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2004-04-18 Thread gook makanga
Ssenyange,
The celebrations were in Nairobi? Dont you find that strange? Why in Nairobi when the Mood in Kla was of saddness? I was in Kla then and i could also show you a pic. of a crowd ofUgandans in mourning.

Gook 

"Rang guthe agithi marapu!" A karamonjong word of wisdom

Original Message Follows From: "ssenya nyange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok’s family secrets buried here\ Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:31:15 -0400 The auther doesnt know how majority people celebrated, boosed and danced upon the news of Oyite's death. At that time I was in Nairobi and I wish I could show you some of the pictures of celebrants in a big public place. Its not good to celebrating someones death but Oyite's case was very different. It was like the Jews celebrating the death of Hitler. The celebration paid off 2 years later. J. Ssenyange --- From: "gook makanga" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok’s family secrets buried here Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:27:
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2004-04-18 Thread jonah kasangwawo
gook,

be real ! Do you seriously believe one could openly celebrate in Kampala at 
the time ? What do you think would have happened to such a person ?

Some Ugandans like you might have been sad at his death but the majority 
surely didn't miss him.

Kasangwawo


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Ssenyange,
The celebrations were in Nairobi? Dont you find that strange? Why in Nairobi when the Mood in Kla was of saddness? I was in Kla then and i could also show you a pic. of a crowd ofUgandans in mourning.

Gook 

"Rang guthe agithi marapu!" A karamonjong word of wisdom

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RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok’s family secrets buried here\

2004-04-18 Thread Owor Kipenji
What Mshemiwa Ssenyange is describing is typical of the tools 
many who have be outsmarted resort to i.e wait for the course of
nature to rescue them from their own failings.
Death is the only democratic process that exists in Life and hence 
Nobody including the Ssenyanges and their ilk of this world will somehow circumvent it.
Rejoicing at anyones' death friend or foe epitomizes the level of ignorance that surrounds that person.
Mr Ssenyange,one of these days if you have time,read that book"Jesus
Christus unser Schiksaal(Jesus Christ our Destiny) by Wilheim Busch
and therein you will come of age to understand why today,unlike then the Jews behave collectively in grieving the death of even the least of their members.
Thank you.
Kipenji.
gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ssenyange,
The celebrations were in Nairobi? Dont you find that strange? Why in Nairobi when the Mood in Kla was of saddness? I was in Kla then and i could also show you a pic. of a crowd ofUgandans in mourning.

Gook 

"Rang guthe agithi marapu!" A karamonjong word of wisdom

Original Message Follows From: "ssenya nyange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok’s family secrets buried here\ Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:31:15 -0400 The auther doesnt know how majority people celebrated, boosed and danced upon the news of Oyite's death. At that time I was in Nairobi and I wish I could show you some of the pictures of celebrants in a big public place. Its not good to celebrating someones death but Oyite's case was very different. It was like the Jews celebrating the death of Hitler. The celebration paid off 2 years later. J. Ssenyange --- From: "gook makanga" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok’s family secrets buried here Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:27: 53
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RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok’s family secrets buried here\

2004-04-18 Thread ssenya nyange
Akanga,

 That was part of the celebration which I personally witnessed. 
Those in Nairobi were done openly because of  freedom of expression. about 
that matter. In Buganda, each household celebrated inside their houses- the 
same way we celebrate Christmas in Canada.You know the obviuos reason why 
they could not do it openly in Buganda at that time. In Canada, we celebrate 
Christmas in our houses because the outside is too cold to enjoy ( average 
of -17c).

Ssenya
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Ssenyange,
The celebrations were in Nairobi? Dont you find that strange? Why in Nairobi when the Mood in Kla was of saddness? I was in Kla then and i could also show you a pic. of a crowd ofUgandans in mourning.

Gook 

"Rang guthe agithi marapu!" A karamonjong word of wisdom

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RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok’s family secrets buried here\

2004-04-18 Thread ssenya nyange
Owor Kipenji,

 As I mentioned in my email posting that its not good to celebrate 
someone's death but Oyite's case was different. Just as many celebrated the 
death and fall of Hitler, especially those who had lost their beloved ones, 
so didd the Baganda who lost the 500,000 relatives under Oyite's command.
Buy ending his life, God answered the haunting blood of the dead and indeed 
Oyite died in the sky or on the soil of Luweero.How long did the UPC killing 
continue after Oyite's death? Less that 2 years. He was the rise and fall of 
UPC in the 80's. He was tainted with blood of 1/2 million  innocent 
citizens. If his death was seen as the road map to stop the massacres in 
Buganda, why not celebrate the road map victory, just because it saved 
another million if the UPC was to continue ruling for another 5 years.

