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Ssenyange, The celebrations were in Nairobi? Dont you find that strange? Why in Nairobi when the Mood in Kla was of saddness? I was in Kla then and i could also show you a pic. of a crowd ofUgandans in mourning. Gook "Rang guthe agithi marapu!" A karamonjong word of wisdom Original Message Follows From: "ssenya nyange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\ Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:31:15 -0400 The auther doesnt know how majority people celebrated, boosed and danced upon the news of Oyite's death. At that time I was in Nairobi and I wish I could show you some of the pictures of celebrants in a big public place. Its not good to celebrating someones death but Oyite's case was very different. It was like the Jews celebrating the death of Hitler. The celebration paid off 2 years later. J. Ssenyange --- From: "gook makanga" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:27: 53 + _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines message3.txt The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
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gook, be real ! Do you seriously believe one could openly celebrate in Kampala at the time ? What do you think would have happened to such a person ? Some Ugandans like you might have been sad at his death but the majority surely didn't miss him. Kasangwawo From: gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 06:49:51 + _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ---BeginMessage--- Ssenyange, The celebrations were in Nairobi? Dont you find that strange? Why in Nairobi when the Mood in Kla was of saddness? I was in Kla then and i could also show you a pic. of a crowd ofUgandans in mourning. Gook "Rang guthe agithi marapu!" A karamonjong word of wisdom Original Message Follows From: "ssenya nyange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\ Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:31:15 -0400 The auther doesnt know how majority people celebrated, boosed and danced upon the news of Oyite's death. At that time I was in Nairobi and I wish I could show you some of the pictures of celebrants in a big public place. Its not good to celebrating someones death but Oyite's case was very different. It was like the Jews celebrating the death of Hitler. The celebration paid off 2 years later. J. Ssenyange --- From: "gook makanga" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:27: 53 + _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines message3.txt The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug ---End Message---
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What Mshemiwa Ssenyange is describing is typical of the tools many who have be outsmarted resort to i.e wait for the course of nature to rescue them from their own failings. Death is the only democratic process that exists in Life and hence Nobody including the Ssenyanges and their ilk of this world will somehow circumvent it. Rejoicing at anyones' death friend or foe epitomizes the level of ignorance that surrounds that person. Mr Ssenyange,one of these days if you have time,read that book"Jesus Christus unser Schiksaal(Jesus Christ our Destiny) by Wilheim Busch and therein you will come of age to understand why today,unlike then the Jews behave collectively in grieving the death of even the least of their members. Thank you. Kipenji. gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ssenyange, The celebrations were in Nairobi? Dont you find that strange? Why in Nairobi when the Mood in Kla was of saddness? I was in Kla then and i could also show you a pic. of a crowd ofUgandans in mourning. Gook "Rang guthe agithi marapu!" A karamonjong word of wisdom Original Message Follows From: "ssenya nyange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\ Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:31:15 -0400 The auther doesnt know how majority people celebrated, boosed and danced upon the news of Oyite's death. At that time I was in Nairobi and I wish I could show you some of the pictures of celebrants in a big public place. Its not good to celebrating someones death but Oyite's case was very different. It was like the Jews celebrating the death of Hitler. The celebration paid off 2 years later. J. Ssenyange --- From: "gook makanga" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:27: 53 + _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines message3.txt The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now
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Akanga, That was part of the celebration which I personally witnessed. Those in Nairobi were done openly because of freedom of expression. about that matter. In Buganda, each household celebrated inside their houses- the same way we celebrate Christmas in Canada.You know the obviuos reason why they could not do it openly in Buganda at that time. In Canada, we celebrate Christmas in our houses because the outside is too cold to enjoy ( average of -17c). Ssenya -- From: gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 06:49:51 + _ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ---BeginMessage--- Ssenyange, The celebrations were in Nairobi? Dont you find that strange? Why in Nairobi when the Mood in Kla was of saddness? I was in Kla then and i could also show you a pic. of a crowd ofUgandans in mourning. Gook "Rang guthe agithi marapu!" A karamonjong word of wisdom Original Message Follows From: "ssenya nyange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\ Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:31:15 -0400 The auther doesnt know how majority people celebrated, boosed and danced upon the news of Oyite's death. At that time I was in Nairobi and I wish I could show you some of the pictures of celebrants in a big public place. Its not good to celebrating someones death but Oyite's case was very different. It was like the Jews celebrating the death of Hitler. The celebration paid off 2 years later. J. Ssenyange --- From: "gook makanga" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:27: 53 + _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines message3.txt The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug ---End Message---
