[ubuntu-uk] Programming in Python User Interface
Hi I've been using Ubuntu for around 1 year now I'm 21 years old Currently I'm jobless and want to help the Linux community with what I can, but I don't think I will be 100% of use, due to the fact that if I get a job I'll find it hard to be available at all times online or for meeting face-to-face. The other, being that I might get accepted into University but most likely not because I've failed to get accepted for the third time I'm trying to learn any Programming language. I heard Python is good for beginners and that's where I want to start Will be getting this book from Waterstones soon - I've ordered it:* *Dive Into Python (Mark Pilgrim) I'm having difficulties and need just a little bit of assistance in how to start with the basics then I think I will become a lot better since I have great appreciation and curiosity for technical things So I'll be very grateful if that support is provided Abdulrahman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Programming in Python User Interface
Hi, Python is an excellent choice of language Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Ubuntu Forum forum.ubunt...@gmail.com Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:03:00 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Programming in Python User Interface -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Programming in Python User Interface
On 25 March 2011 07:03, Ubuntu Forum forum.ubunt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I've been using Ubuntu for around 1 year now I'm 21 years old Currently I'm jobless and want to help the Linux community with what I can, but I don't think I will be 100% of use, due to the fact that if I get a job I'll find it hard to be available at all times online or for meeting face-to-face. The other, being that I might get accepted into University but most likely not because I've failed to get accepted for the third time I'm trying to learn any Programming language. I heard Python is good for beginners and that's where I want to start Will be getting this book from Waterstones soon - I've ordered it:* *Dive Into Python (Mark Pilgrim) I'm having difficulties and need just a little bit of assistance in how to start with the basics then I think I will become a lot better since I have great appreciation and curiosity for technical things DIve is a very good place to start. You might be interested to know that it's also available online for free so you don't have to wait for it to turn up ;). With Ubuntu you have pretty much all you need to start programming in Python so open up a Text Editor and get started. s/ -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood My CV: http://bit.ly/sfg http://bit.ly/sfgreenwood_cv_new_cv Is this your sanderling? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Programming in Python User Interface
On 25/03/11 07:03, Ubuntu Forum wrote: So I'll be very grateful if that support is provided Abdulrahman If you are new to the whole idea of programming, I'd also go and download a free ebook called Snake Wrangling for Kids. http://www.briggs.net.nz/log/writing/snake-wrangling-for-kids/ As you can probably guess it is aimed at young coders and so starts with the real basics, but it is easy to read and, IMHO, a great resource. It is for Python. There are also some cool tools available in Ubuntu that are very helpful too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly http://www.ubuntugeek.com/acire-browse-python-code-snippets-quickly-and-easily.html HTH And have fun. Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support for family friends
Thanks, couple of questions: On 24 March 2011 17:00, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 24 March 2011 07:42, Byte Soup bytes...@gmail.com wrote: Do any of you have friends and family not living nearby, who use Ubuntu and you provide remote support to them. What do you use? Teamviewer, VNC, webex? What would you recommend and whats your experiences? At mums house when I installed the Ubuntu PC:- 1) Install ssh-server, create my user account, add my ssh key so I can logon remotely Ive not done much in the way of ssh keys, I looked at the guide on the Ubuntu wiki here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys and it seems the you always generate a id_rsa.pub file, this is the one you put onto your mums machine and copied it into the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file? It seems if you add a new ssh key into seahorse it always generates a file called id_rsa.pub and id_rsa, renaming old ones to .1 etc, is that correct? When you generate your keys is it always done as the user you are logged in as? For example my user name on my machine might be curtis but I may want to create a username login on my friends machine as support is that possible and still able to generate a key? 2) Enable remote desktop sharing in Ubuntu via the usual GUI options 3) Register a dynamic hostname with dyndns.org 4) Install and configure ddclient to connect and register with dyndns.org for the chosen hostname Total time spent: 5 minutes, plus 1 hour mostly drinking tea, chatting to my mum. At my house 1) Phone rings! Hello Alan, it's Mum, can you help me? Sure, one moment 2) Open a terminal and type:- vncviewer -via mums.dynamicdyns.org localhost *bam* I see her desktop over an encrypted ssh tunnel. No ports exposed her end other than ssh, and only key-based logon allowed. Win! Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support for family friends
