Re: [ubuntu-uk] recommendations for dongle internet?
On 2012-08-07, Kris Douglas wrote: On 7 August 2012 17:26, Paul Sladen ubu...@paul.sladen.org wrote: Yes, too many variations [of Linux] has historically been an issue and barrier in gaining Free software the mindshare/traction it deserves. Ubuntu is part of the answer to this; Focus people's attention on a single well-polished brand and OS. Get consumers (such as you and I) used to using and asking for Ubuntu, and also get the hardware and services vendors to support that the same Ubuntu that the users are asking for. -Paul * NB. Once it's working on Ubuntu, it will work on all the distros: the key is to *focus* initially, rather than dilute and confuse. I was about to comment on this saying that was a bit of a bad idea, when I actually thought about it, it's quite frankly genius. What's the point in confusing suppliers with jargon and options and just say Will this work with Ubuntu? Make it work, etc. It gives them a name to hang on to, Linux is a very scary word to drop it seems. I have seen it smack the grin off many a PC World employee, god knows what Orange, 3 or Voda must think when they hear the dreaded word after they just sold a Dongle. New slogan: Ubuntu is an African word meaning less scary-sounding than 'Linux'. :-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] recommendations for dongle internet?
On 2012-08-04, Stuart Ward wrote: Disclaimer I have worked for 3 in the past. I tried very had when I was there to convince the broadband team that it was important to do some level of support for Linux, but all my protestations fell on deaf ears. No customer demand.. too many distributions and variations to support. Confuses the simple customer message... Good for you! Please go into a shop and ask about Linux support. I will if I decide later to go this way. (As I said in my other message a minute ago, I'm too much of a cheapskate!) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] recommendations for dongle internet?
On 07/08/12 15:08, Adam Funk wrote: Thanks very much to everyone who replied. Unfortunately, having looked at the up-front prices for PAYG, and the total costs of the contracts, I've decided to just use the public library's wi-fi for a holiday (self-catering in the UK but without an internet connection). I'll file the information away in case I change my mind later, though. Thank, Adam I got an unlocked dongle on e-bay really cheaply, and then looked for the best deal for PAYG connection - at that time it was on 3 but currently I believe TalkMobile is the best bet unless you want a lot of data. They cap at 25p per day for no more than 50mb which does for e-mails and a bit of browsing. I've used my dongle on 3, Virgin media, t-mobile and TalkMobile - whichever is best for the moment. Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] recommendations for dongle internet?
On 07/08/12 16:51, Barry Drake wrote: On 07/08/12 15:08, Adam Funk wrote: Thanks very much to everyone who replied. Unfortunately, having looked at the up-front prices for PAYG, and the total costs of the contracts, I've decided to just use the public library's wi-fi for a holiday (self-catering in the UK but without an internet connection). I'll file the information away in case I change my mind later, though. Thank, Adam I got an unlocked dongle on e-bay really cheaply, and then looked for the best deal for PAYG connection - at that time it was on 3 but currently I believe TalkMobile is the best bet unless you want a lot of data. They cap at 25p per day for no more than 50mb which does for e-mails and a bit of browsing. I've used my dongle on 3, Virgin media, t-mobile and TalkMobile - whichever is best for the moment. Regards,Barry. What about giffgaff? You can get 3gb of data for £12.50. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] recommendations for dongle internet?
On Tue, 7 Aug 2012, Adam Funk wrote: On 2012-08-04, Stuart Ward wrote: Please go into a shop and ask about Linux support. Or if what you are really after is Ubuntu support, then ask for Ubuntu support *by name*. (Rather than asking for Linux). support for Linux, but all my protestations fell on deaf ears. too many distributions and variations Good for you! Yes, too many variations [of Linux] has historically been an issue and barrier in gaining Free software the mindshare/traction it deserves. Ubuntu is part of the answer to this; Focus people's attention on a single well-polished brand and OS. Get consumers (such as you and I) used to using and asking for Ubuntu, and also get the hardware and services vendors to support that the same Ubuntu that the users are asking for. -Paul * NB. Once it's working on Ubuntu, it will work on all the distros: the key is to *focus* initially, rather than dilute and confuse. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] recommendations for dongle internet?