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Owor Kipenji, As I mentioned in my email posting that its not good to celebrate someone's death but Oyite's case was different. Just as many celebrated the death and fall of Hitler, especially those who had lost their beloved ones, so didd the Baganda who lost the 500,000 relatives under Oyite's command. Buy ending his life, God answered the haunting blood of the dead and indeed Oyite died in the sky or on the soil of Luweero.How long did the UPC killing continue after Oyite's death? Less that 2 years. He was the rise and fall of UPC in the 80's. He was tainted with blood of 1/2 million innocent citizens. If his death was seen as the road map to stop the massacres in Buganda, why not celebrate the road map victory, just because it saved another million if the UPC was to continue ruling for another 5 years. Ssenyange --- From: Owor Kipenji [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:04:44 +0100 (BST) What Mshemiwa Ssenyange is describing is typical of the tools many who have be outsmarted resort to i.e wait for the course of nature to rescue them from their own failings. Death is the only democratic process that exists in Life and hence Nobody including the Ssenyanges and their ilk of this world will somehow circumvent it. Rejoicing at anyones' death friend or foe epitomizes the level of ignorance that surrounds that person. Mr Ssenyange,one of these days if you have time,read that bookJesus Christus unser Schiksaal(Jesus Christ our Destiny) by Wilheim Busch and therein you will come of age to understand why today,unlike then the Jews behave collectively in grieving the death of even the least of their members. Thank you. Kipenji. gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ssenyange, The celebrations were in Nairobi? Dont you find that strange? Why in Nairobi when the Mood in Kla was of saddness? I was in Kla then and i could also show you a pic. of a crowd of Ugandans in mourning. Gook Rang guthe agithi marapu! A karamonjong word of wisdom Original Message Follows From: ssenya nyange [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\ Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:31:15 -0400 The auther doesnt know how majority people celebrated, boosed and danced upon the news of Oyite's death. At that time I was in Nairobi and I wish I could show you some of the pictures of celebrants in a big public place. Its not good to celebrating someones death but Oyite's case was very different. It was like the Jews celebrating the death of Hitler. The celebration paid off 2 years later. J. Ssenyange --- From: gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:27: 53 + _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines message3.txt - The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
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Ssenyange: You stated: "... the Baganda who lost the 500,000 relatives under Oyite's command. ..."This is a very serious statement and allegation. I would not be suprised if you ended up in court over this!! y From: "ssenya nyange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:52:10 -0400 Owor Kipenji, As I mentioned in my email posting that its not good to celebrate someone's death but Oyite's case was different. Just as many celebrated the death and fall of Hitler, especially those who had lost their beloved ones, so didd the Baganda who lost the 500,000 relatives under Oyite's command. Buy ending his life, God answered the haunting blood of the dead and indeed Oyite died in the sky or on the soil of Luweero.How long did the UPC killing continue after Oyite's death? Less that 2 years. He was the rise and fall of UPC in the 80's. He was tainted with blood of 1/2 millioninnocent citizens. If his death was seen as the road map to stop the massacres in Buganda, why not celebrate the road map victory, just because it saved another million if the UPC was to continue ruling for another 5 years. Ssenyange --- From: Owor Kipenji [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:04:44 +0100 (BST) What Mshemiwa Ssenyange is describing is typical of the tools many who have be outsmarted resort to i.e wait for the course of nature to rescue them from their own failings. Death is the only democratic process that exists in Life and hence Nobody including the Ssenyanges and their ilk of this world will somehow circumvent it. Rejoicing at anyones' death friend or foe epitomizes the level of ignorance that surrounds that person. Mr Ssenyange,one of these days if you have time,read that book"Jesus Christus unser Schiksaal(Jesus Christ our Destiny) by Wilheim Busch and therein you will come of age to understand why today,unlike then the Jews behave collectively in grieving the death of even the least of their members. Thank you. Kipenji. gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ssenyange, The celebrations were in