I believe ssh keys are generated from hardware I'd's, things like mac address etc. So I would expect if you created a new users, the old key would still work. Bodsda Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Byte Soup bytes...@gmail.com Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:47:38 To: UK Ubuntu Talkubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support for family friends -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Programming in Python User Interface
Dive Into Python is available on-line (at diveintopython.org) either to read or download in PDF format. Python is indeed a good language to start with, although C++, C#, or Java are far more widely used in the commercial world. If you are serious about using Python, when you feel you have got the hang of the language you should download the source code for an open source project that is written in Python to look at real code, modify it, and perhaps summit changes or bug fixes. Good luck! Currently I'm jobless and want to help the Linux community with what I can, but I don't think I will be 100% of use, due to the fact that if I get a job I'll find it hard to be available at all times online or for meeting face-to-face. The other, being that I might get accepted into University but most likely not because I've failed to get accepted for the third time I'm trying to learn any Programming language. I heard Python is good for beginners and that's where I want to start Will be getting this book from Waterstones soon - I've ordered it:* *Dive Into Python (Mark Pilgrim) I'm having difficulties and need just a little bit of assistance in how to start with the basics then I think I will become a lot better since I have great appreciation and curiosity for technical things So I'll be very grateful if that support is provided -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Google account cracked
Hi All It appears that last night my google account got cracked and some pillock from Mexico has sent an email from it. If you've received an email from me within the last 12 hours, please delete it.. Sorry Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support for family friends
SSH keys are created by producing a pair of cryptographically equivelent numbers with a size of (usually) 1024 or 2048 bits (I think!) long. When performing a complex equation, the result of encrypting one with the other returns the same value. It is not linked to a hardware value. You can share the same private key around all the machines you own and trust, and put the public key into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys of the accounts you are trusted to access. Typically, I create a new account with my username the same everywhere, but you may want to set it up differently. Remember, network access (such as port forwarding the VNC port) does not require you to be in the same account as the user. If you need to act as the user, you can login with your account and type sudo su - USERNAME where username is the person you are supporting. The hyphen in the su command means pretend I just logged in as them. If you are supporting a lot of machines, I'd start looking at creating a ~/.ssh/config file, but from the sounds of things, that's a while off yet! All the best, -- Jon The Nice Guy Spriggs On 25 Mar 2011 08:51, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: I believe ssh keys are generated from hardware I'd's, things like mac address etc. So I would expect if you created a new users, the old key would still work. Bodsda Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Byte Soup bytes...@gmail.com Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:47:38 To: UK Ubuntu Talkubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support for family friends -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Android Slates/Tablets......
Hi everybody, sorry its taken so long to answer, didnt get much computer time yesterday. I really appreciate the messages. I am going to go in and have a look at the ones you mentioned, see how I get on with them. I did a search for Michael Garrets list, and didnt realise there were so many. Than k you again, that has been really helpful. John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support for family friends
Thanks Jon On 25 March 2011 09:41, Jon Spriggs j...@sprig.gs wrote: SSH keys are created by producing a pair of cryptographically equivelent numbers with a size of (usually) 1024 or 2048 bits (I think!) long. When performing a complex equation, the result of encrypting one with the other returns the same value. It is not linked to a hardware value. You can share the same private key around all the machines you own and trust, and put the public key into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys of the accounts you are trusted to access. Typically, I create a new account with my username the same everywhere, but you may want to set it up differently. So Id need the private key on each machine in doing the accessing *from?* Remember, network access (such as port forwarding the VNC port) does not require you to be in the same account as the user. If you need to act as the user, you can login with your account and type sudo su - USERNAME Id need to create a user called support on one of my machines, to generate a private / public key pair for the support user? where username is the person you are supporting. The hyphen in the su command means pretend I just logged in as them. If you are supporting a lot of machines, I'd start looking at creating a ~/.ssh/config file, but from the sounds of things, that's a while off yet! All the best, -- Jon The Nice Guy Spriggs On 25 Mar 2011 08:51, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: I believe ssh keys are generated from hardware I'd's, things like mac address etc. So I would expect if you created a new users, the old key would still work. Bodsda Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Byte Soup bytes...@gmail.com Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:47:38 To: UK Ubuntu Talkubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support for family friends -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support for family friends
