Re: [ubuntu-uk] graphics problem on Ubuntu 8.04 Dell laptop

2009-01-03 Thread alan c
Christopher Swift wrote:
 Alan C, it was preinstalled by Dell, probably OEM so I doubt that they used
 the safe graphics mode. My sister has the same issue regarding Penguin
 Racer. I too have disabled Compiz on her laptop which is an Acer (do not the
 model) btw. An old one at least 2yrs+. The only way for me too was a hard
 reboot, not even Ctrl Alt Backspace would get a response. I hope that you
 get your answer soon though David so I can pass it on ;)

The safe graphics comment was specific to using one of the live CDs, 
not an install.
I have several  machines which work ok with 8.10, for example with the 
live CD, however, the display on them does not start at all in normal 
live CD mode. The initial boot menu  from the Live CD includes (F4 I 
think) a choice of using what it calls safe graphics.

My suggestion of live CD was to help to show if the obvious fault the 
OP had was hardware or software related. A working live CD would 
enable a conclusion that the hardware was ok.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for the Eee

2009-01-03 Thread John Levin
Liam Proven wrote:
 Setting up an Eee 900 for a mate. £40 off eBay! Great deal!
 
 Anyway, I'm not taken with Xandros, and I'm going to be supporting
 this little beast.
 
 What's the best Ubuntu remix for the Eee? Eeebuntu, Ubuntu-Eee, something 
 else?
 

I use Ubuntu-Eeee on my 701
http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/
Based on the 8.04 LTS, it's go the netbook interface - nice big icons 
etc - which suit my v. small 7 display. Hardware all works fine.

Other eee remixes:

eeexubuntu: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:home
based on xubuntu (xfce desktop) and 7.10

eeebuntu: http://www.eeebuntu.org/
based on 8.10

If anyone knows of any other ubuntu-based eee-specific distros, please 
add to this thread, and I'll post them on the wiki derivatives page
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam/Derivatives

John

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] graphics problem on Ubuntu 8.04 Dell laptop

2009-01-03 Thread Jai Harrison
I have an Inspiron 1525 and have had no problems with it in terms of
graphics. Just some problems using the second earphone slot in
Intrepid due to a bug with something in Ubuntu (don't know if it's
been reported or how to do so as I'm not sure which program has a
problem).

Anyhow, I could test Penguin Planet Racer on it and report back
(bearing in mind I'm using Intrepid and not Hardy) if you'd like.

2009/1/3 alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com:
 Christopher Swift wrote:
 Alan C, it was preinstalled by Dell, probably OEM so I doubt that they used
 the safe graphics mode. My sister has the same issue regarding Penguin
 Racer. I too have disabled Compiz on her laptop which is an Acer (do not the
 model) btw. An old one at least 2yrs+. The only way for me too was a hard
 reboot, not even Ctrl Alt Backspace would get a response. I hope that you
 get your answer soon though David so I can pass it on ;)

 The safe graphics comment was specific to using one of the live CDs,
 not an install.
 I have several  machines which work ok with 8.10, for example with the
 live CD, however, the display on them does not start at all in normal
 live CD mode. The initial boot menu  from the Live CD includes (F4 I
 think) a choice of using what it calls safe graphics.

 My suggestion of live CD was to help to show if the obvious fault the
 OP had was hardware or software related. A working live CD would
 enable a conclusion that the hardware was ok.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for the Eee

2009-01-03 Thread Yishay Mor
2009/1/3 John Levin j...@technolalia.org

 Liam Proven wrote:
 
  What's the best Ubuntu remix for the Eee? Eeebuntu, Ubuntu-Eee, something
 else?
 

 I use Ubuntu-Eeee on my 701
 http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/
 Based on the 8.04 LTS, it's go the netbook interface - nice big icons
 etc - which suit my v. small 7 display. Hardware all works fine.


I second that!
Here's my little devil doing emergency file transfers from Pl. St. Pietro,
Rome:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yish/3036511755/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for the Eee

2009-01-03 Thread Alan Pope
2009/1/3 Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com:
 What's the best Ubuntu remix for the Eee? Eeebuntu, Ubuntu-Eee, something 
 else?


