Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people
On 11/03/12 21:42, Barry Drake wrote: On 11/03/12 12:44, Alan Pope wrote: Assume you only have a short while to demo Ubuntu to them - maybe 5 to 10 minutes - you don't want to spend all day boring them and you don't want to eat up your/their family/work time. Among the other things suggested, I'd open a couple of apps in different workspaces just to show off the Workspace Switcher. I think it is easy for the workspace switcher to be seen by a *novice* as an item which in their mind, adds uncertainty or complication and might be a negative factor in a brief demo. For many years windows novices have been told, whenever 'Linux' is mentioned, that Linux is only for geeks, not for others like them. I get this repeated to me literally whenever I ask in retail outlets or ask any random windows self made expert. I would have misgivings about showing the workspace switcher to a real novice at an *early* stage, it would run counter to what they had seen in the first few minutes of great simplicity. -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people
On 11/03/12 22:25, Alan Bell wrote: In firefox we set up his webmail and pinned that as an application tab as a separate item, I am not sure how that is done, can we have a short separate thread on that, alan please? thx -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people
On 11/03/12 22:25, Alan Bell wrote: I noticed that Dad was peering at the screen a bit (I got him a new 17 screen to replace the 14 screen so there is more room on it, but similar dot size) so I used ccsm to set the mouse bindings for the enhanced zoom plugin to super+button4 and button5 and turned off the shortcuts overlay in Unity. He loves that you can now do super+mousewheel to magnify anything instantly. This is probably the single best feature of the whole desktop. this sounds a pretty neat approach which - again - I would appreciate maybe further information on, so I can add it to my offerings too. thx -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people
On 11/03/12 22:25, Alan Bell wrote: I set up a show Alan button on the desktop which makes a keys based ssh session to my home server on a static IP address and forwards his port 22 to a port here. I can then ssh back to him and log in as a user I created on his machine, I can also forward port 5900 and request a desktop share or do other stuff. The important thing is that his end initiates the connection as I have a static IP address and he doesn't, and it is zero effort from his end. I wish this was a bit more built in, I know desktop sharing is built in, but it is mostly initiated from the wrong end. It should be I want to share my desktop with $IP address which is set up and waiting for a connection with a one-time password. The person needing support should not be the one needing to know their external IP address and what port to open. This sounds just great. If it was more built in I would certainly try to use it to support friends I have. Until then, I use teamviewer as a non commercial (non paying) user, and that is good, albeit proprietary. -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people
On 12/03/12 08:38, alan c wrote: On 11/03/12 22:25, Alan Bell wrote: In firefox we set up his webmail and pinned that as an application tab as a separate item, I am not sure how that is done, can we have a short separate thread on that, alan please? thx right click a tab and pin as application tab, that means it reduces to just the favicon and always loads on startup Alan. -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, find out about our new name and look at http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people
On 11/03/12 22:41, Barry Drake wrote: Alan, don't agree at all with this ah, maybe you aren't talking about 12.04? On Precise, it just works intuitively (once you've got used to lack of menus etc.) Regards,Barry. yes, this is all 12.04. The apps lens is nasty, if you have a hundred or so applications it just presents a few in the installed apps category, which you can expand to see a random heap of stuff. The dash is great if you know the name of the application you want, and like to type it. If you want to go to the apps lens and browse throught the applications you have no idea what an application does because it is not in a category. Filters are the wrong place to put the categories. it could look like this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/appmenulens.png but it isn't designed that way. Alan. -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, find out about our new name and look at http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people
On 12/03/12 10:31, Alan Bell wrote: it could look like this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/appmenulens.png but it isn't designed that way. Oh yes, that's really nice. I suppose you've suggested it? And the nice Canonical folk are not interested? Where can we petition to get something like it included? Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people
On 12/03/12 14:35, Barry Drake wrote: On 12/03/12 10:31, Alan Bell wrote: it could look like this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/appmenulens.png but it isn't designed that way. Oh yes, that's really nice. I suppose you've suggested it? And the nice Canonical folk are not interested? Where can we petition to get something like it included? Regards,Barry. yeah, I suggested it. The best way is not to petition it or anything, but to implement it as a python based lens and submit it as an extra. I will do that at some stage, but it would be great if someone beat me to it. The lens I have is functional, but an ugly hack of the default apps lens. Since most of what I did was rip out code someone else spent time writing I kind of doubt it would ever get in like it is, plus it is in Vala which I don't really understand very well. code is here, help yourself https://code.launchpad.net/~alanbell/+junk/appmenu-lens Alan. -- Libertus Solutions http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Flossie 2012 CfP deadline extended
Flossie 2012 is a free, two-day event for women who use or are otherwise interested in Free and Open Source Software (FLOSS) in Digital Arts or Open Data, Knowledge and Education. Details here: http://www.flossie.org/?page_id=175 Link to submission form here: http://www.flossie.org/openconf Register to attend here: http://flossie2012.eventbrite.co.uk/ *Friday 25 May and Saturday 26 May 2012* Queen Mary, University of London, Mile End Road, E1 4NS *Submissions DEADLINE NOW EXTENDED to 19 March 2012 * Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server 11.10 -- how do I enable remot access via Putty?
