[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server Upgrade -- how long should I wait for server to restart?

2011-02-22 Thread Alexander Birchall

Hi,
 
I have just gone through the procedure of upgrading from Ubuntu server Hardy 
Heron 8.04 to the latest version (10.04 LTS), using the upgrade manager.  The 
procedure took a couple of hours to complete, and then I was asked to restart 
the server.  This I did, but that was half an hour ago.  How long should I wait 
for the server to return to life?
 
Many thanks.
 
Alex Birchall
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server Upgrade -- how long should I wait for server to restart?

2011-02-22 Thread John Stevenson
On 22 February 2011 10:23, Alexander Birchall tengallon...@hotmail.co.ukwrote:

  Hi,

 I have just gone through the procedure of upgrading from Ubuntu server
 Hardy Heron 8.04 to the latest version (10.04 LTS), using the upgrade
 manager.  The procedure took a couple of hours to complete, and then I was
 asked to restart the server.  This I did, but that was half an hour ago.
 How long should I wait for the server to return to life?

 Many thanks.

 Alex Birchall


Hello Alex,
How long you should wait probably depends on what the server is doing now.
You request does not state what state the server is currenty in, so it is
difficult to advise.

Has the server actually rebooted or is it still thinking about it?
Did you select reboot or shutdown ?
How far in the boot process did the server get after the reboot?
Did you see the the bios screen?
Is there anything showing on the monitor, such as a little white flashing
cursor?
Do you get a response if you ping the server?

If there is no disk activity and you cant ping the server and there is
nothing on the screen, then it sounds like a manual reboot is in order.  If
so, then try Ctrl-Alt-Del keyboard combination as a more elegant way to shut
down the server (compared to the reset button).

The more information you can give us then the better chance we have of
giving you something other than general information.

Thank you
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server Upgrade -- how long should I wait for server to restart?

2011-02-22 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 11:44 +, John Stevenson wrote:

 How long you should wait probably depends on what the server is doing
 now.  You request does not state what state the server is currenty in,
 so it is difficult to advise.

Indeed. Your description implies that you're not near the server and
don't have a networked KVM on it. I don't recommend remotely upgrading
without that.

The best possible outcome (which doesn't involve you going to the
colocation room) is that the server is running an fsck right now and
will come online once that's done. Otherwise, you need to get on a
keyboard and monitor and see what is happening.

Regards,
Tyler

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server Upgrade -- how long should I wait for server to restart?

2011-02-22 Thread Alexander Birchall

Hi John and Tyler,
 
The situation is that the server was moved to a virtual platform a few months 
ago.  Since then I only have remote access if the server has fully restarted.  
If a problem such as this develops, then I have to rely on our IT department 
(where linux skills are thin on the ground) who in turn rely on the providers 
of the virtual platform.

1.  The providers of the virtual platform report that they have restarted the 
server, but this has not restored my access.
 
2.  I do not get a response from pinging the server -- however, I have heard 
that ping has been disabled by our network administrators.
 
3.  This is what the monitor was displaying:
 
Gave up waiting for root device.  Common problems:
 -- Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline)
  -- Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?)
  -- Check root= (did the system wait for the right device?)
 -- Missing modules (cat /proc/modules: ls /dev)
 Alert! /dev/mapper/eprints.mdx.ac.uk-root does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!
 
 BusyBox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built-in shell (ash)
 Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
 
 (initramfs) _
 
Many thanks for you assistance!
 
Alex
 
 



Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:44:23 +
From: j...@jr0cket.com
To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server Upgrade -- how long should I wait for 
server to restart?


On 22 February 2011 10:23, Alexander Birchall tengallon...@hotmail.co.uk 
wrote:


Hi,
 
I have just gone through the procedure of upgrading from Ubuntu server Hardy 
Heron 8.04 to the latest version (10.04 LTS), using the upgrade manager.  The 
procedure took a couple of hours to complete, and then I was asked to restart 
the server.  This I did, but that was half an hour ago.  How long should I wait 
for the server to return to life?
 
Many thanks.
 
Alex Birchall


Hello Alex,
How long you should wait probably depends on what the server is doing now.  You 
request does not state what state the server is currenty in, so it is difficult 
to advise.

Has the server actually rebooted or is it still thinking about it?
Did you select reboot or shutdown ?
How far in the boot process did the server get after the reboot?  
Did you see the the bios screen?
Is there anything showing on the monitor, such as a little white flashing 
cursor?
Do you get a response if you ping the server?

If there is no disk activity and you cant ping the server and there is nothing 
on the screen, then it sounds like a manual reboot is in order.  If so, then 
try Ctrl-Alt-Del keyboard combination as a more elegant way to shut down the 
server (compared to the reset button).

The more information you can give us then the better chance we have of giving 
you something other than general information.

Thank you
-- 
John Stevenson
Lean Agile Consultant / Coach
jr0cket.com  |  leanagilemachine.com


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server Upgrade -- how long should I wait for server to restart?

2011-02-22 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 05:38 +, Alexander Birchall wrote:
 3.  This is what the monitor was displaying:
  
 Gave up waiting for root device.  Common problems:
  -- Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline)
   -- Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?)
   -- Check root= (did the system wait for the right device?)
  -- Missing modules (cat /proc/modules: ls /dev)
  Alert! /dev/mapper/eprints.mdx.ac.uk-root does not exist.  Dropping
 to a shell!
  
  BusyBox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built-in shell (ash)
  Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
  
  (initramfs) _

This is likely an error with Grub (especially if you switched to Grub2)
or the initramfs image. The use of /dev/mapper indicates you need the
dmsetup package. Boot it using a recovery/live CD, and install all the
booting from funny stuff packages:

apt-get install lvm2 evms dmsetup

These will rebuild the initramfs images to include support for a bunch
of special boot configurations.

I'm sorry I don't have better news for you.

Regards,
Tyler

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