Re: [ubuntu-uk] Any Xubuntu users?

2008-05-22 Thread James Grabham
Its great, but its not what Id call lightweight, still good when you want
something a bit nippier than Ubuntu or Kubuntu, but If I'm using an old box,
I'd prefer Arch with Fluxbox or XFCE (or maybe even KDEmod)

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:36 AM, Russell Green 
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 Craig wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 11:21 +0100, John Levin wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Just out of curiosity (and because I'm very impressed with it), are any
  of the British Ubuntu community running the XFCE variant Xubuntu?
 
  John
 
 
  I have it on my laptop on which I use for web design. I was very
 impressed with it too, although I think it is a bit odd that they use
 firefox as the default web browser as I found it very slow and memory
 intensive. It is pretty amazing how fast it runs (loads up in about 1
 minute) on my Pentium II which struggles to run Windows NT.
  This is the kind of thing we should be trying to tell people about - who
  knows what people have in their attic dismissed as unusable. Even if you
  do have to have a book with you when using it for when it's sorting
  itself out (and at least it does sort itself out) it saved at least two
  of my laptops from the skip.
 
  Craig
 
 
 

 I used it on an old pc I had before installing puppy.Its ok, but wasnt
 really light enough for the pc specs.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Any Xubuntu users?

2008-05-22 Thread Gavin Ford
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 05:06:21PM +0100, Gavin Ford wrote:
 On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 02:52:03PM +0100, Andrew Oakley wrote:
  The Intel X driver was substantially improved/re-written for Hardy so 
  you might want to at least try a LiveCD.
 
 I've been updating all the way, the problem is still here in Hardy.
 
 The LiveCD is a good idea, I'll give it a go and see if it's something
 in my old xorg.conf.

I did test with a LiveCD and the problem had vanished.

Poking about I found the root of the issue, it was down to me still using the
older i810 driver in my xorg rather than the newer intel one.

Problem solved.  :)

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[ubuntu-uk] Any Xubuntu users?

2008-05-21 Thread John Levin
Hi,

Just out of curiosity (and because I'm very impressed with it), are any 
of the British Ubuntu community running the XFCE variant Xubuntu?

John

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Any Xubuntu users?

2008-05-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
Yes i have only just installed xubuntu 2 days ago! i have to say i have
found it quite fast! then again i havent installed everything i had on
ubuntu hardy ( an upgrade from gutsy+myth)
it takes a bit of getting used to!

But im liking it so farits minimalistic!


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 Hi,

 Just out of curiosity (and because I'm very impressed with it), are any
 of the British Ubuntu community running the XFCE variant Xubuntu?

 John

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Any Xubuntu users?

2008-05-21 Thread Roger Lancefield
Hi John,

I had Xubuntu 7.04 and then 7.10 running on an old (circa 2001) 1.9GHz
P4 (with 1GB RAM, 40GB HD). It ran very well indeed, and I was really
impressed with the way it gave my ageing kit an Indian summer packed
with Linux power and goodness.

Inevitably, the elderly E-IDE drive (which must have been 150 years
old in disc years) took a unilateral and executive decision to
spontaneously retire, but I still  have the sweet memories ;)

No doubt Xubuntu is a great option for extending the life of many old
laptops out there, as well as providing a lighter-weight option for
current entry-level spec laptops.

I might also be a good option for people with local development and
file-sharing type servers, who want to provide non-specialist
co-workers with a GUI onto the system, but don't want to clobber their
Celeron and its 512MB RAM with a full GNOME or KDE install ;)

I'm sure you're aware of this, but if you find yourself missing any
tools from GNOME, you can install most of them without problems on
Xubuntu. At least, I installed several GNOME-specific admin tools and
apps without any problems.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Any Xubuntu users?

2008-05-21 Thread Gavin Ford
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:21:34AM +0100, John Levin wrote:
 Just out of curiosity (and because I'm very impressed with it), are any 
 of the British Ubuntu community running the XFCE variant Xubuntu?

I use parts of Xubuntu and Ubuntu.  I installed from an Ubuntu 7.04 disc and
later removed ubuntu-desktop and installed xubuntu-desktop.

Using Fluxbox as a Window manager and the Thunar file manager from XFCE 
rather than Gnome.

There are lots of good parts to XFCE, but it's still a little heavyweight for 
me.  I've also never been a fan of the Start Menu setup, I prefer the right
click the desktop for a menu way.

I still use the gnome-settings-daemon rather than xfce-mcs-manager as the XFCE
tool causes strange graphical defects in Firefox for me.