On 25 March 2011 09:41, Jon Spriggs j...@sprig.gs wrote: You can share the same private key around all the machines you own and trust, That's not wise. If you put your private key on all your machines you trust then I only need to break into one of them to gain access to every machine your public key is on, and you will have to revoke that one key, meaning you can't ssh to anywhere until you generate new keys. More sensible is to generate a separate keypair on each client machine, and put the public keys on all the necessary targets machines. That way if I get hold of one of your computers, you only need to revoke that keypair from all the targets you ssh to, and can carry on using your other machines' keypairs with no worries. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support for family friends
On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 10:22 +, Alan Pope wrote: On 25 March 2011 09:41, Jon Spriggs j...@sprig.gs wrote: You can share the same private key around all the machines you own and trust, That's not wise. If you put your private key on all your machines you trust then I only need to break into one of them to gain access to every machine your public key is on, and you will have to revoke that one key, meaning you can't ssh to anywhere until you generate new keys. Indeed. Seconded. Concur, wholeheartedly. Just put all the keys in one authorized_keys file and copy that around. Regards, Tyler -- Privacy has to be viewed in the context of relative power. For example, the government has a lot more power than the people. So privacy for the government increases their power and increases the power imbalance between government and the people; it decreases liberty. Forced openness in government – open government laws, Freedom of Information Act filings, the recording of police officers and other government officials, WikiLeaks – reduces the power imbalance between government and the people, and increases liberty. -- Bruce Schneier -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support for family friends
Sorry just repeating my question as it might have got lost in the thread: It seems if you add a new ssh key into seahorse it always generates a file called id_rsa.pub and id_rsa, renaming old ones to .1 etc, is that correct? When you generate your keys is it always done as the user you are logged in as? For example my user name on my machine might be curtis but I may want to create a username login on my friends machine as support is that possible and still able to generate a key? Thanks On 25 March 2011 11:04, Tyler J. Wagner ty...@tolaris.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 10:22 +, Alan Pope wrote: On 25 March 2011 09:41, Jon Spriggs j...@sprig.gs wrote: You can share the same private key around all the machines you own and trust, That's not wise. If you put your private key on all your machines you trust then I only need to break into one of them to gain access to every machine your public key is on, and you will have to revoke that one key, meaning you can't ssh to anywhere until you generate new keys. Indeed. Seconded. Concur, wholeheartedly. Just put all the keys in one authorized_keys file and copy that around. Regards, Tyler -- Privacy has to be viewed in the context of relative power. For example, the government has a lot more power than the people. So privacy for the government increases their power and increases the power imbalance between government and the people; it decreases liberty. Forced openness in government – open government laws, Freedom of Information Act filings, the recording of police officers and other government officials, WikiLeaks – reduces the power imbalance between government and the people, and increases liberty. -- Bruce Schneier -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support for family friends
On 25 March 2011 12:47, Byte Soup bytes...@gmail.com wrote: It seems if you add a new ssh key into seahorse it always generates a file called id_rsa.pub and id_rsa, renaming old ones to .1 etc, is that correct? No idea. I don't use Seahorse. When you generate your keys is it always done as the user you are logged in as? For example my user name on my machine might be curtis but I may want to create a username login on my friends machine as support is that possible and still able to generate a key? I generate my key as me, my user ID, they are stored in .ssh in my home directory. If I want to logon to a remote machine which has a different user ID then I put my public key in that users folder on the remote machine. E.g. in /home/support/.ssh/authorized_keys - on the _remote_ machine. I can then do:- ssh supp...@remotehost.example.com or vncviewer -via supp...@remotehost.example.com localhost Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Programming in Python User Interface
