Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
This is a slight tangent, but I'd like to see this but don't fancy upgrading this installation this early in the process... under WUBI can I have two versions of Ubuntu? ie. when I boot can I have Ubuntu 10.04 AND 11.04 (and obviously Windows) all as options? As it's stored in a subdirectory of the windows partition, if the answer is no I'd ask why? Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 10:55 +, Sean Miller wrote: This is a slight tangent, but I'd like to see this but don't fancy upgrading this installation this early in the process... under WUBI can I have two versions of Ubuntu? ie. when I boot can I have Ubuntu 10.04 AND 11.04 (and obviously Windows) all as options? As it's stored in a subdirectory of the windows partition, if the answer is no I'd ask why? Sean I currently am missing the ziestgiest search feature and the various menus that are missing, but these ar eall addable to the plugin so I'm not worried about that. My only current concern is the race condition where by you get no menus appearing or you get no unity at all. Again there is a lot going on in the desktop space and hopefully with all the egghead devs locked in a hotel all week these issues will be well on there way to being ironed out. -- Seek That Thy Might Know http://www.davmor2.co.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
About to write something for a VCS ICT mag about Ubuntu so thought I'd have a look at Natty - umm, not a big fan of Unity, ugly and ridiculously limited - wot, can't add stuff to the panel - what's the one at the top actually doing besides wasting space and telling me the time and that' I'm networked? Can't add move a panel? Hmmm. I'll concede that it might work well for people who want their puters to be toasters but please God don't stop offering GNOME shell alternative! Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
On 13 January 2011 19:47, gazz pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote: About to write something for a VCS ICT mag about Ubuntu so thought I'd have a look at Natty - umm, not a big fan of Unity, ugly and ridiculously limited - wot, can't add stuff to the panel - what's the one at the top actually doing besides wasting space and telling me the time and that' I'm networked? Can't add move a panel? Hmmm. I'll concede that it might work well for people who want their puters to be toasters but please God don't stop offering GNOME shell alternative! Paula Sounds like it hasn't improved from 10.10 netbook then. Just as well Gnome was there, otherwise I would have said goodbye to Ubuntu on the netbook, and I certainly don't want Unity on the desktop unless it has vastly improved. Regards, Andy. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
On 13 January 2011 19:56, Andy Braben andybra...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 January 2011 19:47, gazz pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote: About to write something for a VCS ICT mag about Ubuntu so thought I'd have a look at Natty - umm, not a big fan of Unity, ugly and ridiculously limited - wot, can't add stuff to the panel - what's the one at the top actually doing besides wasting space and telling me the time and that' I'm networked? Can't add move a panel? Hmmm. I'll concede that it might work well for people who want their puters to be toasters but please God don't stop offering GNOME shell alternative! Paula Sounds like it hasn't improved from 10.10 netbook then. Just as well Gnome was there, otherwise I would have said goodbye to Ubuntu on the netbook, and I certainly don't want Unity on the desktop unless it has vastly improved. The plan isn't to remove gnome. I think it will be interesting to see how Unity changes as it comes to release time. Anton -- Anton Piatek email: an...@piatek.co.uk blog/photos: http://www.strangeparty.com pgp: [74B1FA37] (http://www.strangeparty.com/anton.asc) fingerprint: 7401 96D3 E037 2F8F 5965 A358 4046 71FD 74B1 FA37 No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
On 13/01/11 19:47, gazz wrote: About to write something for a VCS ICT mag about Ubuntu so thought I'd have a look at Natty - umm, not a big fan of Unity, ugly and ridiculously limited - wot, can't add stuff to the panel - what's the one at the top actually doing besides wasting space and telling me the time and that' I'm networked? Can't add move a panel? Hmmm. I'll concede that it might work well for people who want their puters to be toasters but please God don't stop offering GNOME shell alternative! Paula I know what you mean, at present anyway. I note that the session can be set to 'classic gnome' though.. The more I have thought about it, the more I come to believe that the people who I help to take refuge away from Windows, would very much welcome running a 'toaster', even though it would not be my own personal choice. I do not use a Mac but isn't a Mac a lot more 'toaster' like than Windows? Ubuntu has got a lot going in the right direction and I can easily give the benefit of the doubt to a somewhat radical direction. Fingers crossed. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
On 13 January 2011 21:11, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: The more I have thought about it, the more I come to believe that the people who I help to take refuge away from Windows, would very much welcome running a 'toaster', even though it would not be my own personal choice. I do not use a Mac but isn't a Mac a lot more 'toaster' like than Windows? I suspect Chrome OS is as far in the Toaster direction that a PC can get, booting to a web browser with no additional local applications. OSX has the possibility to be toaster like, but so does Windows and Ubuntu if configured correctly. None of them are 'out of the box' though. Ubuntu has got a lot going in the right direction and I can easily give the benefit of the doubt to a somewhat radical direction. Fingers crossed. Yeah, watch this space :) Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 21:14 +, Alan Pope wrote: Ubuntu has got a lot going in the right direction and I can easily give the benefit of the doubt to a somewhat radical direction. Fingers crossed. Yeah, watch this space :) Unfortunately, I'll be watching this space from a Mint desktop. It worries me that so many people will be joining me (or already have). Regards, Tyler -- Scientific theories can be altered by publishing a paper with reproducible results, and political principles can be changed every two to four years with an election, but if you want to change religious principles you usually have to wait for a whole generation of clergy to die. -- Soren Ragsdale -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