Also the XFCE settings tool lacks the GTK theme colour tweaking the Gnome one
has.

If it wasn't for the weird graphical defects, I'd drop Gnome and stick with
the XFCE stuff.

These defects aren't limited to Ubuntu, I get the same with Debian, the common
feature is an Intel graphics setup so it could be a problem between the Intel X
driver and XFCE if other people aren't seeing it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Any Xubuntu users?

2008-05-21 Thread alan c
Gavin Ford wrote:
 On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:21:34AM +0100, John Levin wrote:
 Just out of curiosity (and because I'm very impressed with it), are any 
 of the British Ubuntu community running the XFCE variant Xubuntu?
 
 I use parts of Xubuntu and Ubuntu.  I installed from an Ubuntu 7.04 disc and
 later removed ubuntu-desktop and installed xubuntu-desktop.
 
 Using Fluxbox as a Window manager and the Thunar file manager from XFCE 
 rather than Gnome.
 
 There are lots of good parts to XFCE, but it's still a little heavyweight for 
 me.  I've also never been a fan of the Start Menu setup, I prefer the right
 click the desktop for a menu way.
 
 I still use the gnome-settings-daemon rather than xfce-mcs-manager as the XFCE
 tool causes strange graphical defects in Firefox for me.

I am an appreciative and occasional user. I am not fluent with much 
clever stuff and have often chosen the rather lazy  option of also 
installing ubuntu-desktop (in addition to xubuntu-desktop) and if 
anything difficult (for me) occurs, I can log into gnome and be on 
more familiar ground, albeit more slowly, while sorting something out
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Any Xubuntu users?

2008-05-21 Thread Andrew Oakley
John Levin wrote:
 Just out of curiosity (and because I'm very impressed with it), are any 
 of the British Ubuntu community running the XFCE variant Xubuntu?

We use it at work to get a vaguely up-to-date supported distro on an 
elderly laptop. No idea quite how elderly, because whoever set the BIOS 
password has long departed the company, but sufficiently elderly to not 
have built-in WiFi. It works superbly.

Gavin Ford wrote:
 feature is an Intel graphics setup so it could be a problem between the Intel 
 X
 driver and XFCE if other people aren't seeing it.

The Intel X driver was substantially improved/re-written for Hardy so 
you might want to at least try a LiveCD.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Any Xubuntu users?

2008-05-21 Thread Gavin Ford
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 02:52:03PM +0100, Andrew Oakley wrote:
 The Intel X driver was substantially improved/re-written for Hardy so 
 you might want to at least try a LiveCD.

I've been updating all the way, the problem is still here in Hardy.

The LiveCD is a good idea, I'll give it a go and see if it's something
in my old xorg.conf.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Any Xubuntu users?

2008-05-21 Thread Craig
On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 11:21 +0100, John Levin wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Just out of curiosity (and because I'm very impressed with it), are any 
 of the British Ubuntu community running the XFCE variant Xubuntu?
 
 John

I have it on my laptop on which I use for web design. I was very impressed with 
it too, although I think it is a bit odd that they use firefox as the default 
web browser as I found it very slow and memory intensive. It is pretty amazing 
how fast it runs (loads up in about 1 minute) on my Pentium II which struggles 
to run Windows NT.
This is the kind of thing we should be trying to tell people about - who
knows what people have in their attic dismissed as unusable. Even if you
do have to have a book with you when using it for when it's sorting
itself out (and at least it does sort itself out) it saved at least two
of my laptops from the skip.

Craig


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Any Xubuntu users?

2008-05-21 Thread Russell Green
Craig wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 11:21 +0100, John Levin wrote:
   
 Hi,

 Just out of curiosity (and because I'm very impressed with it), are any 
 of the British Ubuntu community running the XFCE variant Xubuntu?

 John
 

 I have it on my laptop on which I use for web design. I was very impressed 
 with it too, although I think it is a bit odd that they use firefox as the 
 default web browser as I found it very slow and memory intensive. It is 
 pretty amazing how fast it runs (loads up in about 1 minute) on my Pentium II 
 which struggles to run Windows NT.
 This is the kind of thing we should be trying to tell people about - who
 knows what people have in their attic dismissed as unusable. Even if you
 do have to have a book with you when using it for when it's sorting
 itself out (and at least it does sort itself out) it saved at least two
 of my laptops from the skip.

 Craig


   

I used it on an old pc I had before installing puppy.Its ok, but wasnt 
really light enough for the pc specs.

Russell

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