Pythonchallange is probably not the best place for a beginner to start, unless they enjoy headaches, mysteries and extremely fast paced learning Bodsda Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Tyler J. Wagner ty...@tolaris.com Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:05:42 To: UK Ubuntu Talkubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Programming in Python User Interface The O'Reilly Learning Python book is excellent. I also recommend the Python Challenge, if you're hard enough. http://www.pythonchallenge.com/ Tyler On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 07:03 +, Ubuntu Forum wrote: Hi I've been using Ubuntu for around 1 year now I'm 21 years old Currently I'm jobless and want to help the Linux community with what I can, but I don't think I will be 100% of use, due to the fact that if I get a job I'll find it hard to be available at all times online or for meeting face-to-face. The other, being that I might get accepted into University but most likely not because I've failed to get accepted for the third time I'm trying to learn any Programming language. I heard Python is good for beginners and that's where I want to start Will be getting this book from Waterstones soon - I've ordered it: Dive Into Python (Mark Pilgrim) I'm having difficulties and need just a little bit of assistance in how to start with the basics then I think I will become a lot better since I have great appreciation and curiosity for technical things So I'll be very grateful if that support is provided Abdulrahman -- Freedom of thought is best promoted by the gradual illumination of men's minds, which follows from the advance of science. -- Charles Darwin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Programming in Python User Interface
On 25 March 2011 10:02, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: Pythonchallange is probably not the best place for a beginner to start, unless they enjoy headaches, mysteries and extremely fast paced learning That totally depends on the person and how they learn... for me, pythonchallenge with hints and a little help from a more experienced programmer friend really helped me to get familiar with the language. the Euler Project[0] is also good fun if you have more of a maths background... and the learning curve is not so steep! After that, learning to google effectively was very important. [0] http://projecteuler.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Natty bug ....
Hi there I don't know how to report the following: yesterday's Natty daily build worked fine, but after installing to a hard drive, the wired internet connection was not picked up and it seems impossible to get it connected. On re-booting into 10.10, the wired connection is no longer working until I have powered off the computer completely for over 20 seconds. Plugging a wi-fi dongle in does allow connection, so I guess the connection manager is not the right place for a bug report. An thoughts on how I report this one? Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] bulk graphics processing problem
On 19/03/2011 23:10, Avi wrote: On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 15:01:05 + John Levintechnola...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, I need several series of numbered icons, from about 1 to 111 in different colours. There must be a way of automating this through the command line using imagemagick, but I haven't found a way of doing so, and my google - fu is giving very poor returns today. Any one got any ideas? With no testing whatsoever, and only a passing (but google-enhanced) familiarity with imagemagick, this is how I'd do it in Perl. Basically, define an array of acceptable colours, then iterate through the numbers 1 through 111. For each, pick two different colours at random to use as foreground and background colours and create an icon. I don't even know if the imagemagick command really does what I want it to - I got it from [0] - and this could be done in any language, I just can't remember how to do arrays in bash. #! /usr/bin/perl my @colours=(red,green,blue,orange); for (my $i = 1; $i= 111; $i++) { # Pick a random colour for fg and bg out of the array: my $fgcolour = $colours(int rand($#colours +1)); my $bgcolour = $colours(int rand($#colours +1)); # Check they're not equal while ($bgcolour == $fgoclour){ $bgcolour = $colours(int rand($#colours +1)); } # Concoct a command my $cmd=convert -size 16x16 xc:$colour ; $cmd .= -pointsize 8 -fill green ; $cmd .= -stroke black ; $cmd .= -draw 'text 10,55 \$i\' ; $cmd .= icon_$i.jpg ; # Run it `$cmd`; } [0] http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/draw/#specifics Avi, many many thanks! The code above doesn't work straight off, but I've managed to get it running (I don't know perl) and now have a working script. Am doing some tweaking and will post my version up when that's done. John -- John Levin http://www.anterotesis.com johnle...@joindiaspora.com http://twitter.com/anterotesis -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] RSI
Hello folks, Am sure as all of you are computer users, some probably quite prolific (as coders etc), that some of you have had experience with RSI. I have had a bad wrist for a few years now on and off. It always seemed to go away but recently (last 4-6months) it seems to be here and not going away. Basically I get a pain in the inside corner of my wrist when it is bent back, i.e. in a position to do push ups. I cannot push things (e.g. doing push ups) without it hurting and shaking it (shaking inside-out socks) hurts too. I have tried wearing a wrist strap (like a sports one) for the last few weeks but it doesn't seem to be making much difference. I am a CAD user by day, which is very mouse-dependant, but also do an amount of typing, but I think the mouse usage is the main culprit as its always semi-hovering as I manoeuvre the mouse. I am wondering if anyone else has had experiences like this and how they got rid of it? Maybe those little cushioned mouse mats, where you rest your wrist on a small cushion would help. Thanks, Jon Reynolds (j0nr) www.jcrdevelopments.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Android Slates/Tablets......
