Re: ugnet_: Apt lesson for our tyrants (like Musevenic!)

2003-11-26 Thread Owor Kipenji
Can you provide the leadership?.In Georgia,they had a leader who
rallied them to rise.In Uganda we still have many managers who are
wallowing in their comfort zones.
Therein lies the difference why Ugandans will never rise against Mu7.
Thank you.
Kipenji.
==Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Ugandans, why are you notrising up now against dictator Musevenic? It's your turn, the Georgians did it
y


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Subject: ugnet_: Apt lesson for our tyrants 
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:14:18 + (GMT) 
 
Editorial 
 
Wednesday, November 26, 2003 
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Apt lesson for our tyrantsWhen he was President Mikhail Gorbachev's Foreign Minister - just before the Soviet Union broke up into tens of independent republics - Eduard Shevardnadze was among the world's most respected statesmen. 
But, apparently, power corrupts. During the 12 years that he has served as president of Georgia, he has come to epitomise political corruption and misrule. 
History will not condemn him as harshly as it has done his fellow Georgian, Josef Djugashvilli Stalin, under whose tyranny millions of dissidents were murdered. 
Mr Shevardnadze is accused merely of massive rigging of the presidential election machine so as to perpetuate himself in power over deepening corruption and a slumping economy. 
This would, nevertheless, have been a mortal sin if committed by the very man whose vow has always been complete de-Stalinisation and thorough political and economic liberalisation of the Georgian Republic. 
He precipitated the crisis, not only by the rigging but, more immediately, by denying it, refusing to order an investigation and - in a manner uncharacteristic of the self-effacing Shevardnadze the world used to know - thumping his chest with the declaration that he would never step down. 
It was only after it became apparent that many of his security forces were moving over to the opposition that he saw the need to quit. This was, indeed, the saving grace, a reminder of the old Shevadrnadze. 
Mr Shevardnadze admitted that, after this security split, any attempt to assume military power would have resulted in a bloodbath. Many a tyrant would have ignored this terrible possibility, dug in his heel, and landed his country in a holocaust. 
He nearly did it. And it is an excellent lesson to Africa's many tyrants who choose to continue with the bootblack long after their power base has been destroyed beyond repair. 
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Re: ugnet_: Apt lesson for our tyrants (like Musevenic!)

2003-11-26 Thread Mulindwa Edward



That is the smartest response we will get in 2003, 
for even a simple thing like Federalism is not national, Reform agenda pops up 
not for Uganda is in trouble but for Besigye is not elected, Mengo is not part 
of Uganda, Like I said Museveni's 5 grand children are going also to lead this 
nation, one by one.

Em

 The 
Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy" 
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"

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  From: 
  Owor 
  Kipenji 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 7:14 
  AM
  Subject: Re: ugnet_: Apt lesson for our 
  tyrants (like Musevenic!)
  
  Can you provide the leadership?.In Georgia,they had a leader who
  rallied them to rise.In Uganda we still have many managers who are
  wallowing in their comfort zones.
  Therein lies the difference why Ugandans will never rise against 
  Mu7.
  Thank you.
  Kipenji.
  ==Y 
  Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  


Ugandans, why are you notrising up now against dictator Musevenic? 
It's your turn, the Georgians did it
y


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Subject: ugnet_: Apt lesson for our tyrants 
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:14:18 + (GMT) 
 
Editorial 
 
Wednesday, November 26, 2003 
- 
Apt lesson for our tyrantsWhen he was President Mikhail 
Gorbachev's Foreign Minister - just before the Soviet Union broke up into 
tens of independent republics - Eduard Shevardnadze was among the world's 
most respected statesmen. 
But, apparently, power corrupts. During the 12 years that he 
has served as president of Georgia, he has come to epitomise political 
corruption and misrule. 
History will not condemn him as harshly as it has done his 
fellow Georgian, Josef Djugashvilli Stalin, under whose tyranny millions of 
dissidents were murdered. 
Mr Shevardnadze is accused merely of massive rigging of the 
presidential election machine so as to perpetuate himself in power over 
deepening corruption and a slumping economy. 
This would, nevertheless, have been a mortal sin if committed 
by the very man whose vow has always been complete de-Stalinisation and 
thorough political and economic liberalisation of the Georgian Republic. 
He precipitated the crisis, not only by the rigging but, more 
immediately, by denying it, refusing to order an investigation and - in a 
manner uncharacteristic of the self-effacing Shevardnadze the world used to 
know - thumping his chest with the declaration that he would never step 
down. 
It was only after it became apparent that many of his 
security forces were moving over to the opposition that he saw the need to 
quit. This was, indeed, the saving grace, a reminder of the old 
Shevadrnadze. 
Mr Shevardnadze admitted that, after this security split, any 
attempt to assume military power would have resulted in a bloodbath. Many a 
tyrant would have ignored this terrible possibility, dug in his heel, and 
landed his country in a holocaust. 
He nearly did it. And it is an excellent lesson to Africa's 
many tyrants who choose to continue with the bootblack long after their 
power base has been destroyed beyond repair. 
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Re: ugnet_: Apt lesson for our tyrants (like Musevenic!)

