Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy
Perhaps we should have a launchpad poll on weather or not to vote again. That way Dave will get practise on setting up polls before the next election!! But seriously, the only thing that has really come up from this is a bit of negativity. Alan won the election, and as such deserves the post. If there are enough members who think that the poll was fixed, or just accidentally broken - and that the election should be re-done, i think they should be emailing the contenders (I guess mostly Alan and Dave) privately, and if they feel its necessary - they can re-run it. Rather that than sit in front of my machine in the morning and read the makings of a revolution out of a happy little community... burn them!!! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy
Chris Rowson wrote: snip The question is quite simply do you want the election to be held again, yes or no? No Ron -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy
The question is quite simply do you want the election to be held again, yes or no? I don't recognise the authority of this list as the right place to ask that question :-) Note to the hard of thinking - that was sarcasm, OK. I am AMAZED at how much MORE traffic something relatively simple, like electing a well-respected, experienced Ubuntu Advocate to be PoC has generated... relative to stuff like, say, the launch coming up in 2 weeks time. M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy
I am AMAZED at how much MORE traffic something relatively simple, like electing a well-respected, experienced Ubuntu Advocate to be PoC has generated... relative to stuff like, say, the launch coming up in 2 weeks time. M. I wholeheartedly agreee - I think it's fairly evident that on the whole people are happy with the choice of PoC and it's now time to move on. Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 11:39, Chris Rowson wrote: I am AMAZED at how much MORE traffic something relatively simple, like electing a well-respected, experienced Ubuntu Advocate to be PoC has generated... relative to stuff like, say, the launch coming up in 2 weeks time. M. I wholeheartedly agreee - I think it's fairly evident that on the whole people are happy with the choice of PoC and it's now time to move on. Fine by me. It seems that the voting mix-up I mentioned in my previous email doesn't really worry anyone (I voted, and am also happy with the result), so yes, let's move on. Pete. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy
Mark Harrison wrote: The question is quite simply do you want the election to be held again, yes or no? I don't recognise the authority of this list as the right place to ask that question :-) Note to the hard of thinking - that was sarcasm, OK. I am AMAZED at how much MORE traffic something relatively simple, like electing a well-respected, experienced Ubuntu Advocate to be PoC has generated... relative to stuff like, say, the launch coming up in 2 weeks time. Hello, Mark. I've quietly ignored the 'vote' traffic until now. It's a well known phenomenon that people post messages on mailing lists (and news groups) like this a lot more when 'political' issues are raised than when the actual topic of the list or newsgroup is discussed. I think this list is quite well behaved, but like any other it has had its 'bad' times too. I guess it's just human nature. Some people like to be the 'organisers' and represent their perceived constituency. Others, like me, are just happy to share opinions and ideas with other people. I value this list a lot because it puts me in touch with people who have common interests in using and promoting Ubuntu. However, I'd just like to remind everyone that there is already a network of LUG's (Linux User groups) in the UK: http://www.lug.org.uk/ I think Ubuntu is great, but let's not forget Linux is more than Ubuntu. Best wishes, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rowett Research Institute, |http://www.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, | phone:+44 (0)1224 712751 Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK.| fax:+44 (0)1224 716687 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy
NO -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy
No Original message From: Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1 Oct 2007 12:37pm -07:00 To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy NO -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy
So that'll be a no then Chris ;-) :-P -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy
On 01/10/2007, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I'm sure that most of you are aware a discussion has taken place on the mailing list as to the legitimacy and accuracy of the PoC election process. I'm becoming somewhat concerned at the direction these discussions are taking, as on occasion (in my humble opinion) they may be regarded as coming close to a personal attack. I'd like to take this opportunity to direct you all to the Ubuntu Code of Conduct which many of us have signed. If you'd like to read it, you can find it here: www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct. Please pay close attention to the section entitled 'Be Respectful'. It reads We may not always agree, but disagreement is no excuse for poor behaviour and poor manners. We might all experience some frustration now and then, but we cannot allow that frustration to turn into a personal attack. Lets not degenerate into a rabble please, I'm sure that this can be sorted out. Perhaps an easy way to sort this out would be to simply poll the thoughts of the interested parties without all of the emotion. The question is quite simply do you want the election to be held again, yes or no? No. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 20:37 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: As I'm sure that most of you are aware a discussion has taken place on the mailing list as to the legitimacy and accuracy of the PoC election process. I'm becoming somewhat concerned at the direction these discussions are taking, as on occasion (in my humble opinion) they may be regarded as coming close to a personal attack. I'd like to take this opportunity to direct you all to the Ubuntu Code of Conduct which many of us have signed. If you'd like to read it, you can find it here: www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct. Please pay close attention to the section entitled 'Be Respectful'. It reads We may not always agree, but disagreement is no excuse for poor behaviour and poor manners. We might all experience some frustration now and then, but we cannot allow that frustration to turn into a personal attack. Lets not degenerate into a rabble please, I'm sure that this can be sorted out. Perhaps an easy way to sort this out would be to simply poll the thoughts of the interested parties without all of the emotion. The question is quite simply do you want the election to be held again, yes or no? No, thank you. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy
Hi, On Monday 01 October 2007 20:37:05 Chris Rowson wrote: As I'm sure that most of you are aware a discussion has taken place on the mailing list as to the legitimacy and accuracy of the PoC election process. snip The question is quite simply do you want the election to be held again, yes or no? I've not been particularly involved in the Ubuntu-UK team so far, so take my comments with that in mind, but at the risk of voting for the People's Popular Front of Judea rather than the Popular Front of the People of Judea, it seems that if the vote closed earlier than the time it was supposed to, and it's entirely probable that people would have voted in the evening and hence changed the (close) result, I think it seems like maybe the only legitimate option is to run the thing again. I.e: Yes. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be annoying, and I'd rather we all just focused on promoting [X|K|Ed]ubuntu (I notice that the government certification task is currently unattended, and at uni we have a whole load of new first years to educate about the joys of free software), but it strikes me that if we're gonna do the democracy thing, we might as well do it right. Thanks for reading, Pete. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy
The question is quite simply do you want the election to be held again, yes or no? No thank you. Dougie Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.lynxworks.eu/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