Nairobi? Dont you find that strange? Why in Nairobi when the Mood in Kla was of saddness? I was in Kla then and i could also show you a pic. of a crowd of Ugandans in mourning. Gook "Rang guthe agithi marapu!" A karamonjong word of wisdom Original Message Follows From: "ssenya nyange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\ Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:31:15 -0400 The auther doesnt know how majority people celebrated, boosed and danced upon the news of Oyite's death. At that time I was in Nairobi and I wish I could show you some of the pictures of celebrants in a big public place. Its not good to celebrating someones death but Oyite's case was very different. It was like the Jews celebrating the death of Hitler. The celebration paid off 2 years later. J. Ssenyange --- From: "gook makanga" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:27: 53 + _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines message3.txt - The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
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The auther doesnt know how majority people celebrated, boosed and danced upon the news of Oyite's death. At that time I was in Nairobi and I wish I could show you some of the pictures of celebrants in a big public place. Its not good to celebrating someones death but Oyite's case was very different. It was like the Jews celebrating the death of Hitler. The celebration paid off 2 years later. J. Ssenyange --- From: gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:27:53 + _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ---BeginMessage--- Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried hereBy Badru D. MulumbaApril 18 - 24, 2004 LORO, Apac: - Becca Arach Oyite-Ojok would never let go. She was 18, a career girl with prospects of her own, stalked by a relentless army captain, 24, who she held in her spell. The author at Oyites home.That is Becca and David Oyite-Ojoks story. It started in 1964 in Jinja, before abruptly ending twenty years later in the bushy environs of Loro. It is a story of aspirations and dreams, love, denial and destiny. In 1962, Ms Arach was leaving Sacred Hearts and joining Mulago Hospital as David Oyite-Ojok was returning to Uganda from Sandhurst where the British colonial government trained him before he joined the army. And when Becca moved to Jinja Hospital in 1964, Oyite had fairly risen fast up the ranks to captain; he was in charge of the Quarter Guard at Jinja. Oyite was born on April 15 in 1940 (he would have made 64 last Thursday); Arach was born much later on August 28, 1946. The same day that Becca was ferrying her holdings into a hospital hostel room in Jinja hospital, Oyite was visiting the hospital to pick up his girlfriend for the weekend. Who is that girl? he reportedly asked his girlfriend. Is she a newly qualified nurse? The girl friend reportedly gave him the name. He kept quiet, Becca says, remembering the story as told to her by Oyite several years later. Oyite- Ojok The way she remembers, from then on, whenever Oyite came to pick his girl friend, he would ask her to join them. Each time, she told him that she would go along next time; each next time she turned him down. Becca wont name the girlfriend. But it is publicly known that by the time he died, Oyite had a grown up son, Isaac, who stayed with the mother in Jinja. Meantime, Oyite relentlessly secretly scoured Jinja, looking for any one who could be Arachs relative. He stumbled upon a Major Arach; he asked Major Arach if he had a relative at the hospital. He hit a brick wall. Then, one time I went to the barracks to see my cousin, she says. The cousin, Janet now in Britain, was married to Major Yowana Omoya (RIP). Oyite, too, happened to be at her cousins home. He went and told her that, you know, I want your cousin for marriage. I dont want to spoil her, Becca recalls. Oyite would later tell her that every body was discouraging him. That girl? Forget. Indeed, I was very tough, she says. After sometime, I started going out with him, not for marriage. But he tricked me. Oyite would ask her if she had any other relative in Jinja. An uncle, Mr Alfred Nankooli (RIP) worked in Nile Breweries. Oyite suggested a visit. She recalls introducing him as a casual friend. This is a soldier called David. He is a Langi. Unknown to her, she says, he introduced his interests without even telling me that he wanted to marry me. As they left, her uncle requested her to go visit him the next time she was off duty. Is it true you are in love with that boy? she recalls the uncles inquiry. I started crying, she says. He said, No. If you were not in love with him, would you have brought him to me? Why did you bring him? Angry, Becca broke off her friendship with Oyite. The grae yard where Oyite was buried.But not for long. Time healed the wounds. They moved out together again. Then Oyite blurted: My father and mother said I should marry and it is you I want to marry. Oyite, son of Ojok, was one of four siblings of Mr Serina Ojok Leven (RIP) and Ms Ojok Leven (RIP). That statement again abruptly ended their closeness. So, why didnt Becca want to go out with Oyite? I didnt like his tribe, she recalls. She was Madi (Acholi mother, Madi father); and, then, Madi and Langi reportedly disliked each other. It would be two years before she introduced Oyite at her uncles home in Adjumani. Both her parents had died by the time she was nine. Even at home, I didnt show any interest in any boy, she says. So, people were shocked when my uncle announced that a visitor was coming. On December 12,