On 7 August 2012 17:26, Paul Sladen ubu...@paul.sladen.org wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2012, Adam Funk wrote: On 2012-08-04, Stuart Ward wrote: Please go into a shop and ask about Linux support. Or if what you are really after is Ubuntu support, then ask for Ubuntu support *by name*. (Rather than asking for Linux). support for Linux, but all my protestations fell on deaf ears. too many distributions and variations Good for you! Yes, too many variations [of Linux] has historically been an issue and barrier in gaining Free software the mindshare/traction it deserves. Ubuntu is part of the answer to this; Focus people's attention on a single well-polished brand and OS. Get consumers (such as you and I) used to using and asking for Ubuntu, and also get the hardware and services vendors to support that the same Ubuntu that the users are asking for. -Paul * NB. Once it's working on Ubuntu, it will work on all the distros: the key is to *focus* initially, rather than dilute and confuse. I was about to comment on this saying that was a bit of a bad idea, when I actually thought about it, it's quite frankly genius. What's the point in confusing suppliers with jargon and options and just say Will this work with Ubuntu? Make it work, etc. It gives them a name to hang on to, Linux is a very scary word to drop it seems. I have seen it smack the grin off many a PC World employee, god knows what Orange, 3 or Voda must think when they hear the dreaded word after they just sold a Dongle. -- Kris Douglas MBCS www.krisd.eu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] recommendations for dongle internet?
On 2 August 2012 16:14, Adam Funk a24...@ducksburg.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone would like to recommend any particular USB dongle internet hardware/services in the UK? I'm expecting to use it quite a bit for short periods, but only in the UK. Obviously it needs to be usable with Ubuntu! Most Huawei dongles will work. With 12.04 the majority of UK broadband providers are identified when you plug the dongle in, so it might really be a case of taking your laptop to a store and asking to test their mobile internet package. I use an old unlocked T-Mobile dongle with an Andrews and Arnold SIM so it might even be worth looking on eBay for something like that. s/ -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood TBA are particularly glib -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] recommendations for dongle internet?
Hi Adam, I have used an android smartphone as a wifi hotspot with no problems with ubuntu (from 10.04). Most dongles should work with it anyway. From my very limited experience the huawei ones work right out of the box, it is just a question of changing a setting so that it connects via the dongle and doesnt look for wifi(or just turn off wifi and that should work). In worst case scenario if it doesnt work for some reason then most shops (o2,vodafone etc) will refund you the cost if it doesnt work. Since the kernel 3.0.27 update (latest i think) there is now support for even more devices. ps this is the dongle that i have used-- huawei k3770. The following guide should help if you do encounter any problems http://digitalgotcha.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/get-vodafone-3g-dongle-huawei-k3770.html hope this helped On 2 August 2012 16:14, Adam Funk a24...@ducksburg.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone would like to recommend any particular USB dongle internet hardware/services in the UK? I'm expecting to use it quite a bit for short periods, but only in the UK. Obviously it needs to be usable with Ubuntu! Thanks, Adam -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] recommendations for dongle internet?
I've used an Android device with no issues, but I've also had some success with the Huwei USB dongles - both from 3 and O2. I think 3 are pretty good from a data plan rate... -- Jon The Nice Guy Spriggs On 2 August 2012 16:38, Anton Kanishchev antonk20...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Adam, I have used an android smartphone as a wifi hotspot with no problems with ubuntu (from 10.04). Most dongles should work with it anyway. From my very limited experience the huawei ones work right out of the box, it is just a question of changing a setting so that it connects via the dongle and doesnt look for wifi(or just turn off wifi and that should work). In worst case scenario if it doesnt work for some reason then most shops (o2,vodafone etc) will refund you the cost if it doesnt work. Since the kernel 3.0.27 update (latest i think) there is now support for even more devices. ps this is the dongle that i have used-- huawei k3770. The following guide should help if you do encounter any problems http://digitalgotcha.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/get-vodafone-3g-dongle-huawei-k3770.html hope this helped On 2 August 2012 16:14, Adam Funk a24...@ducksburg.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone would like to recommend any particular USB dongle internet hardware/services in the UK? I'm expecting to use it quite a bit for short periods, but only in the UK. Obviously it needs to be usable with Ubuntu! Thanks, Adam -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] recommendations for dongle internet?