2003-11-26 Thread NOC´LADUMAS GEORGES






No Owor, that is short cut! 

It is deeper than that. It is among others because we are UGANDAN at very low level of political evolution(a situation we share with the rest of the so called Thirdworld). Our people do not even know their own rights to defendneither do they know how to vote. We are many hundred years behind. Imagine we have not even reached the level pertaining to fundamental ideological bases despite the NRM's "efforts" to establish class faculties. What would have become Ugandan business  industrial class have precipitated into a plutocratic slag. 

Secondly, his own personality played a roll to ease for the take over. Recall that he was the architect behind whatlater evolved to become Gorbachov's Perestroika. 

So, it comes down to what I usually say "our leaders still come from among us". We must make a better "US" to eventually have better leaders. Mr Shevardnadze was able to overcome his libido and swallow his pride we the truth came dazzling on his face.

Power always corrupt and power always confer certain privileges. In Africa power corrupts COMPLETELY.

rgds

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Can you provide the leadership?.In Georgia,they had a leader who 



rallied them to rise.In Uganda we still have many managers who are 



wallowing in their comfort zones. 



Therein lies the difference why Ugandans will never rise against Mu7. 



Thank you. 



Kipenji. 



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Ugandans, why are you not rising up now against dictator Musevenic? It's your turn, the Georgians did it 



 



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 Editorial 



  



 Wednesday, November 26, 2003 



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 Apt lesson for our tyrantsWhen he was President Mikhail Gorbachev's Foreign Minister - just before the Soviet Union broke up into tens of independent republics - Eduard Shevardnadze was among the world's most respected statesmen. 



 But, apparently, power corrupts. During the 12 years that he has served as president of Georgia, he has come to epitomise political corruption and misrule. 



 History will not condemn him as harshly as it has done his fellow Georgian, Josef Djugashvilli Stalin, under whose tyranny millions of dissidents were murdered. 



 Mr Shevardnadze is accused merely of massive rigging of the presidential election machine so as to perpetuate himself in power over deepening corruption and a slumping economy. 



 This would, nevertheless, have been a mortal sin if committed by the very man whose vow has always been complete de-Stalinisation and thorough political and economic liberalisation of the Georgian Republic. 



 He precipitated the crisis, not only by the rigging but, more immediately, by denying it, refusing to order an investigation and - in a manner uncharacteristic of the self-effacing Shevardnadze the world used to know - thumping his chest with the declaration that he would never step down. 



 It was only after it became apparent that many of his security forces were moving over to the opposition that he saw the need to quit. This was, indeed, the saving grace, a reminder of the old Shevadrnadze. 



 Mr Shevardnadze admitted that, after this security split, any attempt to assume military power would have resulted in a bloodbath. Many a tyrant would have ignored this terrible possibility, dug in his heel, and landed his country in a holocaust. 



 He nearly did it. And it is an excellent lesson to Africa's many tyrants who choose to continue with the bootblack long after their power base has been destroyed beyond repair. 



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Re: ugnet_: Apt lesson for our tyrants (like Musevenic!)

2003-11-25 Thread Y Yaobang

Ugandans, why are you notrising up now against dictator Musevenic? It's your turn, the Georgians did it
y


From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: ugnet_: Apt lesson for our tyrants 
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:14:18 + (GMT) 
 
Editorial 
 
Wednesday, November 26, 2003 
- 
Apt lesson for our tyrantsWhen he was President Mikhail Gorbachev's Foreign Minister - just before the Soviet Union broke up into tens of independent republics - Eduard Shevardnadze was among the world's most respected statesmen. 
But, apparently, power corrupts. During the 12 years that he has served as president of Georgia, he has come to epitomise political corruption and misrule. 
History will not condemn him as harshly as it has done his fellow Georgian, Josef Djugashvilli Stalin, under whose tyranny millions of dissidents were murdered. 
Mr Shevardnadze is accused merely of massive rigging of the presidential election machine so as to perpetuate himself in power over deepening corruption and a slumping economy. 
This would, nevertheless, have been a mortal sin if committed by the very man whose vow has always been complete de-Stalinisation and thorough political and economic liberalisation of the Georgian Republic. 
He precipitated the crisis, not only by the rigging but, more immediately, by denying it, refusing to order an investigation and - in a manner uncharacteristic of the self-effacing Shevardnadze the world used to know - thumping his chest with the declaration that he would never step down. 
It was only after it became apparent that many of his security forces were moving over to the opposition that he saw the need to quit. This was, indeed, the saving grace, a reminder of the old Shevadrnadze. 
Mr Shevardnadze admitted that, after this security split, any attempt to assume military power would have resulted in a bloodbath. Many a tyrant would have ignored this terrible possibility, dug in his heel, and landed his country in a holocaust. 
He nearly did it. And it is an excellent lesson to Africa's many tyrants who choose to continue with the bootblack long after their power base has been destroyed beyond repair. 
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