I use stock Ubuntu with my Eee. I added a different kernel, but thats
about it, its pretty much stock Ubuntu.

However for a long time I used Xandros and had no problem with it as
it just worked

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for the Eee

2009-01-03 Thread Andrew Oakley
On 03/01/2009, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote:
 What's the best Ubuntu remix for the Eee? Eeebuntu, Ubuntu-Eee, something
 else?

I'll second (third?) Ubuntu-Eee ( www.ubuntu-eee.com ) which I'm using
from my Eee 901 right now. It is based on Ubuntu 8.04 so  is supported
for at le ast the next two years. It is imminently to be rebranded
Easy Peasy and the next release will be based on 8.10. I'll stick with
Ubuntu-Eee 8.04 as I prefer the longer LTS release cycle.

Ubuntu-Eee/Easy Peasy has a number of advantages over the stock Ubuntu
8.04, notably boot-up time and built-in SD/Flash boot formatter for
install.

There are a few points where I've chosen to differ, though:

* I prefer eee-control to eeepc-config . eee-control supports
eee-control-tray which allows easy access to turn wifi, bluetooth,
card reader on/off to save battery, and also to change the CPU profile
again to save battery. eee-control and eee-control-tray are both
available from the repositories which are configured by default in
Ubuntu-Eee.

* I prefer blueman and gnome-ppp to control bluetooth and GPRS/3G over
bluetooth phones. Gnome-PPP is in the standard Ubuntu repo. Blueman is
at http://blueman.tuxfamily.org/ and they provide a repo for Ubuntu
8.04 .

* I prefer to mount everything on the SDA SSD, and then have /home2 on
SDB with symlinks from /home/user directories as required. SDA is a
much f aster flash card and things work faster if you have all your
.preferences folders on SDA.

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[ubuntu-uk] Laptop lid event to standby/hibernate at GDM login?

2009-01-03 Thread Andrew Oakley
I've got suspend-to-ram (sleep) and suspend-to-disk (hibernate)
working well on my Asus Eee 901 using Ubuntu (actually Ubuntu-Eee,
based on Hardy).

What works:

* Hibernate and sleep keys on laptop
* Hibernate and sleep (suspend-to-ram) from Quit window
* Lid close calls sleep (suspend-to-ram) if logged in to a Gnome session
* Options - Hibernate and Options  - Suspend from GDM login screen
(even if nobody logged in)
* Resume from all the above

What doesn't work, that I want to:

* Lid close to call sleep (suspend-to-ram) from GDM login screen, when
no users are yet logged in, or all users have logged out.

I want this because I allow visitors to use the guest account on my
netbook and I want to encourage them to log out when they have
finished, then shut the lid.

Can anyone shed any light on this? Hibernate/suspend obviously works
from GDM Login window, since the Options - Hibernate and Options -
Suspend items work. What doesn't work is the lid closure to trigger
these calls.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for the Eee

2009-01-03 Thread Ronnie Tucker
Liam Proven wrote:
 Setting up an Eee 900 for a mate. £40 off eBay! Great deal!

 Anyway, I'm not taken with Xandros, and I'm going to be supporting
 this little beast.

 What's the best Ubuntu remix for the Eee? Eeebuntu, Ubuntu-Eee, something 
 else?

   
I recommend CrunchEEE (a derivative of CrunchBang Linux, which uses 
Ubuntu) it comes with the Array.org kernel by default so everything 
works at the end of the install. It also uses OpenBox, rather than 
Gnome, to get extra speed. And it even has conky running in the 
corner of the screen, for extra geekness...  :D

I use it on my 701 EEE and it works great.

I did a quick review of it on my blog: 
http://ronnietucker.co.uk/blog/cruncheee-crunchbanglinux-on-the-asus-eee-701-pc/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for the Eee

2009-01-03 Thread Liam Proven
2009/1/3 Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk:
 I recommend CrunchEEE (a derivative of CrunchBang Linux, which uses
 Ubuntu) it comes with the Array.org kernel by default so everything
 works at the end of the install. It also uses OpenBox, rather than
 Gnome, to get extra speed. And it even has conky running in the
 corner of the screen, for extra geekness...  :D

 I use it on my 701 EEE and it works great.

