Re: [ubuntu-uk] Venue for London Bugjam

2009-01-26 Thread Josh Holland
2009/1/26 John Levin j...@technolalia.org:
 James Thomas wrote:
 Hi all,

 Just a note to say I have a venue in central London, next to Liverpool
 Street station.
 Details can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam/London

 :)

 James Thomas
 (selinuxium)


 Excellent! I was getting frustrated at drawing a blank on this.

 John


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Good to see the London location sorted out. Do we have any more info about the
Birmingham one? I heard that it was at the Linux Emporium in Birmingham, but
haven't heard anything about times or a verification of the location.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Venue for London Bugjam

2009-01-26 Thread Ciaran Mooney
 Good to see the London location sorted out. Do we have any more info about the
 Birmingham one? I heard that it was at the Linux Emporium in Birmingham, but
 haven't heard anything about times or a verification of the location.

Erm. I haven't heard that. I'll speak to Linux Emporium and get back to you.

Btw. I am from Birmingham, I have decided to go to London for the Bug
Jam. It's best you join the SB-Lug and Wolves LUG mailing lists and
see if you can garner some help and support.

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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Bloggers Wanted

2009-01-26 Thread schwuk
Thought this may be of interest to someone:

 Nine Lives Media Inc. — WorksWithU.com’s parent company — is seeking at
 least three contributing bloggers who can offer balanced coverage of
 Microsoft and Windows 7, Apple and Mac OS X, and Canonical’s Ubuntu
 Linux. Here’s what we’re seeking.
 
 Canonical and Ubuntu Linux Contributing Blogger: Yes, you should run
 Ubuntu regularly if you want to cover Ubuntu for us. But more
 importantly, you should be able to cover what Canonical is doing right
 — and wrong — as it promotes Ubuntu server, desktop and mobile editions
 to businesses.

http://www.workswithu.com/2009/01/25/ubuntu-windows-7-and-apple-bloggers-wanted/
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Memory upgrade

2009-01-26 Thread Rob Beard
On 25/01/2009 23:20, Kris Douglas wrote:

 My XPS M1530 runs with a fast 3gb set from aria, works fine... and my
 desktop runs on aria ram too :)


Ahh that's good to know.  I've always been doubious about buying cheap 
memory since I worked at eBuyer and the other guys there told me when I 
started that in no uncertain terms that their value memory was not very 
good.  Not sure if it's changed since.  The Aria memory though has been 
fine in anything I've put it in.  Kind of makes me wonder why I spent 
nearly £70 on 4GB of OCZ memory when I upgraded my desktop last year. :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Venue for London Bugjam

2009-01-26 Thread Ciaran Mooney
 If you are going to attend the London BugJam could you please update the
 wiki page:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam/London
 to show you are attending...

Not a problem! Although there is another page that people were writing
their names on for attending at various locations.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/GlobalBugJam09

May be an idea to try and contact them and say that a venue has been
found, and edit the wiki page to that effect.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Venue for London Bugjam

2009-01-26 Thread Ciaran Mooney
Hi,

What qualities are you looking for a leader? As so far no-one has
stepped up to the plate.

Do you want an experienced bug squasher or just someone to take
responsibility for the room/projector?

I think we can survive without an experienced bug squasher, although
it may be slower. But learning together would be fun.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manlug

2009-01-26 Thread Lucy
2009/1/25 Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net:
 Simon Wears wrote:
 Firstly - my apologies! I think I sent out a blank email to the list
 by accident.

 Second - I'm living in Manchester, and was thinking of going along to
 one of the MANlug meetings. Does anyone on this list go, or know how
 active they are?

 Hiya,

 I'm based near Manchester and though I've never been to a ManLUG
 meeting, I know a load of people who do and hangout on #manlug on
 irc.oftc.net (I'm tdobson - feel free to say hi)

 There is actually quite a broad spectrum of tech groups in the northwest.

Thanks for that excellent summary Tim, I really should have remembered
Manchester Free Software! To the OP, don't be put off by the name,
there are plenty of people running Ubuntu in the group (as well as
gnewsense). I would strongly recommend joining both the manlug [1] and
MFS [2] mailing lists to keep up with events in the area. As Tim said,
the drupal talk in February should be really interesting. Also, if
you're interested in the more social side of things, then I would
strongly recommend the monthly #manlug currybeer on 6th February.

[1] http://www.manlug.org
[2] http://manchester.fsuk.org
[3] http://www.manlug.org.uk

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Memory upgrade

2009-01-26 Thread David King
I have bought RAM from ebuyer before, and it very soon failed and had to 
be replaced.

I have since gone elsewhere for RAM and not had any problems.


