Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Ubuntu Party Weekend…
On 27 July 2010 15:06, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: Lets get planning for jamming! -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Holbach daniel.holb...@ubuntu.com Date: 27 July 2010 14:59 Subject: Ubuntu Party Weekend… [snip] … also known as Ubuntu Global Jam is coming up swiftly, so make sure you put 27th-29th August into your calendar and talk your local Ubuntu friends into participating. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam [snip] Woo! Anyone interested in one in Manchester again? Last time we held our first ever Global Jam at the MadLab. It was great to meet up with people and it would be good to hold it there again. Thoughts? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Rsync Problems
Hello all, I have set up an old laptop to act as a small home server at home, the idea being that it is quiet and low powered to be left on basically 24/7. Storage was an issue as I wanted it to act as a file server for music and somewhere to store my photos, videos etc. So in the end I have 2 external aluminium USB enclosures for 3.5 HDDs. The problem with this is that they are 'on' constantly as there doesn't seem to be any way of powering them down after a period of inactivity. Therefore they are HOT all the time and I am concerned this may be killing them. I have set up a basic script to backup my web server to this home server once a week using rsync. I get an email from cron to show me the results of the backup and I seem to be getting increasing amounts of errors. Here is a selection of some of the errors from the rsync output: rsync: readlink_stat(/home/jonr/media/.jcrdev/home-backup/Maildir/.SWLUG/cur/1277284768.5371_1.jcrdevelopments.com:2,) failed: Input/output error (5) rsync: recv_generator: failed to stat /home/jonr/media/.jcrdev/home-backup/Maildir/.SWLUG/cur/127721.13386_1.jcrdevelopments.com:2,: Input/output error (5) rsync: delete_file: unlink(Maildir/.admin/cur/1277262657.17608_1.jcrdevelopments.com:2,S) failed: Operation not permitted (1) could not make way for new regular file: Maildir/.admin/cur/1277262657.17608_1.jcrdevelopments.com:2,S IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion rsync: recv_generator: mkdir /home/jonr/media/.jcrdev/varwww-backup/gallery2/themes/matrix/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES failed: Input/output error (5) *** Skipping any contents from this failed directory *** rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(977) [sender=2.6.9] Most of then seem to be I/O errors, which makes me concerned to the health of the HDDs. But maybe its an rsync thing that I am not familiar with. Can anyone shed a bit more light on these errors? I get similar errors when mirroring one backup HDD to the other using rsync too. Thanks in advance Jon Reynolds (j0nr) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Ubuntu Party Weekend…
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28/07/10 07:15, Lucy wrote: Last time we held our first ever Global Jam at the MadLab. It was great to meet up with people and it would be good to hold it there again. Thoughts? Unfortunately, this sounds like the first weekend of my holiday \o/ so I'm not going to be around, but this sounds like a great idea to me! I'd say go for it! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMT+OKAAoJEFGyIhEBWd2JIdcH/RcUVPhSX0yO9k2w/hBoYsSo JGEtCumRq6Fi0d3nFsxqAN1OmzWnKgq14UgHXDIGpWF7UyrOfxTYQuNO7T+LMzSL EB0sGc3SuX7B37lHcYUm7TcLN6/HQ3KspM9L7Q34mjbxjY7W7AsM5NzUHm/nbyeE XPJKGHmCXfl5AtB+XsufH+Cm/UAczn78aKV2YJT2tmlyGs2Gc9W4aI7654z3qktb 8NFtCWRdqJBz2k8GIakU4N4X9zFwOyouNisXNikJPgLkjSnlULRjwK24+ZGwJ5ea 06SeQRVPGEH9I6aLOsrPoHq2StsaHo0vRHVJCKa9pa0CH7wgjmZ23QK3bAynnMg= =umwd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rsync Problems
On 28/07/2010 08:12, Jon Reynolds wrote: Hello all, I have set up an old laptop to act as a small home server at home, the idea being that it is quiet and low powered to be left on basically 24/7. Storage was an issue as I wanted it to act as a file server for music and somewhere to store my photos, videos etc. So in the end I have 2 external aluminium USB enclosures for 3.5 HDDs. The problem with this is that they are 'on' constantly as there doesn't seem to be any way of powering them down after a period of inactivity. Therefore they are HOT all the time and I am concerned this may be killing them. I have set up a basic script to backup my web server to this home server once a week using rsync. I get an email from cron to show me the results of the backup and I seem to be getting increasing amounts of errors. Here is a selection of some of the errors from the rsync output: rsync: readlink_stat(/home/jonr/media/.jcrdev/home-backup/Maildir/.SWLUG/cur/1277284768.5371_1.jcrdevelopments.com:2,) failed: Input/output error (5) rsync: recv_generator: failed to stat /home/jonr/media/.jcrdev/home-backup/Maildir/.SWLUG/cur/127721.13386_1.jcrdevelopments.com:2,: Input/output error (5) rsync: delete_file: unlink(Maildir/.admin/cur/1277262657.17608_1.jcrdevelopments.com:2,S) failed: Operation not permitted (1) could not make way for new regular file: Maildir/.admin/cur/1277262657.17608_1.jcrdevelopments.com:2,S IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion rsync: recv_generator: mkdir /home/jonr/media/.jcrdev/varwww-backup/gallery2/themes/matrix/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES failed: Input/output error (5) *** Skipping any contents from this failed directory *** rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(977) [sender=2.6.9] Most of then seem to be I/O errors, which makes me concerned to the health of the HDDs. But maybe its an rsync thing that I am not familiar with. Can anyone shed a bit more light on these errors? I get similar errors when mirroring one backup HDD to the other using rsync too. Thanks in advance Jon Reynolds (j0nr) Jon I had I/O errors on my external hdd which I backup my machines to, using rsnapshot. I ran fsck on the drive, which corrected some errors which then meant it could delete the problem files. My errors where caused by the desktop crashing and requiring a reboot, without the drive being umounted first. Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for small business