On 13 January 2011 21:33, Tyler J. Wagner ty...@tolaris.com wrote: Unfortunately, I'll be watching this space from a Mint desktop. It worries me that so many people will be joining me (or already have). Eh? You've moved over to mint yourself but you're worried that other people will too? There's plenty of room in the universe for lots of linux distros. I hear Mint is quite good as it goes. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
On 13/01/2011 21:11, alan c wrote: On 13/01/11 19:47, gazz wrote: About to write something for a VCS ICT mag about Ubuntu so thought I'd have a look at Natty - umm, not a big fan of Unity, ugly and ridiculously limited - wot, can't add stuff to the panel - what's the one at the top actually doing besides wasting space and telling me the time and that' I'm networked? Can't add move a panel? Hmmm. I'll concede that it might work well for people who want their puters to be toasters but please God don't stop offering GNOME shell alternative! Paula I know what you mean, at present anyway. I note that the session can be set to 'classic gnome' though.. The more I have thought about it, the more I come to believe that the people who I help to take refuge away from Windows, would very much welcome running a 'toaster', even though it would not be my own personal choice. I do not use a Mac but isn't a Mac a lot more 'toaster' like than Windows? Ubuntu has got a lot going in the right direction and I can easily give the benefit of the doubt to a somewhat radical direction. Fingers crossed. Personally, I've found - due to using a netbook - that not having a classical desktop is a real boon. Perhaps it just makes me tidier, not having miscellaneous files dumped in front of me. John -- John Levin http://www.anterotesis.com johnle...@joindiaspora.com http://twitter.com/anterotesis -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 22:26 +, Alan Pope wrote: Eh? You've moved over to mint yourself but you're worried that other people will too? I'm running 10.04 now, but will be moving to Mint as of natty. I'm worried that Unity is one case of Ubuntu pushing design in the wrong direction for the workstation. It's great for netbooks, once they get the basics like can add icons to the left menu sorted. But for my 1680x1050 laptop, where I run multiple terminals side by side and often run VMs, it's not even an option to use a netbook interface. If I have to change the UI, I'd much rather have Gnome Shell than Unity. Or, I was just really, really burned by KDE 4, and have become a bit conservative about major shifts on the desktop. Regards, Tyler -- Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man. -- Mark Twain -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 21:11 +, alan c wrote: On 13/01/11 19:47, gazz wrote: snip Ubuntu has got a lot going in the right direction and I can easily give the benefit of the doubt to a somewhat radical direction. Fingers crossed. Agreed. Incidentally I saw yesterday a Mac that had been configured with the dock on the side in a way that looked interestingly like Unity and I can assure you that the user of that Mac was not a novice user, it's just that it suited her way of using her computer better than the default dock. So let's wait and see what comes out of it. Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
On 13 January 2011 23:04, Tyler J. Wagner ty...@tolaris.com wrote: I'm running 10.04 now, but will be moving to Mint as of natty. You know Natty ships with both Unity _and_ the classic GNOME desktop that you are used to in 10.04? I'm worried that Unity is one case of Ubuntu pushing design in the wrong direction for the workstation. It's great for netbooks, once they get the basics like can add icons to the left menu sorted. It's certainly a bold step. But for my 1680x1050 laptop, where I run multiple terminals side by side and often run VMs, it's not even an option to use a netbook interface. If I have to change the UI, I'd much rather have Gnome Shell than Unity. You say that as if Unity doesn't allow you to have multiple terminals side by side, or run VMs, which it can. Or, I was just really, really burned by KDE 4, and have become a bit conservative about major shifts on the desktop. Yet you're willing to switch the entire distribution based on your assumptions about Unity? :) Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
I am having a great time using Unity ever since alpha1 and I absolutely love it, its the best thing thats happened to the Linux desktop in a long time (well since docky... and moving the maximise/minimise buttons to the right hand side). I find Unity very fast and easy to use, although there is still some functionality to come as there is still a lot of development to do. I have lots of applications on my Unity launcher and its great to use the touchscreen or mouse to scroll through them, its so much quicker than the classic applications menu. The unity launcher is great for managing multiple windows, and quickly selecting the desired window from a busy laptop. I think the design team have been doing a great job on the look and feel in these early days, although I am afraid I prefer a different desktop wallpaper to the default. I do have a few hundred to choose from that I have collected over the years. I would also like to have purple folder icons for nautilus, but I can live with the orange. I am really looking forward to the Ubuntu team completing Unity functionality and excited to find out what’s coming after natty (well what else after wayland and windicators). Thank you -- John Stevenson Lean Agile Consultant / Coach jr0cket.com | leanagilemachine.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