David


Rob Beard wrote:
 Ahh that's good to know. I've always been doubious about buying cheap
 memory since I worked at eBuyer and the other guys there told me when I 
 started that in no uncertain terms that their value memory was not very 
 good.  Not sure if it's changed since.  The Aria memory though has been 
 fine in anything I've put it in.  Kind of makes me wonder why I spent 
 nearly £70 on 4GB of OCZ memory when I upgraded my desktop last year. :-)

 Rob


   


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[ubuntu-uk] Im buying a new phone!! How compatible are android and Ubuntu?

2009-01-26 Thread javadayaz
Hi,

Its that time of the year again where i get a new phone. Im thinking
of going with the andorid. How compatible are the two systems, since
they are both open source?



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Im buying a new phone!! How compatible are android and Ubuntu?

2009-01-26 Thread javadayaz
what about the G2 or the android v2 aka cupcake? would that be worth
waiting for?



2009/1/26 John Levin j...@technolalia.org:
 javadayaz wrote:
 Hi,

 Its that time of the year again where i get a new phone. Im thinking
 of going with the andorid. How compatible are the two systems, since
 they are both open source?



 If you get a T-Mobile gphone, be prepared to be disappointed. The
 Bluetooth API doesn't work which makes things more difficult than they
 should be; the phone can be mounted via usb, but integrating the data
 isn't the simplest thing.

 Frankly, if I was getting a new phone, I'd go the apple route. Android/
 t-mobile has been a real letdown.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Im buying a new phone!! How compatible are android and Ubuntu?

2009-01-26 Thread Rob Beard
On 26/01/2009 15:43, javadayaz wrote:
 what about the G2 or the android v2 aka cupcake? would that be worth
 waiting for?

If you ask me, I'd say you'd be worth getting a different phone for now 
(as mentioned an iPhone) and then maybe hang on until the Android 2 has 
been out a while.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Im buying a new phone!! How compatible are android and Ubuntu?

2009-01-26 Thread Ian Betteridge
Nice!

The iTunes DB updating is the bit that I'm most interested in -
everything else can either be done over the air or via USB mounting.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Paul Sladen ubu...@paul.sladen.org wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Ian Betteridge wrote:
 The only problem is managing it under Linux, if you don't want to
 jailbreak the phone...

 Oh, we're nearly there :)

 * USB mounting working
 * iTunesDB updating almost working
 * Signing is there, but needs simplifying

 Contact sync almost there read-only.  Another six months maybe ... and then
 they'll change it all again.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Im buying a new phone!! How compatible are android and Ubuntu?

2009-01-26 Thread azmodie
I opted for a Openmoko Freerunner  last august. development has been
slower than some would have expected and there are a couple of
hardware buzzing issues. (there is a fix but requires soldering) There
are plenty of distros [1] for it including two based on debian and
there is also a beta port of android released by koolu. status etc
here [2]

although android on the freerunner is not quite ready as a daily phone
many others are using other ditros quite happily.

as far as i know androids filesytem on the g1 provided by t-mobile is
readonly. it has been cracked twice and then patched again in updates.
google is offering a developer edition of the g1 which solves this
problem but this would not come with the unlimited data contract from
t-mobile.

also worth noting that there is also a g2 handset on the way. which
does not feature a keyboard. Thus awaiting the cupcake release which
should include a virtual keyboard.  some great guys in the community
have added a virtual keyboard to the koolu release but it has issues
with not being able to input text in some of the dialogs.

as for the android os look and feel. i realy like it. some nice
visuals and snappy screens.

azmodie

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions
[2] http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Venue for London Bugjam

2009-01-26 Thread Ciaran Mooney
Evening,

Sorry another question.

I am not from London, so will not have my own home to go to between
the days. Is there any chance a fellow participant has a spare sofa
that I could sleep on? I would be very grateful.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Venue for London Bugjam

2009-01-26 Thread john levin
Ciaran Mooney wrote:
 Evening,
 
 Sorry another question.
 
 I am not from London, so will not have my own home to go to between
 the days. Is there any chance a fellow participant has a spare sofa
 that I could sleep on? I would be very grateful.
 

I can *probably* (pending a few diary synchronizations).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Venue for London Bugjam

2009-01-26 Thread Ciaran Mooney
 I can *probably* (pending a few diary synchronizations).

Cheers!