 I did a quick review of it on my blog:
 http://ronnietucker.co.uk/blog/cruncheee-crunchbanglinux-on-the-asus-eee-701-pc/

Thanks for that! It sounds good and if I get one of these weee
beasties for myself it sounds ideal. But for my friend, who is
extremely non-technical, I think it would be too hard to operate. He
doesn't know what a CPU or a file manager is, let alone how to mount
devices and so on...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for the Eee

2009-01-03 Thread Liam Proven
2009/1/3 Andrew Oakley and...@aoakley.com:
 On 03/01/2009, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote:
 What's the best Ubuntu remix for the Eee? Eeebuntu, Ubuntu-Eee, something
 else?

 I'll second (third?) Ubuntu-Eee ( www.ubuntu-eee.com ) which I'm using
 from my Eee 901 right now. It is based on Ubuntu 8.04 so  is supported
 for at le ast the next two years. It is imminently to be rebranded
 Easy Peasy and the next release will be based on 8.10. I'll stick with
 Ubuntu-Eee 8.04 as I prefer the longer LTS release cycle.

Just so - I don't want to be on the 6-monthly upgrades. Maybe on my
own machine, not on a non-technical friend's. *Especially* not with a
nonstandard kernel.

 Ubuntu-Eee/Easy Peasy has a number of advantages over the stock Ubuntu
 8.04, notably boot-up time and built-in SD/Flash boot formatter for
 install.

 There are a few points where I've chosen to differ, though:

 * I prefer eee-control to eeepc-config . eee-control supports
 eee-control-tray which allows easy access to turn wifi, bluetooth,
 card reader on/off to save battery, and also to change the CPU profile
 again to save battery. eee-control and eee-control-tray are both
 available from the repositories which are configured by default in
 Ubuntu-Eee.

What is eeepc-config?

 * I prefer blueman and gnome-ppp to control bluetooth and GPRS/3G over
 bluetooth phones. Gnome-PPP is in the standard Ubuntu repo. Blueman is
 at http://blueman.tuxfamily.org/ and they provide a repo for Ubuntu
 8.04 .

OK - but why?

 * I prefer to mount everything on the SDA SSD, and then have /home2 on
 SDB with symlinks from /home/user directories as required. SDA is a
 much f aster flash card and things work faster if you have all your
 .preferences folders on SDA.

What's the difference? What are SDA and SDB? Is this the internal SSD
versus the SD slot? His is a 20G model, with a 4G main SSD and a 16G
secondary one in the expansion slot, which Xandros makes look like one
big disk.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for the Eee

2009-01-03 Thread Chris Rowson
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Setting up an Eee 900 for a mate. £40 off eBay! Great deal!


Nice one Liam.

I can't see anything anywhere near that price on eBay at the mo - I never
manage to get deals like that lol!

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[ubuntu-uk] printing scanned documents

2009-01-03 Thread norman
I have recently changed from Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and I have noticed
something strange. I have used XSane for several years for scanning and
sending images to the printer and, until recently, there was very little
delay between the completion of the scan and the start up of the
printer. However, with 8.10, there is a very noticeable lag between end
of scan and start up of printer. Furthermore, this delay seems to
increase with increase in the number of copies required and also there
is a noticeable delay between copies when several are required. 

I have tried to find out what could be the cause but, so far, I have not
been successful. I would be grateful for any useful suggestions, please.

Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] printing scanned documents

2009-01-03 Thread Paul Broadhead
norman wrote:

 However, with 8.10, there is a very noticeable lag
 between end of scan and start up of printer.

There was an update in the 8.10 version of the ghostscript packages
today that fixed several problems related to slow printing, printing
using lots of disk space and/or memory. Have you updated yet? May be
you could again after updating.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] printing scanned documents

2009-01-03 Thread norman

  However, with 8.10, there is a very noticeable lag
  between end of scan and start up of printer.
 
 There was an update in the 8.10 version of the ghostscript packages
 today that fixed several problems related to slow printing, printing
 using lots of disk space and/or memory. Have you updated yet? May be
 you could again after updating.

