem is, I'm trying this on Intrepid and some of the
  configuration files (where it relates to pam) have changed and not being
  an expert on pam, I don't know what to alter.
 
  I see that in some of the palm config files it now uses pam_permit.so
  rather than pam_unix.so.  I just wondered if pam_permit.so looks in
  another config file?
  
 
  There was an article about PAM in Linux Format issue 99. If you
  subscribe, you can see the articles on their website even if you no
  longer have the issue.
 
  It explains what all of the different pam_xxx.so options do, and how
  to configure them.
 
  If you aren't a subscriber, or no longer have the issue, I'll have a
  look and see what I can crib from the article to help you out.
 
 
  Cofion,
  Neil.
 

 Okay I've dug out the issue and had a play but on Intrepid it seems to 
 use some new method of authenticating with PAM.  Looks like a good idea 
 but I can't find any good documentation on it.
 
 I've enabled LDAP on the SME Server now which I'm hoping will work 
 better for what I need.
 
 The problem again is that I can't find any documentation for Intrepid.  
 I did find something for Hardy bit that didn't seem to work on Intrepid 
 (I ended up breaking sudo with that one!).
 
 Times like this I wish there was a nice GUI which would help me setup 
 authentication against the server using LDAP.  I wonder if Likewise will 
 do this? (I know it authenticates against Active Directory but I'm not 
 actually running AD, just LDAP and a Samba PDC).
 
 Rob
 
 
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You might find this interesting

http://www.linux.com/feature/145656

Tony


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ANNOUNCE] Time for a change

2008-10-17 Thread John Levin
Alan Pope wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Just over a year ago [0] I was narrowly voted in as the Point of
 Contact (PoC) for the UK LoCo team. I've enjoyed the role, but feel
 that the team is in need of invigoration, and as such I will stand
 down from the post as of 30th November 2008.
 

Lots to think about here, but before I do that, just to say cheers Alan, 
you've done a lot for Ubuntu and Ubuntu-UK in many ways (and bought me a 
few drinks).

Your efforts are much appreciated, (so were the drinks) and long may you 
continue to be involved.

John

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ANNOUNCE] Time for a change

2008-10-17 Thread Dave Walker
Alan Pope wrote:
 Hi all,

 Just over a year ago [0] I was narrowly voted in as the Point of
 Contact (PoC) for the UK LoCo team. I've enjoyed the role, but feel
 that the team is in need of invigoration, and as such I will stand
 down from the post as of 30th November 2008.
   
SNIP

Hi Alan,

Sorry to hear you're standing down, hope you feel you've done a good job
to date. Well done on your contribution, and I feel comfortable you'll
still be just as active in the -uk community.

You seem to have outlined a good proposal for a seamless handover, and
I'm sure you'll aide the new person into their new role.  Hopefully a
more formal process will avoid previous issues.  Now, we need to rally
lots of enthusiasm for this.  We need plenty of candidates and
(hopefully), more voters :).

Good luck on future projects, and I hope this gives you more time for
greater things.

Kind Regards,
Dave Walker


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