On 24/03/2011 13:50, John MM wrote: I have been given some money and I have been thinking about getting an Android Tablet, but just have no idea what would be worth getting. Anybody any idea. I have about £300 to spend. I dont like Apple at all. Thanks I've got an archaos 10, running Android, 10 inch screen. Cost £300. I'm quite happy with it, though I do prefer proper keyboards to those screen things. When I was looking at tablets around Xmas, I tried the Samsung Galaxy in a couple of shops, and really didn't like it. Expensive, misconfigured (that could have been the shops, but I did try it in two different places), and the screen (7) was on the small side. Cons of archaos: it's own limited app market, tho' you can install google's version (slightly tricky). The pdf viewers aren't brilliant. But it very much depends on what you want to use it for. HTH John -- John Levin http://www.anterotesis.com johnle...@joindiaspora.com http://twitter.com/anterotesis -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] RSI
A relative of mine gets RSI pains when using a mouse for just a few minutes. She just can not use one. However she gets on very well with a pen and tablet no problem at all, and using it on Ubuntu right back to 5.10 and onwards and upwards has never been a problem at all with it. Regards, Andy. On 25 March 2011 16:22, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 March 2011 16:14, Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.com wrote: Hello folks, Am sure as all of you are computer users, some probably quite prolific (as coders etc), that some of you have had experience with RSI. I have had a bad wrist for a few years now on and off. It always seemed to go away but recently (last 4-6months) it seems to be here and not going away. Basically I get a pain in the inside corner of my wrist when it is bent back, i.e. in a position to do push ups. I cannot push things (e.g. doing push ups) without it hurting and shaking it (shaking inside-out socks) hurts too. I have tried wearing a wrist strap (like a sports one) for the last few weeks but it doesn't seem to be making much difference. I am a CAD user by day, which is very mouse-dependant, but also do an amount of typing, but I think the mouse usage is the main culprit as its always semi-hovering as I manoeuvre the mouse. I am wondering if anyone else has had experiences like this and how they got rid of it? Maybe those little cushioned mouse mats, where you rest your wrist on a small cushion would help. There are lots of things you can try: make sure that you're sitting at a comfortable angle (I had this a while ago because my seat was too low); try a wrist rest, either as part of a mouse mat or separately; if all else fails, consider an alternative pointing device like a trackball or even a graphics pad. s/ -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood My CV: http://bit.ly/sfg http://bit.ly/sfgreenwood_cv_new_cv Is this your sanderling? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] RSI
On 25 March 2011 16:14, Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.com wrote: Hello folks, Am sure as all of you are computer users, some probably quite prolific (as coders etc), that some of you have had experience with RSI. I have had a bad wrist for a few years now on and off. It always seemed to go away but recently (last 4-6months) it seems to be here and not going away. Basically I get a pain in the inside corner of my wrist when it is bent back, i.e. in a position to do push ups. I cannot push things (e.g. doing push ups) without it hurting and shaking it (shaking inside-out socks) hurts too. I have tried wearing a wrist strap (like a sports one) for the last few weeks but it doesn't seem to be making much difference. I am a CAD user by day, which is very mouse-dependant, but also do an amount of typing, but I think the mouse usage is the main culprit as its always semi-hovering as I manoeuvre the mouse. I am wondering if anyone else has had experiences like this and how they got rid of it? Maybe those little cushioned mouse mats, where you rest your wrist on a small cushion would help. Definitely everyone should use a wrist support so your wrist is not bent backwards when using the mouse. If you are employed tell your employer about the problem (if you have not already) and he should fall over himself to get you all possible aids in order that you will not sue him. Colin Thanks, Jon Reynolds (j0nr) www.jcrdevelopments.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] RSI