Thank you, I will follow this up and report back in due course.

Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems with Google Earth

2009-01-03 Thread Ellis Corbie Riley
Hey guys,

I've been having the exact same problem in Intrepid, with the same card,
using the open source drivers. I installed Google Earth a while ago, but
haven't been able to use it due to it crashing.

Could be a bug, but I'm not sure.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for the Eee

2009-01-03 Thread Andrew Oakley
On 03/01/2009, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/1/3 Andrew Oakley and...@aoakley.com:
 * I prefer eee-control to eeepc-config . eee-control supports
 What is eeepc-config?

Eeepc-config is a bunch of scripts that configure Ubuntu for the Eee,
such as the hotkeys, wifi, camera etc. It assumes a bunch of defaults
that you might not necessarily agree with. Eee-control, by contrast,
provides a tray applet through which you can manually configure your
own preferences, and turn stuff on/off at a whim.

 * I prefer blueman and gnome-ppp to control bluetooth and GPRS/3G over
 bluetooth phones. Gnome-PPP is in the standard Ubuntu repo. Blueman is
 at http://blueman.tuxfamily.org/ and they provide a repo for Ubuntu
 8.04 .

 OK - but why?

Blueman provides a really good GUI for Bluez-utils. You can browse
phones direct from the tray applet, similar to the Nokia systray
applet on MS-Windows. Gnome-PPP provides a good GUI for wvdial. You
can manage without both and still configure GPRS/4G over bluetooth
without them, but it's a lot more commandline than I'd like.

If you have a 900 then you won't have bluetooth built in, but can use
a USB bluetooth adaptor (I recommend one of those really slim ones!).
I have a 901 which comes with bluetooth built-in.

 * I prefer to mount everything on the SDA SSD, and then have /home2 on
 SDB with symlinks from /home/user directories as required. SDA is a
 much f aster flash card and things work faster if you have all your
 .preferences folders on SDA.

 What's the difference? What are SDA and SDB? Is this the internal SSD
 versus the SD slot? His is a 20G model, with a 4G main SSD and a 16G
 secondary one in the expansion slot, which Xandros makes look like one
 big disk

SDA is the 4GB drive. It is a physically separate drive (not merely a
partition) which uses high quality, fast, expensive flash memory.
Things on this drive load and save faster. Ideal for the main OS
files.

SDB is the 16GB drive - a physically separate drive. It uses
inexpensive slower flash memory, similar to that found on USB keys or
memory cards. Fine for movies, documents, MP3s etc. but you don't want
anything frequently accessed by the OS here.

Xandros may make SDA and SDB look like one drive, but they aren't.

SDC is the Secure Digital card slot.

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[ubuntu-uk] Laptop lid event to lock screen

2009-01-03 Thread Adrian
Hi all, 

I saw Andrew's post about events when closing the laptop lid and I
wonder is there a way to just lock screen when the laptop lid is closed?
I have not seen this available in the Ubuntu settings. I do not wish to
shut the system off or suspend its activities, I would just like it to
continue working and give security that no one else on the network can
try to get in and that only I can get the screen back with a password.

Is this possible?

A

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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop lid event to standby/hibernate at GDM
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I've got suspend-to-ram (sleep) and suspend-to-disk (hibernate)
working well on my Asus Eee 901 using Ubuntu (actually Ubuntu-Eee,
based on Hardy).

What works:

* Hibernate and sleep keys on laptop
* Hibernate and sleep (suspend-to-ram) from Quit window
* Lid close calls sleep (suspend-to-ram) if logged in to a Gnome session
* Options - Hibernate and Options  - Suspend from GDM login screen
(even if nobody logged in)
* Resume from all the above

What doesn't work, that I want to:

* Lid close to call sleep (suspend-to-ram) from GDM login screen, when
no users are yet logged in, or all users have logged out.

I want this because I allow visitors to use the guest account on my
netbook and I want to encourage them to log out when they have
finished, then shut the lid.

Can anyone shed any light on this? Hibernate/suspend obviously works
from GDM Login window, since the Options - Hibernate and Options -
Suspend items work. What doesn't work is the lid closure to trigger
these calls.

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