Besides the obvious issues with privacy and proprietary etc - small orgs have all sorts of practical problems with Google - stuff just not working very well and being frustrating. Also sync not working properly etc. Better to pay an expert (and opensource) provider of groupware services? But it has to be borne in mind that small orgs are often offline for a while as they use cheap broadband services and rubbish routers and don't have regular tech support. Worse, it can be really hard to migrate from Google - I've had people whose sites have broken because Google changed their architecture and I realised there was no export tool - we had to hand copy the content page-by-page - to name but one. If you really want to use a free, hosted collaboration system, Huddle is more difficult to figure out but also more reliable, a UK company and has a transparent privacy policy. For small orgs, unless people have a strong need for a seamless groupware solution, I'd go for a 'bits and bobs' approach depending on what they really need - Scheduleworld, Dropbox (sorry, but UbuntuOne needs to have x-platform clients), Firefox sync. Better still, a simple terminal server with neatx (plus can use any or all of the ancillary third-party services to avoid running complex groupware on their own server). Pretty much any web hosting package will include enough email addies and also imap. Paula On 27/07/10 21:40, Philip Stubbs wrote: If you need to get up and running quickly, and resources are tight, have you thought about using Google Apps for your domain? Register a domain name, set up google apps with that domain name, and you instantly have 100 email accounts all for the cost of the domain registration. Client machines can be anything with web access and a browser. Instantly have ability to work away from the office. Later, as time and resources allow, you could either upgrade to the paid for version, or migrate away to running your own servers, as required. I would be interested in what you find in the way of ERP. There is half an idea floating around inside my head that concerning that. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Renaming The Home Folder
Years ago, a user complained that Win 98 wasn't booting properly - in the C: root I found a user-created folder called 'scary stuff' with the .bat and config.sys files in it ;) Paula On 27/07/10 09:14, Alan Pope wrote: I had a user rename c:\windows once. Just once. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rsync Problems
Thanks Ian, Running fsck now, seems to be throwing up lots of errors... will work thru it and see what happens. Cheers. Jon Reynolds (j0nr) On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 09:13:12AM +0100, Ian Pettitt wrote: Jon I had I/O errors on my external hdd which I backup my machines to, using rsnapshot. I ran fsck on the drive, which corrected some errors which then meant it could delete the problem files. My errors where caused by the desktop crashing and requiring a reboot, without the drive being umounted first. Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rsync Problems
On 28 July 2010 08:12, Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.com wrote: Hello all, I have set up an old laptop to act as a small home server at home, the idea being that it is quiet and low powered to be left on basically 24/7. Storage was an issue as I wanted it to act as a file server for music and somewhere to store my photos, videos etc. So in the end I have 2 external aluminium USB enclosures for 3.5 HDDs. The problem with this is that they are 'on' constantly as there doesn't seem to be any way of powering them down after a period of inactivity. Therefore they are HOT all the time and I am concerned this may be killing them. Broadly, heat doesn't kill drives, vibration does. Changes in heat are not good, though: warm but stable is not too bad. Put your external cases on legs so there is good airflow, maybe direct a fan across them when it's hot, or use cases with heatsinks or cooling fans. Citation: http://research.google.com/pubs/pub32774.html -- Liam Proven • Profile links: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] London Hackspace spacewarming party - 2pm Sunday 1st August 2010