On 25 March 2011 16:14, Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.com wrote: Hello folks, Am sure as all of you are computer users, some probably quite prolific (as coders etc), that some of you have had experience with RSI. I have had a bad wrist for a few years now on and off. It always seemed to go away but recently (last 4-6months) it seems to be here and not going away. Basically I get a pain in the inside corner of my wrist when it is bent back, i.e. in a position to do push ups. I cannot push things (e.g. doing push ups) without it hurting and shaking it (shaking inside-out socks) hurts too. I have tried wearing a wrist strap (like a sports one) for the last few weeks but it doesn't seem to be making much difference. I am a CAD user by day, which is very mouse-dependant, but also do an amount of typing, but I think the mouse usage is the main culprit as its always semi-hovering as I manoeuvre the mouse. I am wondering if anyone else has had experiences like this and how they got rid of it? Maybe those little cushioned mouse mats, where you rest your wrist on a small cushion would help. Thanks, Jon Reynolds (j0nr) www.jcrdevelopments.com I've suffered from RSI on and off over the years. My self-prescribed treatments have included using differently shaped peripherals in order to give the affected joint different angles of use, e.g. alternating between a Microsoft ergonomic keyboard and a standard keyboard, different-shaped mice, and a few years back, when my lower back was giving me problems I alternated every 30 mins or so between an office chair and a space-hopper-style exercise ball. One other tip, it's well worth considering professional (or good amateur) massage on the affected limbm and even beyond it. While it may feel like the pain is very local, in say the wrist, having a thorough massage right up to the shoulder and beyond can work wonders, at least in my experience. Oh and if you go for shiatsu, try to find the real Japanese thumb-pressure kind, not the trendy holistic derivatives commonly found on Clapham High Street ;) Of course, any treatment should really be combined with rest, but that's not an option for many of us, I know. Best of luck with the treatment. Roger -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RSI
Well thanks for the replies. I think my first action will be a lad under the wrist as this seems to make most sense to me. It just feels like I've been holding my hand slightly upward over a mouse (sometimes jiggling furiously all day) for too long. Of course there's always the possibility that it's an unrelated injury but that's hard to diagnose. Thanks again. Jon Reynolds (j0nr) www.jcrdevelopments.com Jon Reynolds www.jcrdevelopments.com Roger Lancefield rlancefi...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 March 2011 16:14, Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.com wrote: Hello folks, Am sure as all of you are computer users, some probably quite prolific (as coders etc), that some of you have had experience with RSI. I have had a bad wrist for a few years now on and off. It always seemed to go away but recently (last 4-6months) it seems to be here and not going away. Basically I get a pain in the inside corner of my wrist when it is bent back, i.e. in a position to do push ups. I cannot push things (e.g. doing push ups) without it hurting and shaking it (shaking inside-out socks) hurts too. I have tried wearing a wrist strap (like a sports one) for the last few weeks but it doesn't seem to be making much difference. I am a CAD user by day, which is very mouse-dependant, but also do an amount of typing, but I think the mouse usage is the main culprit as its always semi-hovering as I manoeuvre the mouse. I am wondering if anyone else has had experiences like this and how they got rid of it? Maybe those little cushioned mouse mats, where you rest your wrist on a small cushion would help. Thanks, Jon Reynolds (j0nr) www.jcrdevelopments.com I've suffered from RSI on and off over the years. My self-prescribed treatments have included using differently shaped peripherals in order to give the affected joint different angles of use, e.g. alternating between a Microsoft ergonomic keyboard and a standard keyboard, different-shaped mice, and a few years back, when my lower back was giving me problems I alternated every 30 mins or so between an office chair and a space-hopper-style exercise ball. One other tip, it's well worth considering professional (or good amateur) massage on the affected limbm and even beyond it. While it may feel like the pain is very local, in say the wrist, having a thorough massage right up to the shoulder and beyond can work wonders, at least in my experience. Oh and if you go for shiatsu, try to find the real Japanese thumb-pressure kind, not the trendy holistic derivatives commonly found on Clapham High Street ;) Of course, any treatment should really be combined with rest, but that's not an option for many of us, I know. Best of luck with the treatment. Roger -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/