Ssenyange

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:04:44 +0100 (BST)
What Mshemiwa Ssenyange is describing is typical of the tools
many who have be outsmarted resort to i.e wait for the course of
nature to rescue them from their own failings.
Death is the only democratic process that exists in Life and hence
Nobody including the Ssenyanges and their ilk of this world will somehow 
circumvent it.
Rejoicing at anyones' death friend or foe epitomizes the level of ignorance 
that surrounds that person.
Mr Ssenyange,one of these days if you have time,read that bookJesus
Christus unser Schiksaal(Jesus Christ our Destiny) by Wilheim Busch
and therein you will come of age to understand why today,unlike then the 
Jews behave collectively in grieving the death of even the least of their 
members.
Thank you.
Kipenji.


gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ssenyange,

The celebrations were in Nairobi? Dont you find that strange? Why in 
Nairobi when the Mood in Kla was of saddness? I was in Kla then and i could 
also show you a pic. of a crowd of Ugandans in mourning.





Gook

Rang guthe agithi marapu! A karamonjong word of wisdom



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The auther doesnt know how majority people celebrated, boosed and danced 
upon the news of Oyite's death. At that time I was in Nairobi and I wish I 
could show you some of the pictures of celebrants in a big public place. 
Its not good to celebrating someones death but Oyite's case was very 
different. It was like the Jews celebrating the death of Hitler. The 
celebration paid off 2 years later.

J. Ssenyange
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2004-04-18 Thread Y Yaobang

Ssenyange:
You stated:
"... the Baganda who lost the 500,000 relatives under Oyite's command. ..."This is a very serious statement and allegation. I would not be suprised if you ended up in court over this!!
y
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Owor Kipenji, 
 
As I mentioned in my email posting that its not good to 
celebrate someone's death but Oyite's case was different. Just as 
many celebrated the death and fall of Hitler, especially those who 
had lost their beloved ones, so didd the Baganda who lost the 
500,000 relatives under Oyite's command. 
Buy ending his life, God answered the haunting blood of the dead and 
indeed Oyite died in the sky or on the soil of Luweero.How long did 
the UPC killing continue after Oyite's death? Less that 2 years. He 
was the rise and fall of UPC in the 80's. He was tainted with blood 
of 1/2 millioninnocent citizens. If his death was seen as the road 
map to stop the massacres in Buganda, why not celebrate the road map 
victory, just because it saved another million if the UPC was to 
continue ruling for another 5 years. 
 
Ssenyange 
 
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:04:44 +0100 (BST) 
 
What Mshemiwa Ssenyange is describing is typical of the tools 
many who have be outsmarted resort to i.e wait for the course of 
nature to rescue them from their own failings. 
Death is the only democratic process that exists in Life and hence 
Nobody including the Ssenyanges and their ilk of this world will 
somehow circumvent it. 
Rejoicing at anyones' death friend or foe epitomizes the level of 
ignorance that surrounds that person. 
Mr Ssenyange,one of these days if you have time,read that 
book"Jesus 
Christus unser Schiksaal(Jesus Christ our Destiny) by Wilheim Busch 
and therein you will come of age to understand why today,unlike 
then the Jews behave collectively in grieving the death of even the 
least of their members. 
Thank you. 
Kipenji. 
 
 
gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
Ssenyange, 
 
The celebrations were in Nairobi? Dont you find that strange? Why 
in Nairobi when the Mood in Kla was of saddness? I was in Kla then 
and i could also show you a pic. of a crowd of Ugandans in 
mourning. 
 
 
 
 
 
Gook 
 
"Rang guthe agithi marapu!" A karamonjong word of wisdom 
 
 
 
 
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The auther doesnt know how majority people celebrated, boosed and 
danced upon the news of Oyite's death. At that time I was in 
Nairobi and I wish I could show you some of the pictures of 
celebrants in a big public place. Its not good to celebrating 
someones death but Oyite's case was very different. It was like the 
Jews celebrating the death of Hitler. The celebration paid off 2 
years later. 
 