On 28 July 2010 13:22, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: Hello, If you're in/near London and into making things and/or want to learn some new skills, come to the London Hackspace spacewarming party to celebrate the lease of new premises! http://london.hackspace.org.uk/ http://wiki.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Laboratory_24 It's on Sunday 1st August and starts at 2pm, at Laboratory 24, 37 Cremer Street, E2 8HD. Directions: http://wiki.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Laboratory_24#Getting_There The membership fee is nominally £40/month (or whatever you can afford), but all are welcome to the party to check out the new space and the facilities available. It's early days but the space already has a bewildering range of equipment from lathes to dremels to sewing machines, and -- more importantly -- a community of enthusiastic people to learn from. http://wiki.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Equipment Please do pass on the word if you know anyone who may be interested in making use of the space, and I hope to see you there. Cheers, Al Thanks fort the heads up Alan. If I get back from N. Yorkshire in time I'll definitely pop along for a look-see. I've passed this on the the London Java community too to see if anyone is interested, as I am encouraging open source and community events through that community. -- John Stevenson Lean Agile Consultant / Coach jr0cket.com | leanagilemachine.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rsync Problems
Well I worked thru all the 'fixes' that fsck threw up, saying yes to all... I performed another rsync and no errors! I have set my automatic backup to run again tonight, so will see what happens. Cheers for the advise. Jon Reynolds (j0nr) On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:41:49PM +0100, Jon Reynolds wrote: Thanks Ian, Running fsck now, seems to be throwing up lots of errors... will work thru it and see what happens. Cheers. Jon Reynolds (j0nr) On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 09:13:12AM +0100, Ian Pettitt wrote: Jon I had I/O errors on my external hdd which I backup my machines to, using rsnapshot. I ran fsck on the drive, which corrected some errors which then meant it could delete the problem files. My errors where caused by the desktop crashing and requiring a reboot, without the drive being umounted first. Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rsync Problems
Thanks Liam, They are in aluminium enclosures, which are hot to the touch, so I guess they are pretty effective heat sinks in themselves. I did think about making a small enclosure to hold both HDDs with a fan at one end, but I'm not sure which is best: - Individual aluminium enclosures, good heat sinks due to HDD in contact with case. - or HDD suspended in a 'tunnel' enclosure with a slow moving fa at one end of the tunnel drawing air over them. Cheers for the input. Jon Reynolds (j0nr) On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 03:10:36PM +0100, Liam Proven wrote: On 28 July 2010 08:12, Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.com wrote: Hello all, I have set up an old laptop to act as a small home server at home, the idea being that it is quiet and low powered to be left on basically 24/7. Storage was an issue as I wanted it to act as a file server for music and somewhere to store my photos, videos etc. So in the end I have 2 external aluminium USB enclosures for 3.5 HDDs. The problem with this is that they are 'on' constantly as there doesn't seem to be any way of powering them down after a period of inactivity. Therefore they are HOT all the time and I am concerned this may be killing them. Broadly, heat doesn't kill drives, vibration does. Changes in heat are not good, though: warm but stable is not too bad. Put your external cases on legs so there is good airflow, maybe direct a fan across them when it's hot, or use cases with heatsinks or cooling fans. Citation: http://research.google.com/pubs/pub32774.html -- Liam Proven ? Profile links: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for small business
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:05:43 +0100, pmgazz pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote: Worse, it can be really hard to migrate from Google - I've had people whose sites have broken because Google changed their architecture and I realised there was no export tool - we had to hand copy the content page-by-page - to name but one. The Data Liberation Front [0] exists to try and improve this. Dropbox (sorry, but UbuntuOne needs to have x-platform clients) It's coming. [1] JT [0] http://www.dataliberation.org/ [1] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/601218 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for small business
Great! By the way, just bought some Ebuyer extra value (Clevo) laptops which they're selling without preinstalled OS (Pentium Dual Core T4300 2.1GHz, 2GB RAM, 320GB HDD, 15.6 HD*)*. I put Lucid on without any hassle - touchpad a bit annoying but overall a nice sturdy machine with OK keyboard (I've lalready got a Clevo from Novatech but it's chassis is rly flimsy, battery catch fell off after a couple of months making it very hard to carry around and the keyboard is kinda spongy). Not bad for £299 apiece. I'll let you know if anything falls off over the next couple of months ;) Paula It's coming. [1] JT [0] http://www.dataliberation.org/ [1] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/601218 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lost internet usage in Ubuntu 9.04
Thanks for the replies, I only just saw some of them today. My email provider, 11, on its mail server, had somehow decided recently that about 95% of mail sent to this account was spam (I only use this address for a few linux related things) and so after going into the 11 webmail, I managed to mark all the spam messages at not spam, and then retrieve them in Thunderbird. None of the messages it marked as spam were spam at all, in fact, I don't think I really get much spam at all on this email address (which is a testament to this mailing list). David King -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