I use mi-fi from 3 and have had no problems with it at all.even been able to get a connection right in the middle of Regents Park On 02/08/2012 17:02, Jon Spriggs wrote: I've used an Android device with no issues, but I've also had some success with the Huwei USB dongles - both from 3 and O2. I think 3 are pretty good from a data plan rate... -- Jon The Nice Guy Spriggs On 2 August 2012 16:38, Anton Kanishchev antonk20...@gmail.com mailto:antonk20...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Adam, I have used an android smartphone as a wifi hotspot with no problems with ubuntu (from 10.04). Most dongles should work with it anyway. From my very limited experience the huawei ones work right out of the box, it is just a question of changing a setting so that it connects via the dongle and doesnt look for wifi(or just turn off wifi and that should work). In worst case scenario if it doesnt work for some reason then most shops (o2,vodafone etc) will refund you the cost if it doesnt work. Since the kernel 3.0.27 update (latest i think) there is now support for even more devices. ps this is the dongle that i have used-- huawei k3770. The following guide should help if you do encounter any problems http://digitalgotcha.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/get-vodafone-3g-dongle-huawei-k3770.html hope this helped On 2 August 2012 16:14, Adam Funk a24...@ducksburg.com mailto:a24...@ducksburg.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone would like to recommend any particular USB dongle internet hardware/services in the UK? I'm expecting to use it quite a bit for short periods, but only in the UK. Obviously it needs to be usable with Ubuntu! Thanks, Adam -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] recommendations for dongle internet?
On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 16:14 +0100, Adam Funk wrote: Just wondering if anyone would like to recommend any particular USB dongle internet hardware/services in the UK? I'm expecting to use it quite a bit for short periods, but only in the UK. Obviously it needs to be usable with Ubuntu! Thanks, Adam Adam, re your request for recommended service provider as well as the hardware... [this is my own experience] I started with and have stuck with 3. During 10.04 days their supplied dongle worked well. I have since been upgraded in both GByte allowance and supplied dongle. Verdict: - the *original* dongle was good with bog standard 10.04. - the *current* dongle *is* good with 12.04 [as in -out of the box] Be wary though, the original won't connect on 12.04, the latest won't work on 10.04 [kernel drivers difference I think]. If you are on 12.04 ensure [if you go with 3 as your service], that the dongle is the E367 - if so - no probs... works out of the box. Overall - whichever of the two I used [whether at home or travelling around] I never had any difficulty getting a reliable fast [enough] connection. [No - I do not work for 3 and have no reason to promote them - other than the above facts]. Good luck whatever your choice. -- Cheers, Bill B. [SuperEngineer] -- -Registered Linux User 523667- -Registered Ubuntu User 32366- -Free as in Freedom-- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] recommendations for dongle internet?
I also had a period from 10.04 alpha2 of dark days with my 3g dongle, it works fine now :) I think the best advice has already been given. Take the laptop into the shop say that if it works, you'll consider buying it. As also mentioned, yup - when I do new installs the system recognises it as '3' and then just sorts it out. I also do NOT work for '3' and would have told people that we were having problems for a couple of releases. regards, Phill. On 2 August 2012 20:35, Bill B. boo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 16:14 +0100, Adam Funk wrote: Just wondering if anyone would like to recommend any particular USB dongle internet hardware/services in the UK? I'm expecting to use it quite a bit for short periods, but only in the UK. Obviously it needs to be usable with Ubuntu! Thanks, Adam Adam, re your request for recommended service provider as well as the hardware... [this is my own experience] I started with and have stuck with 3. During 10.04 days their supplied dongle worked well. I have since been upgraded in both GByte allowance and supplied dongle. Verdict: - the *original* dongle was good with bog standard 10.04. - the *current* dongle *is* good with 12.04 [as in -out of the box] Be wary though, the original won't connect on 12.04, the latest won't work on 10.04 [kernel drivers difference I think]. If you are on 12.04 ensure [if you go with 3 as your service], that the dongle is the E367 - if so - no probs... works out of the box. Overall - whichever of the two I used [whether at home or travelling around] I never had any difficulty getting a reliable fast [enough] connection. [No - I do not work for 3 and have no reason to promote them - other than the above facts]. Good luck whatever your choice. -- Cheers, Bill B. [SuperEngineer] -- -Registered Linux User 523667- -Registered Ubuntu User 32366- -Free as in Freedom-- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