Could you tell me once you have got your diary synchronised? So that I
can sleep soundly knowing I don't have to start looking for park
benches. :)

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[ubuntu-uk] Installing Edubuntu 8.04.1 on Ubuntu 8.04.2

2009-01-26 Thread Rob Beard
Hi folks,

I'm in the process of installing an Edubuntu based LTSP server.  Now 
I've downloaded and installed the Ubuntu 8.04.2 Alternative CD and told 
it to install an LTSP server however on trying to download Edubuntu 8.04 
I find there is only 8.04.1 available (or 8.10).  I just wondered if it 
was okay to install Edubuntu 8.04.1 on top of Ubuntu 8.04.2 or if I'll 
have to reinstall Ubuntu 8.04.1 instead, then install Edubuntu 8.04.1 
and update over the internet?

While I think about it too, this server has 4GB Ram but I was installing 
the 32-bit version with the idea of installing the server kernel with 
the extensions to support 4GB Ram, would this work okay on an LTSP server?

Ta,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Im buying a new phone!! How compatible are android and Ubuntu?

2009-01-26 Thread LeeGroups


 Hi,

 Its that time of the year again where i get a new phone. Im thinking
 of going with the andorid. How compatible are the two systems, since
 they are both open source?
 

 If you get a T-Mobile gphone, be prepared to be disappointed. The 
 Bluetooth API doesn't work which makes things more difficult than they 
 should be; the phone can be mounted via usb, but integrating the data 
 isn't the simplest thing.

 Frankly, if I was getting a new phone, I'd go the apple route. Android/ 
 t-mobile has been a real letdown.
On the other hand,  people talk about how wonderful the iPhone is, but 
it's pretty damn expensive, and how well does it sync to Ubuntu?
I understand that it only works with iTunes and not with any open source 
music managers. Is this correct?
And it doesn't do cut 'n' paste? Come on Apple it's been around since th 
80's...

As to the G1, I've had one for a month and think it's bloomin' 
marverlous, it's a breath of fresh air after a couple of WinMobile 
phones (which weren't too bad with hindsight) and a few top end Nokias, 
which have been a real disappointment in many areas. Symbian has gone 
way down in my opinion...

The G1 has tonnes of great apps easily downloadable via Android Market 
(I mean really - a digital spirit level... how cool is that?), 
over-the-air syncing to google contacts, google calender, google mail. 
The K9 email app is great for non-google email accounts, and a really 
nice REAL keyboard, none of this touch screen typing c...@p.

As for syncing the contacts, it should be pretty simple to write a 
script that logs into your google account, exports the contacts and then 
imports it to Thunderbird/Evolution.

Yes, it's true Bluetooth is a disappointment, it was cut to make the 
launch date, and my biggest annoyance bluetooth tethering to my laptop 
doesn't work (though there is USB based http-proxy availble), but both 
are being worked on. The battery life has also been critised, but really 
if you have wi-fi, bluetooth, GPS, cell location, and 3G connectivity 
all turned on, and for the first week or two you're constantly playing 
with the thing, it's a wonder the battery lasts the time it does. There 
is very usefull Battery Manager app, that extends battery life no end. 
With things turned down/off, you can get 4-5 days out of a full charge, 
but as it charges from a mini USB plug, it's pretty easy to keep it 
charged.

The Cupcake release mentioned in another email is a new version of the 
Android OS, due out very soon, which should have these things and a 
whole host of new functionality.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Im buying a new phone!! How compatible are android and Ubuntu?

2009-01-26 Thread Simon Wears
The iPhone is great, but has it's drawbacks.

It syncs easy with googlemail and google contacts. Calendars are a  
little harder, I use neuvasync as a middle man for sync.

Iphones have Bluetooth, yet I think you need an app to use it. Same  
with mms. After jailbreaking I couldn't get the iPhone to sync with  
amarok 1.4, and it seemed to slow down, so I put it back in jail.

No cut and paste native, I hear you can get an app for it though.  
Don't know if it's a jailbreak app though.

Battery runs down quick with everything on, so I leave mine with wifi  
off. iPod feature chews battery too if you have it on loud for a while.

Overall, I'm happy with my iPhone though. It's very easy to use, and I  
only have ubuntu-uk podcast on it for audio anyway, for during  
lectures. I use iTunes on windows to sync. I use it mostly for SMS,  
phone, facebook at uni, twitter, blogging on-the-go, and podcasts.

On another note, you know your a geek when you send emails from your  
iPhone while at a rock club. In the middle of the dance floor.


On 26 Jan 2009, at 23:17, LeeGroups mailgro...@varga.co.uk wrote:



 Hi,

 Its that time of the year again where i get a new phone. Im thinking
 of going with the andorid. How compatible are the two systems, since
 they are both open source?


 If you get a T-Mobile gphone, be prepared to be disappointed. The
 Bluetooth API doesn't work which makes things more difficult than  
 they
 should be; the phone can be mounted via usb, but integrating the data
 isn't the simplest thing.