Hi, I thought I was quite experienced at administering a Ubuntu Server, but I am totally confused by the graphical desktop for Ubuntu Server 11.10. I need to be able to remotely connect to the server with Putty (my choice for remote access to servers). But how do I enable this remote access -- when I try I get a message saying network connection refused. Do I need to disable/configure a firewall? How would I do that? Hoping someone can assist. Best wishes, Alex -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server 11.10 -- how do I enable remot access via Putty?
On 2012-03-12 17:01, Alexander Birchall wrote: I thought I was quite experienced at administering a Ubuntu Server, but I am totally confused by the graphical desktop for Ubuntu Server 11.10. I don't believe there is a GUI for server by default. Are you sure you used the server disk? I need to be able to remotely connect to the server with Putty (my choice for remote access to servers). But how do I enable this remote access -- when I try I get a message saying network connection refused. Do I need to disable/configure a firewall? How would I do that? You need to install the openssh-server package on the server. You can do that during the install process by selecting SSH Server, or after the install with: sudo apt-get install openssh-server Regards, Tyler -- If we confuse dissent with disloyalty — if we deny the right of the individual to be wrong, unpopular, eccentric or unorthodox — if we deny the essence of racial equality then hundreds of millions in Asia and Africa who are shopping about for a new allegiance will conclude that we are concerned to defend a myth and our present privileged status. Every act that denies or limits the freedom of the individual in this country costs us the ... confidence of men and women who aspire to that freedom and independence of which we speak and for which our ancestors fought. -- Edward R. Murrow -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server 11.10 -- how do I enable remot access via Putty?
Hi Alex, sudo ufw allow ssh if your using ufw firewalls on both client and server. However my guess is that the problem is likely connected to password permissions, after exchanging keys. The Ubuntu help documentation is very useful in this area : https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html John On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 17:01 +, Alexander Birchall wrote: Hi, I thought I was quite experienced at administering a Ubuntu Server, but I am totally confused by the graphical desktop for Ubuntu Server 11.10. I need to be able to remotely connect to the server with Putty (my choice for remote access to servers). But how do I enable this remote access -- when I try I get a message saying network connection refused. Do I need to disable/configure a firewall? How would I do that? Hoping someone can assist. Best wishes, Alex -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people
- Mensaje original - On 11/03/12 22:25, Alan Bell wrote: I set up a show Alan button on the desktop which makes a keys based ssh session to my home server on a static IP address and forwards his port 22 to a port here. I can then ssh back to him and log in as a user I created on his machine, I can also forward port 5900 and request a desktop share or do other stuff. The important thing is that his end initiates the connection as I have a static IP address and he doesn't, and it is zero effort from his end. I wish this was a bit more built in, I know desktop sharing is built in, but it is mostly initiated from the wrong end. It should be I want to share my desktop with $IP address which is set up and waiting for a connection with a one-time password. The person needing support should not be the one needing to know their external IP address and what port to open. This sounds just great. If it was more built in I would certainly try to use it to support friends I have. Until then, I use teamviewer as a non commercial (non paying) user, and that is good, albeit proprietary. -- alan cocks ditto. I had heard of remmina or something of the sort being easy but i could not get my head around that nor remotedesktop outside the network. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server 11.10 -- how do I enable remot access via Putty?
On 12/03/12 17:01, Alexander Birchall wrote: Hi, I thought I was quite experienced at administering a Ubuntu Server, but I am totally confused by the graphical desktop for Ubuntu Server 11.10. I need to be able to remotely connect to the server with Putty (my choice for remote access to servers). But how do I enable this remote access -- when I try I get a message saying network connection refused. Do I need to disable/configure a firewall? How would I do that? Hoping someone can assist. Best wishes, Alex Graphical desktop on a server? Did I miss something? Anyway, you should be able to just install the openssh-server package (or when installing there should be an option to install SSH server amongst the server types). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