J. Ssenyange 
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2004-04-17 Thread ssenya nyange
The auther doesnt know how majority people celebrated, boosed and danced 
upon the news of Oyite's death. At that time I was in Nairobi and I wish I 
could show you some of the pictures of celebrants in a big public place. Its 
not good to celebrating someones death but Oyite's case was very different. 
It was like the Jews celebrating the death of Hitler. The celebration paid 
off 2 years later.

J. Ssenyange
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Oyite-Ojok’s family secrets buried hereBy Badru D. MulumbaApril 18 - 24, 2004




LORO, Apac: - Becca Arach Oyite-Ojok would never let go. She was 18, a career girl with prospects of her own, stalked by a relentless army captain, 24, who she held in her spell.






The author at Oyite’s home.That is Becca and David Oyite-Ojok’s story. 

It started in 1964 in Jinja, before abruptly ending twenty years later in the bushy environs of Loro.
It is a story of aspirations and dreams, love, denial and destiny.
In 1962, Ms Arach was leaving Sacred Hearts and joining Mulago Hospital as David Oyite-Ojok was returning to Uganda from Sandhurst where the British colonial government trained him before he joined the army.
And when Becca moved to Jinja Hospital in 1964, Oyite had fairly risen fast up the ranks to captain; he was in charge of the Quarter Guard at Jinja.
Oyite was born on April 15 in 1940 (he would have made 64 last Thursday); Arach was born much later on August 28, 1946.
The same day that Becca was ferrying her holdings into a hospital hostel room in Jinja hospital, Oyite was visiting the hospital to pick up his girlfriend for the weekend.
“Who is that girl?” he reportedly asked his girlfriend. “Is she a newly qualified nurse?”
The girl friend reportedly gave him the name.
“He kept quiet,” Becca says, remembering the story as told to her by Oyite several years later.






Oyite- Ojok
The way she remembers, from then on, whenever Oyite came to pick his girl friend, he would ask her to join them. 
Each time, she told him that she would go along ‘next time’; each ‘next time’ she turned him down. Becca won’t name the girlfriend. 
But it is publicly known that by the time he died, Oyite had a grown up son, Isaac, who stayed with the mother in Jinja.
Meantime, Oyite relentlessly secretly scoured Jinja, looking for any one who could be Arach’s relative.
He stumbled upon a Major Arach; he asked Major Arach if he had a relative at the hospital. He hit a brick wall.
“Then, one time I went to the barracks to see my cousin,” she says.
The cousin, Janet now in Britain, was married to Major Yowana Omoya (RIP). Oyite, too, happened to be at her cousin’s home.
“He went and told her that, you know, I want your cousin for marriage. I don’t want to spoil her,” Becca recalls. 
Oyite would later tell her that every body was discouraging him. “‘That girl? Forget’. Indeed, I was very tough,” she says. 
“After sometime, I started going out with him, not for marriage. But he tricked me.”
Oyite would ask her if she had any other relative in Jinja. An uncle, Mr Alfred Nankooli (RIP) worked in Nile Breweries. Oyite suggested a visit.
She recalls introducing him as a casual friend.
“This is a soldier called David. He is a Langi.”
Unknown to her, she says, “he introduced his interests without even telling me that he wanted to marry me.”
As they left, her uncle requested her to go visit him the next time she was off duty.
“Is it true you are in love with that boy?” she recalls the uncle’s inquiry. “I started crying,” she says.
“He said, ‘No. If you were not in love with him, would you have brought him to me? Why did you bring him?”
Angry, Becca broke off her friendship with Oyite.






The grae yard where Oyite was buried.But not for long. Time healed the wounds. They moved out together again. Then Oyite blurted: “My father and mother said I should marry and it is you I want to marry.” 

Oyite, son of Ojok, was one of four siblings of Mr Serina Ojok Leven (RIP) and Ms Ojok Leven (RIP).
That statement again abruptly ended their closeness. So, why didn’t Becca want to go out with Oyite?
“I didn’t like his tribe,” she recalls. 
She was Madi (Acholi mother, Madi father); and, then, Madi and Langi reportedly disliked each other.
It would be two years before she introduced Oyite at her uncle’s home in Adjumani.
Both her parents had died by the time she was nine.
“Even at home, I didn’t show any interest in any boy,” she says. “So, people were shocked when my uncle announced that a visitor was coming.”
On December 12,