 Frankly, if I was getting a new phone, I'd go the apple route.  
 Android/
 t-mobile has been a real letdown.
 On the other hand,  people talk about how wonderful the iPhone is, but
 it's pretty damn expensive, and how well does it sync to Ubuntu?
 I understand that it only works with iTunes and not with any open  
 source
 music managers. Is this correct?
 And it doesn't do cut 'n' paste? Come on Apple it's been around  
 since th
 80's...

 As to the G1, I've had one for a month and think it's bloomin'
 marverlous, it's a breath of fresh air after a couple of WinMobile
 phones (which weren't too bad with hindsight) and a few top end  
 Nokias,
 which have been a real disappointment in many areas. Symbian has gone
 way down in my opinion...

 The G1 has tonnes of great apps easily downloadable via Android Market
 (I mean really - a digital spirit level... how cool is that?),
 over-the-air syncing to google contacts, google calender, google mail.
 The K9 email app is great for non-google email accounts, and a really
 nice REAL keyboard, none of this touch screen typing c...@p.

 As for syncing the contacts, it should be pretty simple to write a
 script that logs into your google account, exports the contacts and  
 then
 imports it to Thunderbird/Evolution.

 Yes, it's true Bluetooth is a disappointment, it was cut to make the
 launch date, and my biggest annoyance bluetooth tethering to my laptop
 doesn't work (though there is USB based http-proxy availble), but both
 are being worked on. The battery life has also been critised, but  
 really
 if you have wi-fi, bluetooth, GPS, cell location, and 3G connectivity
 all turned on, and for the first week or two you're constantly playing
 with the thing, it's a wonder the battery lasts the time it does.  
 There
 is very usefull Battery Manager app, that extends battery life no end.
 With things turned down/off, you can get 4-5 days out of a full  
 charge,
 but as it charges from a mini USB plug, it's pretty easy to keep it
 charged.

 The Cupcake release mentioned in another email is a new version of  
 the
 Android OS, due out very soon, which should have these things and a
 whole host of new functionality.

 Lee



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 options - was: Im buying a new phone!!...

2009-01-26 Thread Ronnie Tucker
Is it possible to get a G1 (hacked or otherwise) running on PAYG? I 
don't really use my phone enough to justify about £30/mth on a G1, but I 
quite fancy the wifi etc on it. If I could buy a G1 from fleaBay and pop 
my o2 PAYG SIM in it, that'd be ideal. I have a couple of T-mobile PAYG 
SIMs too if they'd work better?



LeeGroups wrote:
 On the other hand,  people talk about how wonderful the iPhone is, but 
 it's pretty damn expensive, and how well does it sync to Ubuntu?
 I understand that it only works with iTunes and not with any open source 
 music managers. Is this correct?
 And it doesn't do cut 'n' paste? Come on Apple it's been around since th 
 80's...

 As to the G1, I've had one for a month and think it's bloomin' 
 marverlous, it's a breath of fresh air after a couple of WinMobile 
 phones (which weren't too bad with hindsight) and a few top end Nokias, 
 which have been a real disappointment in many areas. Symbian has gone 
 way down in my opinion...

 The G1 has tonnes of great apps easily downloadable via Android Market 
 (I mean really - a digital spirit level... how cool is that?), 
 over-the-air syncing to google contacts, google calender, google mail. 
 The K9 email app is great for non-google email accounts, and a really 
 nice REAL keyboard, none of this touch screen typing c...@p.

 As for syncing the contacts, it should be pretty simple to write a 
 script that logs into your google account, exports the contacts and then 
 imports it to Thunderbird/Evolution.

 Yes, it's true Bluetooth is a disappointment, it was cut to make the 
 launch date, and my biggest annoyance bluetooth tethering to my laptop 
 doesn't work (though there is USB based http-proxy availble), but both 
 are being worked on. The battery life has also been critised, but really 
 if you have wi-fi, bluetooth, GPS, cell location, and 3G connectivity 
 all turned on, and for the first week or two you're constantly playing 
 with the thing, it's a wonder the battery lasts the time it does. There 
 is very usefull Battery Manager app, that extends battery life no end. 
 With things turned down/off, you can get 4-5 days out of a full charge, 
 but as it charges from a mini USB plug, it's pretty easy to keep it 
 charged.

 The Cupcake release mentioned in another email is a new version of the 
 Android OS, due out very soon, which should have these things and a 
 whole host of new functionality.

 Lee



   

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 options - was: Im buying a new phone!!...

2009-01-26 Thread azmodie
you can get the developer edition of the phone here.

http://code.google.com/android/dev-devices.html

azmodie

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